Orb samples (was Re: Have the Orb used Floyd samples ?)
Saeed Jaffer
samples used in Orb music? I know I'd be interested in reading the list, but I
have no time to compile it. All I can contribute to this (which isn't much)
is that Shanice's "Lovin' you" is used in some song off the Ultraworld
disc(s). I think it's "Huge everlasting ..." Not very helpful I know --
somebody out there knows better.
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Mike J. Brown
>Continuing on this thread ... would anybody be willing to compile a list of
>samples used in Orb music?
I'm all for that, but there are so many...
>have no time to compile it. All I can contribute to this (which isn't much)
>is that Shanice's "Lovin' you" is used in some song off the Ultraworld
>disc(s). I think it's "Huge everlasting ..." Not very helpful I know --
>somebody out there knows better.
That's "Lovin' You" by Minnie Ripperton, not Shanice. Used in the track
"A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The
Ultraworld".
Other ones off the top of my head:
Jaeger & Evans (comedy duo) - The Hippie and The Redneck
sampled in its entirety in the live version of Towers of Dub (on the
video)
Rickie Lee Jones being interviewed by LeVar Burton on Reading Rainbow
chopped up all through Little Fluffy Clouds
Lots of BBC sound effects discs
and I think I can hear some beats from "Poison" by Bel Biv DeVoe in
Earth (Gaia).
Mike
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>Saeed Jaffer asks:
>>Continuing on this thread ... would anybody be willing to compile a list of
>>samples used in Orb music?
>
>I'm all for that, but there are so many...
>
>>have no time to compile it. All I can contribute to this (which isn't much)
>>is that Shanice's "Lovin' you" is used in some song off the Ultraworld
>>disc(s). I think it's "Huge everlasting ..." Not very helpful I know --
>>somebody out there knows better.
>
>That's "Lovin' You" by Minnie Ripperton, not Shanice. Used in the track
>"A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre Of The
>Ultraworld".
>
>Other ones off the top of my head:
>Jaeger & Evans (comedy duo) - The Hippie and The Redneck
> sampled in its entirety in the live version of Towers of Dub (on the
> video)
>Rickie Lee Jones being interviewed by LeVar Burton on Reading Rainbow
> chopped up all through Little Fluffy Clouds
>Lots of BBC sound effects discs
>
>and I think I can hear some beats from "Poison" by Bel Biv DeVoe in
>Earth (Gaia).
>
Don't know about BBV, however, the intro voiceover is strait out of Flash
Gordon and includes that eerie sample of the sound that Ming the Merciless'
ring makes when he uses it on somebody.
>Mike
>--
George
Mike DeMurga
>In article <1992Oct15.2...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mjb...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown) writes...
>>Saeed Jaffer asks:
>>
k>>and I think I can hear some beats from "Poison" by Bel Biv DeVoe in
>>Earth (Gaia).
>>
>
>Don't know about BBV, however, the intro voiceover is strait out of Flash
>Gordon and includes that eerie sample of the sound that Ming the Merciless'
>ring makes when he uses it on somebody.
The "and they shall plant vinyards" voice sounds A LOT like the guy on
Bill Laswell's "Upright Man (from Basslines)...Maybe a big Laswell/Material
fan not familiar with this Orb tune might be able to help out with this
one?
>
>>Mike
>>--
>
>George
--(a diffrent) Mike
David Manning
>The "and they shall plant vinyards" voice sounds A LOT like the guy on
>Bill Laswell's "Upright Man (from Basslines)...Maybe a big Laswell/Material
>fan not familiar with this Orb tune might be able to help out with this
>one?
Gee -- I always thought this was Leonard Nimoy. :-)
I'd certainly be willing to help out with any kind of sample list, but a *lot*
of this stuff is subliminal: I hear the song, go by groceries, am standing in
the frozen food section, and *kapow*, it hits me. "Oh, yeah."
Maybe we're trying to hard.
Dave
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Pete Ashdown
>>Continuing on this thread ... would anybody be willing to compile a list of
>>samples used in Orb music?
A friend was trying to convince me that the beginning of Little Fluffy Clouds
was ripped from a very early and rare Pink Floyd album. Does anyone know if
there is any truth behind this?
