Does anyone remember Trent Reznor dissing FLA in SPIN?
Ankharu333
dissed back, but I can't recall what was said. I do know that that was the
reason I bought Caustic Grip just to see if it sucked and of course it beat
NIN's ass into the ground.
Hexonxonx
Ankharu333 <ankha...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I remember that SPIN interview and Trent was very stupid with his remarks.
Then again, that really doesn't surprise me. In any case, I don't remember
FLA's response to Trent's comments but it wasn't as slamming. Trent's
stupidity was his own doing and later on, he regretted making the remark.
Stupid, stupid...
BTW, I enjoyed Caustic Grip and the album was way ahead of it's time when it
was first released. IMO, It certainly beats all of the NIN albums combined.
Hex
Psionic Imperator
> Then again, that really doesn't surprise me. In any case, I don't remember
> FLA's response to Trent's comments but it wasn't as slamming. Trent's
> stupidity was his own doing and later on, he regretted making the remark.
> Stupid, stupid...
~During a brief relationship with a certain "old-schooler" of the Vancouver
Electro scene, I learned many nifty bits of trivia.. One of which is that
shortly before that interview was published, Trent called Bill and begged
apology for his idiocy... Fuck, what I wouldn't give to have gotten that on
tape!~
~Keith~
~djPSIONIC~
:ELECTROMAGNETIC:
~Saturday nights, 8 - 10,
cjsf, 93.9 cable fm
Vancouver, BC, Canada~
"The synthesis of aggression in sequence."
Hexonxonx
Psionic Imperator <psi...@axion.net> wrote in message
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> ~During a brief relationship with a certain "old-schooler" of the
Vancouver Electro scene, I learned many nifty bits of trivia.. One of which
is that shortly before that interview was published, Trent called Bill and
begged apology for his idiocy... Fuck, what I wouldn't give to have gotten
that on tape!~
I honestly don't think Trent had apologies in mind if he called Bill. In
reality, Trent probably wanted to wear a gimp costume and suck Bill's dick.
Hex
Psionic Imperator
> Vancouver Electro scene, I learned many nifty bits of trivia.. One of
which
> is that shortly before that interview was published, Trent called Bill and
> begged apology for his idiocy... Fuck, what I wouldn't give to have gotten
> that on tape!~
>
> I honestly don't think Trent had apologies in mind if he called Bill. In
> reality, Trent probably wanted to wear a gimp costume and suck Bill's
dick.
~6 of one, half dozen of the other...
Trent="Sorry Bill.. *glub-gag* I'll never do it again, honest..
*slorp-spit*"
Bill="Now hum head like a hole, bitch!"
Trent="With my mouth full?"
Bill="Yes."
Hexonxonx
> ~6 of one, half dozen of the other...
> Trent="Sorry Bill.. *glub-gag* I'll never do it again, honest..
> *slorp-spit*"
> Bill="Now hum head like a hole, bitch!"
> Trent="With my mouth full?"
> Bill="Yes."
Trent didn't get those round lips from eating square meals.
Hex
Andrew Robinson
>> I honestly don't think Trent had apologies in mind if he called Bill. In
>> reality, Trent probably wanted to wear a gimp costume and suck Bill's
>dick.
Damn. I can see the marketing potential here:
Trent: "I do all my shopping at EXTRA-FETISH. Gimp gear for the well
fed slave."
>
>~6 of one, half dozen of the other...
>Trent="Sorry Bill.. *glub-gag* I'll never do it again, honest..
>*slorp-spit*"
>Bill="Now hum head like a hole, bitch!"
>Trent="With my mouth full?"
>Bill="Yes."
>
>
>~Keith~
>~djPSIONIC~
>:ELECTROMAGNETIC:
>~Saturday nights, 8 - 10,
>cjsf, 93.9 cable fm
>Vancouver, BC, Canada~
>"The synthesis of aggression in sequence."
>
>
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> Hexonxonx wrote:
> >
> > Psionic Imperator <psi...@axion.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > > Trent="Sorry Bill.. *glub-gag* I'll never do it again, honest..
> > > *slorp-spit*"
> > > Bill="Now hum head like a hole, bitch!"
> > > Trent="With my mouth full?"
> > > Bill="Yes."
> >
>
Fat and gay and without a pet dog.
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> Psionic Imperator <psi...@axion.net> wrote in message
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>
> > ~6 of one, half dozen of the other...
> > Trent="Sorry Bill.. *glub-gag* I'll never do it again, honest..
