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Ashok

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> Last week, I listened a great triplet by Khurshid, Mukesh and Hamida, from the
> film Murti. This is a great song with wordings, 'Badariya Baras Gayi Us Paar'.
> It was a great treat in the morning by SLBC.
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> This was the first play back song sung by Mukesh. Composed was Bulo C. Rani. The
> year 1945. This is the only song Mukesh ever sung with Khurshid.
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If the Murti song is the first time Mukesh sang for another actor, it
means it was before 'Pehli Nazar' of Anil Biswas. Is that correct?


> Other triplet, which I consider all time great, is by Talat-Asha-Mubarak Beghum.
> Many people may not like this lovely voice (Mubarak Begum), but those who have
> listened to her magical voice in Kedar Sharma's Shokhiyan (MD - Jamal Sen : A
> talented MD), can tell how good she can be at her best. (Remember her number
> with Rafi ? 'Devta Tum Ho Mera Sahara, Maine Thama Hai Daman Tumhara'.) The
> triplet I am referring to, is from an unknown film - Tatar Ka Chor; and
> the wordings are: 'Na Manzil Hai, Na Manzil Ka Nishan Hai'. This song is also
> in the list of missing numbers in my collection; any pointers please ?
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Thanks for the song info. 'Tatar Ka Chor' would be one of those untraceable
films with which Khayaam kept himself occupied between 'Footpath' and 'Lala Rukh.'
I vaguely remember the song from radio. No idea where one can get a recording.
By the way, "devta tum ho mera sahara" is from Kamal Amrohi's 'Daaera',
which also had music by Jamal Sen as did 'Shokhiyan'.

I think the following two are worthy additions to Snehal's list:

Song: "mohabbat ki dhun, beqaraaron se poochho,
yeh naghamaa hai kya chand taaron se poochho"

Film: Dil-e-Nadan
Singers: Talat, Jagjit Kaur, and Sudha Malhotra
Music: Ghulam Mohammed
Lyrics: Shakeel


Song: "darashan do ghanashyamanath mori ankhiyaan pyasi re"
Film: Narsi Bhagat
Singers: Hemant, Sudha Malhotra, and Manna Dey
Music: Ravi
Lyrics: Gopal Singh Nepali

Ashok

Kalyan Kolachala

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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Some more triplets:

Diya jisne dil lut gaya woh bechara, Saigal + ?, Banwara
Kya humne bigaada hai tum humko satate ho, Saigal + ?, Banwara

Then there is one by the three Mangeshkar sisters in Mother India:
Duniya mein hum aaye hain

Another one is :
Dukh ke din beete re, Manna, Rafi, Shamshad

In Baiju Bawra:
Door koyi gaye, Lata, Rafi, Shamshad

In shree 420:
Ramayya vastavayya, Lata, Rafi, Mukesh

Roshan has lots of triplets (or more) in Tajmahal and Barsaat ki Raat.

CR has "Sabse bhala rupiah" in Sargam with Lata and Rafi.

And so on. The list is huge specially in multi-starrers or triangle stories
and qawwali songs.

I couldn't find any triplet by SDB and OP Nayyar. Can anybody think of any?

Cheers,
Kalyan


Nitin Sharma

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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Snehal B. Oza (sne...@sequent.com) wrote:

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: And the last but not least is an immortal creation of Pankaj Mullick in a
: triplet 'Dunia RangRangili Baba, Dunia RangRangili' sung by maestro K. L. Sehgal
: , PankajDa himself and Uma Shahi; for Dharti Mata.
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: The most amazing aspect of the song is the 'Aalaap' of singers in background.
: When Sehgal/Pankaj is singing it's Uma, who sings in background and when Uma is
: singing its Sehgal. There is no piece of music between different stanza as in
: the case of the other triplet I mentioned earlier by Hansraj Behl.
:

"duniya rang-rangeelee baba" doesn't feature Pankaj Mullick's voice.
The third voice is Pahari Sanyal's (the blind actor/singer).

And is it Uma Shahi ? or is it Uma 'tun-tun' devi ?
I say this because AFAIK, only female singers to have sung
(duets/triplets) with sehgal are Tun-tun and Khursheed.


Another thing I heard abt sehgal and pankaj mullick was that Mullick
quit singing once he heard sehgal sing ! Thereafter, he only composed
music for New theatres.

Is it really true or just another spicy hearsay ?

-Nitin Sharma


Faez Nasrudin Kaiser

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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Two more fun triplets are:

Gao tarane man ke from Aan (Rafi, Shamshad, Lata : MD Naushad)
Dekha Pehla Pehla Pyar from CID (Rafi, Shamshad, Geeta : MD OPN)

and I think the following is also a triplet,

Darr na mohabbat kar le from Andaz (Rafi, Lata, Shamshad : MD Naushad)

Regards,
Faez
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Snehal B. Oza

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Some Triplets of Hindi Films

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In hindi film music, solos, duests, chorus and kawwalis are generally more
popular and far more in numbers than songs with more than 2 singers singing
(not in chorus). Such songs, especially triplets, are not big in number.

