Bhupendra vs Bhupinder
Vishal
Bhupinder Singh, are one and the same. I would tend to believe so. but,
then why are they credited differently at different places.
Thanks
Vishal
SKalra902
Could you please give some reference to the context?
Where exactly/which compilation, etc., are the two singers credited? Or are
you talking just in general?
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Girish Bhat
> I would want to know whether the two singers credited as Bhupendra and
> Bhupinder Singh, are one and the same. I would tend to believe so. but,
> then why are they credited differently at different places.
>
> Thanks
>
> Vishal
Vishal, THAT's something I have always wondered about too. Are they the same
guy? Is the guy who used to sing for Rishi Kapoor (Main Shayar toh nahin,
Hoga Tumsa pyaara kaun etc) the SAME guy who sang "Do deewane iss shahar mein"?
And if not, what happened to the 1st guy?
shalu
>
> "Vishal" <vr...@spame.nyc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<YUGg9.38083$hh.93...@twister.nyc.rr.com>...
> > I would want to know whether the two singers credited as Bhupendra and
> > Bhupinder Singh, are one and the same. I would tend to believe so. but,
> > then why are they credited differently at different places.
> >
> guy? Is the guy who used to sing for Rishi Kapoor (Main Shayar toh nahin,
> Hoga Tumsa pyaara kaun etc) the SAME guy who sang "Do deewane iss shahar mein"?
> And if not, what happened to the 1st guy?
well well. We are definitely talking about two different persons now.
But Bhupendra and Bhupinder Singh are one and the same. The singer
who sang likes of "mai.n shaayar to nahii.n" and
"hogaa tumase pyaaraa kaun" is Shailendra Singh. Within his limitations
as a singer he had a reasonable success. He sang for Rishi Kapoor's many
early movies. RDB continued to use his voice for Rishi - eg. Sagar.
He also tried his luck at acting - Agreement opposite Rekha and
Gopichand Jasoos (or was it Do Jasoos?) opposite Zeenat. I think he
was last heard in Maine Pyar Kiya singing for Laxmikant Berde.
As for Bhupendra and Bhupinder Singh, they are one and the same. Why
credited differently - I have no idea. But by and large I have
observed that his non-filmi ghazal albums with wife Mitali mention
his name as Bhupinder while movies credits show Bhupendra.
http://www.the-south-asian.com/May-2002/Bhupinder.htm
- Shalu
JR
Second question first: The guy who sang for Rishi Kapoor was
Shailendra Singh not Bhupinder. No idea about what he's doing now.
Bhupinder Singh and Bhupendra are the same. I've seen the same guy
referred by these two names on TV at different times and secondly the
voice is too distinctive and easily recognized. I think nowadays he's
mostly heard in ghazal albums with his wife Mitali (Mukherjee?). His
famous filmi songs are: Dil dhoonta hai.. (Mausam); Do diwane is
shaher mein...(Gharonda ?) The reasons for the name change? I don't
know; may be he just gave up correcting the mispronunciation of his
name by non-Punjabis and went with the mainstream pronunciation and
spelling. That has happened with Dharminder before, so it's nothing
new. It's happening with Sukhwinder too. I've seen his name spelled
differently (Sukhwindra) on some movie credits.
JR
Neha
The guy who playbacked for Rishi Kapoor for many lovely songs is Shailendra
Singh. He also came as a hero in one movie with Rekha (AGREEMENT was the name).
He hasnt been singing for some time now...Last I saw him was on the ZEE TV
program on Anu Mallick(got to see Sardar Mallick also). He has become older and
his voice too...
Wish he could have sung more. He had a good style. One of my favorites by him is
'hoga tum se pyaara kaun'...
Hope this helps.
--
Neha
ramaswamy
numbers were from Do Jasoos in which he acted too.He switched to TV
serials.
Regards,
Ramaswamy
giris...@my-deja.com (Girish Bhat) wrote in message news:<670ce6f3.02091...@posting.google.com>...