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>>Saeed Jaffer asks:
>>>Continuing on this thread ... would anybody be willing to compile a list of
>>>samples used in Orb music?
>A friend was trying to convince me that the beginning of Little Fluffy Clouds
>was ripped from a very early and rare Pink Floyd album. Does anyone know if
>there is any truth behind this?
Which specific part of the beginning? The rooster? I don't think so.
Have some early rare Pink Floyd and would be willing to go spelunking
for it if you can indicate which part you're talking about.
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Quentin Crisp going on about "a coagulation of teenagers needed to make
up one unit of vital force, which once formed will only live on
sedatives, consume itself on the terraces of football stadia and die"
Or something to that effect. It's very quiet & in the background so
listen close! Don't know where the original sample came from but it's on
the Pillows & Prayers compliation which came out eons ago (well early
80's)
It's a great little monologue but why it's on Blue Room among all the NASA
samples beats me! Any ideas?
Ye Archiviste
Tom M Moravansky
The Quentin Crisp sample ("a coagulation of teenagers...") appeared
on the 'Miniatures' compiliation. I believe Matthew Fischer
(Procol Harum) compiled a bunch of short tracks, many done expressly
for the lp. All pieces were supposed to be under a minute or a minute
and a half. (It's been a while since I looked at the lp).
Mike DeMurga
The harmonica at the start of Little Fluffy Clouds from "Adventures..."
comes from Ennio Morricone's soundtrack to "Once upon a time in the
West"...a really nice record and film (Charles Bronson is the character
playing the harmonica in the film).
--Mike
Pete Ashdown
>At the very end of the 40 minute "Blue Room," and also sprinkled midway
>through it, is Marilyn Monroe's performance of "Happy Birthday to You."
>I predict legal action.
Uh huh. This late in the game? Who is going to sue? Marilyn? Marilyn's
estate? How about the people who wrote "Happy Birthday"? The single has been
out for about six months.
Mike J. Brown
on Duran Duran's "Yo Bad Azizi", one of the b-sides to Violence Of Summer.
No action was taken that I know of.
Lazlo Nibble
>> At the very end of the 40 minute "Blue Room," and also sprinkled midway
>> through it, is Marilyn Monroe's performance of "Happy Birthday to You."
>>
>> I predict legal action.
>
> Uh huh. This late in the game?
There's no statute of limitations on copyright violation, and the "Happy
Birthday" people are almost as rabid as Disney when it comes to protecting
their rights to that stupid little song. (I'm not kidding.) If Alex and
company didn't get permission to use the clip, I bet you a dollar that
they get called on it if the "HB" people ever find out.
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"Miracles will happen as we dream"
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>From: pash...@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
>Subject: Re: Orb samples
>Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 22:53:18 GMT>>At the very end of the 40 minute "Blue Room," and also [...I need not use
the rest of it] ^^^^^^^^^
The song is actually 39 minutes 59 seconds long. This was done to comply
with British regulations about a single in order to be granted release must
not be, or be over 40 minutes long.
Infoforyouall
MacCall
"So strange to see you at this time of night................."
David Brady
writes:
>There's no statute of limitations on copyright violation, and the "Happy
>Birthday" people are almost as rabid as Disney when it comes to
protecting
>their rights to that stupid little song. (I'm not kidding.) If Alex and
>company didn't get permission to use the clip, I bet you a dollar that
>they get called on it if the "HB" people ever find out.
Are you kidding? If not, can you expand on this? I just didn't see
enough smileys!
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Lazlo Nibble
>> ...the "Happy Birthday" people are almost as rabid as Disney when it
>> comes to protecting their rights to that stupid little song. (I'm not
>> kidding.)
>
> Are you kidding?
No, I'm not kidding. "Happy Birthday" is a copyrighted song (or more
specifically, sung to the tune of a copyrighted song: "Good Morning To
You"), and the people who own the rights to the music have been known to
sue people who perform it in public without getting permission. Naturally
they don't bring down a lawsuit on the head of every little kid who gets
it sung at his birthday party, but if you use it in a movie or TV show
you'd damn well better be prepared to pay for the right to do so.