Last week, I listened a great triplet by Khurshid, Mukesh and Hamida, from the
film Murti. This is a great song with wordings, 'Badariya Baras Gayi Us Paar'.
It was a great treat in the morning by SLBC.

This was the first play back song sung by Mukesh. Composed was Bulo C. Rani. The
year 1945. This is the only song Mukesh ever sung with Khurshid.

This song reminds me some more fabulous ever lasting triplets of that golden
era of 40s and 50s. There is this absolute gem by Hansraj Behl in a 1951 film
Nakhre, where Rafi, Geeta Roy and Lata Mangeshkar sings 'Hamne Bhi Pyar Kiya
Pyar Kiya Pyar Kiya'.

The beauty of this song is that there are only three stanzas with the mukhda
repeated at the end of each one. What makes it different than other songs is
the mukhda at the end of the stanza is sung by other singer who sings the
next stanza too. This gives this song a unique effect. This is my favourite
song. I would deeply appreciate if some one can tell me where to get this song.

Other triplet, which I consider all time great, is by Talat-Asha-Mubarak Beghum.
Many people may not like this lovely voice (Mubarak Begum), but those who have
listened to her magical voice in Kedar Sharma's Shokhiyan (MD - Jamal Sen : A
talented MD), can tell how good she can be at her best. (Remember her number
with Rafi ? 'Devta Tum Ho Mera Sahara, Maine Thama Hai Daman Tumhara'.) The
triplet I am referring to, is from an unknown film - Tatar Ka Chor; and
the wordings are: 'Na Manzil Hai, Na Manzil Ka Nishan Hai'. This song is also
in the list of missing numbers in my collection; any pointers please ?

The other triplet that proves, Shanker-Jaikishan's creativity beyond any doubt,
and establishes them as talented composers (it was a different story that,
they have produced many monotonous/similar tunes of just above average quality.
That was chiefly in the 60s and that can be accounted to general degradation of
music in the films owing to higher demands in terms of number of films produced
then.) is from 1953 film 'Parbat' sung by a wonderful trio of Rafi-Lata-Geeta.
This song alone can take them a long way in the history of master music
directors. The song I am pointing to is 'Kya Bataun Muhobat Hai Kya' . Other
notable song of Parbat is a gem of Lata 'Sunaun Kisko Afsana'.

And the last but not least is an immortal creation of Pankaj Mullick in a
triplet 'Dunia RangRangili Baba, Dunia RangRangili' sung by maestro K. L. Sehgal
, PankajDa himself and Uma Shahi; for Dharti Mata.

The most amazing aspect of the song is the 'Aalaap' of singers in background.
When Sehgal/Pankaj is singing it's Uma, who sings in background and when Uma is
singing its Sehgal. There is no piece of music between different stanza as in
the case of the other triplet I mentioned earlier by Hansraj Behl.

These four songs are the most memorable triplets of Indian cinema music.

Vish Krishnan

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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Snehal B. Oza (sne...@sequent.com) wrote:

: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

: Some Triplets of Hindi Films

: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

: In hindi film music, solos, duests, chorus and kawwalis are generally more
: popular and far more in numbers than songs with more than 2 singers singing
: (not in chorus). Such songs, especially triplets, are not big in number.

I wonder if you have heard songs from DIL-E-NAADAAN, a Ghulam Mohammed scored
movie from the '50s. In addition to Talat's immortal "Zindagi Dene Waale
Sun", Jagjit Kaur puts in a rare non-Khaiyyaam appearance in it. I refer
to a Talat-Jagjit Kaur-Sudha Malhotra classic set somewhat to Brindabani
Saarang. Just love the sound of

Mohabbat Ki Dhun Beqaraaron Se Poochho, Beqaraaron Se Poochho
Ye Naghma Hai Kyaa, Chaand Taaron Se Poochho, Chaand....


Anil Biswas also has a "triplet" gem to his credit. The very first song in
ANGULIMAAL is a Basant celebration sung (in Raaga Bahaar of course) by Lata,
Manna Dey, and Meena Kapoor:

Aayee Aayee Basanti Belaa,
Lagaa Re Lagaa Phoolon Ka Ban Ban Melaa
Magan Man Jhoom Rahaa, Aayee Aayee....

I suppose this song does not qualify because there are some choral elements
in it.

There are quite a few such triplets even from the '60s that I quite enjoyed.

Ashok

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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Kalyan Kolachala <kal...@taligent.com> wrote:
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> I couldn't find any triplet by SDB and OP Nayyar. Can anybody think of any?
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> Cheers,
> Kalyan
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Here are a couple by SDB in the 60s:

Song: na main dhan chaahun, na ratan chaahun
Film: Kala Bazaar
Singers: Geeta Dutt, Sudha Malhotra, and Rafi
BTW, HMV/EMI recordings have created the mystery of missing Mohd Rafi
for this song!)