Ket...@att.net
>http://www.the-south-asian.com/May-2002/Bhupinder.htm
The article in the link above speaks of a long and fruitful Amol
Palekar-Bhupinder association. Frankly, besides the songs in Gharonda, I can't
remember many other Bhupinder songs picturized on Amol Palekar. Are there many
such movies featuring the two?
The article forgets to credit Bhupinder with what is perhaps one of the better
known signature tunes on guitar in HFM--the opening bars of "Chura Liya" from
"Yaadon Ki Baarat"
Ketan
>- Shalu
PS: He is also the guy who yells out "O Shalu" in "Hothon main aisi baat" from
Jewel Thief
Vishal
"shalu" <this_i...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> well well. We are definitely talking about two different persons now.
> But Bhupendra and Bhupinder Singh are one and the same. The singer
> who sang likes of "mai.n shaayar to nahii.n" and
> "hogaa tumase pyaaraa kaun" is Shailendra Singh. Within his limitations
> as a singer he had a reasonable success. He sang for Rishi Kapoor's many
> early movies. RDB continued to use his voice for Rishi - eg. Sagar.
> He also tried his luck at acting - Agreement opposite Rekha and
> Gopichand Jasoos (or was it Do Jasoos?) opposite Zeenat. I think he
> was last heard in Maine Pyar Kiya singing for Laxmikant Berde.
>
Thank you...yes, indeed Shailendra Singh is different from Bhupendra Singh.
The last nice Shailendra Singh song that i heard was " O Meri Jaan" from
Manzil Manzil. He did sing a bit but nothing notable. As for the MPK song, I
remember him singing the "Arey Diwani, Na Kar Naadani" part of "Tum Ladki
ho" for Berde.
Thanks for the info.
Vishal
Girish Bhat
> But Bhupendra and Bhupinder Singh are one and the same. The singer
> who sang likes of "mai.n shaayar to nahii.n" and
> "hogaa tumase pyaaraa kaun" is Shailendra Singh. Within his limitations
Woo hoo! So the wise old gurus of RMIM are capable of screwing up! ;-)
The only reason why I associated the name of Bhupender/Bhupendra with
the voice of Shailendra is because the P-stats for "Hoga Tumsa pyaara kaun"
at the time clearly said it was sung by Bhupendra/Bhupender!
Now even an Anadi like me knew that there was no way that our Ghazal maestro
could be made to sound like that., so I naturally assumed that there were
two Bhupenders. ;-)
Thanks for the clarifications and information.
girish
Devendra Sharma
> Main shayar tho nahi was sung by Shailendra Singh. His more popular
> numbers were from Do Jasoos in which he acted too.He switched to TV
> serials.
> Regards,
> Ramaswamy
I remember a very nice duet by shailendra singh
"purvaiya leke chali meri naiya jane kahan re" shailendrs
also acted in the movie (dont remember the movie name)
regards
devendra
Surjit Singh
Girish Bhat wrote:
> shalu <this_i...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3D85C451...@hotmail.com>...
>
>>well well. We are definitely talking about two different persons now.
>>But Bhupendra and Bhupinder Singh are one and the same. The singer
>>who sang likes of "mai.n shaayar to nahii.n" and
>>"hogaa tumase pyaaraa kaun" is Shailendra Singh. Within his limitations
>>
>
> Woo hoo! So the wise old gurus of RMIM are capable of screwing up! ;-)
I do not consider myself wise, old or guru, but I am always screwing up.
Let us take just one example. The whole world knows that lata sang (up
to) 70,000 songs. Many newspaper articles have said so. Many books have
said so. Many radio/TV announcers have said so. Many RMIM messages have
said so and finally, at least one award-winning (but plagiarized)
website says so. But, I keep insisting that it is not true.
If that's not screwing up, I don't know what is. I admit defeat.
