Real Book on MP3
Sam Benediktson
:) But seriously, are you looking for the recording from which the songs
were transcribed (since most of them are transcribed from a specific
recording) or are you looking for any recording of the songs in MP3 format?
If you are just looking for some mp3's of the songs, e-mail me and I can
probably hook you up with some of them. I can probably even find some of
them in the version that they were transcribed from.
Sam
"Yaps" <joshyafa...@home.com> wrote in message
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> I'm looking for the songs from the Real Book on MP3. If anyone has these,
or
> some, or all, it would be much appreciated. TIA.
>
>
Yaps
Joey Goldstein
Yaps wrote:
>
> I'm looking for the songs from the Real Book on MP3. If anyone has these, or
> some, or all, it would be much appreciated. TIA.
Just curious, but why would you want this?
--
Regards:
Joey Goldstein
Guitarist/Jazz Recording Artist/Teacher
Home Page: http://webhome.idirect.com/~joegold
Email: <joegold AT idirect DOT com>
Yaps
don't play a melody or chordal instrument I can't play the melody for myself
and learn the heads without listening to a recording. I want to increase my
vocab, and know the songs when someone calls one out at a gig or a jam
session. It will be a great study tool for me.
"Joey Goldstein" <nos...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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Joey Goldstein
Yaps wrote:
>
> I'm a jazz drummer but I haven't heard 1/2 of the songs in the book. Since I
> don't play a melody or chordal instrument I can't play the melody for myself
> and learn the heads without listening to a recording. I want to increase my
> vocab, and know the songs when someone calls one out at a gig or a jam
> session. It will be a great study tool for me.
Sounds like you're trying to cut corners to me. Corners that can not be
cut if you really want to be a good drummer.
Sit down at a piano and learn to play through the tunes yourself. It's
not that hard. You'll be a better musician for it. Every decent drummer
i've ever played with could do this. Hell Jack dejonette is a great
piano player! By doing so you'll develop a lot more empathy for the
other people you play with too.
Something along the lines of your original plan that would be good for
you though would be to listen to some recordings of great jazz players
playing the tunes in the RB. Go to the library.
I don't think you're gonna find anyone doing an MP3 version of the RB,
maybe MIDI but not MP3.
Yaps
while. It's not a good short term solution for me though since it will take
me a few years to play the melodies and work through the changes. Someday...
:~).
"Joey Goldstein" <nos...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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Joey Goldstein
Yaps wrote:
>
> I agree, playing piano would be the best bet and I've thought about it for a
> while. It's not a good short term solution for me though since it will take
> me a few years to play the melodies and work through the changes. Someday...
> :~).
You could learn to do what you need in a few weeks if you were serious
about it.
maxwe...@my-deja.com
You have mainly 6 options:
1. Learn to hen/peck out the melody. Probally a piano board.
2. buy a box set cd of someone playing/singing all the standards
3. Look at the bottom of the Real Book page, and see who wrote it, and
use Napster to download them.
4. purchase the Jazz pianist from PG MUSIC @ PGMUSIC.COM
5. purchase Band IN The Box from PG Music It plays the standards and
you can print out the Fakebook
6. Jamey Abersol's play along cd's are good too. He's here:
http://www.aebersold.com/ top cats play on these records so that could
be your best bet.
As far as the real book having mistakes, this comment is made by
immature musicians, who need everything written down for them. I could
go on but I won't and spare you.
In article <8u2qmp$qr4$1...@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
"Sam Benediktson" <s-bene...@northwestern.edu> wrote:
> So, do you want the real book on MP3 with all the mistakes or without
them?
> :) But seriously, are you looking for the recording from which the
songs
> were transcribed (since most of them are transcribed from a specific
> recording) or are you looking for any recording of the songs in MP3
format?
> If you are just looking for some mp3's of the songs, e-mail me and I
can
> probably hook you up with some of them. I can probably even find
some of
> them in the version that they were transcribed from.
>
> Sam
>
> "Yaps" <joshyafa...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:xi4N5.390560$i5.65...@news1.frmt1.sfba.home.com...
> > I'm looking for the songs from the Real Book on MP3. If anyone has
these,
> or
> > some, or all, it would be much appreciated. TIA.
> >
> >
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
maxwe...@my-deja.com
maxwe...@my-deja.com
Robby
versions you can order- I haven't tried them, but remember there's an ad
for them in NRB #2.
