Sanity rock - "sufi music"
asi...@my-deja.com
Article in the Week.
http://www.the-week.com/25may08/cinema_article3.htm
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For all the bouquets, Sufi music evolved over a thorny path in India.
The poetry of the mystics-Amir Khusrau, Hazrat Moinuddin Chishti,
Hazrat Nizamuddin, Kabir and Bulla Shah-did not find many takers
initially. It was mostly heard at the Ajmer Sharif and Nizamuddin
Auliya dargahs. Qawals like Gulam Sabir Nizami carry on the tradition;
Nizami belongs to a family of qawals which has been singing at the
Nizamuddin dargah for 700 years.
He feels singers who have no clue about Sufi gayaki (style of singing)
are exploiting the art for money nowadays. "Real artistes suffer
because of this," says the annoyed qawal. His younger brother, Mohammed
Akbar, joins his brother in recitals.
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Cheers
Arun
V S Rawat
> Hi,
>
> Article in the Week.
>
> http://www.the-week.com/25may08/cinema_article3.htm
>
> ==
> For all the bouquets, Sufi music evolved over a thorny path in India.
> The poetry of the mystics-Amir Khusrau, Hazrat Moinuddin Chishti,
> Hazrat Nizamuddin, Kabir and Bulla Shah-
very Interesting.
Bulle Shah I have heard in "beshaq mandir masjid to.Do"
I have not heard/read anything of the writings of moinuddin
Chishtii nor of nizamuddin.
could anyone please post the links where some writings of
the above three are available.
also, what was the time frame of the three?
Was Bulle Shah also primarily a faith oriented personality?
Where was he located?
> did not find many takers
> initially. It was mostly heard at the Ajmer Sharif and Nizamuddin
> Auliya dargahs. Qawals like Gulam Sabir Nizami carry on the tradition;
> Nizami belongs to a family of qawals which has been singing at the
> Nizamuddin dargah for 700 years.
>
> He feels singers who have no clue about Sufi gayaki (style of singing)
> are exploiting the art for money nowadays. "Real artistes suffer
> because of this," says the annoyed qawal. His younger brother, Mohammed
> Akbar, joins his brother in recitals.
> ===
>
> Cheers
> Arun
>
--
Rawat
irfan
asi...@my-deja.com
One hint about another Bulleh Shah song you've heard. Gulzar took a
composition of his, mauled the lyrics and made your favorite composer
set music to it. The latter did a fabulous job. Finally, Farah Khan had
an inspiring moment when she decided to plonk the hero on top of a
moving train.
Cheers
Arun
asi...@my-deja.com
In the same film, Gulzar took a Ghalib shair and inserted it into
another song. The shair was the maqta of a ghazal. This ghazal was sung
by K. S. Saigal in the film 'Yehudi ki Ladki'
Q. Identify the ghazal
Cheers
Arun
V S Rawat
:)
tai.nuu ishq nachaayaa kar tha_iyaa, tha_iyaa.
thanks. great. I am hooked.
I am going to spend entire weekend reading more of Bulle shah.
--
Rawat
V S Rawat
Thanks Irfan for the link.
I just visited the main few pages.
why do they right his name as "bullhe" Shah in urdu on his page?
--
Rawat
asi...@my-deja.com
Cheers
Arun
asi...@my-deja.com
http://shaurya.spymac.net/Bulla (www.Shaurya.Co.Nr).rmvb
It is a 26 MB file.
Cheers
Arun
Afzal A. Khan
I am sure you know that Irfan Bhai is a very senior RMIMer,
much older than you. He addresses you as "Rawat-ji".
And you address him simply as "Irfan". IMHO, not done.
I am aware that, on NGs, people may not observe such niceties.
Even then.................
As for the spelling of the Sufi saint's name, I think the
Urdu spelling is the correct one.