--
Lazlo (la...@triton.unm.edu)
Pete Ashdown
>There's no statute of limitations on copyright violation, and the "Happy
>Birthday" people are almost as rabid as Disney when it comes to protecting
>their rights to that stupid little song. (I'm not kidding.) If Alex and
>company didn't get permission to use the clip, I bet you a dollar that
>they get called on it if the "HB" people ever find out.
You've got to be joking. Who owns the rights to "Happy Birthday"? Where do I
need to send my money every January 11th (take note, gift givers!)?
Robert Dawson
have heard that they are. and does anyone else find it difficult to find
their stuff. i have been checking the local shops on and off for the last
three weeks and cant find anything new or used.
--temted
Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)
>
>You've got to be joking. Who owns the rights to "Happy Birthday"? Where do I
>need to send my money every January 11th (take note, gift givers!)?
Yeah! And where do I send my money, come March 30th?
Brian
p.s. - I want my very own unique Orb sample for MY birthday....
Elaine Geraghty
Mike J. Brown
>i think it is insultive to suggest that the orb is at all related to klf
Alright, I left the last one alone, but I've GOT to put a stop to this.
The Orb started in 1988 as an experimental collaboration between Jimmy
Cauty and Alex Paterson. They produced an album together which was never
released but did manage to get a single out: A huge ever growing pulsating
brain that rules from the centre of the ultraworld. A different mix of
this was also played on the John Peel Show on Radio One in England.
They split over creative differences -- apparently Jimmy had an "I'm the
artist, you're just the dj" attitude -- and took their respective material
when they went their individual ways. Although he isn't credited, Alex
did jam during the "ambiathon" with the KLF one night, and the KLF's
Chill Out album is pieced together from that session. Jimmy released an
ultra-ambient album called Space. Alex retained name The Orb for himself,
and ended up hooking up with Thrash. All of the Orb's releases after
A huge ever growing blah blah blah are the Alex-Thrash combination, or
Alex-person"B" where person"B" is any one or two of a dozen other ambient
heads like Steve Hillage, Youth, Thomas Fehlmann, etc.
Oh yeah, there was another single, promo-only, released by the Alex-Jimmy
Orb. It is known as "the Kiss EP" and is kind of dancey, not ambient.
The KLF= Jimmy Cauty & Bill Drummond
aka The Timelords, aka The JAMs.
They've done bad Scottish rap with blatant sampling as the JAMs
Techno as the JAMs for one track (It's Grim Up North)
Novelty house as the Timelords (Doctorin' the Tardis)
Acid house as the KLF (pre-White Room Pure Trance singles)
Ambient house as the KLF (Chill Out, several remixes of their pre-White
Room dance tracks, remixes they did for others)
Cheezy dance pop as the KLF (White Room and associated singles)
The White Room is almost all re-re-re-re-remixed versions of their older
material.
The Orb IS related to the KLF -- their members started ambient house
as we know it today.
Check out Lazlo's discography at cs.uwp.edu for tons more info.
Matthew Chalmers
> i think it is insultive to suggest that the orb is at all related to klf
Umm... Jimmy Cauty of the KLF preceded Thrash as Alex Paterson's sidekick in the Orb.
Related? Practically incestuous...
--Matthew
tiff...@urvax.urich.edu
A great group out of England. Cool music, kind of ambiant but with a house
beat. In addition to their own albums, they produce all kinds of remixes.
>are they in any way related to the KLF? i have heard that they are.
Yes, KLF Comunuications produced them (or something like that). Basically,
they know they guys in KLF who got them their record contract.
>and does anyone else find it difficult to find
>their stuff. i have been checking the local shops on and off for the last
>three weeks and cant find anything new or used.
No, I've never had a problem finding any of their stuff. Actually, I'm about
to go buy their lastest album...
later days and sunny rays,
D.T>
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with Dr Alex Patterson, but he (Cauty) went off and became extremely
successful with the KLF. The Orb are now Alex and Thrash.
Cheers
Chris
Cardiff
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Elaine Geraghty
if they are related to the klf i assume it to be music wise whereas
i feel they are not