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Kevin Scott

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Apr 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/1/97
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Bill Carr wrote:
>
> I have just ordered a set of these from Phil Burk at Celticas Call
> (great service!).
>
> Now then. I would like all you Gibson Fireside Pipers to tell me about
> yours and how great (or not so) they are.
>
> I have a set of Mouth Blown SSPs in D that I find difficult to play
> because of my very short, thick (not fat) fingers. The idea of the long
> practice chanter on the Fireside Pipes is what sold me on the idea.
>
> Can't wait to get them.
>
> BTW Anyone want to buy a nice set of Blackwood, mouthblown SSPs in D?
> Way under what I payed for them a few weeks ago.
>
>
> Thanks all
>
> Bill Carr
How much for the pipes? How many drones and what pitch? I'm sorry I
missed who made them?
Kevin

Glen...@aol.com

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Both my husband and I have a set of the Fireside Pipes and love them. We had
both tried, unsuccessfully, to master the SSPs, but after attending a
two-band night in Detroit and saw members of Metro Toronto Police playing
Firesides, we were hooked. He got his set first and, after considering
Shuttle pipes, I got a set for myself. The only complaint we both have,
although not so much with me, is that we tend to drool at first.

Other than that, we are both pleased and use them as sort of a transition
from PC to the big pipes.

Dorothy Wilson
Glendaloch Pipe Band
Kentwood, Mi USA

Gay Piper

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What did you pay for them? I may be looking for a set this year.

Ron Jimison

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Bill Carr wrote:
>
> I have just ordered a set of these from Phil Burk at Celticas Call
> (great service!).
>
> Now then. I would like all you Gibson Fireside Pipers to tell me about
> yours and how great (or not so) they are.
>
> I have a set of Mouth Blown SSPs in D that I find difficult to play
> because of my very short, thick (not fat) fingers. The idea of the long
> practice chanter on the Fireside Pipes is what sold me on the idea.
>
> Can't wait to get them.
>
> BTW Anyone want to buy a nice set of Blackwood, mouthblown SSPs in D?
> Way under what I payed for them a few weeks ago.
>
>
> Thanks all
>
> Bill Carr
Bill,
good luck!!!!
One member of my band has the Gibson Fireside pipes, and they are
great. I ordered a set last AUGUST!!! and Jerry Gibson said that they
would be ready in about four months. My fault for not asking if he
meant four consecutive months. As of 1 April (no joke here) I still do
not have the pipes. I am confident that when (or if) I get them they
will be fine, but I have no idea when that might be.
Ron Jimison

Kevin Scott

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Apr 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/1/97
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Okay, Sports fans I just heard a demo of a new electronic practice
chanter. It is about 9 inches long and 5/8ths of an inch in diameter.
Made of clear plastic it is light and easily stored in your pocket. You
can use the same headphones as your walkman or just play it without. The
finger holes are the same as the GHP and it uses three ni-cad batteries.
It has a nice tone and is not too loud. The only person that I know that
is bringing them in from Scotland is Mr. Lynn Miller, the owner of The
House of Bagpipes. If you would like more information call him at 415
452-4220, pacific time. It may not be for everybody but I'm concidering
it as I write.
Thanks, Kevin

Bill Carr

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Apr 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/1/97
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Kevin Scott

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Apr 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/1/97
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Gay Piper wrote:
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> What did you pay for them? I may be looking for a set this year.


I don't know what they sell for now but why not go to the source? Gibson
Bagpipes Inc. 34234 Beach Park,OH 44095 Tel: 216 946-7864 In Canada
contact PM Jake Watson 519 885 0574. And while you are at it check out
the shuttlepipes. John Walsh P.O.Box 1423 Antigonish, NS Canada Tel:902
863-0815.
Kevin

RPatchell

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Apr 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/2/97
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What exactly are Gibson Fireside pipes? I did not see a description in
the earlier posts. Do they have cylindrical or conical chanters? Are
they mouth or bellows blown? How are they tuned, and how many drones do
they have.

Roy Patchell
RPat...@aol.com

RadioS2406

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Apr 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/2/97
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My two cents worth:

I looked at both the Gibson Fireside Pipes and the Walsh Shuttle Pipes,
and decided on the shuttle pipes, which I have had for about 5 months now.
I have not regretted it for a moment.