> The only reason why I associated the name of Bhupender/Bhupendra with
> the voice of Shailendra is because the P-stats for "Hoga Tumsa pyaara kaun"
> at the time clearly said it was sung by Bhupendra/Bhupender!
>
> Now even an Anadi like me knew that there was no way that our Ghazal maestro
> could be made to sound like that., so I naturally assumed that there were
> two Bhupenders. ;-)
>
> Thanks for the clarifications and information.
> girish
>
--
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/
SKalra902
>Girish Bhat wrote:
>
>> shalu <this_i...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:<3D85C451...@hotmail.com>...
>>
>>>well well. We are definitely talking about two different persons now.
>>>But Bhupendra and Bhupinder Singh are one and the same. The singer
>>>who sang likes of "mai.n shaayar to nahii.n" and
>>>"hogaa tumase pyaaraa kaun" is Shailendra Singh. Within his limitations
>>>
>>
>> Woo hoo! So the wise old gurus of RMIM are capable of screwing up! ;-)
>
>
>I do not consider myself wise, old or guru, but I am always screwing up.
>
>Let us take just one example. The whole world knows that lata sang (up
>to) 70,000 songs. Many newspaper articles have said so. Many books have
>said so. Many radio/TV announcers have said so. Many RMIM messages have
>said so and finally, at least one award-winning (but plagiarized)
>website says so. But, I keep insisting that it is not true.
Pretty soon, the so called wise, old, guru guys will have really screwed up the
"information" related to the films/film personalities.
I know I have told some of my fellow RMIMers about the wrong year of Mukesh's
death that was broadcast on a radio program a few years ago, by a (NJ)
radio-host who steadfastly refused to announce the corrected year of death! In
the same broadcast, one of the co-hosts announced that "Chal akela chal
akela.." from Sambandh was the 'first and only time' that Mukesh sang for O.P.
Nayyar. Hearing that, I had called the program host again and told him about
the Miss Coca Cola duet of Mukesh with Asha under OPN, upon which his reply was
"But I wasn't even born then!". My retort was music existed long before we all
were born......., but they never rectified their mistakes.
And now, about three weeks ago, another radio station that boasts of a 24/7
Indian/Pakistani music broadcast, put together a Mukesh special (on the day of
his death) and continuously announced that they were celebrating Mukesh's Birth
Anniversary; "aaj ke din unhone iss planet par pehlaa saa.Ns liyaa thha.."!
And of course, they would also not make the corrective announcement on the
radio (after I called and pointed this out to them), because that would be
admitting that they "screwed up" in the first place!
And they are not willing to do their own research either, because the Progream
Director asked me what his actual date of birth was. I told him I would only
furnish the month (which I did - July), and that they should find out the exact
date themselves.
I am giving out the 22nd of July date here so that at least the RMIMers know
about it.
For people who listen to such programs, it is only natural to beleive what is
said on them. Thus, it is the mis-information that becomes 'true' and pesons
like Dr.Surjit Singh are accused of 'screwing up'!
Welcome to the club, Surjit-ji. It does make you wise, and guru. Old, maybe
not, at least not like me. :-)
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
ramaswamy
Tarana,Akhiyon Ke Jhrokhe Se, Agreement, Parvarish,Zahreela
Insaan,Rahi Badal Gaye to name a few.
Regards,
Ramaswamy
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Girish Bhat
> Girish Bhat wrote:
>
> I do not consider myself wise, old or guru, but I am always screwing up.
>
Don't mind us Ramlistanwallahs, Surjitji, we are like this only. ;-)
> Let us take just one example. The whole world knows that lata sang (up
> to) 70,000 songs. Many newspaper articles have said so. Many books have
What? Next you will be telling us that Mohd. Rafi's throat DID NOT
bleed when he sang "O Duniya ke Rakhwalle"!! But seriously, if this bit
of polite fiction has made even 7 Lata Bhakts happy, what's the harm?
Surjit Singh
Girish Bhat wrote:
> Surjit Singh <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3D8730CF...@yahoo.com>...
