Movies with no songs

Ambrish Sundaram

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Dec 14, 1994, 4:15:20 PM12/14/94

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Hi,

I do know that Achanak, *ing Vinod Khanna, was the first Indian movie, or was it
the first Hindi movie, with no songs. Would the netgurus kindly provide the
names of other movies, which similarly, donot contain any songs?

Coming to think of it, I think that there is an old Tamil movie, Andha Naal,
starring Sivaji Ganesan and Pandaribai, which does not contain any songs. Will
some netguru be able to provide the exact details in this regard?

Cheers

Ambrish - asun...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com

P.S. - Please donot mind this paradoxical question on 'non-musical' movies, in
a group discussing indian music.

Reeta Sinha

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Dec 14, 1994, 5:00:00 PM12/14/94

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I'm not a netguru :-)
...but wasn't "Ittefaq" (Rajesh Khanna-Nanda) another movie w/out songs?

reeta

Ramesh VELLANKI

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Dec 14, 1994, 6:42:21 PM12/14/94

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I remember Yaadein starring Sunil Dutt(only sunil dutt), Kanoon.

Ramesh

samir ayachi

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Dec 14, 1994, 7:43:04 PM12/14/94

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I think the old KANOON *ing Ashok Kumar was another movie with no songs - it was an
excellent suspense movie.

Samir.

Srinivasan Rajagopalan

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Dec 15, 1994, 11:40:21 AM12/15/94

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Ambrish Sundaram (asun...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com) wrote:
: Hi,

: Ambrish - asun...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com

:
Hi!
Well i think Achanak is the first Hindi movie with no songs.
While on the subject of movies with no songs - why doesnt conduct a RJGK (or
whatever the acronym is) on Movies with no songs :). If no one minds - I'll
conduct it *GRIN*.

Srini

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Balaji Thirumalaikumara

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Dec 15, 1994, 1:04:09 PM12/15/94

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In article AA2...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com, asun...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com (Ambrish Sundaram) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I do know that Achanak, *ing Vinod Khanna, was the first Indian movie, or was it
>the first Hindi movie, with no songs. Would the netgurus kindly provide the
>names of other movies, which similarly, donot contain any songs?
>
>Coming to think of it, I think that there is an old Tamil movie, Andha Naal,
>starring Sivaji Ganesan and Pandaribai, which does not contain any songs. Will
>some netguru be able to provide the exact details in this regard?
>
>

I was wondering if Aamir's Holi had any songs in it. Similarly
Balu Mahendra's Veedu (which won Archana the Natl award) doesnt have
any song (but buy the sound track which is Illayaraja's How to Name it).
but the sound track is excellent. The best back ground score for any
Indian film in my opinion. Also Ram Gopal Verma's Raat did not have any
songs. Pushpak, of course was also songless. I think that there
are a few Kannada/Malayalam movies that are songless : Tabarane Kathe (K),
Chidambaram (M), Eli Pathayam (M) and maybe Oru CBI Diary Kurippu (M).
Surely there are Ray movies without songs.

Coming to Andanaal, it did not have any songs as you mentioned. I think
that Andhanaal is one of the best movies made in India. It had a great
and interesting plot (SG is a Japanese Spy!!!) and some interesting camera
angles. It was directed by "Veenai" Balachander the famous Carnatic music
exponent and _I_ consider it Shivaji's best performance. A must see.
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Talvinder Chawla (Ricky)

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Dec 15, 1994, 2:58:43 PM12/15/94

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PUSHPAK had no songs

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Ricky

Amin Meghani

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Dec 15, 1994, 3:07:44 PM12/15/94

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interesting to note that VVC's first two movies
don't have any songs, i.e. Sazaye Maut and Khamosh.

--Amin

SANDEEPAN BHATTACHARYA

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Dec 15, 1994, 6:23:25 PM12/15/94

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Nuts

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Dec 15, 1994, 11:52:39 PM12/15/94

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Re: this thread, I've seen it before and here's about
what I posted last time too.
Ek Ruka Hua Faisla
Khamosh
Pushpak (?)
are other movies which have no songs.