Sam Benediktson
I admit that I am probably to as mature of a jazz musician as many of the
people in this newsgroup, but at least I didn't suggest that someone should
by one box set cd, where they could find someone playing and singing all of
the standards.
> 2. buy a box set cd of someone playing/singing all the standards
Just out of curiosity, what is your definition of "all the standards," and
what box set is it on, because I would like to buy it. I have well over 200
cd's and I know that I don't have anywhere near _all_ of the jazz standards.
In fact, in one series of fake books I have, there are approximately 2,000
tunes. So, at five minutes per tune, that's 166 hours of music. That's
quite a box set.
> 3. Look at the bottom of the Real Book page, and see who wrote it, and
> use Napster to download them.
In case you didn't know, the text written at the bottom of the page of the
tunes in the real book is _not_ necessarily the person who wrote the tune.
It is either the recording or one of the recordings that the tune was
transcribed from. Unless you're claiming that Bill Evans wrote "What is
this Thing Called Love," and Sam Rivers wrote "When I Fall in Love," and
.... well I guess you get the idea.
> 6. Jamey Abersol's play along cd's are good too. He's here:
> http://www.aebersold.com/ top cats play on these records so that could
> be your best bet.
How exactly would the Jamey Abersol's, which is more commonly spelled
Abersold, help a drummer learn tunes. They don't play the melody. Don't
get me wrong, I think that Jamey Abersold's books are very useful tools for
improvisation, in fact I use them on a daily basis.
>As far as the real book having mistakes, this comment is made by
>immature musicians, who need everything written down for them.
As far as my comment about the errors in the real book goes, I do not use
the real book to learn tunes, because I don't need everything written down
for me. How exactly would I know about the errors in the real book if I
needed everything written down? It's when I'm listening to the recordings,
that I hear the right notes. The only time that I rely on fake books for
changes/melodies for tunes is when I do not have time to consult other
musicians or recordings.
>I could
>go on but I won't and spare you.
Please do go on. I obviously need some help from a mature jazz musician
like yourself, since obviously I know nothing about jazz, simply because I
said that the real book was not dependable for right notes.
-Sam
PS, when posting to a newsgroup, it is generally considered appropriate to
give us one copy of your post, instead of three.
The Walrus
'Immature musicians'? Sounds like somebody else is immature around here.
You are a complete dumb ass if you don't know the mistakes in the Real Book.
Or else you haven't listened to actual versions of the songs before. Before
you go calling people 'immature musicians' you really need to check
yourself. I, too, am a jazz musician and use the real book on gigs since I
do not know *all* the tunes by heart and am a bass player (we *must* get the
chords right or the soloists will sound like crap, and we will get fired).
Please, be a little kinder to the posters around here. You are not the
all-mighty, omniscient jazz god, y'know.
-The Walrus
Goo Goo G'Joob
<maxwe...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Yaps, forget some of the "opoinions/advice" that you just read.
> You have mainly 6 options:
>
> 1. Learn to hen/peck out the melody. Probally a piano board.
> 2. buy a box set cd of someone playing/singing all the standards
> 3. Look at the bottom of the Real Book page, and see who wrote it, and
> use Napster to download them.
> 4. purchase the Jazz pianist from PG MUSIC @ PGMUSIC.COM
> 5. purchase Band IN The Box from PG Music It plays the standards and
> you can print out the Fakebook
> 6. Jamey Abersol's play along cd's are good too. He's here:
> http://www.aebersold.com/ top cats play on these records so that could
> be your best bet.
> As far as the real book having mistakes, this comment is made by
> immature musicians, who need everything written down for them. I could
> go on but I won't and spare you.
>
>
Sam Benediktson
I really don't think that these play along tapes/cd's are make for drummers.
Every good drummer that I have played with was interested in learning the
head to the tune. A recording of the rhythm section playing the changes
made to play a solo over is really not a lot of help for a drummer.
Sam
"Robby" <rob...@javanet.com> wrote in message
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maxwe...@my-deja.com
you must not have used them.
In article <8unnu9$k4e$1...@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
maxwe...@my-deja.com
There I said it.
In article <t0un739...@corp.supernews.com>,
maxwe...@my-deja.com
through your posting. I'm not even gonna dignify it with a response. I
obviously hit a nerve with you.