>
>>Girish Bhat wrote:
>>
>>I do not consider myself wise, old or guru, but I am always screwing up.
>>
>>
>
> Don't mind us Ramlistanwallahs, Surjitji, we are like this only. ;-)
I am like this only too! Why Ramlistan and not Ramli Desh or Ramlipuram?
>
>
>>Let us take just one example. The whole world knows that lata sang (up
>>to) 70,000 songs. Many newspaper articles have said so. Many books have
>>
>
> What? Next you will be telling us that Mohd. Rafi's throat DID NOT
> bleed
Staying on the same topic, I remember reading in a very early issue of
sangiit (early fifties) that when Ravi Shankar first came on a foreign
tour, he spit out paan from his mouth into his paanadaan and the
headline was that while playing an Indian instrument, the performer
performed so intensely that blood oozed from his mouth!
> when he sang "O Duniya ke Rakhwalle"!! But seriously, if this bit
> of polite fiction has made even 7 Lata Bhakts happy, what's the harm?
>
Hema
> And now, about three weeks ago, another radio station that boasts of a 24/7
> Indian/Pakistani music broadcast, put together a Mukesh special (on the day of
> his death) and continuously announced that they were celebrating Mukesh's Birth
> Anniversary; "aaj ke din unhone iss planet par pehlaa saa.Ns liyaa thha.."!
<snipped>
> For people who listen to such programs, it is only natural to beleive what is
> said on them. Thus, it is the mis-information that becomes 'true' and pesons
> like Dr.Surjit Singh are accused of 'screwing up'!
satya-vachan, Kalraji. If you are referring to ebc radio, I have also
noticed a lot of discrepancies in their info announcements. For
example, recently they played the original "jab koi baat biga.D jaaye"
and credited the song to Sonu Nigam and Alka Yagnik!! I recall
another incident where they announced Lata as a singer for an Asha
song. And the most horrifying of all - a Hemlata song was announced
as a "Lataji" song. I don't think they read CD labels.
Now something relevant to this thread - they have been announcing an
upcoming concert - the singers are Bhupender and "Mehtaali", with the
'h' pronounced very distinctly.
Hema.
Ket...@att.net
says...
>song. And the most horrifying of all - a Hemlata song was announced
>as a "Lataji" song. I don't think they read CD labels.
Given the way the P-stats are written on tapes/CD's, I would say they DO read
the CD labels.
Ketan
>Hema.
SKalra902
...snipped....
>And the most horrifying of all - a Hemlata song was announced
>as a "Lataji" song. I don't think they read CD labels.
>Now something relevant to this thread - they have been announcing an
>upcoming concert - the singers are Bhupender and "Mehtaali", with the
>'h' pronounced very distinctly.
>
Yes, and that too in the commercial recorded in the voice of the Program
Director himself, only. The others pronounce her name correctly as Mitaalii.
In another post, Ketan mentioned, " Given the way the P-stats are written on
tapes/CD's, I would say they DO read the CD labels."
Yes, most of us know that HMV/EMI are guilty of not paying enough attention to
this department. But I have yet to see any CD/LP where a Hemlata song would
have been credited to Lata.
I think this situation is created by the various "Yaadein" series from T-series
brought out in the mid-80's, with "version" songs in other singers' voices.
(The radio station that broadcasts only on Saturday mornings once announced the
Kishore Kumar song from Yaaraanaa, "chuu kar mere man ko....", specifically
mentioning his name, but played the Kumar Sanu version.)
But again, I do not know of any Lata song with a Hemlata version.
The only common factor is the last four letters in Hemlata's name.
Maybe the radio station likes four letter words. :-)
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
SKalra902
>Surjit Singh <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:<3D8730CF...@yahoo.com>...
>> Let us take just one example. The whole world knows that lata sang (up
>> to) 70,000 songs. Many newspaper articles have said so. Many books have
>
>What? Next you will be telling us that Mohd. Rafi's throat DID NOT
>bleed when he sang "O Duniya ke Rakhwalle"!! But seriously, if this bit
>of polite fiction has made even 7 Lata Bhakts happy, what's the harm?