Afzal
V S Rawat
> On 5/7/05 9:11 AM India Time, _irfan_ wrote:
>
>
>> Rawat ji, visit the w/site www.apnaorg.com where you will
>> find lot of Sufi stuff.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Irfan
This particular site gives the poetry in persian font and in
english translation, hence not much use.
I searched around and found one very interesting info.
given below.
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The original and amazing expression of the above (Chal
chaiyaan, chaiyaan, chaiyaan, chaiyaan) was of none other
than Bulle Shah. Bulla has been shunted out of the dera
(house) of his Kamil Murshid (ultimate guru - who is going
to lead him to the light) Hazrat Shah Inaayat Kadri (aka
Inaayat Shah). The guru doesnt want to see Bulle's face and
is very upset with him on some issue. Bulla cries day and
night and is going crazy in viyog and vichhoda. The fire of
his love for his guru is burning him and he is trying to
find ways to somehow seek his mercy and get back to his
fold. Thats when he remembers his guru's love for music.
Bulla goes and joins a group of nautch girls. Learns to sing
and dance and also to play sarangi. And on the occasion of
an Urs (where he knows his Murshid will be coming) goes to
that mazaar in the guise of a woman and sings and dance.
Thats when and where he says:
Tere Ishq nachaya kar thaiyaa, thaiyaa ( and goes on to add)
Tere ishq ne dera mere andar kita
bhar ke jahar payala mein te aapey pita
jhabde bhaudi ve tabiba nahin te mein mar gaiyan
Tere Ishq nachaya kar thaiyaa, thaiyaa
he further says:
Aisey ishqe di jhangi vich mor (peacock) bullenda
sanu kibla te kaba sohna yaar disenda
sany ghayal karke phir khabar na layeea
Tere Ishq nachaya kar thaiyaa, thaiyaa
---
I also found a mention that
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`Mera piya ghar aaya, ho ram ji', yet again a very poor
adapatation blatantly plagarised from Bulleh Shah's original.
---
Also
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Bulla had written about our Krishna of Braj.
The lines are somewhat like this:
Bansi wallaya chaka ranjha, tera sur sab naal hai sanjha
teriyan moojan saada manjha, saadi surat aap milayee
bansi wallaya kanha kahawen, shabad aneak anoop sunnave
akhiyan de vich nazar na anavey, kaisi bikhadi khed rachiyaa
bansi sab koi sune sunave, arth aheda koi birla pave
jo koi anhad dee sur pave, so is bansi da shaidayee.
---
here is one of the shortest but the ultimate Kafi of Bulle
Shah. It is a very touching description of Master and
disciple relationship where he gives the example of a dog
and is telling himself that even a dog is better than you.
He says Bulle you keep awake all night and pray... so what -
look at the dog (kutta) even he keeps awake all night and
that too at the door of his master but he barks and keeps a
watch for the safety of his Malik (master) and during the
day he finds a place for himself wherever on dirt and
garbage. A dog doesnt leave his master's door even if he is
beaten a hundred times and not given anything to eat. And
last he adds `Bulle Shah quickly find a better way to please
your master, else even a dog is better than you (Taintho Uttey).
Raati jageny kare ibaadat, raati jagan kuttey, taintho uttey
Bhokkan band mool na hundey, ja roodi tey sutey, taintho uttey
Khasam apney da dar na chhad-dey, bhanven vajjan juttey,
taintho uttey
Bulle Shah koi vasat vihaj lai, nahi tey baazi lai gaiy
kuttey, taintho uttey.
now a days some people write the last line as:
`Bulle Shah chal yaar manna lai, nahi tey baazi lai gaiy kuttey'
---
asi...@my-deja.com
V S Rawat wrote:
> ---
> `Mera piya ghar aaya, ho ram ji', yet again a very poor
> adapatation blatantly plagarised from Bulleh Shah's original.
> ---
>
I have the NFAK version of the above where the lyrics do not have "ho
Ramji"
http://www.geocities.com/karachiiterulez/nfak.html has the following
which seem to match the Nusrat version. [I'm looking for a good
translation though.]
