Stabbing Westward in Balto
The Supernaut
Any Baltimore people here happen to catch Stabbing Westward at
Hammerjacks this past Saturday? I was just wondering if anybody
else noticed the disproportionate amount of:
1) Men who should've been at Ted Nugent/Women who should have been
at Michael Bolton?
2) Silly boys on the floor who seem to have mistakenly thought it
was a Biohazard show?
Really...I'm not trying to be elitist or anything.....but the crowd
sucked. I saw more puffy white tennis shoes and big hair there than
I've seen in very long time. Granted, with the release of the new album,
they've attracted a "wider audience," but it was ridiculous. I actually
saw people making the "heavy-metal-satan-sign" as a serious gesture.
I don't think I've been that annoyed by people in general at a show in
a long time. Topped with a steady stream of Bob Marley and Rush between
bands, it proved to be a generally annoying night. I really thought
Stabbing Westward put on a GREAT show, though, and that more than made up
for it.
The real kicker was not being allowed to go to the bathroom after they
finished playing 'cause the morons that run that horrible club were
ushering us out to make room for the midnight hip hop dance party.
Mike
Vijay Gill
In article <551jp1$l...@news4.digex.net> supr...@universe.digex.net
(The Supernaut) writes:
From: supr...@universe.digex.net (The Supernaut)
Any Baltimore people here happen to catch Stabbing Westward at
Hammerjacks this past Saturday? I was just wondering if anybody
else noticed the disproportionate amount of:
I had the bad luck of going to that show. It was under duress of
course. Been to hammerjacks so I knew exactly what to expect.
2) Silly boys on the floor who seem to have mistakenly thought it
was a Biohazard show?
That was actually the most amusing part of the show.
Really...I'm not trying to be elitist or anything.....but the crowd
sucked. I saw more puffy white tennis shoes and big hair there than
I've seen in very long time. Granted, with the release of the new album,
No, this is the standard crowd that get to hammerjacks every weekend.
Period. Regardless who is playing there.
Stabbing Westward put on a GREAT show, though, and that more than made up
for it.
Really, I thought they basically blew chunks of raw fetid vomit, the
sort that lies on a sidewalk and steams quietly into the night,
pulsating in an obscene parody of life.
The most interesting thing to happen at the show was when this guy
asked me if I wanted a blowjob from his slave while he watched.
The real kicker was not being allowed to go to the bathroom after they
finished playing 'cause the morons that run that horrible club were
ushering us out to make room for the midnight hip hop dance party.
Seems that if security had to work into the next hour, they entire
staff was going to have to get paid for it, hence the supervisors were
trying to get people out before the hour.
vijay "no more stabbing westward for me" gill
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The Supernaut
Vijay Gill (wr...@topdog.cs.umbc.edu) wrote:
:<snip>
:
: 2) Silly boys on the floor who seem to have mistakenly thought it
: was a Biohazard show?
:
: That was actually the most amusing part of the show.
: Stabbing Westward put on a GREAT show, though, and that more than made up
: for it.
:
: Really, I thought they basically blew chunks of raw fetid vomit, the
: sort that lies on a sidewalk and steams quietly into the night,
: pulsating in an obscene parody of life.
Hmm...they played several songs from the 1st album...that was cool.
But you're entitled to your opinion.
: The most interesting thing to happen at the show was when this guy
: asked me if I wanted a blowjob from his slave while he watched.
Yowza.
:<snip>
: ushering us out to make room for the midnight hip hop dance party.
:
: Seems that if security had to work into the next hour, they entire
: staff was going to have to get paid for it, hence the supervisors were
: trying to get people out before the hour.
Perhaps, but do ya really think they'd dismiss security for
(of all things) a hip hop night?
Mike
Joe Kolodz
Sinsation was recently released to the US on Nothing records...is
it worth the buy? Heard it was pretty hard shit.
-stark- [cyber as i wanna be]
In article <556sm9$l...@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>,
scri...@ix.netcom.com(Joe Kolodz) wrote:
>
> I heard SMG is already done with another album. Is it me or does it
>seem coincidental that when Chris Randell got married after "The
>Torture Technique" and Chris Kelly left the band they really sucked on
>BURN. Granted the hidden track before the first song and Hole in the
>Ground are bad ass songs (even though Hole in the Ground was originally
>written by Die Warzau) the rest just sucks. I've had it since the day
>it came out and I still hate it. I've seen them live so many fucking
>times and even their recent shows blew (with the exception of maybe
>one) I hope this next album is more in the direction completely
>opposite of their last. Maybe he'll kill his wife or somthing?
so i was perusing rec.music.industrial, as always, to gather opinions of certain
posters regarding bands i have heard of but yet to hear (this is how i make a
decision whether or not to try out something i've never heard yet...if i like
the last three someone talked about, odds are i'll like the 4th, but i digress)
and what did i see?
the idiotic ramblings of this fucking waste of genetics.
look "joe"...i could honestly give a fuck if you like crandall's music. you
think burn is weak, i think it's his most mature offering to date. what. ever.
but to be so fucking crass as to wish death upon his wife? to somehow lay the
blame for what you see as a weak album on her shoulders? even in a joking
manner, you are an idiot, sir, and were *I* driving the bus, i'd ask you to exit
so that i might crush your ponderous fucking head under the 42 inch tires.
oh, and if you think that the live shows have sucked, please elaborate. was it
the energy you hated? perhaps the elements of theater, like lights? could it
be that it was just too entertaining for you to handle? or is it pure and
simple envy that *YOU* aren't up on that stage, looking like a rock star, with
smoke & lights and a bad-ass band?
elaboration is our friend, mr. rocket scientist. you've stated your position,
now lets see you toss some facts out behind it...
no, i said facts, that was another piece of your ever-dwindling intellect...
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dbk
>no, i said facts, that was another piece of your ever-dwindling intellect...
Hahah, I would have *loved* to quote this entire message and then given my
undying support, but it was quite long [although excellent].
Really though, I can understand dislike of Burn... ya gotta have some funk to
enjoy it! But, the live shows? They are mostly guitar and it sounds like that
would have been right up the first guy's alley. From what I hear, TT has
plenty of guitar and this guy liked it. I enjoyed the shows in Champaign, Il
very much. You get in for 5bux, you stand 4 feet away from the band, and the
crowd was nifty at the High Octane Tour show.
Chris Randall is a bad ass, although his new "Playgirl" haircut sucks, in my
opinion. Oh where is the CR of SofF days ;) ?
For anyone's info, you can listen to a chunk of the upcoming cd on some SMG
web page...
Oh ya, CR: If you are reading this, I'm the idiot who forgot to say what
style zippo I wanted in my order, but sadly, I don't have enough money any more
to reorder ;( Maybe after Christmas...
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Joe Kolodz (scri...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
// Torture Technique" and Chris Kelly left the band they really sucked on
Hahahaha... oh, fuck, you just made me snort my morning coffee.. thanks
a lot.
// BURN. Granted the hidden track before the first song and Hole in the
Man, I can hear the laughing from here...
// opposite of their last. Maybe he'll kill his wife or somthing?
Might I suggest that you grow up a bit, and then sell all of your SMG
albums, because frankly, I wouldn't care to be associated with you.
