Nine Inch Nails "suck", Thank God for the Aphex Twin
dj jurgen
suck(and i don't mean their song.). The Aphex twin has brought a lot of
much needed credibility to the latest and best Nine Inch Nails release -
Further Down the Spiral. I guess good old Trent realized that there are
more creative and better artists out there than himself (eg. Aphex
Twin, Coil and Foetus)and he let them manipulate his music better than he
ever could. I guess Trent really is sinking further down the spiral.
Online Disputes: jur...@io.org
dj jurgen
dj jurgen
jwarren
I am not going to get into arguments whether they suck or not. If NIN
sucks I don't care. By the way I guess Trent realized that there are
more creative and better artists out there before that, because Fixed
had Coil, Foetus and more do the remixing. Trent almost always gets
someone else to remix his songs.
Dave
Legion
>I would just like to say that in my humble opinion Nine Inch Nails
>suck(and i don't mean their song.). The Aphex twin has brought a lot of
>much needed credibility to the latest and best Nine Inch Nails release -
>Further Down the Spiral. I guess good old Trent realized that there are
>more creative and better artists out there than himself (eg. Aphex
>Twin, Coil and Foetus)and he let them manipulate his music better than he
>ever could. I guess Trent really is sinking further down the spiral.
Aphex Twin that creative genius... I would say that repitive, stuck in
a rut, not inspiring, used to be groundbreaking... I could go on. I can
see you are begging me to say who great and original Mr. Reznor is, but I
won't get sucked in because I don't agree. I will say Aphex Twin doesn't
lend anything but a minor annoyance on FDtS.
Black Sun
>
>I would just like to say that in my humble opinion Nine Inch Nails
>suck(and i don't mean their song.). The Aphex twin has brought a lot of
>much needed credibility to the latest and best Nine Inch Nails release -
>Further Down the Spiral. I guess good old Trent realized that there are
>more creative and better artists out there than himself (eg. Aphex
>Twin, Coil and Foetus)and he let them manipulate his music better than
he
>ever could.
not that the aphex twin track is a manipulation of trent's music at all;
it really has nothing to do with trent. in a interview i read with
richard james (aphex twin), he said that sometimes he'll be paid to remix
a track that's so shitty that he doesn't know what to do with it, so he
just gives the band an old song of his and says it's a remix even though
it's not. i imagine that's what happened in this scenario.
anyone else notice that coil's version of "the downward spiral" contains
bits and pieces of coil's "first dark ride"? (the b-side to the coil vs.
eskaton nasarab 12")
>Online Disputes: jur...@io.org
>
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See the Black Sun rise...
...from the Solar Lodge
Shadow Weaver
>idiot...NIN is one of the headliners in today's industrial music
>soceity. To make a comment such as that takes either a general lack of
Man... Just go die.
Please.
Thanks.
Erin Nash
>
>I would just like to say that in my humble opinion Nine Inch Nails
>suck(and i don't mean their song.). The Aphex twin has brought a lot of
>much needed credibility to the latest and best Nine Inch Nails release
-
>Further Down the Spiral. I guess good old Trent realized that there are
>more creative and better artists out there than himself (eg. Aphex
>Twin, Coil and Foetus)and he let them manipulate his music better than
he
>ever could. I guess Trent really is sinking further down the spiral.
>
>
>Online Disputes: jur...@io.org
>
>
idiot...NIN is one of the headliners in today's industrial music
soceity. To make a comment such as that takes either a general lack of
cranial capacity or really big balls. Since you obviously are a unich i
would say that you have a lack of intelligence. Next time you make a
comment about an INCREDIBLE band fucking back it up with facts or maybe
some evidence.
Legion
>dj jurgen <jur...@io.org> wrote:
>>
>>I would just like to say that in my humble opinion Nine Inch Nails
>>suck(and i don't mean their song.). The Aphex twin has brought a lot of
>
>>much needed credibility to the latest and best Nine Inch Nails release -
>
>>Further Down the Spiral. I guess good old Trent realized that there are
>
>>more creative and better artists out there than himself (eg. Aphex
>>Twin, Coil and Foetus)and he let them manipulate his music better than
>he
>>ever could.
