WORST INDUSTRIAL BAND?
Johnson
SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
Nathaniel D. Daw
Steven Palmer <palm...@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu> wrote:
>In article <36dbed$s...@noc.usfca.edu>, Johnson <john...@ac.usfca.edu> wrote:
>>
>>SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE?
>
>Manufacture...If you even want to dignify them by referring to them as
>industrial.
Ahh, that's a tempting response, but I'm torn between that and someone else's
suggestion of Stabbing Westward. I think the other poster was right to say
that the worst bands are those who are just cheap ripoffs of popular bands,
a category to which Manufacture, though pretty bad, doesn't really belong.
However, that criterion does suggest several more, including all the Ministry
ripoffs like Skrew and Big Catholic Guilt, NIN ripoffs typified by the pathetic
first Sister Machine Gun, and multitudinous Front 242 ripoffs (can you say
"prayer tower"? I knew you could). In the category of derivative crap, I think
Stabbing Westward still wins, just for the sheer chutzpah of mixing the NIN
imitation with an equal amount of Pearl Jam mimicry, and also because anyone
who has heard "The Cyberflesh Conspiracy" knows that those guys actually had
some taste and talent before they signed with Sony, which makes the sellout
all the worse.
Then again, there are albums which don't sound like anyone in particular but
still just suck. The new Front Line Assembly is a wonderful example.
Manufacture, Mussolini Headkick, etc. also belong to this category. Finally,
there are bands which are marketed as industrial but aren't -- Engines of
Aggression, Mona Lisa Overdrive, etc. etc. and they all suck too.
nd
thx...@net.web
Steven Palmer <palm...@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu> wrote:
>>In article <36dbed$s...@noc.usfca.edu>, Johnson <john...@ac.usfca.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE?
>>
>>Manufacture...If you even want to dignify them by referring to them as
>>industrial.
>Ahh, that's a tempting response, but I'm torn between that and someone else's
>suggestion of Stabbing Westward. I think the other poster was right to say
Stabbing Westward is certainly one of the shittiest albums I've ever heard.
Violent Mood Swings is the worst attempt at mimicing nin thus far. I also
think that Marilyn Manson deserves a nomination for worst industrial band. I
know that they are not truly industrial, but they are just as much as
Stabbing Westward, White Zombie and all the other metal-with-samples groups
out these days.
Sunil Mishra
Your welcome to your opinion, even though I disagree with it strongly.
The worst industrial bad has to be Lab Report. It is a whole bunch of
noise that annoys the hell out of you. It's definitely not worth
listening too.
I have to disagree with that. I have one lab report album, fig x-71, and I
found it far more enjoyable than TDS. (Assuming that was one of the things
you were comparing with...) It's great to listen to if you are in one of
those demented states of mind. As for the worst, I don't yet have an
opinion yet. (Yeah, wasted bandwidth...)
Sunil
Rick Kinney
I think Lab Report have their place. I don't *listen* to them that much, but
they're great background music, and radio DJs will agree that their shit is
great to talk over.
I forgot about Marilyn Manson! Thanks for reminding me of how much they suck.
I had hope for them since they're labelmates w/Coil (soon, anyway)
How about Ethyl Meatplow in that same genre of bands marketed as industrial,
but aren't really, and suck a lot.
One band that is at least semi-original that do suck, that I forgot about
in my first post would be "A Split Second" Easily, the WORST live show I've
ever seen. The sound sucked, they looked like Def Leppard, and the cheesy
octopad shit they were doing was off more then it was on.
You know what's really bad about A Split Second is every once in a while
they come with an amazing intro. Like the intro to Mambo Bitch on the "From
the Inside" album. Just enough to let you know that they have talent, but
prefer to squander it...
flames to-
"Waxy"
sds...@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
everything ever released on Wax Trax.
-dan
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Jonathan Weigand
howsa bout marilyn manson...
what i've heard of them....really made me unhappy. especially that trent would
produce them....
-nothing.
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Jonathan Weigand <wei...@sun.lclark.edu> wrote:
>
>howsa bout marilyn manson...
>what i've heard of them....really made me unhappy. especially that trent would
>produce them....
I think MM's first released album was intentionally like that.
sorta taking all the heavy metal cheeziness as an insult an adding all of
their rediculous sex talk in there. I am looking forward to the demo of
their's I am getting because it was supposed to be more into the industrial
vein. hopefully MM will show that they can do other things
--mike roston--the once and future ending--
Jonathan Weigand
wax trax flames?
ouch....
Bradley Alan Lovett
shit ass debut CD LEADERS AND FOLLOWERS. But you forgot to mention
that we also ripped off "You Know What You Are"-Ministry on "Surrender" too.
All that *greatly* original shit was written while we were still in high
school. Need I say more.
Wait until our new album comes out. I'm *sure* you'll be saying we ripped of
Nine Inch Nails as opposed to Puppy.
Brad Lovett - BEC
Rick Kinney
: SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
: tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
: between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
: stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
Oh, God, here we go...
Actually, I'd say that there are a ton of bad industrial bands that have
gotten nowhere because they thought the way to the top was to rip off
Skinny Puppy or Nitzer Ebb or whatever.
Like Blue Eyed Christ, Smothered Hope (guys- you're supposed to HIDE the
fact that Puppy is your biggest influence), Stabbing Westward, etc.
Ah, the flames shall be burning long and hard on this thread...
exhale-
"Waxy"
DAVID S. WEISSMAN
>
>SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
>tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
>between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
>stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
>
con...@muvms6.wvnet.edu
I vote for Laibach, after the Sympathy stuff.....
just me, though..
maura
Susan Roston
>
>I vote for Laibach, after the Sympathy stuff.....
yeah, but the old laibach is wonderful.
if you want to piss someone off with over gratuitous drum beats, the live
version of nova akropola does quite well.
the older stuff allows them to stand
Bat
> heard. Violent Mood Swings is the worst attempt at mimicing nin thus
> far.
Well, before SW went into this Pearl Jam mode, they released Violent Mood
Swings on a compilation put out by Chase of Re-Constriction Records. It's
actually an excellent song. It's too bad they sold their keyboards and bought
guitars.
Steven Palmer
>
>SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE?
Manufacture...If you even want to dignify them by referring to them as
industrial..