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Aoo Ni Sayyo Ral Deyo Ni Wadhai
Men War Paaya Sona Maahi
Gharyaal Deyo Nikalni, Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Oo Laalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Piya Ghar Aaya, Sanu Allah Milaya
Hun Hoya Fazl Kamaalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Aaaa...
Hun Hoya Fazl Kamaalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Oo Laalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Ajj Taan Roz Mubaarak Chaddeya Mahi Mere Vedde Vaddeya
Aaaa...
Oo Laalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Oo Laalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Shakar Wanda Peer Manawa Mera Mahi Mere Vaddeya Kure
Aaa...
Oo Laalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Oo Laalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Ghari Ghari Ghariyal Bajaave, Raen Wasl Di Piya Ghataawe
Mere Munn Di Baat Na Paave, Hathon Ja Sutto Ghariyal Ni
Mera Piya Ghar Aaya Laalni, Mera Piya Ghar Laalni Hoo
Mera Piya Ghar Aaya Laalni, Mera Piya Ghar Laalni Hoo
Anhad Vaaja Vaje Suhaana, Mutarib Sughara Taan Taraana
Bhull Gaya Ay Namaaz Dogaana, Madh Piyaala Dain Kalaal Ni
Oo Laalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Oo Laalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Bulla Shah Di Sej Piyaari, Ni Men Taaran Haarey Taari
Allah Milaya Hun Aayi Vaari, Hun Vicharan Hoya Nuhaal Ni
Mera Piya Ghar Aaya, Oo Laalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
Oo Laalni Mera Piya Ghar Aaya
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Please see the following for more info:
http://qawali.tripod.com/hybridaccents/id15.html
The above site has pdf images from a book.
Cheers
Arun
irfan
Look at this transliteration of Sufi Poetry at the same w/site :
http://www.apnaorg.com/poetry/romanenglish/bullah-r/
Irfan
V S Rawat
A million thanks, Dearest Irfan ji.
I got a good collection of 30 poems by the great writer at
that link.
Searching the net, I also found that Abida Parveen had
released an album "BABA BULLEH SHAH". I checked and it is
available at my cassette waalaa, so I am going to fetch it
tomorrow.
This is the full lyrics for thaiya thaiya from the site.
Looking for some Punjabi knowing guy/ gal to please
translate in english or hindi.
TIA.
--
Rawat
V S Rawat
oops! forgot to paste the lyrics.
here they are
(Poem 5 of 30)
Bahuddin Ve Tabeeba
Bahuddin ve tabeeba maenddi jind gaiya
Tere ishak nachaaya kar thaiya thaiya.
Tere ishak ne dera mere andar keeta,
Bhar ke zehar pyaala maen aape peeta.
Jhhabdey aaveen ve tabeeba nahi te maen mar gaiya
Tere ishak nachaaya kar thaiya thaiya.
Chhupp gaya suraj baahar rahi gaiya laali,
Hovaan maen sadke, mudd je deven vakhaali
Maen bhull gaiya, tere naal na gaiya.
Tere ishak nachaaya kar thaiya thaiya.
Tere ishak di saar ve maen na jaana
Eh sir aaya, eh mera haetth vadaana
Satt payi ishak di te kookaan daiya
Tere ishak nachaaya kar thaiya thaiya.
Es ishak de kolon menu hatak na maaye,
Laahu jaandadde bedde modd kaun hataaye
Meri akal bhulli, naal muhaaneyaan de gaiya.
Tere ishk nachaaya kar thaiya thaiya.
Ais ishak di jhangi vich mor bulenda,
Sahnu kaaba te kibala pyaara yaar dasenda.
Sahnu ghaayal karke pher khabar na laiya.
Tere ishak nachaaya kar thaiya thaiya.
Bulla Shah, Inaayat de bahi boohe,
Jis pahinaaye chole saave te soohe.