>
>it really has nothing to do with trent. in a interview i read with
>richard james (aphex twin), he said that sometimes he'll be paid to remix
>a track that's so shitty that he doesn't know what to do with it, so he
>just gives the band an old song of his and says it's a remix even though
>it's not. i imagine that's what happened in this scenario.
Come on, give me a break. It is obvious as hell that the song is made from
samples of NIN. I don't know if I would call it a remix, but it isn't an
original, with his own samples and sounds.
Chris.Hilker
>these sounds are either from a sampling disc
>or are patches on a sample-playback synth (unless james has been
>recording and sampling orcehstras).
He has been, while working with Philip Glass on a collaboration to be
released later this year (under the title "Donkey Rhubarb," I believe).
C.
--
cs...@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) "I feel like I'm being electrocuted."
The alt.rave mini-FAQ: "Q: ?" "A: hyperreal.com (http://hyperreal.com)"
LOgre2'3
: idiot...NIN is one of the headliners in today's industrial music soceity.
I love nin and everything, but saying Trent is the best thing in
industrial today is very ignorant. It also shows you know nothing of the
industrial scene today.
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og...@netaxs.com
digital poodle
> Aphex Twin that creative genius... I would say that repitive, stuck in
>a rut, not inspiring, used to be groundbreaking... I could go on. I can
>see you are begging me to say who great and original Mr. Reznor is, but I
>won't get sucked in because I don't agree. I will say Aphex Twin doesn't
>lend anything but a minor annoyance on FDtS.
aphex twin has a unique sound you could say. i'm not saying it's good, or you
should like it. but the sound you just described is exactly what he's
supposed to sound like, it's a minimalistic imperfection that i havent heard
duplicated by any artist yet. you try making something that sounds like his!
yes, it IS repetitive, some people like it, obviously you don't.
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dp
Black Sun
> Come on, give me a break. It is obvious as hell that the song is made
from
>samples of NIN. I don't know if I would call it a remix, but it isn't
an
>original, with his own samples and sounds.
>
please point out where these samples were lifted from. "at the heart of
it all" uses mostly orchestral string/horn sounds, of which there are
none on the downward spiral. these sounds are either from a sampling disc
or are patches on a sample-playback synth (unless james has been
recording and sampling orcehstras). the only place where trent even used
orchestral-type sounds is in "a warm place", and those sounds are much
different from "at the heart of it all". and all of the drum sounds on
that track are the same drum sounds that r.james used on his last album,
so obviously he had them long before trent could have given him the
master tapes to sample from. besides, r. james probably wouldn't even
bother to take the time to do quality sampling of the nin tapes and do a
creative re-interpretation of trent; he'd rather just take ten minutes
and throw trent one of the hundreds of songs he's done...
Erin Nash
Sun) writes:
what the hell do you know? you're on prodigy..:)
Count Zero
Mark A. Pitcher
: quoting cere...@dsmnet.com from article <3v3f3g$7...@dsm6.dsmnet.com>...
I was anxious to hear them, having heard much about them. Much to
my dismay, their music sounds like the stuff people make when they get
their first MIDI rig.
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Peter Zinda
: In <3v2vis$o...@ionews.io.org> dj jurgen <jur...@io.org> writes:
: >
: >I would just like to say that in my humble opinion Nine Inch Nails
: >suck(and i don't mean their song.). The Aphex twin has brought a lot of
: >much needed credibility to the latest and best Nine Inch Nails release
: -
: >Further Down the Spiral. I guess good old Trent realized that there are
: >more creative and better artists out there than himself (eg. Aphex
: >Twin, Coil and Foetus)and he let them manipulate his music better than
: he
: >ever could. I guess Trent really is sinking further down the spiral.
: >
: >
: >Online Disputes: jur...@io.org
: >
: >
: idiot...NIN is one of the headliners in today's industrial music
: soceity. To make a comment such as that takes either a general lack of
: cranial capacity or really big balls. Since you obviously are a unich i
: would say that you have a lack of intelligence. Next time you make a
: comment about an INCREDIBLE band fucking back it up with facts or maybe
: some evidence.
Yes, and since you are obviously someone who reads SPIN for your
information, I will overlook the fact that you mis-spelled "eunuch". And
since when does being a castrato affect your intelligence, unless, of
course, you spend a great deal of time thinking with your dick? Uh-oh...did
I call this one correctly?