Kyles Smith
I agree with you on Nitzer Ebb. Gives me a headache just thinking about
them.
My vote goes to En Esch's solo album Cheesy. I don't know if this album
was supposed to be industrial, dance, techno, or rock, but nonetheless it
sucks in all four categories. How can a member of such a great band
(KMFDM) make an album that is so... bad.
My vote for the MOST MEDIOCRE INDUSTRIAL BAND is Die Warzau. This band
inspires no feelings in me at all, neither good nor bad. It's like the
muzak of industrial. There but not there. Very zen.
Kyle
The Alchemist
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Darren McLaughlin
: Stabbing Westward *does* suck.. saw them open for Ethyl Meatplow and Front 242
: last November at the Warfield here in SF, and they were just fuckin' atrocious
.
I saw that as well... nothing like watching a guy who can't sing molest a
microphone...
con...@muvms6.wvnet.edu
touche! la pussycat!
The Placebo Prophet
: SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
: tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
: between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
: stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
I'd tend to agree with you on both of those bands....Nitzer Ebb's
always bored the shit out of me, and I haven't liked NIN, (with the
exception of Trent's techical skill,) since I was sixteen.
Problem is, that a good half of the people who really hate either
of the above will argue that they aren't acceptable answers, because they
aren't really industrial....
Oh yeah, I'd stick Manufacture up there somewhere too....
Later...
Morgan,
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john weber
>Johnson (john...@ac.usfca.edu) wrote:
>: SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
>: tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
>: between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
>: stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
> I'd tend to agree with you on both of those bands....Nitzer Ebb's
>always bored the shit out of me, and I haven't liked NIN, (with the
>exception of Trent's techical skill,) since I was sixteen.
yes NIN definitely blows chunks and reznor sings like a homo...'specially
his new bullshit...i dont go for that 'hey pig' faggot shit
Random
>albums sounded like). Alot of the bands might not be terribly original,
>but they have potential; just give them some time. So anyway, that's my
>two cents.
>Fritz
EXACTLY. I couldn't believe somebody hadn't mentioned early Ministry-which is
easily in the running for some of the worst stuff in ANY genre. The only way
I can see them not running away with first, second, and third place, is if you
don't even consider the early work industrial.
Random
Fritz242
In several interviews Al J. said that everything has been done already. I
tend to agree with that. It's all in what you do with it. Just because a
band is heavily influenced by another band doesn't necessarily mean they
suck. If they bring something of their own to it, then I don't really
mind. Not every band can be "ground breaking." I mean everybody talks
about Ministry as if they were SO original. Al himself said they sampled
ZZ Top among others. Some bands are more obvious than others, though.
Also, keep in mind alot of these band are relatively new ( only one or two
albums), and haven't really found their own "sound" yet; they're still
feeding off their initial influences ( remember what Ministy's early
dEvIN tUfFy
|> rive...@netcom.com (The Placebo Prophet) writes:
|> yes NIN definitely blows chunks and reznor sings like a homo...'specially
|> his new bullshit...i dont go for that 'hey pig' faggot shit
Please keep your anti-faggot comments to yourself. You may not think it's
offensive, but using homosexuality as an insult IS....
(sorry to waste bandwidth with this, but this sort of thing just pisses me off)
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TreborK910
generally try to keep with tape-loop stuff, but I checked out a cut-out cd
in my cd store and it was absolutely the WORST stuff I've ever heard.
Two words...."he said".
amadeus....@sfnet.com
Trystero
Funny, I think He Said's two albums contain some of the most wonderful music
I own. I wouldn't call them 'industrial,' though. More like electronic mood-
pieces (for _Hail_) and weird synth-pop (for _Take+Care_).
eagerly anticipating H.A.L.O.,
doug
Rhett Shain Brown
>How about Ethyl Meatplow in that same genre of bands marketed as industrial,
>but aren't really, and suck a lot.
i just couldnt sit back and see this happen. happy days, sweetheart is
a great album, unique at the very least. as far as marketing is concerned,
ethyl meatplow didnt really get any except for some dates with front
242. besides, anyone who can grunt like she can... i wont say anymore.
>You know what's really bad about A Split Second is every once in a while
>they come with an amazing intro. Like the intro to Mambo Bitch on the "From
>the Inside" album. Just enough to let you know that they have talent, but
>prefer to squander it...
you hit this nail on the head, though.
>flames to-
>"Waxy"
take that! just kidding...
rhett
XdadaX
>Severed Heads by FAR.
You're listening to the wrong Severed Heads stuff man!!!!! Try the early
noise works, they're great. Especially Earbitten LP and Clean LP (if you
can find em)
xdadax
sds...@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
>In article <36dbed$s...@noc.usfca.edu>, john...@ac.usfca.edu (Johnson) says:
>>
>>
>>SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
>>tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
>>between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
>>stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
>
>Severed Heads by FAR.
Severed Heads are EASILY one of the most interesting artists associated with
this genre. The stuff on Since the Accident and City Slab Horror rank as some
of the greatest tape loop/musique concrete/collage industrial since Piere Henri
and tracks like Dead Eyes Open and 4wd rank as the greatest techno-pop since
Kraftwerk and TG's United. The most recent Severed Heads track are amazingly
innovative pop songs, with unique and creative programming and sound design.
If you like stuff like Throbbing Gristle and old Cabaret Voltaire, i would
recommend Since the Accident, City Slab Horror, or Clifford Darling to anyone.
IF you're into skinny puppy and that sort of stuff(i'm not) listen to the great
Come Visit the Big Bigot with Dead Eyes Open. Tom Ellerd is probobly the most
creative person working in "industrial" music.
-dan
David Hopman
>
>One band that is at least semi-original that do suck, that I forgot about
>in my first post would be "A Split Second" Easily, the WORST live show I've
>ever seen. The sound sucked, they looked like Def Leppard, and the cheesy
>octopad shit they were doing was off more then it was on.
>
>You know what's really bad about A Split Second is every once in a while
>they come with an amazing intro. Like the intro to Mambo Bitch on the "From
>the Inside" album. Just enough to let you know that they have talent, but
>prefer to squander it...
But the song "From the Inside" is pretty great... the rest is pretty
cheesy. And you are right- they really suck live.
But not nearly as much as.........