--Mark
say...@ohsu.edu
> Really though, I can understand dislike of Burn... ya gotta have some funk to
>enjoy it! But, the live shows? They are mostly guitar and it sounds like that
>would have been right up the first guy's alley. From what I hear, TT has
>plenty of guitar and this guy liked it. I enjoyed the shows in Champaign, Il
>very much. You get in for 5bux, you stand 4 feet away from the band, and the
>crowd was nifty at the High Octane Tour show.
I would have to agree. Despite the shitty venue that SMG played at in
Portland, the show great. I wasn't very impressed with "Burn" when I
first heard it (although it has grown on me) and I expected the live show to
have an equally slow, funky vibe. I was pleasantly surprised by just how much
their live show rocked . I think it was the best I've ever seen them (I'd
seen them twice before).
David
Icon00 Aggression
it
>>seem coincidental that when Chris Randell got married after "The
originally
>>written by Die Warzau) the rest just sucks. I've had it since the day
>>it came out and I still hate it. I've seen them live so many fucking
>>times and even their recent shows blew (with the exception of maybe
>>one) I hope this next album is more in the direction completely
I'm putting up the reward money for the first person to wack the fucking
idiot kid who wrote this...jesus, how sad is rmi?
F.
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Joe Kolodz
Wow. You people are really stupid. You know nothing and don't
deserve to give an opinion unless I beat it out of your pathetic
fucking body.
Ok. That was just to remind you of how annoying and ignorant your
responses to the post were. Now, back to reality...
FACT 1: BURN sucks...compared to the previous two SMG albums...IN MY
OPINION. I like funk, but Chris Randall seems to be faking the funk.
Die Warzau knows how to incorporate funk into their music. SMG
doesn't. They were much better off sticking to the musical styles of
Sins of The Flesh and Torture Technique...either one would be better
than this.
If some other band had come out with BURN, it would've been OK. I
wouldn't have liked it, but I wouldn't have cared. But SMG has given
us "Nothing"...and it's depressing that that kind of song has been
replaced by "I Don't Believe." In the first two albums, the sound
changed, but it was a forward progression of the industrial sound.
BURN is more of a sideways progression to radio airplay.
FACT 2: The live shows now also SUCK. Before, he did have great
energy and gave off the impression of musical integrity in his
performance. Now, having seen the show a few more times, I just see
Chris Randall, trying to jump off a drum set like he's a fucking member
of KISS or something and looking really stooopid while he does it.
Plus, the vocals are less powerful and aggressive. The lightshow
doesn't make up for the lack of musical performance.
Chemlab played on the same stage as their opening act the latest
time I went to see SMG (and were the only reason I went). Their act
was full of the energy I wish SMG would demonstrate.
FACT 3: How can you trip about a joke made about his wife? What does
it matter...obviously, my magical powers aren't going to make her die
when I write something stupid, so you don't need to worry.
Vijay Gill
In article <556fuf$8...@news4.digex.net> supr...@universe.digex.net
(The Supernaut) writes:
From: supr...@universe.digex.net (The Supernaut)
: ushering us out to make room for the midnight hip hop dance party.
:
: Seems that if security had to work into the next hour, they entire
: staff was going to have to get paid for it, hence the supervisors were
: trying to get people out before the hour.
Perhaps, but do ya really think they'd dismiss security for
(of all things) a hip hop night?
The timeline was that the band did an encore, which they (the security
managers) had not counted in and if they didn't get them out before
the hour turned, the entire security staff would have to be paid into
the next hour.
I don't know about any hip hop party.
vijay "fuck stabbing westward and the fucking horse they rode in on"
AldenKeith
Kill his wife?!?!? lisa?? No!!!!!!!! ( Don't tell her, she might be liable
to hunt you down, Joe Kolodz)
--------->Harbour
AldenKeith
I'll put in a few bucks for that, FJ! But I think Lisa might be able to do
a better job at that then anyone...
------------------>Harbour
kei...@jmu.edu
Alden...@AOL.com
Thin White Duke
Just my $.02:
SMG's music is fine, nothing brilliant, but I can tolerate it... Wishing
harm to the band members or their wives is stupid (save that for Marilyn
Manson!)... but the SMG live show SUCKS! I saw them last spring at Coney
Island High with Gravity Kills opening. And you know something: Gravity
Kills was better.
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say...@ohsu.edu
Well, I also saw Chemlab open for SMG, and I thought that their set was rather
pathetic. The vocals in particular were shit. Oh well, opinions differ.
Also, as dissapointed as I was with "Burn", I think that it's safe to say that
it was better than "Sins of the Flesh" who's only decent song was the title
track. I miss the style of "The Torture Technique" and hope that Chris tries
to incorporate it into future material. As to your opinion on Die Warzau, at
least now I know not to trust your opinion on music.
David
>FACT 1: BURN sucks...compared to the previous two SMG albums...IN MY
>OPINION. I like funk, but Chris Randall seems to be faking the funk.
>Die Warzau knows how to incorporate funk into their music. SMG
>doesn't. They were much better off sticking to the musical styles of
>Sins of The Flesh and Torture Technique...either one would be better
>than this.
> Chemlab played on the same stage as their opening act the latest
Smutty
Joe Kolodz wrote:
>
> I heard SMG is already done with another album. Is it me or does it
> seem coincidental that when Chris Randell got married after "The
> Torture Technique" and Chris Kelly left the band they really sucked on
> BURN. Granted the hidden track before the first song and Hole in the
> Ground are bad ass songs (even though Hole in the Ground was originally
> written by Die Warzau) the rest just sucks. I've had it since the day
> it came out and I still hate it. I've seen them live so many fucking
> times and even their recent shows blew (with the exception of maybe
> one) I hope this next album is more in the direction completely
> opposite of their last. Maybe he'll kill his wife or somthing?
So, just how bad do you want to piss a guy off? Suggesting that he
kill his wife goes a bit far!
And you don't point out a single reason that you didn't like the latest
SMG stuff. If you don't like it, fine. But be intelligent about it. Why
don't you like it.
You must be a newbie to RMI, or did you not know that Chris Randall
reads
and posts here often. I look forward to his response to your babble.
Laters...
Smutty
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Sickman
Some guitar, but not overpowering. About an equal mix of electronics,
guitar, and orchestated sound. Very impressive. If your expecting
anything KMFDMish, you'll be disapointed. Somebody on here posted that
it sounded like a followup to NIHIL. I couldn't disagree more. Sounds
a little bit like Foetus, but only a little. Definitely worth a listen.
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dbk
> Sinsation was recently released to the US on Nothing records...is
>it worth the buy? Heard it was pretty hard shit.
I would like to know about this cd as well... so if only one request isn't
enough to get a response, hows about two?
Dynamism Son
In article <556sp2$9...@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>,
Joe Kolodz <scri...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> Sinsation was recently released to the US on Nothing records...is
>it worth the buy? Heard it was pretty hard shit.
Definitely worth the buy. Quite possibly the best industrial album I've
heard all year.
Now... does anybody have any info on a US release of "Wrecked"? I can't
even find it at the import places....
--Andy
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Margret Chatwin
In article <557tam$o...@taco.cc.ncsu.edu>, dasi...@unity.ncsu.edu (Dynamism
Son) wrote:
>Now... does anybody have any info on a US release of "Wrecked"? I can't
>even find it at the import places....