>
Does it really make those 7 Lata Bhakts happy! Blind to the facts, maybe, and
that is no reason for happiness. :-)
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Surajit A. Bose
with Neetu Singh. The music was by Usha Khanna, IIRC, and was as
terrible as the movie.
-s
Girish Bhat
>
>
> I am like this only too! Why Ramlistan and not Ramli Desh or Ramlipuram?
>
Left to myself, this would have been Ramligarh. We already have a Jai,
a
viking, a defprofundus, a Satya etc here to rescue us from our
self-choosen cess-pool of ignorance about muslim terrorism, the
onslaught of Western culture etc, etc. We just need a Veeru and a
Basanti now.
But as the supreme potentate of Ramlistan, I do listen to the
suggestions
of my underlings once in a while. Speaking of which, all of you exist
solely for the purpose of MY amusement. Stop Hiding! I COMMAND you to
amuse me with
your usual pathetic and idiotic opinions!
P.S. For those who may be offended, the above is a joke.
Alok
> Left to myself, this would have been Ramligarh. We already have a Jai,
> a viking, a defprofundus, a Satya etc here to rescue us from our
> self-choosen cess-pool of ignorance about muslim terrorism, the
> onslaught of Western culture etc, etc. We just need a Veeru and a
> Basanti now.
I will play Veeru, anyone here who wants to play Basanti? ;-)
<snip>
-Alok
--
Alone, adj.:
In bad company.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Abhay Jain
"Hema" <hn...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Talking of ebc and the new AM station (that used to EBC), they are guilty
of spewing so much ill information, it is mind bogling. I have started
tuning them out.
Regarding reading CD labels, you are just assuming they play from CDs.
Surprise - inside scoop is that they play from online music sites via
computer.
Abhay Jain
SKalra902
>Talking of ebc and the new AM station (that used to EBC), they are guilty
>of spewing so much ill information, it is mind bogling. I have started
>tuning them out.
>Regarding reading CD labels, you are just assuming they play from CDs.
>Surprise - inside scoop is that they play from online music sites via
>computer.
>
>Abhay Jain
>
Tuning them out completely and missing out on whatever other mis-information
they may be spreading (and the opportunity to point it out to them) will be a
dis-service to ourselves and all other music lovers.
Sure, it costs us money to call them and tell them, but we have to bear that.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Surjit Singh
Abhay Jain wrote:
> "Hema" <hn...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:dfec37c.02091...@posting.google.com...
>
>>skal...@aol.com (SKalra902) wrote in message
>>
<STUFF DELETED>
> Talking of ebc and the new AM station (that used to EBC), they are guilty
> of spewing so much ill information, it is mind bogling. I have started
> tuning them out.
> Regarding reading CD labels, you are just assuming they play from CDs.
> Surprise - inside scoop is that they play from online music sites
Hey, they may be using my very low-res digital music, too!
Boy, are the listeners and advertisers being hosed :-) (BTW the smiley
is 20 years old today!)
Unless, of course their listeners don't care for pre-historic music.
> via
> computer.
>
> Abhay Jain
Abhay Jain
"SKalra902" <skal...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >Talking of ebc and the new AM station (that used to EBC), they are guilty
> >of spewing so much ill information, it is mind bogling. I have started
> >tuning them out.
> >Regarding reading CD labels, you are just assuming they play from CDs.
> >Surprise - inside scoop is that they play from online music sites via
> >computer.
> >
> >Abhay Jain
> >
>
> Tuning them out completely and missing out on whatever other
mis-information
> they may be spreading (and the opportunity to point it out to them) will
be a
> dis-service to ourselves and all other music lovers.
>
Tuning out is not because of ill information, but the drive-time programs
are becoming less enjoyable.
Abhay Jain
>
> Satish Kalra