Both sets are great for indoor playing, but what gave the edge to the
shuttle pipes, for me, was the fact that they are tuned so that "A" is
really "A" - not B flat. This makes the shuttle pipes far more useful
when it comes to playing with other instruments. As a theater manager,
part of my job is to book and host concerts, and without exception, every
musician I've played them for has fallen in love with the sound of the
shuttle pipes, and some have gone as far as dragging me up on stage with
them during the concert for a guest appearance. (How often does THAT
happen with GHP's? :-) ) The ability to play quietly, in "A", has
opened up a whole new world for me. Also, the ability to aim the sound
of the drones is helpful when trying to play into a microphone... one mic
can capture both the chanter and the drones with a good balance between
the two, if you rotate the drone cylinder down a little from its normal
position.

My advice: look at both the Fireside Pipes and the Shuttle Pipes before
making a decision.

Scott McClellan
Battle Creek, Michigan


"Doc"

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Apr 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/2/97
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Kevin;

Great description! You included everything but the Price. :)
How Much?

"Doc"

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I have followed this vein with interest as I have been trying to decide on John Walsh's shuttle pipes and Gibson's fireside pipes. I have heard the shuttle pipes (very nice) but have not had the
opprotunity to hear a set of fireside pipes in person. Does anyone in the Denver area have a set to which I can listen?
Also, what are the differences in reeds, chanters, etc?

Thanks,
R. Smith
Pipe...@aol.com

burk...@aol.com

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>I don't know what they sell for now but why not go to the source? Gibson
>Bagpipes Inc. 34234 Beach Park,OH 44095 Tel: 216 946-7864 In Canada
>contact PM Jake Watson 519 885 0574. And while you are at it check out
>the shuttlepipes. John Walsh P.O.Box 1423 Antigonish, NS Canada Tel:902
>863-0815.
>Kevin

Going to the source does not help at all. I receive the pipes before most individuals ordering from Jerry because I'm his dealer. I will be receiving his Fireside(tm) pipes each month for stock so
the wait won't be nearly as long.

Here's the better part. I CHARGE THE SAME PRICES HE DOES AND WE ACCEPT VISA, MASTERCARD, AMERICAN EXPRESS, AND DISCOVER FOR ONLY A 5% ADDITIONAL COST. At this time, Jerry Gibson doesn't accept
credit cards.


Phillip Burk
Celtica's Call:
Bagpipes of the Isles
2432 Firstview Drive
Loveland, CO 80538
Ph: (970) 593-0531 (Fax and Business)

burk...@aol.com

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Hello All,

I fully understand what Scott is saying here and agree with his point. However, how many pipers play with other musical groups or with a microphone? There are pipers playing Gibson Fireside Pipes
who have made recordings with microphones. If there's a will there's a way. I have played the Shuttle pipes also but felt that the drones covered up the chanter sound (from the players
perspective). The Fireside(tm) pipes have the drones over the shoulder like the GHB.s (something I was already used to) and the drone was not as harsh. This is my own personal opinion and I am not
knocking the Shuttle pipes in any way. Some of my friends play the Shuttle pipes and think they're great. Every piper needs to be happy with what they are playing and have their own opinions.
That's why there are so many types of pipes out there. I agree with Scotts advise.

Stuart Hall

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Apr 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/2/97
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In article <19970402183...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
burk...@aol.com wrote:

> At one time, Jerry Gibson was not accepted as a pipe maker because he's
in the United States. However, his Fireside(tm) pipes are becoming very
popular in the United Kingdom and the orders are
> flooding in. A member of a group of pipers that play small pipes
(Uilleann, SSP's, NU's, Border Pipes, Lowland Bellows Pipes, Etc.)
presented Jerry Gibson's Fireside(tm) Pipes to the group and all
> were amazed that a set of pipes could be removed from the case and
played immediately without fiddling with them for 1/2 hour.

Just to throw this in, SSP are actually a wonderful instrument in their
own right, and similar to what you're all talking about. The huge
differences being that they're bellows-blown, and that their reeds are cane.
I know Phillip sells the Gibson pipes, but really I've never had to fiddle
with my SSP for a half-hour to get them into playable condition . . .
They're in tune out of the box unless the temperature changes a bunch.

I only recommend that highland pipers looking into smaller, quieter pipes
consider the SSP.

