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-V-

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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So far I have spoken with/heard of these fellows that make the
uilleann pipes,

Bruce C. Childress
Adrian Jefferies
Nick Whitmer
Neil O Grady

I was wondering if anyone had any first hand knowledge of these fellows
work and would be willing to share their opinions on it. Also, if anyone
knows of someone else I should contact, please let me know. This would also
be a first starter set, just letting you know incase it influences your
opinion.

Thanks,
-V-

Mike

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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I have seen bruces sets of pipes and they are very nice sounding, But a
long waiting list, Neil O'Grady Makes Very nice Maple sets, they look
and sound good, His waiting list isnt that long, He is also a nice
person to talk with,
Mike

cek...@panix.com

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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Alexander Platt wrote:
>
> Another to add to your list should be Seth Gallagher. He can be reached
> through his web site www.uilleann.com. A terrific guy making wonderful
> pipes.
>
> --
> Alex Platt

He (Seth Gallagher) came into my shop, and the pipes he brought, which
he made, were first class. He said that Jerry O'Sullivan is playing his
pipe chanter, and I believe him.
-Charley Kron


Alexander Platt

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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ArrahCee

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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Definitely contact Kirk Lynch. I played a half set of his for years
until tendonotis did me in, and his pipes are being played
by no less than Jerry O'Sullivan-- who can play whatever
he wants.

Excellent workmanship, and his chanters are IN TUNE,
which is more than I can say for a couple other makers' chanters
I've played (and owned for a short time).
Rick Cunningham
arra...@aol.com

Charles R. Fowler

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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In article <01bd583d$201a8460$1420...@phares.rtp.dg.com>,
"-V-" <vi...@juno.com> wrote:

>So far I have spoken with/heard of these fellows that make the
>uilleann pipes,
>
>Bruce C. Childress
>Adrian Jefferies
>Nick Whitmer
>Neil O Grady
>
>I was wondering if anyone had any first hand knowledge of these fellows
>work and would be willing to share their opinions on it. Also, if anyone
>knows of someone else I should contact, please let me know. This would also
>be a first starter set, just letting you know incase it influences your
>opinion.
>
>Thanks,
>-V-

My 4 Keyed Chanter is made by Bruce Childress and I am very happy with the
craftmanship and tembre of the chanter. Bruce is also a good individual
that is very easy to talk with also when you have concern about reeds or the
pipes.

Slainte,

Chas. Fowler

ArrahCee

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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>He (Seth Gallagher) came into my shop, and the pipes he brought, which
>he made, were first class. He said that Jerry O'Sullivan is playing his
>pipe chanter, and I believe him.
>-Charley Kron

Charley,

The last time I spoke with Jerry was about a year and a
half ago, and he may have changed since then-- I don't want
to be guilty of spreading misinformation!

I do know that Kirk sent Jerry a prototype chanter (Kirk
doesn't usually make them with stop keys unless a player
specifies it), and he had a REAL hard time getting it back
from him to finalize it.

Kieran O'Hare also plays Lynch pipes-- he and Kirk are
both teaching at Augusta this year.

Too bad uillean pipers in the US are so spread out-- I guess
the ideal thing would be to go around to players who own
different makers' pipes and listen to and play several of them
before you place that order, plunk down your money
and wait...

One caveat-- good looking pipes don't necessarily mean
pipes that play well. I had a bad experience with an uillean
chanter by a US maker who shall go unnammed-- he ended
up buying it back from me when I complained bitterly about
the E's being woefully sharp (his answer? Half hole all the
E's-- can you believe that?)-- also, I have a border pipe
chanter by another US maker that he said would work
great with smallpipes in A-- have had the chanter for two years,
have gone through ALL kinds of reed tribulations-- it ain't
happening-- not in A, at least. I'll make someone a good
deal on a cocobolo border chanter...



Rick Cunningham
arra...@aol.com

Terry Enderson

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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You could try contacting Alan Ginsberg. I have a practice set made by
him. I am a beginner and I found him very friendly and helpful.