In article <8unk08$gm0$1...@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
"Sam Benediktson" <s-bene...@northwestern.edu> wrote:
> maxwell_guy,
>
> I admit that I am probably to as mature of a jazz musician as many of
the
> people in this newsgroup, but at least I didn't suggest that someone
should
> by one box set cd, where they could find someone playing and singing
all of
> the standards.
>
> > 2. buy a box set cd of someone playing/singing all the standards
>
> Just out of curiosity, what is your definition of "all the standards,"
and
> what box set is it on, because I would like to buy it. I have well
over 200
> cd's and I know that I don't have anywhere near _all_ of the jazz
standards.
> In fact, in one series of fake books I have, there are approximately
2,000
> tunes. So, at five minutes per tune, that's 166 hours of music.
That's
> quite a box set.
>
> > 3. Look at the bottom of the Real Book page, and see who wrote it,
and
> > use Napster to download them.
>
> In case you didn't know, the text written at the bottom of the page of
the
> tunes in the real book is _not_ necessarily the person who wrote the
tune.
> It is either the recording or one of the recordings that the tune was
> transcribed from. Unless you're claiming that Bill Evans wrote "What
is
> this Thing Called Love," and Sam Rivers wrote "When I Fall in Love,"
and
> .... well I guess you get the idea.
>
> > 6. Jamey Abersol's play along cd's are good too. He's here:
> > http://www.aebersold.com/ top cats play on these records so that
could
> > be your best bet.
>
> How exactly would the Jamey Abersol's, which is more commonly spelled
> Abersold, help a drummer learn tunes. They don't play the melody.
Don't
> get me wrong, I think that Jamey Abersold's books are very useful
tools for
> improvisation, in fact I use them on a daily basis.
>
> >As far as the real book having mistakes, this comment is made by
> >immature musicians, who need everything written down for them.
>
> As far as my comment about the errors in the real book goes, I do not
use
> the real book to learn tunes, because I don't need everything written
down
> for me. How exactly would I know about the errors in the real book if
I
> needed everything written down? It's when I'm listening to the
recordings,
> that I hear the right notes. The only time that I rely on fake books
for
> changes/melodies for tunes is when I do not have time to consult other
> musicians or recordings.
>
> >I could
> >go on but I won't and spare you.
>
> Please do go on. I obviously need some help from a mature jazz
musician
> like yourself, since obviously I know nothing about jazz, simply
because I
> said that the real book was not dependable for right notes.
>
> -Sam
>
> PS, when posting to a newsgroup, it is generally considered
appropriate to
> give us one copy of your post, instead of three.
>
>
Sam Benediktson
a portion of all of them, and I haven't been able to hear the melody once.
Could you please tell me which Aebersold you have heard which has someone
playing the melody on it? I use them on a daily basis because I can check
them out from a library for free, and I have probably played at least 50
them. But, it doesn't really matter. Please see the post below.
Sam
<maxwe...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> The play along has the melody too.
> you must not have used them.
>
> In article <8unnu9$k4e$1...@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
> "Sam Benediktson" <s-bene...@northwestern.edu> wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > I really don't think that these play along tapes/cd's are make for
> drummers.
> > Every good drummer that I have played with was interested in learning
> the
> > head to the tune. A recording of the rhythm section playing the
> changes
> > made to play a solo over is really not a lot of help for a drummer.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > "Robby" <rob...@javanet.com> wrote in message
> > news:3A0E83...@javanet.com...
> > > Also, the legal "new real books" (Sher publishing) have recorded
> > > versions you can order- I haven't tried them, but remember there's
> an ad
> > > for them in NRB #2.
> >
> >
>
>
Sam Benediktson
I think the reason why you didn't like the way I made a joke about the real
book having errors is because you don't think people should depend on fake
books to learn tunes. I completely agree with that. I think that tunes
should be learned off of recordings, and the best way to learn a standard is
to listen to a vocalist sing it. The reason why I complained about the real
book having errors in it is because I don't think people can depend on it,
or any fakebook for that matter, to learn tunes. I think fakebooks are
great references to see what other people heard from recordings, and they
are good for if you need to learn a tune very quickly, or you have to play a
tune that you've never even heard before because you're on a job.