THE WEATHERMEN!
Without a doubt the worst concert I have ever seen.
And mere words cannot describe how much the albums suck.
Dave
David Hopman
>David Hopman (pl...@netcom.com) wrote:
>: In article <36fdks$b...@news.bu.edu>, Rick Kinney <wa...@bu.edu> wrote:
>: >
>: >One band that is at least semi-original that do suck, that I forgot about
>: >in my first post would be "A Split Second" Easily, the WORST live show I've
>: >ever seen. The sound sucked, they looked like Def Leppard, and the cheesy
>: >octopad shit they were doing was off more then it was on.
>: >
>: >You know what's really bad about A Split Second is every once in a while
>: >they come with an amazing intro. Like the intro to Mambo Bitch on the "From
>: >the Inside" album. Just enough to let you know that they have talent, but
>: >prefer to squander it...
>
>: But the song "From the Inside" is pretty great... the rest is pretty
>: cheesy. And you are right- they really suck live.
>
>pretty parts to From the Inside. Kiss of Fury defines Shit industrial though.
>
>: But not nearly as much as.........
>
>: THE WEATHERMEN!
>
>HAHAHAHA!
>I forgot about them!
>
>At least they don't seem to take themselves as seriously as Split Second.
>
>: Without a doubt the worst concert I have ever seen.
>
>Where did you see them? In the US?
Yes. In San Francisco. They were dressed in this goofy-assed plastic
day-glo body armor that made them look like rich pre-teen skateboarders.
They were the most arrogant, full of themselves band that I have ever
seen. Most of the time when a band is on stage and they are stinking up
the place, I end up feeling sorry for them. I instead wanted to douse
these worthless twits with gasoline and light them on fire. At least they
would have then provided the audience with some entertainment.
And to think that Geduldig actually had something to do with Tuxedomoon.
>
>: And mere words cannot describe how much the albums suck.
>
>I'll take you're word on that one. There's a cutout Mute Weatherman CD for
>$3.99 at Newbury Comics, but I think even that might be too much cash to
>shell out on them.
If you have any respect for humanity, buy it and destroy it. Save someone
else. $3.99 is a small price to pay...
Dave
Xris of d.E.d.
: Steve
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Oh god! I saw their CD once - thought "Cool, looks like some kind of Skinny Puppy side project." HA.
Never judge a CD by its cover!
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>: >SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
>: >tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
>: >between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
>: >stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
>
>: Severed Heads by FAR.
>
>wouldn't have Coil. True, their recent stuff is garbage, but you can't
>knock them for what they were doing in 1982, before Trent Reznor was out
>of diapers (if he is indeed out of them).
The new stuff is different, and it took my a while to get into it, but much of
it is great. Also check the Piscatorial tracks at the end of the Cuisine cd,
its as good as anything he's done.
-dan
>This Stabbing Westward band seems quite popular as Bad Industrial. It's
>been voted for so many times I'm starting to get curious... !
>
>.... pch
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Dave Dalle
People have been arguing back and forth (Severed heads
sucks/doesn't suck) etc. but we should compile a list of groups or artist
which NEVER get mentioned in these 'worst bands' threads.
Einsturzende Neubauten? Lustmord? Hafler Trio? Test Dept.? etc. there
are artists that exist that you can't say their body of work as a whole is
not orignal or creative, even if you don't like it.
Dave
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>yes NIN definitely blows chunks and reznor sings like a homo...'specially
>his new bullshit...i dont go for that 'hey pig' faggot shit
and i don't go for your bigoted shit. fuck off, weber.
-erik
Sibel A. Tuzlak
: >tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
: >between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
: >stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
: Severed Heads by FAR.
Oh, come on. Severed Heads are pioneers. If it weren't for them, we
wouldn't have Coil. True, their recent stuff is garbage, but you can't
knock them for what they were doing in 1982, before Trent Reznor was out
of diapers (if he is indeed out of them).
This Stabbing Westward band seems quite popular as Bad Industrial. It's
Kevin Archibald
: SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
: tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
: between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
: stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
Deathline Internatinal. Ask anyone.
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amadeus....@sfnet.com
I don't agree with you that Ethyl Meatplow sucks, but different strokes and
all. However, it *is* irksome that they're marketed/labeled "industrial" when
they're not even by a considerable stretch of the imagination. When I first
heard them I thought the male vocalist was remniscient of Douglas McCarthy, and
there are rowdy and angry enough songs on their CD, but outside of those
trivialities, the band hardly qualifies. No, I don't have a better
classification for them..
A Split-Second enthused me when I first heard them - a friend of mine
included "Rigor Mortis" and "Drinking Sand" on a compilation tape he made me,
and I ran out and grabbed _Flesh & Fire 1991 Remixes_ to find that the majority
of their work dragged its feet and fell somewhat short of the tolerable mark. Figures.
amadeus....@sfnet.com
Please attempt to define why it is you would label Trent Reznor's vocals
on "Piggy" as "faggot shit."
Beast of Eden
> : Severed Heads by FAR.
> Oh, come on. Severed Heads are pioneers. If it weren't for them, we
> wouldn't have Coil.
That's just simply not the case; Coil is an outgrowth of Throbbing
Gristle by way of Psychick TV. Throbbing Gristle pre-dates The Severed
Heads by several years. Tom Ellard himself admits that he came in at the
tail end of the Industrial period (SH started in 1980, TG broke up in
1981). Severed Heads are great, but they could hardly be said to have
"pioneered" Industrial music.
> True, their recent stuff is garbage, but you can't knock them for what
> they were doing in 1982
While I prefer earlier Severed Heads stuff, I think what Tom does now is
interesting and well-done as synth-pop goes.
Beast of Eden
Rick Kinney
: In article <36fdks$b...@news.bu.edu>, Rick Kinney <wa...@bu.edu> wrote:
: >
: >One band that is at least semi-original that do suck, that I forgot about
: >in my first post would be "A Split Second" Easily, the WORST live show I've
: >ever seen. The sound sucked, they looked like Def Leppard, and the cheesy
: >octopad shit they were doing was off more then it was on.
: >
: >You know what's really bad about A Split Second is every once in a while
: >they come with an amazing intro. Like the intro to Mambo Bitch on the "From
: >the Inside" album. Just enough to let you know that they have talent, but
: >prefer to squander it...