It's coming. Should be released on US Interscope sometime in January. A
few things I've read have alluded to the possibility that the backcatalogue
might also be reissued sometime in the future, but I've yet to hear
anything explicit about that...
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downfall
On 30 Oct 1996, Joe Kolodz wrote:
> Sinsation was recently released to the US on Nothing records...is
> it worth the buy? Heard it was pretty hard shit.
it's an amazing album. . .worth buying. . .if you don't buy it, well,
bad things will happen. . .let's leave it at that.
-downfall
"the man has no sense of reality at all" - george dracoulias
downfall
On 30 Oct 1996, Joe Kolodz wrote:
>
> I heard SMG is already done with another album.
i thought it was just an ep. . .
> burn. . .Granted the hidden track before the first song and Hole in the
> Ground are bad ass songs (even though Hole in the Ground was originally
> written by Die Warzau) the rest just sucks.
just opinion. . .nothing sucks. . .only you think it does. . .i like it. .
.think it's great. . .use it as bgm for sex. . .you'll like ti more.
> Maybe he'll kill his wife or somthing?
lol!
Mark Beeson
Joe Kolodz (scri...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
// Ok. That was just to remind you of how annoying and ignorant your
// responses to the post were. Now, back to reality...
You were the one to post that "SMG turned to shit after Chris Kelly
left the band and Chris Randall got married", sir, not I. Who is the
ignorant one here?
// FACT 3: How can you trip about a joke made about his wife? What does
Taken in the context with which you wrote the "joke", I hardly think
it's funny or appropriate. Like I said -- grow up a little.
--Mark
LOgre2'3 (Killin' shrimp with a crowbar.. in a barbed wire canoe..)
dbk (kil...@uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Guitar/No Guitar?
Guitar, but good usage of it. i.e. It ain't no 16 Volt album.
--
LOgre
say...@ohsu.edu
>>it's an amazing album. . .worth buying. . .if you don't buy it, well,
>>bad things will happen. . .let's leave it at that.
> Guitar/No Guitar?
There is guitar, but it doesn't really dominate the mix.
David
Chris Christian
In article <5583qp$1...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> kil...@uiuc.edu (dbk) writes:
>> Sinsation was recently released to the US on Nothing records...is
>>it worth the buy? Heard it was pretty hard shit.
>
>enough to get a response, hows about two?
Pig: Sinsation
1.Sinsation
2.Serial Killer Thriller
3.Hamstringing on the Highway
4.Golgotha
5.The Sick
6.Painiac (Nothing Touchs Me)
7.Shell
8.Analgeria
9.Volcano
10.Hot Hole
11.Transceration
Originally released at approximately the same time as the KMFDM album "Nihil"
on which Raymond performed guest vocals, "Sinsation" is a domestic reissue that
was previously only available as an import from Japan. The first half of the
album contains the most guitar oriented Pig tracks I've had the experience of
listening too and lays the groundwork for perhaps the most musically diverse
Pig album to date. The last half of the album contains mostly long drawn out
orchestral arrangements much in the same vein as Steroids Maximus, albeit
without the aid of Jim Thirlwell. One might be also quick to point out that
this album is the most commercially acceptable Pig release as well which might
be why Nothing Records choose to reissue it first before the remainder of the
Pig import catalog. However, I would not stop Raymonds Watts short and label
him a sell out just because his record label choose this album as his first
work on their label. Raymond has always been a compositional genius, thanks in
part to his early work with the likes of Thirlwell and Sascha of course.
"Sinsation" only serves to attract a larger audience who might have never had a
chance to enjoy a Pig release. Thereby luring them to purchase some of his
older, more 'experimental' albums when they too, are reissued.
Jester
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BondGirl
If Lisa doesn't clock you I will.
Joe Kolodz
Alright, first off I apologize for the joke, it may have been
uncalled for. Second if there is any need for hate mail send to
kolo...@pilot.msu.edu. The one posting is not Joe, it is Chris his
brother and a friend. Thank you.
BondGirl
buy or die.
Aak
>SMG's music is fine, nothing brilliant, but I can tolerate it... Wishing
>harm to the band members or their wives is stupid (save that for Marilyn
>Manson!)... but the SMG live show SUCKS! I saw them last spring at Coney
>Island High with Gravity Kills opening. And you know something: Gravity
>Kills was better.
don't really like them they were better than SMG. They had energy and
everything. Still, though, I like the recorded SMG, just not live.
Love and Peace
Aak
LOgre2'3 (Killin' shrimp with a crowbar.. in a barbed wire canoe..)
Joe Kolodz (scri...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Maybe he'll kill his wife or somthing?
Kill Lisa? No way! She's the best part of the band!
--
LOgre
Joe Kolodz
Alright I'll try to relax here, its just that Torture Technique is
one of my favorite albums, it has such raw aggression and is very
individualistic compared to other sounds by other groups. Its fine if
Burn is an album that he wanted to do. It just disappointed me at first
because it seemed to be more commercial on purpose. (Just my
impression).
My joke was tasteless but my point was that Burn, as someone said
before, is an album to have sex with your girlfriend to. Definately
differant than his previous two albums. If anyone out there is throwing
in Krackhead just before you jump on your girlfriend, I give you
respect. It was just music to go crazy. I give him all the
respect...drove five hours a year ago in a blizzard to see them, and
was extremely dissappionted, it is a subject that still runs my
emotions, the trip was a nightmare. Still went to two shows after that
which were alot better. Chris Randell has talent, and I don't think
any album yet has lived up to his true potential, Funk + Hardcore
Aggression ?
chris
decibel
In article <55879a$8...@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, scri...@ix.netcom.co
says...
>
>
> Wow. You people are really stupid. You know nothing and don't
>deserve to give an opinion unless I beat it out of your pathetic
>fucking body.
Sure is easy to make threats over the net huh? I'd be willing to bet you are
a nerdy little scrawny pasty faced goth girl geek with fishnets on your arms.
Come to a SMG show, talk all your shit IN PERSON, and I'm sure Ms. Randall
would love to kick your ass herself.
Happy Halloween loser
tom
decibel
Mark Beeson
Joe Kolodz (scri...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
// Alright I'll try to relax here, its just that Torture Technique is
// one of my favorite albums, it has such raw aggression and is very
How did I guess?
--Mark
Dinsdale Piranha
Pierre Bazinet
Joe Kolodz (scri...@ix.netcom.com) writes:
> BURN. Granted the hidden track before the first song and Hole in the
Alright I've had it! Please explain this hidden track to me. How the fuck
can you get before the 1st song? Track 0? Call me retarded but I can't
figure this out for the life of me. Not a flame, I really can't find it. I
know there's an instrumental at the end of the cd that isn't listed, but
it can't be that, 'cause it's at the end and not the beginning and there's
nothing special about this track, it's only seconds long.
Help.
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dbk
>Manson!)... but the SMG live show SUCKS! I saw them last spring at Coney
>Island High with Gravity Kills opening. And you know something: Gravity
>Kills was better.
Oh lord! One major beef I have with GK is that the live show in which they
opened for SMG totally blew. They didn't play a damn thing live, especially
that keyboard. Jumping up and down on that thing might create energy, but it
isn't very condusive to playing a damn thing. On the other hand, SMG kicked
booty.