Stuart

burk...@aol.com

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The Gibson Fireside Pipes are mouth blown and the pitch is the same as the GHB's. I wouldn't give up my Firesides for anything. The Chanter is the Gibson P/C and there are two drones (one tenor and
one bass). Both of the drones and chanter use the same reeds (Crawley P/C reeds). Every piper that has played them orders a set because they're too fun to put down. Playing is effortless and there
is no maintenance required. Each drone has a regulator (valve) at the base so you can regulate the air to the reeds or just shut the drones off and use the pipes as a goose. So there is actually 2
instruments in one (Pipes or Goose). Jerry Gibson used to sell the Fireside Pipes with a P/C top so the chanter could be removed and used as a practice chanter but he has found that many owners of
the Firesides order a seperate chanter anyway so they can leave there Firesides intact all the time. The chanter is now plastic on the standard order but a Blackwood chanter can take it's place for
an additional $50.00. The standard set of Fireside pipes have Madagascar Rosewood for the drones and can be ordered with mounts for an additional cost. Another set of firesides made of all
Blackwood drones with mounts and a Blackwood chanter is also available. The price is of course higher than the standard set but they are beautiful. The mounts add just a little more contrast to the
drones.

At one time, Jerry Gibson was not accepted as a pipe maker because he's in the United States. However, his Fireside(tm) pipes are becoming very popular in the United Kingdom and the orders are
flooding in. A member of a group of pipers that play small pipes (Uilleann, SSP's, NU's, Border Pipes, Lowland Bellows Pipes, Etc.) presented Jerry Gibson's Fireside(tm) Pipes to the group and all

were amazed that a set of pipes could be removed from the case and played immediately without fiddling with them for 1/2 hour. They were also comenting on the superior harmonics from the pipes. I
play his 1/2 sterling silver pipes and I'm just as happy with also.

burk...@aol.com

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Apr 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/2/97
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Sorry for my last posting. I forgot to add the CR's at the end of each line.

Kevin Scott

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I emailed Doc, a private note this morning when I received his
request. Since then I have had the opportunity to test this electronic
device myself. It is quite literally a 9 inch tube with electric
contacts on the outside that are spaced in the same intravals as the GHP
finger holes. It doesn't have an external speaker but uses a simple head
set which most people have already. I was told that a small speaker
which will fit on your portable radio will also work. By simply
fingering the E note the chanter is activated. It is very easy to use
and in no time I was playing away as if I were using my own mouth blown
practice chanter. It is very responsive. The bottom line to this is I
put in my order and am awaiting its delivery. I really liked it. Oh yes
the price, it is $245.00 delivered. As I said it's not for everyone.
Kevin

Kevin Scott

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Apr 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/2/97
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burk...@aol.com wrote:
>
> In article <3341D5...@pop3.concentric.net>, Kevin Scott <piob...@pop3.concentric.net> writes:
>
> >I don't know what they sell for now but why not go to the source? Gibson
> >Bagpipes Inc. 34234 Beach Park,OH 44095 Tel: 216 946-7864 In Canada
> >contact PM Jake Watson 519 885 0574. And while you are at it check out
> >the shuttlepipes. John Walsh P.O.Box 1423 Antigonish, NS Canada Tel:902
> >863-0815.
> >Kevin
>
> Going to the source does not help at all. I receive the pipes before most individuals ordering from Jerry because I'm his dealer. I will be receiving his Fireside(tm) pipes each month for stock so
> the wait won't be nearly as long.
>
> Here's the better part. I CHARGE THE SAME PRICES HE DOES AND WE ACCEPT VISA, MASTERCARD, AMERICAN EXPRESS, AND DISCOVER FOR ONLY A 5% ADDITIONAL COST. At this time, Jerry Gibson doesn't accept
> credit cards.
>
> Phillip Burk
> Celtica's Call:
> Bagpipes of the Isles
> 2432 Firstview Drive
> Loveland, CO 80538
> Ph: (970) 593-0531 (Fax and Business)
I read your notes and agree that going to the source sometimes doesn't
help at all. However when I talked with Mr Gibson last year we spent a
good part of an hour on the phone which included a demonstration over
the phone. He assured me that he could ship his pipes with in a few
days. I choose though to go with a typical Scottish small pipes. And
going to the manufactorer was a plus. I spent many hours on the phone
describing what I wanted done and where I wanted things placed. We spoke
at length about what size bag to use. He even shipped the silver
fittings to me so I could hand engrave them myself. In this instance it
certainly payed to go tho the source. I am still interested in the
Gibson style smallpipes. How much does the set cost with all the bells,
wooden chanter, mounts and all? Do you have one in stock and if I use a
credit card how soon can you ship?