: But the song "From the Inside" is pretty great... the rest is pretty
: cheesy. And you are right- they really suck live.
Oh, I love parts of SS. "Flesh" is still amazing, and there are some very
pretty parts to From the Inside. Kiss of Fury defines Shit industrial though.
: But not nearly as much as.........
: THE WEATHERMEN!
HAHAHAHA!
I forgot about them!
At least they don't seem to take themselves as seriously as Split Second.
: Without a doubt the worst concert I have ever seen.
Where did you see them? In the US?
: And mere words cannot describe how much the albums suck.
I'll take you're word on that one. There's a cutout Mute Weatherman CD for
$3.99 at Newbury Comics, but I think even that might be too much cash to
shell out on them.
exhale-
"Waxy"
TreborK910
(Dave Dalle) writes:
Einsturzende Neubauten? Lustmord? Hafler Trio? Test Dept.? etc. there
are artists that exist that you can't say their body of work as a whole is
not orignal or creative, even if you don't like it.
I happen to line EN, HT and TD very much. Don't include them with other
"new" rip-off bands beccause they predate their contemporaries by several
years. It would seem to me that you don't like the genre that these bands
represent, not the bands themselves.
Go listen to TD's "A Good Night Out". It's some of the best music I've
ever heard, and it dosen't even try to be industrial. In fact, it reminds
me of some ofthe classical composers mentioned in the "classical music"
thread.
Susan Roston
TreborK910 <trebo...@aol.com> wrote:
>I happen to line EN, HT and TD very much. Don't include them with other
>"new" rip-off bands beccause they predate their contemporaries by several
>years. It would seem to me that you don't like the genre that these bands
>represent, not the bands themselves.
I think you are missing the point here.
what he was saying was make a list of bands that no one thinks suck
altogether. read the articles better man.
--mike roston--the once and future ending--
STEPHEN BURKE
>From: john...@ac.usfca.edu (Johnson)
>Subject: WORST INDUSTRIAL BAND?
>Date: 29 Sep 1994 03:14:21 GMT
>SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
>tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
>between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
>stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
Hmmm...now THAT's a real discussion topic...
Well, there's always the "wannabes" like Mona Lisa Overdrive (awful, but
radio-friendly)...
I'd say I'd have to vote for a band that was marketed as "industrial," but
was just pure shit, "Thud." (it was death-metal for the socially-impared)...
I'd also have to state that Contagion's first album was REALLY awful, but
from the new stuff I've heard they may be redeeming themselves...
What about the worst industrial band to see in concert? I'd have to say 242.
The best? Ethyl Meatplow (although they're gone, and never were really
industrial...Carla didnt wear panties in concert, though...or is that punk?)
and Die Warzau.
neuro
Ariella Gershowitz
: Johnson (john...@ac.usfca.edu) wrote:
: : SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
: : tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
: : between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
: : stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
: I'd tend to agree with you on both of those bands....Nitzer Ebb's
: always bored the shit out of me, and I haven't liked NIN, (with the
: exception of Trent's techical skill,) since I was sixteen.
: Problem is, that a good half of the people who really hate either
: of the above will argue that they aren't acceptable answers, because they
: aren't really industrial....
: Oh yeah, I'd stick Manufacture up there somewhere too....
: Later...
: Morgan,
i have to disagree with you....
i think that Marilyn Manson is far worse that N.E. and N.I.N.
it's the fact that trent actually had something to do with them is pretty
strange.
i will gladly listen to N.E. and N.I.N. before i stoop as low as M.M.
flame on folks!
-skinslave
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con...@muvms6.wvnet.edu
> rive...@netcom.com (The Placebo Prophet) writes:
>
>
>>: SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
>>: tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
>>: between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
>>: stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
>
>> I'd tend to agree with you on both of those bands....Nitzer Ebb's
>>always bored the shit out of me, and I haven't liked NIN, (with the
>>exception of Trent's techical skill,) since I was sixteen.
>
> his new bullshit...i dont go for that 'hey pig' faggot shit
>
hrm--thought it was 1994. Guess not or a homophobe pig wouldn't be
talking this shit.... I'm not a fan of nin either, but i don't want to be
amongst the ranks of this kind...
Tanner/TE
(TreborK910) wrote:
# In article <Cx02p...@freenet.carleton.ca>, ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
# (Dave Dalle) writes:
#
# Einsturzende Neubauten? Lustmord? Hafler Trio? Test Dept.? etc. there
# are artists that exist that you can't say their body of work as a whole is
# not orignal or creative, even if you don't like it.
#
# I happen to line EN, HT and TD very much. Don't include them with other
# "new" rip-off bands beccause they predate their contemporaries by several
# years. It would seem to me that you don't like the genre that these bands
# represent, not the bands themselves.
#
# Go listen to TD's "A Good Night Out". It's some of the best music I've
# ever heard, and it dosen't even try to be industrial. In fact, it reminds
# me of some ofthe classical composers mentioned in the "classical music"
# thread.
I think dave's point was that these bands are always very original,
whether or not anyone happens to like them. Don't argue with a guy who is
saying the same thing you have to say.
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RaVal
"Johnson" from what I could follow of this thread...)
>
> yes NIN definitely blows chunks and reznor sings like a
homo...'specially
> his new bullshit...i dont go for that 'hey pig' faggot shit
Get a grip, buddy. You may think you're cool or something, but homophobic
statements like those don't wash. Grow up. (and until you grow up, shut
up.) There's freedom of speech, sure, but that doesn't cover outright
ignorance. I agree with Conway, don't lump me in with this guy...
Johnson
STUPID-ASS. IT WAS JOHN WEBER, NOT ME. DON'T YOU EVEN TRY TO PIN THOSE
COMMENTS ON ME TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE SOME REDNECK KKK ASSHOLE FROM THE
BACKWOODS SOMEWHERE. LOOK NEXT TIME BEFORE YOU TRY TO BRAND SOMEONE AS A
BIGOT, SHITHEAD!
Rick Kinney
: HEY! DON'T EVEN TRY TO ATTRIBUTE THOSE ANTI-GAY REMARKS TO ME YOU
Whoa! Watch the caps lock there, buddy.
Calm down. everything will be OK.