He is listed on the Na Píobairí Uilleann site at:

http://shaw.iol.ie/~npupipes/npuhome.htm

Good luck
--
Terry Enderson

Kevin Scott

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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Rick,
I'm assuming you know this but I'll post the information for other
pipers not familiar with uilleann pipes. The E is notorious for acting
up. The mid E especially because this is where the octave breaks. The
low E is a pain sometimes because this is the first closed note on the
chanter. Most of the problems can be worked out by rereeding the
chanter by someone willing to work with it. Failing that a good maker
can go in with a spoon bit or reamer and correct the problem. Another
thing about the uilleann is that the fingering is much looser then the
Highland and it is a common thing that the basic fingering for some
notes will be slightly different from chanter to chanter. My chanter has
a sharp low octave A which I flatten out by lifting my middle finger of
my bottom hand. This solves the problem nicely and is also a salute to
the maker who won't fix the problem for me.
Kevin Scott

ArrahCee

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Mar 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/27/98
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> I'm assuming you know this but I'll post the information for other
>pipers not familiar with uilleann pipes. The E is notorious for acting
>up. The mid E especially because this is where the octave breaks. The
>low E is a pain sometimes because this is the first closed note on the
>chanter. Most of the problems can be worked out by rereeding the
>chanter by someone willing to wo

True, true. BUT-- some makers have figured out how to
solve this, some haven't. With that particular chanter I tried
taping the hole, but that made the upper E way flat.

Believe me, I have a great appreciation for the tough job
pipemakers have in trying to make a conical chanter and
a double reed play in tune over two octaves. Some makers
are better at it than others.



Rick Cunningham
arra...@aol.com

Kevin Scott

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Mar 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/28/98
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Rick,
Without a doubt, some makers are better than others. After fooling with
every chanter I can get my hands on I believe there is something more to
it and it is the actual chanter and the wood which can determine how far
in or out of tune it will be. No matter how talented the maker sometimes
the chanter just won't play well. And then there is the actual piper
that knows his chanter and will "lean" on some notes to tune them in. It
is a difficult instrument but very rewarding.
Kevin Scott

David Daye

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Apr 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/1/98
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ArrahCee wrote:

> Definitely contact Kirk Lynch.

> and his pipes are being played
> by no less than Jerry O'Sullivan-- who can play whatever
> he wants.
>
> Excellent workmanship, and his chanters are IN TUNE,
> which is more than I can say for a couple other makers' chanters

This whole area is in flux right now as historic data are
being harvested and analyzed. As of now we've lost all
the apprenticeship links to past makers so everyone is
working in some amount of darkness. Some things are unknown
to all and much that one knows some other does not.

There's more to it than being "IN TUNE" since as oboes
the chanters have important stability and dependability
factors. As yet there are no plastic pipes so there is
no such thing as "the" pipes, especially chanters, from
any of the major makers. A thousandth of an inch here or
there and two good chanters from the same maker won't play
the same reed.

Very easy to happen in reamed wood. This doesn't mean
that the maker is "bad" but it confounds predictability
and it complicates the musical life of the buyer.

Kirk sadly has just met the official definition of a Good
Uilleann Pipe Maker -- stating this past Saturday that he's
just about quit taking orders due to his backlog.

david

Lawrence L. Dunn

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Apr 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/1/98
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In article <351DCD...@pop3.concentric.net>,

Kevin Scott <piob...@pop3.concentric.net> wrote:
>Rick,
> Without a doubt, some makers are better than others. After fooling with
......

I just recently got a UP practice set that I'm very happy with from Seth Gallagher. Nicely in tune, worked well right out of the box. He has a web page: http://www.uilleann.com

Good Luck

Larry Dunn
aer...@ix.netcom.com

ArrahCee

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Apr 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/1/98
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>Kirk sadly has just met the official definition of a Good
>Uilleann Pipe Maker -- stating this past Saturday that he's
>just about quit taking orders due to his backlog.

Ah, I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later... Just 4
years ago he had my mainstock and drones ready in 5 months...

How was St. Louis? Though I no longer play uillean pipes,
I'd loved to have gone to have tunes with Dugger and the
like. Pesky job...



Rick Cunningham
arra...@aol.com

Super Saiyen MadVega

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Apr 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/2/98
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Lawrence L. Dunn wrote:
>
> In article <351DCD...@pop3.concentric.net>,
> Kevin Scott <piob...@pop3.concentric.net> wrote:
> >Rick,
> > Without a doubt, some makers are better than others. After fooling with
> ......
>
> I just recently got a UP practice set that I'm very happy with from Seth Gallagher. Nicely in tune, worked well right out of the box. He has a web page: http:
>
> Good Luck
>
> Larry Dunn
> aer...@ix.netcom.com

On the subject, has anyone here played a UP practice set made by Adrian
Jeffries? How long is his waiting list? And what's $880 Australian in
American dolloars? I still need a practice or half set of Uilleann
pipes. Time is more important than money. I need them by at least the
end of April, or a week into May.
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