Adam Watkin
dbk (kil...@uiuc.edu) wrote:
: > Sinsation was recently released to the US on Nothing records...is
: >it worth the buy? Heard it was pretty hard shit.
: I would like to know about this cd as well... so if only one request isn't
: enough to get a response, hows about two?
I like Praise the Lard a bit more than Sinsation but it is pretty
good stuff.. if you liked the KMFDM vs PIG EP you'd probably like it.
Track 2 is my favourite on it.
Adam.
dbk
>Alright I've had it! Please explain this hidden track to me. How the fuck
>can you get before the 1st song? Track 0? Call me retarded but I can't
>figure this out for the life of me. Not a flame, I really can't find it. I
>know there's an instrumental at the end of the cd that isn't listed, but
>it can't be that, 'cause it's at the end and not the beginning and there's
>nothing special about this track, it's only seconds long.
For me to get to it, I stick Burn into a cd player and then *rewind* back
before the first track. You've seen some negative second tracks in between
songs? Well, this one is just a *big* ass negative track. Supposedly, it's a
different negative on different players. I don't know about that, but mine
goes about 5min something... been awhile. My little story about the song is
that I saw them live and they played it and I didn't recognise it. Got home,
read rmi, saw the posting, checked it out, recognized the song, and thought,
"Cool." Ahwell, I like SMG and I like their live show. Maybe it isn't the
greatest to the people lucky enough to have seen SP or DL, but it is always an
inexpensive *good* time.
David Langford
Joe Kolodz (scri...@ix.netcom.com) writes:
> BURN. Granted the hidden track before the first song and Hole in the
Alright I've had it! Please explain this hidden track to me. How the fuck
can you get before the 1st song? Track 0? Call me retarded but I can't
figure this out for the life of me. Not a flame, I really can't find it. I
know there's an instrumental at the end of the cd that isn't listed, but
it can't be that, 'cause it's at the end and not the beginning and there's
nothing special about this track, it's only seconds long.
Help.
VSVN ARAB
mayn...@execpc.com (Maynard) wrote:
>AGREED!
>They suck live and use way to many conventional traditional geetars
>for my taste.
>The future is not industrial, the future is electro!
and by that you are implying that industrial music must have guitars
in it. and that's wrong. industrial has nothing to do with whether or
not someone uses guitar. sheesh, this what happens because of bands
like GLU and Gravity Kills.
and while we're at it, let me tell you that the future isn't going to
be industrial _or_ electro, but music that goes beyond any strict
genres. because if you haven't already figured it out, electro is dead
too. Haujobb (one of the very few good electro bands around), for
example, is not so easily classified.
and if you want to hear some good guitar industrial that makes most
electro look silly, pick up the new Godflesh.
VSVN ARAB
Jason Haas
In article <55be61$3...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
as...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Pierre Bazinet) wrote:
>
>Alright I've had it! Please explain this hidden track to me. How the fuck
>can you get before the 1st song?
this won't work in most CD-ROM drives, so find a CD player with a reverse
button, and hold it down. to about -5:00.
'nuff said.
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Jason Haas
The Onion, Madison's local satirical newspaper and font of knowledge,
trashed both Pig's latest and Golden Palomino's latest.
Buy them both. It's a sign. ;)
Joe Kolodz
>Sure is easy to make threats over the net huh? I'd be willing to bet
you are
>a nerdy little scrawny pasty faced goth girl geek with fishnets on
your arms.
>Come to a SMG show, talk all your shit IN PERSON, and I'm sure Ms.
Randall
>would love to kick your ass herself.
>Happy Halloween loser
>
>tom
>decibel
>
Maybe you should try to get a job covering politics or something;
you seem to have two talents: 1) taking things out of context, and 2).
making yourself like an ass-brained idiot as you do it. The part of
the message that you qouted was a sarcastic comment in response to all
the messages from others which basically said, "WAAH! We don't like to
hear your differing opinion on our newsgroup! WAAAH! Go away! WAAH!
I'm gonna kick your ass!" The next line of the message, if your
limited powers of comprehension could let you get that far, said
something to the effect of: "the last line was to show you how stupid
YOUR messages seem."
Oh, sorry to disappoint you, but I don't wear any gay make-up or
fishnets or any of the other trapping of poser gothic nerds. And,
"little" and "scrawny," am I? Ha ha...I'm sure I'll see YOU in the gym
working out with me sometime soon, little buddy! Keep trying, though!
Jason Haas
someone said..
>Have to agree with that. Saw them in Tampa with GK and even though I
>don't really like them they were better than SMG. They had energy and
>everything. Still, though, I like the recorded SMG, just not live.
funny.
GK's "live" shows are recorded....
Thin White Duke
< Alright I've had it! Please explain this hidden track to me. How the fuck
< can you get before the 1st song? Track 0? Call me retarded but I can't
< figure this out for the life of me. Not a flame, I really can't find it. I
< know there's an instrumental at the end of the cd that isn't listed, but
< it can't be that, 'cause it's at the end and not the beginning and there's
< nothing special about this track, it's only seconds long.
<
< Help.
I don't have the CD, but I'm sure that what you have to do is start
playing it at track 1, and then use the reverse scan button (not the one
that changes tracks) to go to some time before 0:00 and let it play from
there. How do I know? Because the first time anyone put a hidden track
at the beginning of a CD was the David Bowie collector's item
RarestOneBowie.
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>
> Alright I've had it! Please explain this hidden track to me. How the fuck
> can you get before the 1st song? Track 0? Call me retarded but I can't
> figure this out for the life of me. Not a flame, I really can't find it. I
> know there's an instrumental at the end of the cd that isn't listed, but
> it can't be that, 'cause it's at the end and not the beginning and there's
> nothing special about this track, it's only seconds long.
>
I always used to think that that last little song stuck on the end was the
hidden track that was always refered to, until I found out that there was
the one hidden before everything else. How you're supposed to get to it is
as Red starts, when it's at 00:00, rewind for awhile, and you'll find it.
I've tried it, but my cd player isn't capable of rewinding. It's supposed
to be a really good cover of the Doors' Break On Through.
Hope I helped somewhat.
Louise
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VSVN ARAB
scri...@ix.netcom.com(Joe Kolodz) wrote:
>individualistic compared to other sounds by other groups. Its fine if
>Burn is an album that he wanted to do. It just disappointed me at first
>because it seemed to be more commercial on purpose. (Just my
>impression).
heheh, i heard a track from Burn on a college station a while ago
without knowing who it was and it sounded to me like a b-side to some
early eighties one hit wonder new wave act. i couldn't figure out why
the hell they were playing the shit. and then they said it was SMG.
needless to say, it didn't make a very good impression.
VSVN ARAB
Joe Kolodz
>
>I'm gonna get my ex, who's 'bout as tall as me, and has a similar
>disposition as Lisa, and my friend Farhat, who's not as tall as me,
but is
>about as big as two of me, and we're gonna do a little more than
clocking.
Oh, really?
>
>What the FUCK are you thinking, kid?
What the fuck are you thinking? Try to read the message next time.
You're asking for a beating, at
>least. Is it possible to trace the message path back to the origin? I
>think it is.. if it's within 500 miles of Madison, we're takin' a
little
>road trip..