-"Waxy"
Darren McLaughlin
: In article <36dbed$s...@noc.usfca.edu> john...@ac.usfca.edu (Johnson) writes:
: >From: john...@ac.usfca.edu (Johnson)
: >Subject: WORST INDUSTRIAL BAND?
: >Date: 29 Sep 1994 03:14:21 GMT
: What about the worst industrial band to see in concert? I'd have to say 242.
I disagree there, but to each his own..
: The best? Ethyl Meatplow (although they're gone, and never were really
: industrial...Carla didnt wear panties in concert, though...or is that punk?)
: and Die Warzau.
hey did that funkee male vocalist jump into the moshpit and mosh while he was
singing when you saw em?...that guy made the show interesting.. as well as the
no-panties bit.. and she said her mom and dad were at the show I saw..I would
have thought she would put some on for her mom and dad ;)
Beast of Eden
>>>Johnson (john...@ac.usfca.edu) wrote: (at least it seemed to be
>"Johnson" from what I could follow of this thread...)
No, it was written by John Weber (rab...@netcom.com), rmi's resident
racist homophobic bigot, who's harrassing e-mail to Ben Chang started
the whole "Racists on the Net" thread.
>> yes NIN definitely blows chunks and reznor sings like a
>homo...'specially
>> his new bullshit...i dont go for that 'hey pig' faggot shit
>Get a grip, buddy. You may think you're cool or something, but homophobic
>statements like those don't wash. Grow up. (and until you grow up, shut
>up.) There's freedom of speech, sure, but that doesn't cover outright
>ignorance.
And you need to get a grip yourself, RaVel; that last statement is patently
untrue and also answering flamebait with flamebait. I've gone on at
length about how I thought that free speech didn't cover the harrassing
e-mail he sent to Ben Chang (though I'm loath to recommend calling in
net.cops to stop it), but this isn't harrassment, just a grossly
ignorant statement. And why should you want assholes to keep statements
like that to themselves? Better to know who your enemies are rather than
have people mouth off politically correct rhetoric while secretly plotting
to stab you in the back.
Its best to just treat John Weber as the net.pariah he rapidly making
himself into.
Beast of Eden
STEPHEN BURKE
>From: drmc...@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Darren McLaughlin)
>Subject: Re: WORST INDUSTRIAL BAND?
>Date: Mon, 3 Oct 1994 04:49:12 GMT
Actually, John (the male vocalist) lost his false teeth into my friend's
shirt at the very beginning of the concert... we thought it was a
retainer... fuck, were we ever suprised...
neuro
DANIELH SO
: SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
: tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
: between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
: stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
yeah, a little late in responding, but i wanted to read everyone's
opinons first. no one has mentioned sharkbait yet. maybe everyone had
the good sense NOT to purchase that one. ooohhhh, they really suck.
a split second is pretty bad too. i've only heard the stuff they've
released on wax trax but judging from that stuff i don't wannna hear any
more of it. speaking of bad wax trax (not all of it's bad mind you) no
one mentioned greater than one. ewwwww, they're really bad as well.
i could probably go on, but those three stand out as real losers.
dan!
Rick Kinney
: Johnson (john...@ac.usfca.edu) wrote:
: yeah, a little late in responding, but i wanted to read everyone's
: the good sense NOT to purchase that one. ooohhhh, they really suck.
: a split second is pretty bad too. i've only heard the stuff they've
: released on wax trax but judging from that stuff i don't wannna hear any
: more of it. speaking of bad wax trax (not all of it's bad mind you) no
: one mentioned greater than one. ewwwww, they're really bad as well.
Have you heard "Index"? That one didn't suck too much.
They definitely went downhill after "London." "G-Force" was pretty bland.
But I have to say that what they are doing now as G.T.O. is much, much
worse, and much less innovative. Almost like one said to the other, "hey!
techno is in this year! Let's change our entire sound to go with this new
fad!"
By the way, I just want to say that this is easily my most favorite thread
on r.m.i. I've laughed out loud several times remembering how much some
of these bands suck!
exhale-
"Waxy"
Justin Hutchison
>
>SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
>tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
>between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
>stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
Well that's hard to say. I like most of what I have.. I guess I'll say
that if I dislike 50% of the songs on a disc it's a bad disc.. and
because I own a bad disc it means I dislike what I've heard of a group --
rarely do I purchase discs of groups I don't like.
Anyways -- My Life with The Thrill Kill Kult -- "Kooler than Jesus EP" I
can't stand it.. there's maybe 3 songs on it that I like. Thank god I
didn't buy the albums all the songs are from. Swamp Terrorists -- I can't
even remember the name . oh yes I can... GROW SPEED INJECT or something
like that... I wouldn't have such a hard time with their material if the
vocals weren't so cheesy... I heard that the newer one is better, but I
don't want to spend the money on it.But I do get sick of RoboCop
samples.. I
think I've listened to this disc once.. Ministry's TWITCH and RevCo's
BIGSEXYLAND also really such.. both discs have maybe one good song on it..
But speaking of Twitch, last summer it surged up into the top 50 in terms
of record sales... it was on the chart for 4 weeks, and I can not figure
out why.
j...@unixg.ubc.ca
Caliban
Justin Hutchison
Jonathan Weigand <wei...@sun.lclark.edu> wrote:
>
>howsa bout marilyn manson...
>what i've heard of them....really made me unhappy. especially that trent would
>produce them....
WHOAH... man, is Trent desperate? Bored?
I didn't even vote for Marilyn Manson as the worse Industrial Band
because I wouldn't consider them industrial.. I saw them when they
openned for NIN in Vancouver... and I thought they were the cheesiest
band I had ever seen. I think the best thing about their whole
performance was their roadie/lackeys who ran around standing up the
micstand and helping up the head geek when he stumbled on his rubber
thingy and fell down. What is their point? Why try and be the skinniest
musician in north America?
Mind you, if you put a shit act before you, it makes your fans appreciate
you all the better...
J...@unixg.ubc.ca
Caliban
Greg Wood
Very dancy, kinda a sellout, but not bad.
:>think I've listened to this disc once.. Ministry's TWITCH and RevCo's
:>BIGSEXYLAND also really such.. both discs have maybe one good song on it..
