The Lords Prayer?
Hilndr30
Lords Prayer? My limited Piping knowledge tells me "It ain't happenin",but I
thought I would throw it out to the you guys/gals. Is this possible?
Thank you,
Ed Merritt
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John Richardson
Can't be done...too many sharps and flats. Please ddon't bastardize
the tune by trying to make it play.
Bob Cameron
any particularly suited to the pipes.
br...@ais.com
hiln...@aol.com (Hilndr30) wrote:
> I just got a call for Wedding. Amazing Grace or Highland Cathedral ok, but The
> Lords Prayer? My limited Piping knowledge tells me "It ain't happenin",but I
> thought I would throw it out to the you guys/gals. Is this possible?
> Thank you,
I must have heard at least a half dozen tunes for the Lord's Prayer. As
far as I recall none of them sounded particularly "pipeable" although
there might be one. It would help if you knew the tune name rather than
the words.
Most hymns have both a tune name (the name of the melody) as well as
the hymn name (the name of the words or poem). A few hymns, such as
_Simple Gifts_, have the same or a very similar name for both the tune
name and the hymn name. Even _Amazing Grace_ is the name of the hymn,
not the name of the tune; the tune that is almost universally used is
_New Britain_. Nor can you assume that if the tune name that you know
resembles the hymn name that this will be the case in all churches.
This would be a rather pedantic point except that the same words are
often put to many different melodies, and the same tunes are often
used for many different hymns. If you're talking to someone in your
local church, you will all probably know which hymns go with which
melodies, but even other churches in your denomination (to say nothing
of other denominations or churches in other countries) may sing the
same words to entirely different tunes. You can't assume that someone
outside your local church will know which melody you're asking for if
you give the hymn name rather than the tune name, unless it's a hymn
that is almost never sung to alternative melodies such as _Amazing
Grace_ or _Simple Gifts_ or _Shall We Gather at the River_ (tune name:
Hansom Place). All of these are very pipeable melodies, by the way.
For example, in the church I go to, we sing the hymn _Love Divine All
Loves Excelling_ to the tune named _Hyfrydol_ rather than the more
commonly used tune _Love Divine_. The former tune works very well on
the pipes, but the latter does not.
Bruce C. Wright
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Bozinski
>outside your local church will know which melody you're asking for if
>you give the hymn name rather than the tune name, unless it's a hymn
>that is almost never sung to alternative melodies such as _Amazing
>Grace_ or _Simple Gifts_ or _Shall We Gather at the River_ (tune name:
>Hansom Place). All of these are very pipeable melodies, by the way.
Sorry to bother you again. Funny though, every time I find a post on this
board today that sparks my interest, it has your name at the bottom!
Quick question along these lines...do you know where I might locate music
for two hymns in particular: "The Old Rugged Cross" and "A Mighty Fortress is
Our God?" The version of "A Mighty..." that I would be looking for would be
the one set to the J.S. Bach tune. It caught my interest the other night and I
started fiddling around on my chanter trying to play it from memory. The first
measure or so throws me, but the last part seems playable.
Also, I once heard a pipe tune that started off similarly to Scott Joplin's,
"The Entertainer", which then inspired me to try to find the latter song for
the pipes. I know that piano music would be easy to find for it, but I thought
maybe someone has already done a pipe conversion.
By the way, what is your opinion of taking music of other formats and
adjusting them for the pipes? I'm talking about tasteful conversions that
really capture the spirit of the pipes and don't merely emulate the song as it
is played on other instruments. I've asked a few people recently and have
gotten very, very negative responses to the effect of "It just isn't done.
Pipes should play pipe tunes." Is it just me or does this attitude seem to
condemn the pipes to forever be "Scotland's instrument" rather than one which
can be played by someone of any culture, without bias?
Again, thanks for your time,
Brad Walker
Andy Graham
>By the way, what is your opinion of taking music of other formats and
>adjusting them for the pipes? I'm talking about tasteful conversions that
>really capture the spirit of the pipes and don't merely emulate the song as
it
>is played on other instruments. I've asked a few people recently and have
>gotten very, very negative responses to the effect of "It just isn't done.
>Pipes should play pipe tunes." Is it just me or does this attitude seem to
>condemn the pipes to forever be "Scotland's instrument" rather than one
which
>can be played by someone of any culture, without bia
if you like the sound then it is good and 'acceptable', we are trying to
produce music,
Music is a sound that is pleasing to the ear....
what exactly *is* traditional bagpipe or pipe band music? Scottish? french?
east european? african?etc etc
and so what is a pipe tune???
with the top bands playing scottish, french, spanish, folk, *traditional*
etc
who cares about putting labels on the music. The music has come along way
to join together different peoples around the world so let's enjoy the
*sound* and give up the stereotypes...
crap is crap . music is music.