>Lay off, kid. If you don't like SMG, that's fine; you threaten my
friends,
>you're asking for something else.
Uhm, quick question, oh quick-witted one ... when did anyone
threaten anybody else (except for the 20000 people who misintrepreted
the first message and then threatened to take "road trips" like little
high school bitches to beat my ass?)...
Just wondering...
stjarna
In article <55f5hf$f...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
co...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Louise Charlebois) wrote:
-> I've tried it, but my cd player isn't capable of rewinding. It's supposed
-> to be a really good cover of the Doors' Break On Through.
->
-> Hope I helped somewhat.
->
-> Louise
Actually, it's a cover of "Strange Days"... and a damn fine one at that.
-shannon, lacing up her boots for the other end of this thread...
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In article <55f5hf$f...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
Louise Charlebois <co...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
>I always used to think that that last little song stuck on the end was the
>hidden track that was always refered to, until I found out that there was
>the one hidden before everything else. How you're supposed to get to it is
>as Red starts, when it's at 00:00, rewind for awhile, and you'll find it.
>I've tried it, but my cd player isn't capable of rewinding. It's supposed
>to be a really good cover of the Doors' Break On Through.
It's actually a cover of the Doors' "Strange Days".
Are you sure your CD player can't rewind? I've never seen one that
couldn't, in some way or another... usually you can get them to rewind by
either
- hitting PAUSE and then the track skip back button, or
- holding down the track skip back button (this is how it works in most
portables)...
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okay,kids, there is a track on Burn that sounds like Die Warzau, becuse
they were in the studio at the same time. This is Chicago -- everyone
works on everyone else's records. Get real. -- it;s a way of life.
LOgre2'3 (Killin' shrimp with a crowbar.. in a barbed wire canoe..)
Joe Kolodz (scri...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: FACT 1: BURN sucks...compared to the previous two SMG albums...IN MY
: OPINION.
Read this sentence and then tell me you're *not* a moron.
C'mon.
Try me.
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np ministry 'work all day'
Dogmatique
> to be a really good cover of the Doors' Break On Through.
LR!
November 3, Chicago
In a bizarre accident yesterday, the wives of two not-so-prominent,
not-so-industrial musicians, Jen Sturgis (aka Madam Pain) and Lisa
Randall (aka Madam Machine Gun) were asphyxiated by paint fumes as the
two women attempted to Marta Stewartize the master lavatory of the
Randall's Chicago compound, headquarters to the band Sister Machine Gun.
Mrs. Sturgis was dragged to safety by Erlenmeyer Randall, the Randall's
youngest cat, and suffers no major injuries, though she may require a
tracheotomy, in which case she will do vocals on the next Pain Station
record. Mrs. Randall however was not so lucky. Her body was oddly
found in the kitchen, clutching a copy of Metropolis in one hand, and
her pasta machine in the other. In her memory her husband, Chris
Randall, who apparently was cooler when he didn't sell any records and
knew a guy named Chris Kelly, is changing the name of the newest SMG
record from Metropolis to MetropoLISA, and will rewrite the music to
accompany Lisa's favorite recipes.
Services for Mrs. Randall will take place this week, weather permitting.
As requested by her will, Mrs. Randall will be stuffed into a giant
ravioli and sent out to sea.
AldenKeith
Yes!!!! Yes!!!! Yes!!!!! Lisa, you kick so much ass!
---->Harbour
I'd like to see a Madam Machine Gun T-shirt on the next tour with an
Japanease looking cartoon of Lisa with a pasta shooter in a wacky comic
book pose. I'd buy one
Thin White Duke
ROTFLMAO!! You go, Lisa! That's the funniest thing I've read on usenet
in, like, forever, dude.
The recipe thing reminds me of my friends' punk band who took a recipe for
pressed chicken and used it as the lyrics to a song. Only they wanted to
make it a political song, so they called it (Op)pressed Chicken. :)
Fratboy
LOgre2'3 (Killin' shrimp with a crowbar.. in a barbed wire canoe..)
wrote:
you explained what the fuck you were talking about...does the avant
garde sentence structure turn you off?
CrmChease
LOL....excuse me I have to go to the hospital now, I've busted my gut
laughing : )
MARC42
In article <55b3qa$m...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>, scri...@ix.netcom.com(Joe Kolodz) wrote:
> My joke was tasteless but my point was that Burn, as someone said
>before, is an album to have sex with your girlfriend to.
No wonder you don't like it...you'll never have a chance to really use it.
;p
Marc
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In article <55f5hf$f...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, co...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Louise Charlebois) wrote:
>to be a really good cover of the Doors' Break On Through.
>
MARC42
In article <327D7B...@foto.infi.net>, Misty dawn <mis...@foto.infi.net> wrote:
>LR! wrote:
>>
>> November 3, Chicago
>>
>> In a bizarre accident yesterday, the wives of two not-so-prominent,
>> not-so-industrial musicians, Jen Sturgis (aka Madam Pain) and Lisa
>> Randall (aka Madam Machine Gun) were asphyxiated by paint fumes as the
>> two women attempted to Marta Stewartize the master lavatory of the
>> Randall's Chicago compound, headquarters to the band Sister Machine Gun.
>> Mrs. Sturgis was dragged to safety by Erlenmeyer Randall, the Randall's
>> youngest cat, and suffers no major injuries, though she may require a
>> tracheotomy, in which case she will do vocals on the next Pain Station
>> record. Mrs. Randall however was not so lucky. Her body was oddly
>> found in the kitchen, clutching a copy of Metropolis in one hand, and
>> her pasta machine in the other. In her memory her husband, Chris
>> Randall, who apparently was cooler when he didn't sell any records and
>> knew a guy named Chris Kelly, is changing the name of the newest SMG
>> record from Metropolis to MetropoLISA, and will rewrite the music to
>> accompany Lisa's favorite recipes.
>>
>> Services for Mrs. Randall will take place this week, weather permitting.
>> As requested by her will, Mrs. Randall will be stuffed into a giant
>> ravioli and sent out to sea.
>
>written I suppose, but a little nasty! ( Unless, as usual, I'm missing
>some big joke here!)
>
>Misty dawn
Seeing as how it was written by Lisa (wasn't it?) I'd say that you are. Reload
some old articles and look for an idiot named Joe Kolodoz- then you'll get it.
Edward Roth Finkler
From on high, Joe Kolodz <scri...@ix.netcom.com> speaketh:
> Alright, first off I apologize for the joke, it may have been
>uncalled for. Second if there is any need for hate mail send to
>kolo...@pilot.msu.edu. The one posting is not Joe, it is Chris his
>brother and a friend. Thank you.
Man... I mean... really... I don't even know what to say to this.
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Fratboy <Go...@luck.dork.com> wrote:
>LOgre2'3wrote:
>> Joe Kolodz (scri...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>> : FACT 1: BURN sucks...compared to the previous two SMG albums...IN MY
>> : OPINION.
>> Read this sentence and then tell me you're *not* a moron.
>> C'mon.
>> Try me.