What? Big Sexy Land is one of the best Industrial albums of all time. I
have no idea what you call industrial, but old RevCo is the heart of it.
The title cut, We Shall Cleanse the World, 38, Union Carbide aw man, you
just can't beat it! Too bad "You Often Forget" wasn't on that album...
As for twitch, yes, it has some bad songs, but the 12" of Over the Shoulder
is definately worth getting.
Woody
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RaVal
writes:
Ahem. First of all, an apology. I wasn't sure _who_ make the anti-gay
remarks, (if you looked closely at the top of my last post, you could tell
that I stated as such,) but was merely agreeing that that kind of
intolerant language was uncool. So if it was "John Weber", so be it -
_he's_ the one I was addressing, then. Secondly, DONT YELL. It's
unbecoming. In the case of a misunderstanding it's a lot more productive
to converse about issues than to fly off the handle. Third, I _did_ look -
and couldn't quite tell - for who wrote the offending message. So, on the
record, I wasn't intentionally trying to 'brand' anyone. That's not in my
nature. Why would I write against intolerance while taking an intolerant
stance? that's counter-productive...
Again, apologies for the misplaced quote, I meant no harm.
(I think I figured out the thread, and you were also quoting the
intolerant person in question? no?)
RaVal.
RaVal
_is_ making for constructive conversation, and hopefully we're all learing
something from it. (I am. I'll admit it.) :)
First of all, an apology to Johnson. That quote was a _grave_ mistake on
my part, I had misfollowed the thread and "pinned" it on the wrong guy.
Second, the concept of free speech _could_ be agrued that destructive
comments, while letteing one know who one's enimies are, could also
encourage other such destructive comments from others. I don't have the
answers, I will not pretend to.
Third, my only point was that I found the homophobic comments
inappropriate and unnessesary on this forum.
RaVal.
P.s. I apologised privately to Johnson as well.
RaVal
Somehow I missed this JW character up until now. Thanks for clueing me in.
and I've been thinking, yeah, I guess it probably is better to see people
for what they really are than what they pretend to be. That's why I'm
trying to be honest and open, and live up to my mistake with the before
stated apology.
Thanks,
RaVal.
sds...@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
>:>Anyways -- My Life with The Thrill Kill Kult -- "Kooler than Jesus EP" I
>
>Very dancy, kinda a sellout, but not bad.
>
>:>think I've listened to this disc once.. Ministry's TWITCH and RevCo's
>:>BIGSEXYLAND also really such.. both discs have maybe one good song on it..
>
>What? Big Sexy Land is one of the best Industrial albums of all time. I
>have no idea what you call industrial, but old RevCo is the heart of it.
revco the HEART of industrial? Man, i'm not even going to fucking respond to
this.(can i be more of an ass?) Anyway, go buy Cabaret Voltaire's Mix Up or
something.
-dan
Alan Carter
Placebo Prophet) wrote:
> Johnson (john...@ac.usfca.edu) wrote:
>
> : SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
> : tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
> : between NIN and Nitzer Ebb
Ohhhhhhh! People have died for less ;-)
But if i had to say my worst I would be the totaly unimaginative and
complete GOB-SHITE 'CODE WANK' oops sorry i mean 'CODE IV'.
Chris McAloney
> SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
> tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
> between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
> stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
Consolidated. Deal with it. I like NIN and Nitzer Ebb, though...
Greg Wood
:>>have no idea what you call industrial, but old RevCo is the heart of it.
> revco the HEART of industrial? Man, i'm not even going to fucking
> respond to this.(can i be more of an ass?) Anyway, go buy Cabaret
> Voltaire's Mix Up or something.
What does CV have to do with it? Most of the original industrial was
dancy, I don't know what you are talking about. I grew up with all of this
shit, living a block away from Wax Trax, which at, the time, carried all of
the industrial you could think of (not necessarily on their label) Richard
23 was the key to the old RevCo, then Al went psycho with SSP and all of
his thrash Ministry stuff.
So what the fuck do you like tuff guy?
Alan Carter
Wood) wrote:
> What does CV have to do with it? Most of the original industrial was
> dancy, I don't know what you are talking about. I grew up with all of this
> shit, living a block away from Wax Trax, which at, the time, carried all of
> the industrial you could think of (not necessarily on their label) Richard
> 23 was the key to the old RevCo, then Al went psycho with SSP and all of
> his thrash Ministry stuff.
>
CV have quite a lot to do with it as do Nitzer ebb, white house, cindy
talk, foetus etc....
IMO Industrial is what you make it and bands like ministry are
extreamly late coming on the scean and have had little worthy of any real
credability just like Mr NIN. the bigist load of Hype shite, total wank,
bollocks, oh pity me, stupid, muther fucking, bollox going.
But I love it all the same ;-)
Alan (The wonder Llama)
con...@muvms6.wvnet.edu
i may just begin to believe that this human race of ours has
hope...maybe... :)
maura (conway)
Johnson
(averaging in music quality and the degree to which the band is overrated)
one of them all:
FOETUS!
Flame me, flame me all you want. Let me die in a fiery hell! All I know is
I once had the Nail album and when I tried listening to it, I felt
embarassed about owning such crap. Way too goofy sounding for my tastes.
They should scrape Foetus off the wheel and dump J.G. and the boys down
the toilet.
MHO,
William L. Johnson
Rick Kinney
: In article <371gap$9...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, g-w...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg
: Wood) wrote:
: > What does CV have to do with it? Most of the original industrial was
: > dancy, I don't know what you are talking about. I grew up with all of this
: > shit, living a block away from Wax Trax, which at, the time, carried all of
: > the industrial you could think of (not necessarily on their label) Richard
: > 23 was the key to the old RevCo, then Al went psycho with SSP and all of
: > his thrash Ministry stuff.
: >
: CV have quite a lot to do with it as do Nitzer ebb, white house, cindy
: talk, foetus etc....
Gotta disagree with the Nitzer Ebb part there. I love Cindytalk & Foetus, I
think that they're both extremely innovative, but Nitzer aren't/
Don't get me wrong, I love Belief, That Total Age, & can even tolerate
the nine million mixes of Warsaw Ghetto on So Bright So Strong.
But, Nitzer Ebb ARE NOT INNOVATORS!