Song: manamohan man mein tum hi samaaye
Film: Kaise Kahun
Singers: SD Batish, Suman Kalyanpur, and Rafi


For a triplet from OP Nayyar, see the posting by Vandana on this thread.


Ashok

Kalyan Kolachala

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nasr...@Glue.umd.edu (Faez Nasrudin Kaiser) wrote:
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>Two more fun triplets are:
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>Gao tarane man ke from Aan (Rafi, Shamshad, Lata : MD Naushad)
>Dekha Pehla Pehla Pyar from CID (Rafi, Shamshad, Geeta : MD OPN)

I'm afraid this doesn't qualify as a triplet as the Geeta version is
separate though they're all merged in the HMV cassette.

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>and I think the following is also a triplet,
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>Darr na mohabbat kar le from Andaz (Rafi, Lata, Shamshad : MD Naushad)

I am not sure here. It's only Lata and Shamshad in the cassette I have.

Cheers,
Kalyan


Vandana

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Hi Ashok

Read ur additions to the triplets list. "Mohabbat ki dhun" is a
very nice triplet which came to my mind also. This song apparently
is also one in which Khaiyyam's wife Jagjit Kaur has sung for
another music director other than Khaiyyam (Ghulam Mohd.). I like
the song very much.

Another lovely triplet which makes me very very emotional is
the Sajjad compostiion from "Rustom Sohraab", A Rafi-Manna Dey-
Saddat Khan song
"Phir tumhaari yaad aayi, aei sanam aei sanam,
hum na bhoolenge tumhe allah qasam..."

And how about the Rafi-KK-Shamshad duet from "Naya Andaaz" (OPN)
"aaj suhaani raat re, hogi sajan se baat re". Very nice song.

The above two, I recorded from Preetham during my recent visit
to Washington and hence are fresh on my mind. There must be
many many more, maybe not as memorable.

Vandana.

Nilesh Savargaonkar

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>Two more fun triplets are:

>Gao tarane man ke from Aan (Rafi, Shamshad, Lata : MD Naushad)
>Dekha Pehla Pehla Pyar from CID (Rafi, Shamshad, Geeta : MD OPN)
>I'm afraid this doesn't qualify as a triplet as the Geeta version is
>separate though they're all merged in the HMV cassette.

This song is 'Leke (and not dekha) pehla pehla pyar and it is sung by Rafi,
Shamshad Begum and Asha Bhosale (not Geeta Dutt).

>Song: na main dhan chaahun, na ratan chaahun
>Film: Kala Bazaar
>Singers: Geeta Dutt, Sudha Malhotra, and Rafi
>BTW, HMV/EMI recordings have created the mystery of missing Mohd Rafi
>for this song!)

The song on the casette does not have Mohd Rafi as well as when I saw the movie
recently Mohd. Rafi's voice does not appear anywhere in the song. The song is
picturized on Leela ChitNees and Nanda and Dev Anand is shown feeling guilty as
he comes home with lot of money by sellin tickets in black. So I don't think
Mohd. Rafi is there in this song. Then it is not a triplet but just a duet.

- Nilesh


Snehal B. Oza

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I regret for two errors in the original article.

1. 'Devta Tum Ho Mera Sahara' is not from Shokhiyan, but from Daayra MD same as
Shokhiyan (Jamal Sen)

2. Duniya Rang Rangili Baba - Singers are Sehgal, K. C. Dey and Uma-Shashi
I would like to thank Ketan Dholakiya who pointed out this particular error.

Also I would like to clarify her that Umadevi (Tuntun) and this Uma of this song
are two different persons. Also Sehgal has sung with many other female singers;
notable amongst them are Khurshid, Uma, Suraiya, Kananbala.

The theory that after listening Sehgal, Pankaj Mullick stopped singing is
baseless and totally wrong.

Regards,

Snehal


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sne...@sequent.com (Snehal B. Oza) wrote:

>I regret for two errors in the original article.

>1. 'Devta Tum Ho Mera Sahara' is not from Shokhiyan, but from Daayra MD same as
> Shokhiyan (Jamal Sen)

Yes, "Shaukhiyan" did not have Mubarak Begum's voice at all!

(One amusing point is to see young Lata playing tanpura in the background,
and not shown singing her immortal song "Sapana ban sajan aaye.." which was
picturised as some other actress singing it.)

>2. Duniya Rang Rangili Baba - Singers are Sehgal, K. C. Dey and Uma-Shashi
> I would like to thank Ketan Dholakiya who pointed out this particular error.

Correction to this correction:

This trio is by Pankaj, saigal and Uma Shashi. I can distiguish the voices
of Pankaj Malik and K.C.Dey even in my sleep. I can prove it any day.


>Also I would like to clarify her that Umadevi (Tuntun) and this Uma of this song
>are two different persons. Also Sehgal has sung with many other female singers;
>notable amongst them are Khurshid, Uma, Suraiya, Kananbala.

>The theory that after listening Sehgal, Pankaj Mullick stopped singing is
>baseless and totally wrong.

>Regards,

>Snehal


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