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Mike P

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Sep 9, 2000, 6:36:54 PM9/9/00
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Hi,
I'm making my own pipe bag, but I don't know any means of making it
airtight. Can someone give me the name of a product that would do this,
where I could buy it, and how much it would cost?

Thanks,
Mike

p.s. This pipe bag is for Uilleann pipes, if that makes any difference


me...@skyway.usask.ca

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Sep 9, 2000, 3:17:17 PM9/9/00
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Wilbert Garvin (has a book with UP plans) actually suggests Airtight ...
I make my UP bags out of vinyl (fabric back, not the fluffy backing!)
- no seasoning required - but usually I have to re-glue some parts of
the seam before it is tight.
chris

Mike P

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Sep 9, 2000, 10:05:19 PM9/9/00
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> Wilbert Garvin (has a book with UP plans) actually suggests Airtight ...
> I make my UP bags out of vinyl (fabric back, not the fluffy backing!)
>- no seasoning required - but usually I have to re-glue some parts of
>the seam before it is tight.
>chris

Thanks.
I was just wondering because I came by a large piece of leather and I have
to re-make my bag anyway. Do you know if you can use untreated leather for
a bag, or will too much air be lost?

Mike


me...@skyway.usask.ca

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Sep 9, 2000, 4:43:31 PM9/9/00
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In a previous article, "Mike P" <a@c.c> wrote:
I don't know. I have never tried leather - but you might want to
check David Daye's bagpipe WWW pages - he has some comment on every
aspect ! A search on daye + uilleann will find it , or just uilleann.
chris

Richard Evans

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Sep 10, 2000, 6:42:52 PM9/10/00
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In article <9SEP00....@skyway.usask.ca>, me...@skyway.usask.ca
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Use a mixture of 75gm of beeswax to 500ml neatsfoot oil, or 3oz. to 1
pint US or 4oz. to 1 pint UK.

Melt the wax in the oil pour it in, work it around and pour off the
excess fairly quickly.

Highland pipe bag dressings are no good for this.

Beware- your leather may be porous, in which case you will have
problems. We get our leather from a local tannery, and it is 2mm thick
for bag and bellows, but for the bellows we use a fairly stiff variety;
the bag leather is much more flexible. We are lucky: these people supply
quite a number of makers and know exactly what we want.

best wishes
Richard
--
Richard and Anita Evans
Makers of Northumbrian and Scottish Smallpipes
Fairhaven, Lingfoot, Southwaite, Carlisle, Cumbria, CA4 0EP
Tel:016974 73799 Fax:0870 0526933
http://www.evansweb.co.uk/

Mike P

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Sep 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/18/00
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Thanks, but I have a few questions:

>Use a mixture of 75gm of beeswax to 500ml neatsfoot oil, or 3oz. to 1
>pint US or 4oz. to 1 pint UK.

What kind of store can I get neatsfoot oil at?

>Beware- your leather may be porous, in which case you will have
>problems.

What kind of problems would I have? I am pretty sure the leather is porous,
is there any way to fix that? or do I need to get a new piece of leather?
and one final question: is there anywhere that I can buy bagpipe leather, in
North America?

Thanks a lot
Mike

Richard Mao

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Sep 19, 2000, 1:11:36 AM9/19/00
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Hmmm...

You need to get a split with the skin side on one side... if both sides are
fuzzy... you'll not be water or airtight.... if you get a good tanned piece of
leather it will not be so porous and will be airtight... the supple leather used
in a lot of bags has been "chrome" tanned ( a style of tanning often used on
deerskin that makes the pores tighter and the leather more supple)

You'll go a loooong way towards getting the bag airtight if you have a sewing
machine that stitches through the four layers of the seam and binding ....
reeeaaally tight...many bags from the makers... say, L&M bags, are usually
airtight right off the gitgo... and need seasoning only to make sure the leather
is supple, and to form a moisture control/absorbing base in the bag.

In the U.S. go to any buckskinner, civil war, revolutionary war rendezvous event
and there will be leather dealers. Stores... I haven't seen a Tandy Leather
store in a long time... but try there.

Good Luck

Natural talent can help you become very good, but the difference between being
very good and being great is hard work.

Richard Mao, The Peking Piper ( Pekin...@mao.org )


Mike P wrote:

> Thanks, but I have a few questions:
>

> >Use a mixture of 75gm of beeswax to 500ml neatsfoot oil, or 3oz. to 1
> >pint US or 4oz. to 1 pint UK.
>

> What kind of store can I get neatsfoot oil at?
>

> >Beware- your leather may be porous, in which case you will have
> >problems.
>

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