> I'm not a moron. You are. So there. Ha ha. That was easy. Maybe if
>you explained what the fuck you were talking about...does the avant
>garde sentence structure turn you off?
no you stupid bastard.
perhaps it was the part where you (or whoever posted this drivel) said "FACT 1:"
followed by the words "IN MY OPINION"
now.
perhaps you aren't as stupid as you appear. perhaps you negleted to notice
either the word 'fact' or the phrase 'in my opinion' were in the same sentence,
contradicting the hell out of each other.
if so, i would suggest you try proofing posts.
do the rules of the english language turn *you* off?
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MARC42 (mar...@azaccess.com) writes:
> In article <55f5hf$f...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>, co...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Louise Charlebois) wrote:
>>It's supposed
>>to be a really good cover of the Doors' Break On Through.
>>
> ..but for some reason it sounds like Strange Days. ;)
>
I know, I know.. it's easy to sound like an idiot when I haven't actually
heard it. :) One of these days though...
errr.. thanks for correcting me. :)
Misty dawn
Jeff the Tic-Tac Man wrote:
>
> Misty dawn (mis...@foto.infi.net) wrote:
>
> > Can we say..." a post in REALLY bad taste?" Damn....it's cleverly
> > written I suppose, but a little nasty! ( Unless, as usual, I'm missing
> > some big joke here!)
> >
> > Misty dawn
>
> yourself if it is in bad taste ok?
>
> Jeff
> (who laughed his head off at the original post. Lisa, you rock!)
Shit...I should have kept my mouth shut, eh? But at least I had the
instinct to ask! Apologies all....but, I still it is a bad karmic thing
to write stuff like that...*shivers*....;>
Misty dawn
Edward Roth Finkler
From on high, Joe Kolodz <scri...@ix.netcom.com> speaketh:
> Oh, sorry to disappoint you, but I don't wear any gay make-up
Gay?
>or
>fishnets or any of the other trapping of poser gothic nerds. And,
>"little" and "scrawny," am I? Ha ha...I'm sure I'll see YOU in the gym
>working out with me sometime soon, little buddy! Keep trying, though!
Whatever, monkey-boy.
Misty dawn
LR! wrote:
>
> November 3, Chicago
>
> In a bizarre accident yesterday, the wives of two not-so-prominent,
> not-so-industrial musicians, Jen Sturgis (aka Madam Pain) and Lisa
> Randall (aka Madam Machine Gun) were asphyxiated by paint fumes as the
> two women attempted to Marta Stewartize the master lavatory of the
> Randall's Chicago compound, headquarters to the band Sister Machine Gun.
> Mrs. Sturgis was dragged to safety by Erlenmeyer Randall, the Randall's
> youngest cat, and suffers no major injuries, though she may require a
> tracheotomy, in which case she will do vocals on the next Pain Station
> record. Mrs. Randall however was not so lucky. Her body was oddly
> found in the kitchen, clutching a copy of Metropolis in one hand, and
> her pasta machine in the other. In her memory her husband, Chris
> Randall, who apparently was cooler when he didn't sell any records and
> knew a guy named Chris Kelly, is changing the name of the newest SMG
> record from Metropolis to MetropoLISA, and will rewrite the music to
> accompany Lisa's favorite recipes.
>
> Services for Mrs. Randall will take place this week, weather permitting.
> As requested by her will, Mrs. Randall will be stuffed into a giant
> ravioli and sent out to sea.
Can we say..." a post in REALLY bad taste?" Damn....it's cleverly
Edward Roth Finkler
From on high, Aak <gra...@earthlink.net> speaketh:
>Have to agree with that. Saw them in Tampa with GK and even though I
>don't really like them they were better than SMG. They had energy and
>everything. Still, though, I like the recorded SMG, just not live.
You were hearing the recorded GK, ya know... 9)
decibel
>You gotta problem with that, Tom? Huh? Come on, punk, polish up your
>rock-star tattoos and we'll see who's kicking ass then!
>
>Grr!
That IT GNAT!
@#&^$*! I'm getting all the decibel guys together WITH CHRIS AND LISA RANDALL
AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE A ROAD TRIP TO KICK YOUR LITTLE ASS!!!!
<g>
love,
tom
decibel
decibel
In article <55e2tn$9...@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com>, scri...@ix.netcom.co
says...
> Oh, sorry to disappoint you, but I don't wear any gay make-up or
>fishnets or any of the other trapping of poser gothic nerds.
Oh, GAY? Hmmm.
And,
>"little" and "scrawny," am I? Ha ha...I'm sure I'll see YOU in the gym
>working out with me sometime soon, little buddy! Keep trying, though!
Uh huh. I stand by what I said before.
Isn't this fun?
C-ko Linde
decibel <dec...@earth.execpc.com> wrote in article
<55olft$9...@newsops.execpc.com>...
> That IT GNAT!
> @#&^$*! I'm getting all the decibel guys together WITH CHRIS AND LISA
RANDALL
> AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE A ROAD TRIP TO KICK YOUR LITTLE ASS!!!!
Can I watch?
;)
C-ko
MARC42
In article <327D9A...@luck.dork.com>, Fratboy <Go...@luck.dork.com> wrote:
>LOgre2'3 (Killin' shrimp with a crowbar.. in a barbed wire canoe..)
>wrote:
>>
>> : FACT 1: BURN sucks...compared to the previous two SMG albums...IN MY
>> : OPINION.
>>
>> Read this sentence and then tell me you're *not* a moron.
>>
>> C'mon.
>>
>> Try me.
>>
>> LOgre
>> np ministry 'work all day'
>you explained what the fuck you were talking about...does the avant
>garde sentence structure turn you off?
For the s-l-o-w members of the group...
If it is "in your opinion", it can't be a fact. (Well, I guess it could be, if
your opinion is right. At any rate, you shouldn't qualify it with an "in my
opinion" if you want people to believe it's a fact.)
Really, I need to subscribe to the Michigan State U student newspaper. I bet
it's a real hoot with you as the copy editor.
Chris VanWyk
>
> In article <327D9A...@luck.dork.com>, Fratboy <Go...@luck.dork.com> wrote:
> >LOgre2'3 (Killin' shrimp with a crowbar.. in a barbed wire canoe..)
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> Joe Kolodz (scri...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> >> : FACT 1: BURN sucks...compared to the previous two SMG albums...IN MY
> >> : OPINION.
> >>
> >> Read this sentence and then tell me you're *not* a moron.
> >>
> >> C'mon.
> >>
> >> Try me.
> >>
> >> --
> >> LOgre
> >> np ministry 'work all day'
> > I'm not a moron. You are. So there. Ha ha. That was easy. Maybe if
> >you explained what the fuck you were talking about...does the avant
> >garde sentence structure turn you off?
>
> For the s-l-o-w members of the group...
>
> If it is "in your opinion", it can't be a fact. (Well, I guess it could be, if
> your opinion is right. At any rate, you shouldn't qualify it with an "in my
> opinion" if you want people to believe it's a fact.)
>
> Really, I need to subscribe to the Michigan State U student newspaper. I bet
> it's a real hoot with you as the copy editor.
>
I go to Michigan State. The student newspaper reads like it was written
by a 10-year-old.
A few years back, probably before Joe's time, there was an editorial
that read, "Madonna's _Sex_ book is a far cry from pornography, but damn
close to it."
Edward Roth Finkler
From on high, Fratboy <Go...@luck.dork.com> speaketh:
> I'm not a moron. You are. So there. Ha ha. That was easy. Maybe if
>you explained what the fuck you were talking about...does the avant
>garde sentence structure turn you off?