> > *slorp-spit*"
> > Bill="Now hum head like a hole, bitch!"
> > Trent="With my mouth full?"
> > Bill="Yes."
>
> Trent didn't get those round lips from eating square meals.
I guess that's why Trent got so fat, too much sugar.
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Dayv!
role of "Hexonxonx" <HEXO...@prodigy.net> turned to the director and
said:
~!~ I honestly don't think Trent had apologies in mind if he called
Bill. In
~!~ reality, Trent probably wanted to wear a gimp costume and suck
Bill's dick.
What, again?
-Dayv!
"May you wander over the face of the earth forever,
never sleep twice in the same bed,
never drink water twice from the same well,
and never cross the same river twice in a year, bitch."
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>Per <punctureSPA...@flash.net> wrote...
>> Hexonxonx wrote:
>> >
>> > Psionic Imperator <psi...@axion.net> wrote in message
>> > news:372f...@news.vphos.net...
>> >
>> > > ~6 of one, half dozen of the other...
>> > > Trent="Sorry Bill.. *glub-gag* I'll never do it again, honest..
>> > > *slorp-spit*"
>> > > Bill="Now hum head like a hole, bitch!"
>> > > Trent="With my mouth full?"
>> > > Bill="Yes."
>> >
>> > Trent didn't get those round lips from eating square meals.
>>
>> I guess that's why Trent got so fat, too much sugar.
>
>Fat and gay and without a pet dog.
>
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Matthew D. Diez
<19990504004904...@ng-fs1.aol.com>:
>Does anyone remember this? I remember Reznor dissed them and FLA wrote
>in and dissed back, but I can't recall what was said. I do know that
>that was the reason I bought Caustic Grip just to see if it sucked and
>of course it beat NIN's ass into the ground.
>
The info you requested, as stolen from http://www.mindphaser.com, IMO the
best site devoted to His Leebness.
-Here we go-
What did Trent Reznor say about FLA?
Excerpt from Spin Magazine, March 1992:
Trent Reznor- "For every band that I think has something to say,
like Ministry, or Meat
Beat Manifesto, there's twice as many that have realized the
formula for industrial music: repetitive 16th-note bass lines,
snarling vocals--usually unintelligible screaming about the
horrible condition of the planet or some kind of doomsday message
about how shitty things are. Front Line Assembly is a textbook case
of a band that---I can't listen to a fucking song, let alone an
album. Just monotonous, boring uninspired bullshit. And they're far
more traditional and far more exemplary of 'industrial' than NIN
is."
Trent later issued an apology to FLA. I don't know what it said, so
if anyone can enlighten me I would appreciate it.
Bill responded like this: (in an interview by Sandra Garcia in B
-side Magazine)
"The worst thing about the Trent incident is the apology. I know he
didn't write that. I think his manager wrote that. I think I have
less respect for him sending that apology. If he didn't send it, I
would have just thought that he was an asshole." He continues, "I
think the only person he didn't slag was Al [Jourgensen of
Ministry], and why? Because Al's the kind of guy where if you said
something like that about him he'd come looking for you."
Bill also considered slagging Trent in every interview he did, but
realized that it would make him look like a jerk.
------And that's that-
What I find interesting is that Trent said Al had "something to say".
Let's all not forget that that same person brought us the great tune
"Effigy(I'm not an)".
Ahh, Bill Leeb - What's in a name? A Leeb by any other name would not...
oh nevermind.
-Diez
MultiTasker Systems
"Matthew D. Diez" wrote:
would still be fat and gay. Oh wait, that's Trent.
>
> oh nevermind.
>
> -Diez
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Mr. Tangent
"Hexonxonx" <HEXO...@prodigy.net> to write:
>I remember that SPIN interview and Trent was very stupid with his remarks.
>Then again, that really doesn't surprise me. In any case, I don't remember
>FLA's response to Trent's comments but it wasn't as slamming. Trent's
>stupidity was his own doing and later on, he regretted making the remark.
>Stupid, stupid...
Yes, it was stupid on Trent's behalf, but it was no worse than FLA's recent
slamming of haujobb in an interview. And this coming from Bill Leeb who has
worked with haujobb on Noise Unit (albeit minimally) AND is on several of the
same labels as haujobb. Regardless, I think Trent was right on the money and
several years ahead of his time by his quote about FLA and industrial music.
He was merely stating that the 16th note bassline and distorted vocal thing
had gotten very stagnant and quite repetitive. I like electro and FLA but it
is true, both have gotten extremely repetitive in their inability to do new
things. There are exceptions of course, but by and large Trent was right
about his comments on FLA/electro-industrial - and this was years before most
other people had the guts to say the same. He shouldn't have made the
personal attack on FLA though and just left it vague.