If you own DAF's "Alles Ist Gut" "Gold Und Liebe" or Die Krupps "Stahlsymph"
It's pretty obvious wher Nitzer Ebb got their sound from.
exhale-
"Waxy"
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-DAF
Rick Kinney
: Shit. I started this thread and forgot to list the absolute worst
: FOETUS!
while I like some of Foetus's stuff on vinyl.
live Foetus SUCKED!!!
Sucked a lot!!!
exhale-
"Waxy"
Kontrol Faktory
: Shit. I started this thread and forgot to list the absolute worst
: FOETUS!
You probably didn't listen to it LOUD enough, or perhaps you were too
SOBER when you listened to it.
MI>E
SUGAR in their vitamins?
>What does CV have to do with it? Most of the original industrial was
>dancy, I don't know what you are talking about.
you're special. you win a prize.
hasta.
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Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE.
john weber
Rick Kinney
: > hrm--thought it was 1994. Guess not or a homophobe pig wouldn't be
: >talking this shit.... I'm not a fan of nin either, but i don't want to be
: >amongst the ranks of this kind...
: well hey its not like i care...
: and fuck yeh i am a homophobe i dont want some fuckin queer to come up
: behind me and try to rump ranger my ass...maybe you wouldnt mind but i
: sure as hell would
John. There's a newsgroup devoted to people like you. I think it's called
"alt.flame.faggots" or something.
You're drifting WAY out of the subject of the thread, and wasting bandwidth
here. They'll love you on whatever that homophobe newsgroup is.
Please post something RELEVANT TO THE THREAD.
Heilige-
"Waxy"
john weber
>In article <rabiezCw...@netcom.com>, rab...@netcom.com (john weber) writes:
>> rive...@netcom.com (The Placebo Prophet) writes:
>>
>>>Johnson (john...@ac.usfca.edu) wrote:
>>
>>>: SO, ANY OPINIONS ANYONE? My vote would be very unpopular and would be a
>>>: tie. You people will probably want to kill me but it would be a tie
>>>: between NIN and Nitzer Ebb. I've tried to listen to both N.E. & N.I.N.'s
>>>: stuff (that is complete album-wise) & I found them unlistenable.
>>
>>> I'd tend to agree with you on both of those bands....Nitzer Ebb's
>>>always bored the shit out of me, and I haven't liked NIN, (with the
>>>exception of Trent's techical skill,) since I was sixteen.
>>
>> yes NIN definitely blows chunks and reznor sings like a homo...'specially
>> his new bullshit...i dont go for that 'hey pig' faggot shit
>>
> hrm--thought it was 1994. Guess not or a homophobe pig wouldn't be
Erik Henriksen
>well hey its not like i care...
>
>and fuck yeh i am a homophobe i dont want some fuckin queer to come up
>behind me and try to rump ranger my ass...maybe you wouldnt mind but i
>sure as hell would
no need to worry: with such a ridiculous and cowardly outlook i don't
think any queer in his right mind would WANT to "rump ranger" your ass.
i sure as hell wouldn't.
-erik
Serge Solski u
The funny thing is, this Weber guy is probably just a closet
"queer." One-in-eleven males are genetically homosexual, and an outright
homophobic reaction is almost a sure sign. I have a friend like this --
bashes homosexuals like there's no tomorrow, yet he is obviously gay. It
must scare the hell out of them.
-Mark
--
"Key chuckles. 'If Skinny Puppy, in terms of the movie _Alien_, is a
chest-burster, then Doubting Thomas is more of a face-hugger,' he informs,
as if that were an explanation."
-Keyboard, Jan '92
Fritz242
writes:
>> hrm--thought it was 1994. Guess not or a homophobe pig wouldn't be
>>talking this shit.... I'm not a fan of nin either, but i don't want to
be
>>amongst the ranks of this kind...
>
>well hey its not like i care...
>
>and fuck yeh i am a homophobe i dont want some fuckin queer to come up
>behind me and try to rump ranger my ass...maybe you wouldnt mind but i
>sure as hell would
fuck off, dipshit.
Fritz
dEvIN tUfFy
|>
|> Back to the topic at hand. Anyone out there from the S.F. Bay Area and saw
|> Front Line Assembly live at The Edge in Palo Alto on their last tour?
|> Well, what was the name of that one band opening up for FLA that tried to
|> burn an American flag and took half of their last song to get the damned
|> thing lit? Well, just for that pathetic attempt at being "Shocking", I
|> believe that they deserve a vote for worst industrial band, whoever they are.
|>
i believe this was VOICE OF DESTRUCTION... I have there 'steamroller tactics
for fun and profit' cd, and its pretty good, so i couldn't agree that they
should be voted 'worst'... (maybe 'least shocking' er something...)
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Erik Henriksen
>In article <37fsgf$p...@noc.usfca.edu>, john...@ac.usfca.edu (Johnson) writes:
>|>
>|> thing lit? Well, just for that pathetic attempt at being "Shocking", I
>|> believe that they deserve a vote for worst industrial band, whoever they are.
>|>
>
>i believe this was VOICE OF DESTRUCTION... I have there 'steamroller tactics
>for fun and profit' cd, and its pretty good, so i couldn't agree that they
>should be voted 'worst'... (maybe 'least shocking' er something...)
you liked that album? i've got it, but the only decent (or halfway so) song
on there is, hell, i forget the name of it, but it's the one on the first
industrial revolution compilation. i gave the rest a thorough listen once,
and just couldn't stand it.
actually, if you know anyone who wants it, i'm willing to sell :-)
-erik
Ryan Bobko
>>and fuck yeh i am a homophobe i dont want some fuckin queer to come up
>>behind me and try to rump ranger my ass...maybe you wouldnt mind but i
>>sure as hell would
Remember when you were a kid, and your mother always said that if something
bothered you, if you ignored it it would go away? 10 year olds will always
be 10 year olds. *WE* know how tough this guy is, so now that we know, maybe
if we ignore him, he'll go away?
Ryan
Chris Krolczyk
: well hey its not like i care...
: and fuck yeh i am a homophobe i dont want some fuckin queer to come up
: behind me and try to rump ranger my ass...maybe you wouldnt mind but i
: sure as hell would
John apparently has a problem. It's called "a lack of appropiate medication",
I think.