Kevin MacHeffner

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burk...@aol.com wrote:

> The Gibson Fireside Pipes are mouth blown and the pitch is the same as the GHB's.
> I wouldn't give up my Firesides for anything. The Chanter is the Gibson P/C and
> there are two drones (one tenor and one bass). Both of the drones and chanter use
> the same reeds (Crawley P/C reeds). Every piper that has played them orders a set
> because they're too fun to put down.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

He couldn't have said it any better! Phil brought these to a band
practice in February, and let me borrow them afterward. I sat down with
them at 12:30 in the afternoon, and the next time I looked at the clock
while playing, it was 2:45!!!!! As soon as some money comes my way, I'll
be buying a set!

Kevin MacHeffner
Mesa Caledonian

Kevin Scott

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Apr 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/2/97
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Doug White wrote:
>
> Keywords:

> In article <3341D8...@pop3.concentric.net>, piob...@pop3.concentric.net wrote:
> >Okay, Sports fans I just heard a demo of a new electronic practice
> >chanter. It is about 9 inches long and 5/8ths of an inch in diameter.
> >Made of clear plastic it is light and easily stored in your pocket. You
> >can use the same headphones as your walkman or just play it without. The
> >finger holes are the same as the GHP and it uses three ni-cad batteries.
> >It has a nice tone and is not too loud. The only person that I know that
> >is bringing them in from Scotland is Mr. Lynn Miller, the owner of The
> >House of Bagpipes. If you would like more information call him at 415
> >452-4220, pacific time. It may not be for everybody but I'm concidering
> >it as I write.
>
> This sounds suspiciously like Anders Fagerstrom's electronic PC. It's
> actually made in Sweden, and the only difference I can see in your
> description is that Anders's design uses three button cells, which I
> don't think are Ni-Cad. For anyone interested, he has a web page:
>
> http://herb.algonet.se/~afager/
>
> with nice pictures. I got mine a litle over a week ago, and have been
> very pleased with it. It's well made, and just the ticket for a
> portable, discreet practice device. It is VERY sensitive to crossing
> noises, which is very useful.
>
> Doug White
Thanks for the news. I'll check it out and see if it is the same device
or a copy. I test drove the gizmo that I described yesterday and ordered
one. I'll post the results so all will know.
Kevin

Kevin Scott

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Apr 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/2/97
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Diane wrote:
>
> On Tue, 01 Apr 1997 19:53:02 -0800, Kevin Scott

> <piob...@pop3.concentric.net> wrote:
>
> >Okay, Sports fans I just heard a demo of a new electronic practice
> >chanter. It is about 9 inches long and 5/8ths of an inch in diameter.
> >Made of clear plastic it is light and easily stored in your pocket. You
> >can use the same headphones as your walkman or just play it without. The
> >finger holes are the same as the GHP and it uses three ni-cad batteries.
> >It has a nice tone and is not too loud. The only person that I know that
> >is bringing them in from Scotland is Mr. Lynn Miller, the owner of The
> >House of Bagpipes. If you would like more information call him at 415
> >452-4220, pacific time. It may not be for everybody but I'm concidering
> >it as I write.
> >Thanks
> There is a dealer on the east coast too, if interested please email me
> and i will give you the info.
> Thanks,
> Diane
Apparently this is the electronic chanter that can be seen at
http://herb.algonet.se/~afager/ I'm not sure if they are being
manufactored in Scotland by this gentleman who appears to be Swedish or
that the one I played is a knockoff. Anyway there are now three sources
out that you can follow up on if you are so inclined. I personally
bought mine through a dealer here that I do business with so that I have
recourse should the need arise.
Kevin

Doug White

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Apr 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/3/97
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Keywords:
In article <3341D8...@pop3.concentric.net>, piob...@pop3.concentric.net wrote:
>Okay, Sports fans I just heard a demo of a new electronic practice
>chanter. It is about 9 inches long and 5/8ths of an inch in diameter.
>Made of clear plastic it is light and easily stored in your pocket. You
>can use the same headphones as your walkman or just play it without. The
>finger holes are the same as the GHP and it uses three ni-cad batteries.
>It has a nice tone and is not too loud. The only person that I know that
>is bringing them in from Scotland is Mr. Lynn Miller, the owner of The
>House of Bagpipes. If you would like more information call him at 415
>452-4220, pacific time. It may not be for everybody but I'm concidering
>it as I write.