Ambrish Sundaram wrote:
: Please donot mind this paradoxical question on 'non-musical' movies, in

: a group discussing indian music.

Not at all! This has a first derivative to music. I think it is relevant.
Actually, there might be something to learn here. It takes some guts to not
include a song or two (or a dozen) in a movie because that means you won't
earn some big bucks on cassette sales. Also that means that the only
saleable items you have are the acting and the plot. A great plot does not
make the average movie-goer hum it for days and days so it's quickly
outtasite, outtamind. Great acting might be imprinted for a longer time but
does not carry the appeal of songs. So I can see why producers are tempted
to have lots of cutesy songs in a movie but these movies starkly bring out
the opposite - if songs are not necessary to further the plot, don't use
them!

Srinivasan Rajagopalan writes:
: why doesnt conduct a RJGK on Movies with no songs :). If no one minds
: I'll conduct it *GRIN*.

I think you should go for it. RJGK-17 on movies with no songs then? That
will be the "Silence is golden" RJGK... *grin* Are background scores
counted in or counted out? Y'know Srini, if somehow you pull this off,
maybe I'll bow to you... ((:

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Modena Software

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Dec 15, 1994, 8:38:38 PM12/15/94

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In this context I remember a movie by Sunil Dutt in which he is
the only actor, i.e does a solo act. Pretty boring! That is also
a first I guess. Incidentally that movie had no songs in it.

-Kalyan

Santosh Maskeri

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Dec 16, 1994, 8:25:40 AM12/16/94

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Vidhu Vinod Chopra's second movie 'Khamosh' did not have any songs. I am
not sure if his 'Saza-e-Maut' also was in this category.

--- Santosh

bd2...@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu

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Dec 15, 1994, 1:33:46 PM12/15/94

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Reeta Sinha (li...@unix.cc.emory.edu) wrote:

: I'm not a netguru :-)

: ...but wasn't "Ittefaq" (Rajesh Khanna-Nanda) another movie w/out songs?

: reeta

I know one more film Ek rooka huwa faisala ...I don't know the
director( I think Basu Chatterji) but Punkaj Kapoor has acted in this movie.

Vinod Arekar

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Dec 16, 1994, 11:21:35 AM12/16/94

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KHAMOSH??

vinod

SANDEEPAN BHATTACHARYA

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Dec 16, 1994, 11:42:44 AM12/16/94

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Hi!

KHAMOSH, Directed by Vidhu Vinod Chopra (PARINDA, 1942:ALS), starring
Naseeruddin Shah, Amol Palekar, Shabana Azmi etc., was a
real slick Hollywood style murder mystery with no songs.

EK RUKA HUA FAISLA, Directed by Basu Chatterjee, Starring Pankaj Kapoor,
was another movie (telefilm?) without songs. It was a remake of
the courtroom drama 12 ANGRY MEN and was pretty good too.

- Sandeepan.

Vinod Arekar

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Dec 16, 1994, 12:40:54 PM12/16/94

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What is RMIM? What's the first M? Music? Movies?
Well, let there be one posting without reference
to that! Obviously this posting has already failed!
This posting failed to do that not just because of the
previous line... but also because of the rest of the
posting..

Here's a small quiz on "who sang this in the movie"?
Combining both M&M...

All you have to tell is the name of the actress/actor who
moved lips for the song...

Please e-mail your entries to me, do not post any answer(s) here.

Thank you. Enjoy the quiz...