--
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Director, Freethinkers United to Offend Bluenoses Everywhere, Inc.
"Offend you? Hell, we try to offend everybody!"
Vagabond
: and fuck yeh i am a homophobe i dont want some fuckin queer to come up
: sure as hell would
You know what? This isn't even about* NIN, but I don't care.
I'm a queer and the only thing I would "rump ranger" your punk little ass
with is my size 9 combat boots. Heh. (I feel so juvenile now.)
Why does it seem that every homophobe thinks that a gay boy actually
wants to screw his unwiped ass? It's usually the ugly ones too.
Thing is, phobe-boy, I'm a girl and a queer and I wouldn't screw you. So
deal.
(Truthfully, everybody, I just get sick of this shit. I have a lesbian
mom and I myself don't let gender get in the way of those I love. So to
hear any kind of music referred to as "faggot shit" as if that were a bad
thing just gets my g-string in a bunch. Forgive my juvenile response.)
:::leslie:::3jane:::vagabond girl:::
Johnson
You people are just giving him the attention that he is obviously
desperately craving for.
Back to the topic at hand. Anyone out there from the S.F. Bay Area and saw
Front Line Assembly live at The Edge in Palo Alto on their last tour?
Well, what was the name of that one band opening up for FLA that tried to
burn an American flag and took half of their last song to get the damned
thing lit? Well, just for that pathetic attempt at being "Shocking", I
believe that they deserve a vote for worst industrial band, whoever they are.
William L. Johnson
RaVal
paranoid, etc... (see the current postings of Re: WORST INDUSTRIAL BAND?)
So let's get back to talking about music!
BTW, for those of you just tuning in, Johnson and I have worked out my
error, in which I accidentaly blamed him for JW's ignorance. He's accepted
my apology for the error...
RaVal
con...@muvms6.wvnet.edu
don't flatter yourself, son...
john weber
WOW my own thread now...khaha lesbians are rad but i think fags are sick
and thats just what i think of em...if i were a girl i would be a
lesbian...
Beast of Eden
>>[deleted]
>>Its best to just treat John Weber as the net.pariah he rapidly making
>>himself into.
>>Beast of Eden
>right on
A back-handed compliment if I've ever gotten one.
BOE
Nathan J. Nagel
Homophobic Asshole by john we...@netcom.com
> and thats just what i think of em...if i were a girl i would be a
> lesbian...
Maybe you're just a lesbian trapped in a guy's body...
later,
procrastiNate
Paul Dowman
: WOW my own thread now...khaha lesbians are rad but i think fags are sick
: and thats just what i think of em...if i were a girl i would be a
: lesbian...
John, dumb fuck that you are, this is rec.music.industrial, not
alt.homophobic.losers. Post in the right place next time.
Paul.
john weber
>later,
>procrastiNate
yeh you could be right but oh well...i still get laid every day an im
fuckin lil girlies...im 18 and i like the leel 13 year old girlies...i
say 'cmere lil girlies i have some puppies in my van' and i get the lil
girls drunk and stick my dick in em
john weber
con...@muvms6.wvnet.edu
> In article <rabiezCx...@netcom.com> rab...@netcom.com (john weber) writes:
>
>>WOW my own thread now...khaha lesbians are rad but i think fags are sick
>>and thats just what i think of em...if i were a girl i would be a
>>lesbian...
>
> 3. "if i were a girl i'd be a lesbian..." then you'd be a queer. you like
> women. understandable. that makes you straight. some men like men. that
> makes them gay. i see no reason to believe that you have any way of knowing
> what life would be like if you were a woman. maybe you should say "if i were
> a woman there's a ten percent or larger chance that i have a genetic tendency
> towards becoming queer." now you're talking.
but what if he were a man??
>
> 4. "i think fags are...and thats just what i think..." that's really great.
> terrific logical backup. i think that 1+1=3. that doesn't make it right.
> it makes me stupid. think!
>
>
> what a waste of bandwidth.
>
> my apologies to all at rmi.
>
>
> --DRiP
> straight but not narrow
mario salguero
>fuckin lil girlies...im 18 and i like the leel 13 year old girlies...i
>say 'cmere lil girlies i have some puppies in my van' and i get the lil
>girls drunk and stick my dick in em
>
Well, this is nice (said with great sarcasm). Not only is our beloved
friend J. Weber ("the advocate of tolerance") a homophobic bastard and
racist fuck, but also a rapist. He sure does reveal more about his
disgusting self with every post he writes. What a waste of human being.
Enough for today,
Mario
amadeus....@sfnet.com
I had the good fortune to see both Ruins and Voice Of Destruction open for the
Legendary Pink Dots at the Kennel Club,SF,CA, 12 May 1993.. despite the lead
singer's gratuitously silly antics, I liked Voice of Destruction enough to hunt
them down in the record stores the next day.. Got stoned and talked to the
drummer outside while waiting for LPD's set; memorable evening. My point?
Just two cents against Voice of Destruction being the worst industrial band.
Johnson
: In a previous article, rab...@netcom.com (john weber) says:
: >yeh you could be right but oh well...i still get laid every day an im
: >fuckin lil girlies...im 18 and i like the leel 13 year old girlies...i
: >say 'cmere lil girlies i have some puppies in my van' and i get the lil
: >girls drunk and stick my dick in em
Does this mean that we'll now have to change the thread to Fucking Homophobic
Asshole And Child Molester?
Oh by the way, I'm surprised that you can actually get the thirteen year
olds. I thought the only women you could ever get were inflatable. Those
poor girls. Bet it was hell for them when they were playing "Let's find
little Johnny's weewee".
Gee, can't wait to see what will be revealed in the next episode of John
Weber's True Confessions. Could it be a secret lust for sheep and cattle?
Could it be him having sex with a tree's knothole? How's about
necrophilia?
Oh, and to tie this in with the discussion of industrial, I'll leave this
out for a topic of discussion: "NIN are industrial but not alternative".
Discuss.
Ashamed For Actually Paying Mind to Mr. Weber,
William L. Johnson
Michael Handler
> WOW my own thread now...khaha lesbians are rad but i think fags are sick
> and thats just what i think of em...if i were a girl i would be a
> lesbian...
Correcting your ignorance would take more energy than I would
ever have.
--
Michael Handler <gre...@netaxs.com>
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