No, I think stating initially that something is a fact, and in the same
sentence stating that it is your opinion, is what turned Master Ogre off.
TRAVIS
This is, as all PIG's work, a phenominal album, I highly recommend it.
The actual track listing is:
Pig: Sinsation
.Serial Killer Thriller
.Hamstringing on the Highway
.Golgotha
.The Sick
.Painiac (Nothing Touchs Me)
.Shell
.Analgeria
.Volcano
.Hot Hole
.Transceration
>
The first half of the album contains the most guitar oriented Pig tracks I've had the experience of
> listening too and lays the groundwork for perhaps the most musically diverse
> Pig album to date. The last half of the album contains mostly long drawn out
> orchestral arrangements much in the same vein as Steroids Maximus, albeit
> without the aid of Jim Thirlwell. One might be also quick to point out that
> this album is the most commercially acceptable Pig release as well which might
> be why Nothing Records choose to reissue it first before the remainder of the
> Pig import catalog. However, I would not stop Raymonds Watts short and label
> him a sell out just because his record label choose this album as his first
> work on their label. Raymond has always been a compositional genius, thanks in
> part to his early work with the likes of Thirlwell and Sascha of course.
> "Sinsation" only serves to attract a larger audience who might have never had a
> chance to enjoy a Pig release. Thereby luring them to purchase some of his
> older, more 'experimental' albums when they too, are reissued.
AS far as the above statement goes, I have to put my own two senses in.... The album has three orchestral arrangements but they are
tracks three, seven, and ten and not drawn out at all (and I dont think they sound much like Steroid Maximus either). And actually
songs eight and nine are also guitar orientated tracks too. I feel that as far as PIG is concerned whether a track has guitar or
not is a wholey mute point as his work is geniusly created reguardless of which instruments are audible in the mix. I do agree that
it is his most commercial work to date but less commercial sounding than Nihil (my own opinion). I think NOthing released this
first because it is his lastest release and that's what he wanted going out first but it surely blows away everthing else on the
label. Of PIG's albums my personal favorite still is "Praise the Lard" which I think came out in '93 but was extremely hard to find
even then...it shows an enormous range of styles as does this album but to a lesser degree.
My personal favorite song is "The Sick" with some briliant use of distorted female backup vocals on the chorus, this is definitely
worth every cent, I cant get it out of the disc player.
VSVN ARAB
mar...@azaccess.com (MARC42) wrote:
>>> Joe Kolodz (scri...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>>> : FACT 1: BURN sucks...compared to the previous two SMG albums...IN MY
>>> : OPINION.
>>>
>If it is "in your opinion", it can't be a fact. (Well, I guess it could be, if
>your opinion is right. At any rate, you shouldn't qualify it with an "in my
>opinion" if you want people to believe it's a fact.)
>Really, I need to subscribe to the Michigan State U student newspaper. I bet
>it's a real hoot with you as the copy editor.
or you could possibly interpret this differently and say that it is a
fact that burn sucks in his opinion, in other words, it is a fact that
he has an opinion, and that opinion is that burn sucks. but to do that
i would have to give this loser the benefit of the doubt. and i simply
will not do that.
VSVN ARAB
Gnat
"C-ko BUTT!" <sel...@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
> decibel <dec...@earth.execpc.com> threatened my punk ass with:
> > That IT GNAT!
> > @#&^$*! I'm getting all the decibel guys together WITH CHRIS AND LISA
> RANDALL
> > AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE A ROAD TRIP TO KICK YOUR LITTLE ASS!!!!
>
> Can I watch?
Awdammit. Okay.
But only if Seibold gets to be on *my* team.
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In article <55lvju$1...@brahms.miracle.net>, jst...@micro-net.com (-stark-) wrote:
>Fratboy <Go...@luck.dork.com> wrote:
>>LOgre2'3wrote:
>>> : FACT 1: BURN sucks...compared to the previous two SMG albums...IN MY
>>> : OPINION.
>
>>> C'mon.
>>> Try me.
>
> if
>>you explained what the fuck you were talking about...does the avant
>>garde sentence structure turn you off?
>
>
>
>perhaps it was the part where you (or whoever posted this drivel) said "FACT
> 1:"
>followed by the words "IN MY OPINION"
>
>now.
>
>perhaps you aren't as stupid as you appear. perhaps you negleted to notice
>either the word 'fact' or the phrase 'in my opinion' were in the same sentence,
>
>contradicting the hell out of each other.
>
>if so, i would suggest you try proofing posts.
>
>do the rules of the english language turn *you* off?
>
Jason Haas
Look! The fuckhead can answer his own questions!
> Uhm, quick question, oh quick-witted one ... when did anyone
>threaten anybody else (except for the 20000 people who misintrepreted
>the first message and then threatened to take "road trips" like little
>high school bitches to beat my ass?)...
see the fuckhead, fritz.
see the fuckhead, engleborg.
see the fuckhead, fritz.
see the fuckhead, engleborg.
see the fuckhead get his ass kicked, fritz.
see the fuckhead get his ass kicked, engleborg.
kick, fritz, kick.
kick, engleborg, kick.
see the fuckhead.
we saw the fuckhead.
we saw the limping fuckhead.
we saw the dying, wounded fuckhead.
we saw the fuckhead.
we saw the fuckhead.
--
=- Jason Haas
=- jh...@madison-web.com -=- http://madison-web.com/ ź
Grey - Digital Target
TRAVIS (tra...@cfcla.com) wrote:
: I think NOthing released this first because it is his lastest release
: and that's what he wanted going out first but it surely blows away
: everthing else on the label. Of PIG's albums my personal favorite still
An interesting argument - but, since _Sinsation_ is not Raymond
Watts' most recent Pig release - it is false.
"Lastest" is a funny word though, i think i'll repeat it over and
over again. Ack, i'm laughing to hard.
Ok, the actual latest Pig album is: _Wrecked_ and was released in
Japan in August. It is phenomenal.
Oh, and there's a new Single/EP being released in Japan in
January of next year - i can't wait. Woo-hoo!
Well, let's hope that Trend Rezsnore actually does something
intelligent and rereleases the entire Pig back catalogue - some material
is far too difficult to find.
Here's hoping.
-Grey
Digital Target
gr...@netcom.com
Jason J. Tar
In article <greyE0o...@netcom.com>, gr...@netcom.com says...
> Oh, and there's a new Single/EP being released in Japan in
>January of next year - i can't wait. Woo-hoo!
Which will hopefully have the mixing finesse of Ken Ishii upon it! (Sorry
but I've been quite swallowed up in this whole IDM thing of late...)
>
> Well, let's hope that Trend Rezsnore actually does something
>intelligent and rereleases the entire Pig back catalogue - some material
>is far too difficult to find.
Well it's not much but Concrete is jumping on the new Pig arrousal and
re-releasing "Stroll in the Pork" this month. (You know, the Pig goes heavy
metal ep and covers none other than Alice Cooper.) So sayeth the recent
Ear/Rational records update!
...If only it was the Swining or Red Raw & Sore...