>BTW, I enjoyed Caustic Grip and the album was way ahead of it's time when it
>was first released. IMO, It certainly beats all of the NIN albums combined.
I don't think I agree with that. As much as I love FLA and "Caustic Grip", I
think "The Downward Spiral" is a much more defined, textured and complex
album. But this is all personal opinion so it doesn't really matter. :)
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Mr. Tangent
"Psionic Imperator" <psi...@axion.net> to write:
>~During a brief relationship with a certain "old-schooler" of the Vancouver
>Electro scene, I learned many nifty bits of trivia.. One of which is that
>shortly before that interview was published, Trent called Bill and begged
>apology for his idiocy... Fuck, what I wouldn't give to have gotten that on
>tape!~
He didn't call Bill. He wrote to him and said he had done the interview and
apologized (not begged) for how the interview had came out. Apparently he
felt that the interviewer had coaxed him into saying negative things about
FLA and that the interviewer in question had no clue about the industrial
genre. I'm certainly an "old schooler" and remember all this by
reading/hearing about it at the time. I have several interviews with both
FLA and NIN (including the original Spin article) if anyone wants more info.
MBerry4559
>Yes, it was stupid on Trent's behalf, but it was no worse than FLA's recent
>slamming of haujobb in an interview
I'd just like to point out, my favorite quote from that interview with
Bill is in my sig :)
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Mberr...@aol.com
~IN: What about Haujobb?~
~Bill Leeb: Those guys are lightweights... what have they done? On a good day
they sound like Puppy Rip-Offs.~
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Psionic Imperator
Vancouver
> >Electro scene, I learned many nifty bits of trivia.. One of which is that
> >shortly before that interview was published, Trent called Bill and begged
> >apology for his idiocy... Fuck, what I wouldn't give to have gotten that
on
> >tape!~
>
> He didn't call Bill. He wrote to him and said he had done the interview
and
> apologized (not begged) for how the interview had came out. Apparently he
> felt that the interviewer had coaxed him into saying negative things about
> FLA and that the interviewer in question had no clue about the industrial
> genre. I'm certainly an "old schooler" and remember all this by
> reading/hearing about it at the time. I have several interviews with both
> FLA and NIN (including the original Spin article) if anyone wants more
info.
~Sorry, Mr.T, but I have to reiterate.. It was a phone call. A letter may
have been involved as well, but it was a phone call originally. The source
of this information comes from none other than Annette, Ogre's ex-wife.
Being as how she has run in those circles from the beginning, I take her
word as valid.~
TheBinary
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Mr. Tangent
"Psionic Imperator" <psi...@axion.net> to write:
>~Sorry, Mr.T, but I have to reiterate.. It was a phone call. A letter may
>have been involved as well, but it was a phone call originally. The source
>of this information comes from none other than Annette, Ogre's ex-wife.
>Being as how she has run in those circles from the beginning, I take her
>word as valid.~
Hmm... well, you're probably correct but I remember Bill saying that Trent
Reznor had wrote him, in an interview. He doesn't mention anything of this
alleged phone call. Here's the interview that I took my information from
(only that part that pertains quoted):
Tempest Magazine, Issue #7, 1991©
Page #25 of the Front Line Assembly interview:
Tempest: What did you think of _Spin's_ article on the so-called "Industrial
Revolution"?
Leeb: I think the guy who wrote it doesn't like Industrial music at all and
obviously didn't research it at all because of all those statements about
Trent (Nine Inch Nails) being the leader of Industrial music. I mean anybody
that knows a bit about the whole thing will know right away that it is
totally false. I think it was bad research and bad writing on the writer's
behalf. Then there was Trent saying that stuff. He sent me an apology three
weeks before that, and I read that and thought, "hmm...this is kind of weird,
I wonder why he's bothering?" So a lot of people in interviews have asked me
that and rather than me go out publicly and slag him I just basically stop by
going, "I'm sure I'll run into him someday and if he has anything to say he
can say it to me, but he probably won't." Asides from that I just thought
why bother and get down to that kind of level. I think there's room for
everybody, so if I did the same thing I would be no worse or better than him.