Jaa maen maari hai addi mil peya vahiya
Tere ishk nachaaya kar thaiya thaiya
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Animesh Kumar
"ishq par zor nahii.n hai ye wo aatish Ghalib" was inserted in "tuu hii
tuu satara.Ngii re." (Dil Se).
This sher features in "nuktaachii.n hai Gam e dil."
Best
A
asi...@my-deja.com
Cheers,
Arun
Satish Kalra
news:1115668731....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Correct, Animesh.
>
> Cheers,
> Arun
>
Long before Dil Se, that sh'er was inserted into the qawaali "ye ishq ishq
hai ishq ishq..." in Barsaat Ki Raat (1960), with a slight change in the
line as "ishq par zor nahiin hai ye wo aatish fitanaa, ke lagaaye na
lage.....".
--
Happy Listenings.
Satish Kalra
Surjit Singh
Satish Kalra wrote:
> <asi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:1115668731....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Correct, Animesh.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Arun
>>
>
>
> Long before Dil Se, that sh'er was inserted into the qawaali "ye ishq ishq
> hai ishq ishq..." in Barsaat Ki Raat (1960), with a slight change in the
No. It was in another from the same film.
QUIZ: Which one?
Afzal A. Khan
> On 5/9/05 3:04 AM India Time, _irfan_ wrote:
>
>> Look at this transliteration of Sufi Poetry at the same w/site :
>>
>> http://www.apnaorg.com/poetry/romanenglish/bullah-r/
>>
>>
>> Irfan
>>
>
> A million thanks, Dearest Irfan ji.
And thanks to you too, Shri Rawat !
Afzal
Afzal A. Khan
"Ji chaahta hai choom looN apni nazar ko maiN".
But I think the word substituted was not "fitna", but
"tishna". Mirza Musharraf played a characteristic cameo in
the movie as a "poetaster". His taKHallus (in the movie)
was "tishna". When he couldn't come up with a suitable new
sher (in the same metre) in reply to what Shyama and Ratna
were "dishing out", he quietly wrote down this sher for
the other qawwal (KHursheed Bawara). The sher was that of
Ghalib, except that the taKHallus had been substituted.
I am sure somebody who has the audio/VHS cassette of the
movie can verify whether the info given above is correct.
And, if so, a suitable correction needs to be made in the ISB/
Geetaayan websites. Maybe, Shri Vinay Jain is also reading
this thread.
Afzal
Surjit Singh
Afzal A. Khan wrote:
> Surjit Singh wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Satish Kalra wrote:
>>
>>> <asi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1115668731....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> Correct, Animesh.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Arun
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Long before Dil Se, that sh'er was inserted into the qawaali "ye ishq
>>> ishq
>>> hai ishq ishq..." in Barsaat Ki Raat (1960), with a slight change in the
>>
>>
>>
>> No. It was in another from the same film.
>>
>> QUIZ: Which one?
>>
>>> line as "ishq par zor nahiin hai ye wo aatish fitanaa, ke lagaaye na
>>> lage.....".
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> "Ji chaahta hai choom looN apni nazar ko maiN".
>
> But I think the word substituted was not "fitna", but
> "tishna". Mirza Musharraf played a characteristic cameo in
> the movie as a "poetaster". His taKHallus (in the movie)
> was "tishna". When he couldn't come up with a suitable new
> sher (in the same metre) in reply to what Shyama and Ratna
> were "dishing out", he quietly wrote down this sher for
> the other qawwal (KHursheed Bawara). The sher was that of
> Ghalib, except that the taKHallus had been substituted.
And, I think at this point much footwear was thrown in their aamaruKh,
as my (compulsory) NCC NCOs used to say.
Afzal A. Khan
Bad form and all that. But I think this was a mistake.
The correct word and taKHallus was in fact "fitna". Sorry.
Afzal
asi...@my-deja.com
sufi folklore on her blog
http://knownturf.blogspot.com/
Cheers
Arun