This sounds suspiciously like Anders Fagerstrom's electronic PC. It's

Diane

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On Tue, 01 Apr 1997 19:53:02 -0800, Kevin Scott
<piob...@pop3.concentric.net> wrote:

>Okay, Sports fans I just heard a demo of a new electronic practice
>chanter. It is about 9 inches long and 5/8ths of an inch in diameter.
>Made of clear plastic it is light and easily stored in your pocket. You
>can use the same headphones as your walkman or just play it without. The
>finger holes are the same as the GHP and it uses three ni-cad batteries.
>It has a nice tone and is not too loud. The only person that I know that
>is bringing them in from Scotland is Mr. Lynn Miller, the owner of The
>House of Bagpipes. If you would like more information call him at 415
>452-4220, pacific time. It may not be for everybody but I'm concidering
>it as I write.

Todd

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Apr 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/3/97
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Roy,
I'll give you the skinny that nobodies bothered to post yet.

The Fireside pipes are like a (fairly) tuned practice chanter fitted to
a bag with little practice-chanter-reeded drones. They're kinda cool;
but, not really a *whole new incarnation* - just a practice chanter
really

Cheers
Todd

Bill Carr

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Apr 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/3/97
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"Doc" wrote:

>
> Kevin Scott wrote:
> >
> > Okay, Sports fans I just heard a demo of a new electronic practice
> > chanter. It is about 9 inches long and 5/8ths of an inch in diameter.
> > Made of clear plastic it is light and easily stored in your pocket. You
> > can use the same headphones as your walkman or just play it without. The
> > finger holes are the same as the GHP and it uses three ni-cad batteries.
> > It has a nice tone and is not too loud. The only person that I know that
> > is bringing them in from Scotland is Mr. Lynn Miller, the owner of The
> > House of Bagpipes. If you would like more information call him at 415
> > 452-4220, pacific time. It may not be for everybody but I'm concidering
> > it as I write.
> > Thanks, Kevin
>
> Kevin;
>
> Great description! You included everything but the Price. :)
> How Much?
>
> "Doc"

Go here to see and hear the Electronic PC. I bought one and I love it. I
can sit and practice in the same room as the rest of my tribe without
them getting p...d off at me or sneaking off to another room.


http://www.algonet.se/~afager

Bill Carr


Kevin Scott

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Apr 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/3/97
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I owned a set of minature pipes at one time and they are just a small
sized GHP. The Gibson pipes are a slight improvement over this style
pipe. Imagine a sawed off GhP out of control and there you have the
Great Highland minature pipes. I collect and play different types of
pipes and find that the Scottish small pipe pitched in A is a great
instrument but not to be compared to the GHP even if it is fingered the
same. There the resemblance ends. The shuttle pipes are great for
practice for those who want a quiet drone sound behind the chanter. The
drones can be tuned to other than GHP standard and can even be slip
tuned up and down as if it were an uillean set. They resemble a French
Musette. I'm interested in the Gibson small pipes because they employ
some different inovations that haven't been seen in pipe making in quit
a while. I plan on some time in the future turning a common stock for
the drones and tying them in to sit across my lap in uillean style to
get the best of both worlds.
Kevin

Golfp...@aol.com

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Apr 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/3/97
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The obvious benefit of these devices is to allow one to practice without
disturbing others. A pitfall is that brief crossing noises might not be
transmitted electronically giving a false impression of clarity of play.
This has been a problem with some of the previously available pc's although
I am not familiar with this most recent version. Just something to keep in
mind.

CP

Kevin Scott

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Apr 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/3/97
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This is correct. The electric Pc is an aid not a magic wand. Nothing
takes the place of picking up the pipes and playing.

Mike Talcott

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Say it again, brother. A new band member brought his Firesides (TM) to
practice, and after having blown myself out on Pipes and PC, I picked up
his Firesides (TM) and felt I could have played all afternoon. Our
*oldest* member is relieved that when he gets too auncient to get a
decent sound out of the GHBs, he'll have an alternative. (It was really
bothering him, too.)

