Story of Dokhtare Ziba song
Dariush Anooshfa
: Hello Everyone,
: I think I should add to the discussion about Dokhtar Ziba
: (Mara Bebos) song thread. Recently I bought a book called
: "Khaterati az Honarmandan" (Memories of Artists) by Parviz
: Khatibi. I hope at some other time I get a chance to write
: about the book and its author, but now I like to re-write
: the story of this song and its singer as told in this book.
: BTW, the book was published by Parviz Khatibi Cultural
: Foundation in the US.
: This song was written by Majid Vafadar at around 1320's
: (1940's) and first sang by a female singer called Parvaneh
: (not Khatereh Parvaneh). The first time around the song
: did not become popular. Majid Vafadar always wanted to
: have it song by somebody else. In 1335 (1955), Parviz
: Yahaghi and a piano player in one of the Radio Iran
: studios play this song for Hassan Golnaraghi. After a
: couple of tries, they ask Golnaraghi to give it a try.
: Somebody records the song without Golnaraghi's knowledge.
: Golnaraghi was from a traditional family and that's why the
: the song was first broadcasted as an anonymous song. In a
: matter of days the song become very popular and everyone was
: asking about its singer. At this time, the rumor started that
: the song was actually written by Sarhang Mobasheri or
: Sarhang Siamak of the Tudeh party. Especially due to the
: political atmosphere of those days and lyrics which really
: fit the stories going around.
: Finally Golnaraghi agrees to do an interview with "Roshanfekr"
: magazine and tells that the music is written by Majid Vafadar
: and lyrics by Heydar Roghabi (Haleh). The rumors nevertheless
: didn't stop and new rumors started that this story and
: interview is cooked up by SAVAK to divert people's attention.
: Anyhow this was the one and only song ever sang publicly and
: recorded by Golnaraghi. He passed away a couple of years back.
: With Regards
: Mohammad Rezai
Thank you for posting this Mohammad djaan.
I would like to accept this explanation from Mr. Khatibi
courtesy of Mr. Rezai. Why? Well, it tells you how exactly a
protest [even a revolutionary] song comes to birth.
It is quite possible that people **WANTED**
to believe this song as such - and did not even pay attention to
any revealing interview - because it simply, the song, was
*different*.
Also, I remember there was a field at the northern end of the
Ameeraabaad street, later on the begining of the Elizabeth
Boulevard?, called "Djalaalee-yeh". It merely was a horse racing
track. I recall we saw Mr. Golnaraaghee at least a couple of times
racing his horse there and he was known to be a fantastic jocky!
The *rumor* :) was that he was from "ashaayer" [perhaps this
is what you mean Mohammad by saying "from a traditional family"?
BUT! :) If you and of course Kamran would forgive me! :)
I'd still like to stick to the hypothesis of this melody being
Greek! Although I might have my full confidence in Mr. Vafaadaar,
nevertheless it was very customary for a song composer in those
days to *adapt* some tune and yet put his/her own name on it.
Namely all those adapted songs by Mr. Ataa-o-llah Khorram and
others which are the subject of another thread in this newsgroup
and all have been copied varbatim from other music used to
and still bear hteir adapters' names!
Now that you have pushed the birth of this song back to the 40's;
one should not either forget the influence of the WWII allies
soldiers in Iran. Most were Indian [from India of course] and
trailing right after them were the Greeks!
So, is it possible that Mr. Vafaadaar just heard some song
from them and decided to echo it?
What I mean is not to shout forgery or anything like that. Simply
what I suggest is that the melodic structure of this song is
drastically different than the mainstream of the time, or even
today's Iranian song melodies. Perhaps out of all those numerous
songs of the past and present only *one* other song has the
same melodic movement and that is another very famous song of
"Elaaheyeh Naaz" sung by Banaan and Marzeeyeh too?
So howcome out of perhaps thousands of songs only this one and
the later have a *totally* different structure?! Eventhough
their composers continued to compose the kosher regular stuff?
Thanks again, you drew the mystery deeper in time! :) And perhaps
closer to its roots.
Dariush.
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Kamran Hooshmand
is true, I wonder if people would accept that, or would continue to
believe in the rumor?
Kamran
mohammad rezai
Jeffrey D. Carpenter
writes:
>Hello Everyone,
>
>I think I should add to the discussion about Dokhtar Ziba
>Mohammad Rezai
>
Was Parvaneh not the singer who tried to emulate Delkash's style and in
fact sang a few of her songs. (Az gham AzAdam, dar dAm oftAdam ... is
about all I remember - she had more of a tenor voice than Delkash - if
you can imagine!) I thought she had a short career in late 50's to
early 60's. Anyone out there old enough to remember? hehe :)
Regards,
Javad Naini
na...@wln.com
PS: I don't have direct access to rec.music.iranian yet, so I am using
a friend's account for now.