So I'm just sort of like whatever, he's not important in my life or with
what I do so I just figure, who cares. I think anybody who can make up their
own mind will probably realize that. I mean if I don't like somebody I just
don't talk about them or whatever. I think the guy who wrote the article was
at fault also, and I also blame Spin's editors too. I mean they edit that
stuff, they read it before they print it. So if they couldn't put two and
two together. I mean like why even bother printing that, and then having to
go to the bother of printing an apology. You would think that they would
have the experience and the know how to avoid trouble like that. I think
that it was both their faults.
*end quote*
So, it would seem that either he failed to mention the phone call, or perhaps
the phone call came months later? Regardless, I was just going on the
information from an age-old interview. :)
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> Hexonxonx wrote:
> >
> > Psionic Imperator <psi...@axion.net> wrote in message
> > news:372f...@news.vphos.net...
> >
> > > ~6 of one, half dozen of the other...
> > > Trent="Sorry Bill.. *glub-gag* I'll never do it again, honest..
> > > *slorp-spit*"
> > > Bill="Now hum head like a hole, bitch!"
> > > Trent="With my mouth full?"
> > > Bill="Yes."
> > Trent didn't get those round lips from eating square meals.
>
> I guess that's why Trent got so fat, too much sugar.
>
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shugar intake B) wank less an suck more or C) none of the above?
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> On Tue, 4 May 1999 17:55:07 -0400, the well known actor playing the
> role of "Hexonxonx" <HEXO...@prodigy.net> turned to the director and
> said:
>
> ~!~ I honestly don't think Trent had apologies in mind if he called
> Bill. In
> ~!~ reality, Trent probably wanted to wear a gimp costume and suck
> Bill's dick.
>
> What, again?
>
> -Dayv!
>
> "May you wander over the face of the earth forever,
> never drink water twice from the same <Dayv!>,
> and never cross the same river twice in a year, bitch."
You know that being a slave is habit-inducing, right?
Shutdown
>
> On Tue, 4 May 1999 16:47:38 -0400, with raygun in hand the aliens forced
> "Hexonxonx" <HEXO...@prodigy.net> to write:
>
> >I remember that SPIN interview and Trent was very stupid with his remarks.
> >Then again, that really doesn't surprise me. In any case, I don't remember
> >FLA's response to Trent's comments but it wasn't as slamming. Trent's
> >stupidity was his own doing and later on, he regretted making the remark.
> >Stupid, stupid...
>
> worked with haujobb on Noise Unit (albeit minimally) AND is on several of the
> same labels as haujobb. Regardless, I think Trent was right on the money and
> several years ahead of his time by his quote about FLA and industrial music.
> He was merely stating that the 16th note bassline and distorted vocal thing
> had gotten very stagnant and quite repetitive. I like electro and FLA but it
> is true, both have gotten extremely repetitive in their inability to do new
> things. There are exceptions of course, but by and large Trent was right
> about his comments on FLA/electro-industrial - and this was years before most
> other people had the guts to say the same. He shouldn't have made the
> personal attack on FLA though and just left it vague.
>
> >BTW, I enjoyed Caustic Grip and the album was way ahead of it's time when it
> >was first released. IMO, It certainly beats all of the NIN albums combined.
>
> I don't think I agree with that. As much as I love FLA and "Caustic Grip", I
> think "The Downward Spiral" is a much more defined, textured and complex
>
> --
>
> Mr. Tangent [the binary police]
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wouldexplain the stupidity, since the virus would be eating their system
resources!! Whoo-HAH! Got yall in check!!
Dayv!
role of Shutdown <rai...@netti.fi> turned to the director and said:
¿? (.sgi remix by me!!!!!!)
You remixed my SGI? No wonder the damn thing keeps freezing up,
bitch.
-Dayv!
"May you wander over the face of the earth forever,
never sleep twice in the same bed,
never drink water twice from the same well,
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it rocked, d00d!! I think this is the archetypal case of
media-amplified argument, originally being nothing more that personal
opinion. Hell, my op's would feed music media years! I like FLA and nin
both, and Beatie Boys too, so I really don't wanna take a stance here.
Shutdown
Sorry, I was drunk! I didn't mean it! I was supposed to write .Sig!!
"Dayv!' sounds better bitch when you say everything after it"
-Dayv! .sig remix -99 by ME!!!!!
Shutdown
pecker!!
<bobbit>
There! I feel so much better!!
eh... what I was supposed to say.... Oh yeah! I meant, <something
clever> and <begging for apologies from everybody and their g.o.d.>,
and <inadvertedly disses everything everybody and everything in the
world in the passing>, so I hope that we can be friends. Peace! <sucks
on a limp dick happily like a 2-year-old porn flick veteran.>