I'm sold, but I want my Uilleans first.

MT

Bill Carr

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Apr 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/4/97
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Of course not! Was anyone suggesting the Electreonic PC was a substitute
for playing the pipes? I think not.

As for picking up crossing noises. The one I have from Sweden is very
unforgiving and picks up crossing noises much better than the
traditional PC.



Bill Carr

STEELHEALR

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Apr 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/4/97
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Hi All....my buddy brought his firesides to practice last week. WOW. Tons
of fun. Our pipe seargeant has played the shuttlepipes for many
years....and fell in love with the firesides after playing them. He has
ordered a set. I think most pipers would enjoy either. One major
difference is whether you prefer your drones over your shoulder or in your
lap. The shuttles drones are a little buzzier if you will. I have ordered
my firesides thru Phil Burk at Celtica's Call. I'm not pushing his
product, but I can tell you that he has been friendly and patient. Try
giving him an email. Good luck which ever way you go. Good piping. Frank

Kevin Scott

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Apr 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/4/97
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Have you listened to some of to latest music that is out? Often some
electronic genius patches together a synthosound and the audience says
"Wow bagpipes" This gizmo is capabile of producing that affect. And as
far as replacing the pipes, no way but, why do we spend so much time on
the PC?

burk...@aol.com

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Apr 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/5/97
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Gay Piper

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Apr 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/5/97
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That is really an oversimplification. You see, the major reason that
Fireside pipes, shuttle pipes, and other mouthblown smallpipes (in
b-flat, and in d), was that GHB players wanting to play the smaller
pipes had difficulties mastering the bellows, which is what these
instruments are descended from. The SSP, like the Ullean pipe is a
"cauld wind" pipe," meaning that the bellows under the opposite arm
took the place of the blowstick. I can attest to the fact that it is
difficult to master; I tried a friends SSP and nearly destroyed his
reeds in so doing. With a shuttle pipe, however, I picked them up and
just started playing. I didn't want to put them down, but their owner
made threats, so I relinquished them.

Marty Mooney

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Apr 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/5/97
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I have been lurking here for about a month now, and this discussion of
fireside pipes has got me curious. I am a beginner who has been playing
on the chanter since last November and I feel like I want to move up to
a set of pipes. (Am I jumping into that too soon?)
My questions: Would anyone recommend the fireside pipes for me as a
beginner? How much would a new set cost?


Thanks,

Marty Mooney


P.S. I just noticed a crack in the neck of my Hardie PC--am I up the
creek or can it be saved?

Diane

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Apr 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/5/97
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a band member bought this elec. bagpipe b/c with work he had
minimal time to practice so he takes this on the train with him and
gets to practice an hour each way. .so when he goes home he can
practice on the pipes , the tune he got down while riding on the
train. ( works well on airplanes to :)>
this cant replace the pipes it is a small "wand" with ear phones
about the size of a tin or penny whistle. so it cant in anyway
"replace" the pipes!


burk...@aol.com

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Apr 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/5/97
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Henry Whyte

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Apr 6, 1997, 4:00:00 AM4/6/97
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In message <Pine.LNX.3.93.970405...@wolfe.thehill.org>,
Marty Mooney <mmo...@thehill.org> writes

>I have been lurking here for about a month now, and this discussion of
>fireside pipes has got me curious. I am a beginner who has been playing
>on the chanter since last November and I feel like I want to move up to
>a set of pipes. (Am I jumping into that too soon?)
>My questions: Would anyone recommend the fireside pipes for me as a
>beginner? How much would a new set cost?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Marty Mooney
>
>
>P.S. I just noticed a crack in the neck of my Hardie PC--am I up the
>creek or can it be saved?
A bit of wood glue will take care of it: worse things have been sorted
out the same way. Good luck!
--
Henry Whyte, Lochee hwh...@translation-plus.co.uk

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Apr 6, 1997, 4:00:00 AM4/6/97
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I've tried twice to send pricing over the newsgroup but all I see is a blank
message. If anyone needs pricing on the Fireside pipes, please E-mail me
directly. Does anyone know if I'm not allowed to post prices over a NG?

Phillip Burk

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Apr 6, 1997, 4:00:00 AM4/6/97
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Scott,

Tried to send you pricing on the Fireside pipes but your mail was returned.
Send me another message in case the address was corrupted.