Vinod Arekar

-------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Mehbooba mehbooba
[film: Sholay]

2. Ang lag ja baalmaa
[film: Mera Naam Joker. This actress was the only
repeated RK-heroine (RK in RK-Productions) other than Nutan]

3. Mud mud ke na dekh
[This actress was Jewish, my roommate told me recently.
He might be wrong -- does that help??]

4. Chhotisi yeh zindagani re Char din ki jawani teri
[yet another question from RK movie! The scene is
that this Tangewala is singing, and RK is sitting
in the Tanga (or is it Bailgadi? Doesn't matter) --
The singer is Mukesh]

5. Maine rakha hai muhabbat apne afsaane ka naam
[film: Shabnam. This actor was essentially a comedian,
and this type of song is not very common for him!]

6. Jeevan ke safar mein raahi milte hain bikhar jaane ko {FEMALE}
[film: Munimji. The male version is picturized on Dev Anand]

7. Galyaant saankhli sonyachi hi pori konaci
[film: DHKMN. This lamp is safe!! :-) ]

8. Nagma-o-sher ki saugaat kise pesh karoon
[This woman was dress-designer for a very famous movie which
Ghulam Mohammed partly composed music of. This song is NOT
from that movie]

9. Ab jo mile hain to mujhko nigahon mein rehne de saajna
[film: Caravan]

10. Jata kahan hai deewane
[film: CID. This song is not featured in the mid-80's
re-released version of the film. It was probably not there
even in the original (mid-50's), but the song is there on
the record. Since I don't expect you to have seen this
song in the movie, an educated guess is what's expected]

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Vinod Arekar

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Dec 16, 1994, 3:18:30 PM12/16/94

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I forgot about the deadline!
Coming Friday, 23 December.

Vinod Arekar

prakash chandra

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Dec 17, 1994, 12:41:12 AM12/17/94

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In article <modenaD0...@netcom.com>, mod...@netcom.com (Modena Software) writes:

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Yaa, i guess it was YADEN. That movie had only one actor. It might sound boring at the first instant, but I think it was a pretty good movie.

Prakash

Santosh Maskeri

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Dec 17, 1994, 3:02:52 PM12/17/94

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Jaane bhi do yaron.., was another such movie. In that some Nasseruddin and
Ravi Baswani hum the song ' Hum honge kaamyaab... ek din...' But, it is
not there as a full song. I do not remember properly, did 'Koshish'
(Sanjiv Kumar, Jaya Bhaduri) have any songs ?

--- Santosh

Mihir Desai

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Dec 18, 1994, 9:36:29 AM12/18/94

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''Ittefaq'' with Rajesh Khanna and Nanda was another movie with no songs.
I remember it was a suspense film only about 2 hours long.

Mihir Desai.

Dev Alok

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Dec 18, 1994, 3:13:25 PM12/18/94

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In article <941214211...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com>, asun...@eccdb1.pms.ford.com (Ambrish Sundaram) writes:

>Hi,
>
>I do know that Achanak, *ing Vinod Khanna, was the first Indian movie, or was it
>the first Hindi movie, with no songs. Would the netgurus kindly provide the
>names of other movies, which similarly, donot contain any songs?

Me no netguru but will take a stab at it. I think netgurus have
written quite a few movies by now. But nobody mentioned Raakh so far.
Was there any song in that movie.

Modena Software

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Dec 19, 1994, 2:23:35 AM12/19/94

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In this context I remember a film a by K.A. Abbas. It was his first
film made in the pre-independence days. It was the first hindi film
to have got a major international award. I am not sure, but I think
it had the word "Hindustani" in the title. Its prints got burnt and
the could never be released in India. And yes the film had no songs.
Does anybody know more about the film?

TIA,
Kalyan

Preetham Gopalaswamy

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Dec 21, 1994, 3:07:29 PM12/21/94

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In article <smaskeri-1...@santoshmaskeri-322494.worldbank.org>, smas...@worldbank.org@internet (Santosh Maskeri) writes:
>I do not remember properly, did 'Koshish'
>(Sanjiv Kumar, Jaya Bhaduri) have any songs ?

Yes it does (atleast 1 that I remember). The film had music by Salil and
there is a song when their blind friend sings on the beach describing the
sunset or some such thing.

Preetham