--
Jason J. Tar
peace hugs and unity
Vampire Rodents (+Ether Bunny & Dilate) page at:
http://pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason/VRodents.htm
-stark- [cyber as i wanna be]
>Hey man...he's the copy editor of his school newspaper so he MUST be right.
ohh good god no...
they let that moron proof other people's writings?
sheesh. no wonder no one gave a rats ass when people said "me? i edit the
school paper"...
and here i thought ot took at least a modicum of intelligence...
tOrchie
Grey - Digital Target wrote:
> Ok, the actual latest Pig album is: _Wrecked_ and was released in
> Japan in August. It is phenomenal.
>
> Oh, and there's a new Single/EP being released in Japan in
> January of next year - i can't wait. Woo-hoo!
>
> Well, let's hope that Trend Rezsnore actually does something
> intelligent and rereleases the entire Pig back catalogue - some material
> is far too difficult to find.
>
> Here's hoping.
Yes, I am desperate to find more Pig material. All I have so far is
_A Stroll in the Pork_ _(v KMFDM) Sin Sex & Salvation_ and the track
"Shit for Brains" off the Black Box comp. It is basically impossible
to find Pig in the U.S. these days.
decibel
In article <gnat-ya02318000...@news.doit.wisc.edu>,
gn...@yar.cs.wisc.edu says...
>
>"C-ko BUTT!" <sel...@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote:
>> decibel <dec...@earth.execpc.com> threatened my punk ass with:
>> > That IT GNAT!
>> > @#&^$*! I'm getting all the decibel guys together WITH CHRIS AND LISA
>> RANDALL
>> > AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE A ROAD TRIP TO KICK YOUR LITTLE ASS!!!!
>>
>> Can I watch?
>
>Awdammit. Okay.
>
>But only if Seibold gets to be on *my* team.
>
Whatever. He's really a scrawny jerk anyhow :> Haven't you been reading your
RMI FAQ? Seibold, Chris Randall, and that decibel guy are all
opinionated assholes. Not even to mention Chase.
tom
decibel
(attempting to drag everyone into the fray)
Nikki Gustas
On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, TRAVIS wrote:
> This is, as all PIG's work, a phenominal album, I highly recommend it.
>
My favorite album this year, bar none.
> > "Sinsation" only serves to attract a larger audience who might have never had a
> > chance to enjoy a Pig release. Thereby luring them to purchase some of his
> > older, more 'experimental' albums when they too, are reissued.
>
Is Nothing/Interscope doing anything at all to promote this album?
Because I haven't seen anything done about it. We play the shit out of it
on the DC/Baltimore scene, but I've been told that Pig is unusually
popular in this area.
> tracks three, seven, and ten and not drawn out at all (and I dont think
>they sound much like Steroid Maximus either). And actually
>
I don't think they sound much like Steroid Maximus. And I know track ten
comes in at under three minutes; I think track three does, too. Track ten
is beautiful, poignant and melancholy. All three instrumentals are very
evocative. They're also impressive because they show Watts' range as a
songwriter.
> songs eight and nine are also guitar orientated tracks too. I feel that as far as PIG is concerned whether a track has guitar or
>
Volcano and Hot Hole? You're absolutely right. I should note here that
my favorite track on the whole album is "Volcano". Maybe it's that
grinding beat; I'm not sure. But they're all quite good. Just wish I
could get hold of a lyric sheet.
> not is a wholey mute point as his work is geniusly created reguardless of which instruments are audible in the mix. I do agree that
> it is his most commercial work to date but less commercial sounding than Nihil (my own opinion). I think NOthing released this
>
Agreed. This is both the album that XTORT should have been and the album
that FOetus: Gash should have been (well, except for Slung; I couldn't
bear to give up Slung).
> label. Of PIG's albums my personal favorite still is "Praise the Lard"
>which I think came out in '93 but was extremely hard to find
>
It's before that; if you check the label I think you'll find it was
released around '90 or '91.
> even then...it shows an enormous range of styles as does this album but to
> a lesser degree.
>
I think Praise the Lard showed the broader range of styles. It
encompassed everything from dance-industrial to swing industrial to
ballads. It, too, is my favorite Pig album; it shows pure genius on the
man's part. Highly recommended (and damn near impossible to find). What
I'd *really* like to track down is "A Poke In The Eye With A Sharp Stick"
on CD.
> My personal favorite song is "The Sick" with some briliant use of distorted female backup vocals on the chorus, this is definitely
> worth every cent, I cant get it out of the disc player.
>
I've got it on heavy rotation, too. I take it out to play something else,
but within a few hours it finds its way back in.
- rednikki
BILLY HARRIGAN
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BILLY HARRIGAN (may...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
[quoted stuff from tom, gnat, etc, snipped]
// BILLY HARRIGAN
// THE TROLL KING
Here is your one warning, Billy. Do not troll in SMG threads.
--Mark
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Natira Hammerstrom
decibel <dec...@earth.execpc.com> wrote:
>gn...@yar.cs.wisc.edu says...
>>But only if Seibold gets to be on *my* team.
>
>Whatever. He's really a scrawny jerk anyhow :> Haven't you been reading your
>RMI FAQ? Seibold, Chris Randall, and that decibel guy are all
>opinionated assholes. Not even to mention Chase.
Opinionated? Would you rather see Kim X and me with a carton of Rocky
Road ice cream, all dressed in our PJs, gossipping about your collective
opinionated ass?
Hey, you're gunna come out and see me on Sunday, right Tom?
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Lucky Locke
On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 15:58:10 -0500 Nikki Gustas wrote in rec.music.industrial :
: ... What
: I'd *really* like to track down is "A Poke In The Eye With A Sharp Stick"
: on CD.
Oh, funny. I always wanted to exchange my CD with vinyl, but I'm not
crazy enough to buy the vinyl version in addition.
CU,
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decibel
In article <56gee2$h...@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, gn...@yar.cs.wisc.edu says...
>
>Opinionated? Would you rather see Kim X and me with a carton of Rocky
>Road ice cream, all dressed in our PJs, gossipping about your collective
>opinionated ass?
>
>Hey, you're gunna come out and see me on Sunday, right Tom?
hmmm. I guess :>
tOrchie
Jason J. Tar wrote:
> gr...@netcom.com says...
> > Well, let's hope that Trend Rezsnore actually does something
> >intelligent and rereleases the entire Pig back catalogue - some material
> >is far too difficult to find.
>
> Well it's not much but Concrete is jumping on the new Pig arrousal and
> re-releasing "Stroll in the Pork" this month. (You know, the Pig goes heavy
> metal ep and covers none other than Alice Cooper.) So sayeth the recent
> Ear/Rational records update!
>
> ...If only it was the Swining or Red Raw & Sore...
Damn it! That sucks. The only one I have is _A Stroll in the Pork_.
How obnoxious.
downfall
On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Nikki Gustas wrote:
> Is Nothing/Interscope doing anything at all to promote this album?
> Because I haven't seen anything done about it. We play the shit out of it
> on the DC/Baltimore scene, but I've been told that Pig is unusually
> popular in this area.
well. . .there are some things they're doing. . .they managed to get
posters and promo stuff around this area. . .hell, they even tried to get
mtv to play "painiac (nothing touches me)". . .too bad the almighty one
eyed dino-bot bailed.
-downfall
"the man has no sense of reality at all" - george dracoulias