The reason why I went through your post and found problems with all of your
suggestions was simply because you said that I was an immature musician
because I said there were errors in the real book, and I really do apologize
for doing that. I, and most of the people reading your post know what you
meant by your suggestions, but, like you said, he hit a nerve with me.
Sam
MICHAEL CRUTCHER
Jamey Aebersold
> maxwe...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > Sam you are an idiot. Anyone with any sense can see your ignorance
> > through your posting. I'm not even gonna dignify it with a response. I
> > obviously hit a nerve with you.
>
> > In article <8unk08$gm0$1...@news.acns.nwu.edu>,
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
Joey Goldstein
maxwe...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Sam you are an idiot. Anyone with any sense can see your ignorance
> through your posting. I'm not even gonna dignify it with a response. I
> obviously hit a nerve with you.
That's funny because as I go through this thread tallying up the idiotic
comments <maxwe...@my-deja.com>, whoever the Hell that is, is clearly
ahead in the count.
Joey Goldstein
maxwe...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Sam you are an idiot. Anyone with any sense can see your ignorance
> through your posting. I'm not even gonna dignify it with a response. I
> obviously hit a nerve with you.
That's funny because as I go through this thread tallying up the idiotic
comments <maxwe...@my-deja.com> is clearly ahead in the count.
maxwe...@my-deja.com
maxwe...@my-deja.com
"MICHAEL CRUTCHER" <FUNKI...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> For the record, speaking of incredible ignorance, the man's name is
I didn't realize that some readers are that anal retentive about things
like that. Just some type of retalitory device, because of some offense
taken of what I posted.
spelled
> Jamey Aebersold
Good for you Michael. There I've validated you. You're ok.:)
{{{Michael}}}
MICHAEL CRUTCHER
offense wasn't about what you posted, it had to do more with your tone and
insult of others. If you're going to rattle on about ignorance, say what you
mean. Ignorance of music also has to do with knowing who the hell you're
talking about, and Jamey Abersold may be a great musician, for all we know.
Aebersold, however, is a little more accessible...
<maxwe...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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maxwe...@my-deja.com
"MICHAEL CRUTCHER" <FUNKI...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> You may *think* that you can read my mind, but you obviously can't.
The
> offense wasn't about what you posted, it had to do more with your
tone and
> insult of others.
I saw you coming a mile away Michael Crutcher.
I knew that's why you are so "mad". Why you felt the need to "help".
Who asked you to "help" them Michael? I validated you. You should be ok
now. What's wrong?
If you're going to rattle on about ignorance, say what you
> mean.
Who left you the newsgroup police? I'll tell you who. Nobody.
>Ignorance of music also has to do with knowing who the hell you're
> talking about,
We were talking about Real Books, and Jazz, not the spealling of
someone's name. Everyone, even you, knew who I meant. Focus Michael. If
you are to "come to someone's rescue", you'd better know what you are
doing, or what's going on. Ok? OK.
Oh Michael Crutcher, I *can* read your mind. I saw you coming a mile
away!
I still think you are ok. Ironically I think you honestly *were* trying
to defend someone who didn't need, or probally want your help. Don't
worry about it. Me and the guy are ok.
Go take a walk, and get off the computer.
By they way, check out some Codependant meettings in your area.
<wink> :) DETACH! MICH*EA*L, DETACH!! The world will be ok. Things have
a way of resolving themselves, without you. Release! DETACH! I say!
{{{{{{{{{{{{Michael}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
novi...@my-deja.com
"Yaps" <joshyafa...@home.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for the songs from the Real Book on MP3. If anyone has
these, or
> some, or all, it would be much appreciated. TIA.
>
>
This may have been covered, but I've been downloading RB tunes from
emusic.com. I believe they are offering a free trial right now. The
artists are generally not big names, but it's pretty cool to download
several different versions of a tune and see how it's been treated.
Often there is a version by a vocalist, so you can hear the lyrics.
Susan Tucker
MICHAEL CRUTCHER
I get away from my computer here and there. Get over your "writer wanna-be"
self and get back to the issue, without stupid quips about "newsgroup
police", etc. I wasn't "coming to someone's rescue" at all. And I'm not
really mad as much as amused by your ignorance of the issue. If you can't
spell, what are you doing posting things from a computer? If you don't know
about Jamey Aebersold, what are you doing involving yourself in jazz? And if
you don't know what you're talking about, what are you doing flaming me?
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Yaps
Thanks
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