Thanks,
Phil Burk

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Apr 6, 1997, 4:00:00 AM4/6/97
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When sending me an E-mail for pricing on the Fireside pipes, please
type in your E-mail address because I have received some inquiries
but the mail is returned 'address unknown'. I apologise if you didn't
receive a response from me because of this.

If you didn't get a response, send your E-mail again.

Thanks,

Kevin Scott

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Apr 6, 1997, 4:00:00 AM4/6/97
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I think that the Gibson pipes as well as other practice substitutes is
some thing that should come later. Master the GHP as well as possible.
You may come to resent the fact that you've spent money on the
smallpipes when it could have gone for the Great Pipes. Later get the
smaller pipes and enjoy them. My opinion.
Kevin

Jim Chester

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Apr 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/7/97
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Ron Jimison wrote:
>
> Bill Carr wrote:
> >
> > I have just ordered a set of these from Phil Burk at Celticas Call
> > (great service!).
> >
> > Now then. I would like all you Gibson Fireside Pipers to tell me about
> > yours and how great (or not so) they are.
> >
> > I have a set of Mouth Blown SSPs in D that I find difficult to play
> > because of my very short, thick (not fat) fingers. The idea of the long
> > practice chanter on the Fireside Pipes is what sold me on the idea.
> >
> > Can't wait to get them.
> >
> > BTW Anyone want to buy a nice set of Blackwood, mouthblown SSPs in D?
> > Way under what I payed for them a few weeks ago.
> >
> >
> > Thanks all
> >
> > Bill Carr
> Bill,
> good luck!!!!
> One member of my band has the Gibson Fireside pipes, and they are
> great. I ordered a set last AUGUST!!! and Jerry Gibson said that they
> would be ready in about four months. My fault for not asking if he
> meant four consecutive months. As of 1 April (no joke here) I still do
> not have the pipes. I am confident that when (or if) I get them they
> will be fine, but I have no idea when that might be.
> Ron Jimison
Don't worry They're well worth the wait!!

Dan Dunbar

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Apr 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/11/97
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For any Canadians interested in Anders Fagerstroms electronic chanter,
the sole agent/distributor for Canada is "TREASURE ISLES TRADING
COMPANY" in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Price is $295.00 Can. The unit can be
used with any "Walkman" type headphones or the "in-the-ear" bud type ear
phones. Dave Haggan, owner of Treasure Isles also hooked them up to a
small set of speakers similar to the ones that come with the Sound
Blasters. These chanters VERY definitely show up crossing noises to the
point of embarrassment. It is one of it's features. The pitch is also
adjustable from just under 440 up to ? by the touch of a button to match
other chanters or the pipes themselves. Just playing the thing for a few
minutes, I started noticing an improvement in technique. The only fault
I could discern was not having some kind of extension up to the mouth
perhaps to keep the feel of a traditional chanter. I don't see why a
piece couldn't be temporarily added on. I can just picture people
sitting on planes buses etc. toodling away silently on this little
"stick"! You can e-mail Dave at Treasure Isles at:

celt...@ilos.net

Cheers,

-Dan


Kevin Scott wrote:
>
> I emailed Doc, a private note this morning when I received his
> request. Since then I have had the opportunity to test this electronic
> device myself. It is quite literally a 9 inch tube with electric
> contacts on the outside that are spaced in the same intravals as the GHP
> finger holes. It doesn't have an external speaker but uses a simple head
> set which most people have already. I was told that a small speaker
> which will fit on your portable radio will also work. By simply
> fingering the E note the chanter is activated. It is very easy to use
> and in no time I was playing away as if I were using my own mouth blown
> practice chanter. It is very responsive. The bottom line to this is I
> put in my order and am awaiting its delivery. I really liked it. Oh yes
> the price, it is $245.00 delivered. As I said it's not for everyone.
> Kevin

Kevin Scott

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Apr 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/11/97
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I received my electric chanter several days ago and it is as I said a
good tool for the more experiancd piper. The reason I write this is
after fiddling around with it I discovered that if you inadvertantly
misfinger a note it will not play an off note like a real practice
chanter will. It is possible to play an E with one hand or a high A with
the right hand. If fingering is not an issue but just learning tunes is
what you are doing it is great. As for a blow pipe a straw does well as
a substitute preferably with a cold one at the other end.
Kevin

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