Nine Inch Nails is a headliner amongst the commercial "alternative" market
today because he has a killer promotions team that makes sure that he is.
Try this little experiment...go down to your Tower records and
pick up "Underneath the Laughter" by Leaetherstrip. Listen to it, and
compare it track-to-track with "Downward Spiral". Claus put that CD out with
probably a $1500 budget, and Trent received $3 MILLION to make
"Spiral"...and he didn't get to rent some house in the Hollywood Hills to
use as a recording studio either...he did it in his own house. If Trent had
used all of that money to create something as powerful as "Underneath the
Laughter", I wouldn't be so quick to criticize him. Heck, maybe I would have
even bought it. Hell, even Armageddon Dildos only had a $10,000 budget for
"Lost", and much of that was spent on hotels, renting Chicago Trax, and
paying Fluffy. Even with Sire records backing them up along with Music
Research, that's not a huge sum to work with. Regardless, they ate, drank,
and breathed "Lost" 24 hours a day for a month.
Anyway, this is why I am disgusted with Nine Inch Nails.
michiplasma
Erin Nash
(LOgre2'3) writes:
>Erin Nash (ERA...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: idiot...NIN is one of the headliners in today's industrial music
soceity.
>
>industrial today is very ignorant. It also shows you know nothing of
the
>industrial scene today.
>
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>LOgre2'3
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>og...@netaxs.com
headliner...not the headliner
Erin Nash
>
>: >
>: >I would just like to say that in my humble opinion Nine Inch Nails
>: >suck(and i don't mean their song.). The Aphex twin has brought a
lot of
>: >much needed credibility to the latest and best Nine Inch Nails
release
>: -
>: >Further Down the Spiral. I guess good old Trent realized that there
are
>: >more creative and better artists out there than himself (eg. Aphex
>: >Twin, Coil and Foetus)and he let them manipulate his music better
than
>: he
>: >ever could. I guess Trent really is sinking further down the
spiral.
>: >
>: >
>: >Online Disputes: jur...@io.org
>: >
>: >
>
of
>: cranial capacity or really big balls. Since you obviously are a
unich i
>: would say that you have a lack of intelligence. Next time you make
a
>: comment about an INCREDIBLE band fucking back it up with facts or
maybe
>: some evidence.
>
>Yes, and since you are obviously someone who reads SPIN for your
>information, I will overlook the fact that you mis-spelled "eunuch".
And
>since when does being a castrato affect your intelligence, unless, of
>course, you spend a great deal of time thinking with your dick?
anything to do with his intelligence. Read it again smart guy.
Uh-oh...did
>I call this one correctly?
>Nine Inch Nails is a headliner amongst the commercial "alternative"
market
>today because he has a killer promotions team that makes sure that he
is.
>Try this little experiment...go down to your Tower records and
> pick up "Underneath the Laughter" by Leaetherstrip. Listen to it, and
to the public more so he's not as good. Well that's the same stupid
elitest mentality that makes me so sick of you assholes. You want your
own little genre to yourself and when someone breaks through to the
mainstream you start to resent him.
out with
>probably a $1500 budget, and Trent received $3 MILLION to make
>"Spiral"...and he didn't get to rent some house in the Hollywood Hills
to
>use as a recording studio either...he did it in his own house. If
Trent had
>used all of that money to create something as powerful as "Underneath
the
>Laughter", I wouldn't be so quick to criticize him. Heck, maybe I
would have
>even bought it. Hell, even Armageddon Dildos only had a $10,000 budget
for
>"Lost", and much of that was spent on hotels, renting Chicago Trax,
and
>paying Fluffy. Even with Sire records backing them up along with Music
>Research, that's not a huge sum to work with. Regardless, they ate,
drank,
>and breathed "Lost" 24 hours a day for a month.
>Anyway, this is why I am disgusted with Nine Inch Nails.
>
>michiplasma
you may hear the power behind it, and try putting it on a low grade
tape and playing it continuously for about 2 wks, the degradation will
bring to the front tracks that you could not have hoped to hear before,
then you will know the true complexity of the album.
Count Zero