Pankaj
>Pankaj
They are not supposed to mean anything! The lyrics are just what you wrote -
Bolo ta ra ra ra.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Pankaj, were you asking the meaning of the words 'bolo ta-ra ra-ra' or
for the whole song? :)
In either case, I won't be able to help. However let me take this
occasion to talk about the Daler Mehndi concert I recently saw.
It had been advertised as a Daler Mehndi, Raveena Tandon, Altaf Raja
concert. Altaf Raja, for those who don't know, sings occasionally in
films. His primary claim to fame is his non-film album called 'tum
to Thehre pardesi' which was released fairly close to the Raja
Hindustani/pardesi-pardesi song and which had become really popular in
India. He tries to stay in the filmi-qawwaali genre and has a fairly
qawwal-like high-pitched voice. There was also AnuM who came in and
sang the title song from Jaanam Samjha Karo and a medley and then
disappeared for the rest of the evening.
Altaf Raja sang a couple of songs. One film song from a Mithun-Jackie
starrer and a few non-film ones including the title track from the
above named album. Since he is probably more popular in India, and few
over here would've heard of him, he wasn't given a terribly warm
reception by the audience. He also didn't seem to have a winning
stage presence.
I remember people asking earlier what film stars did when they come
for their shows. In Raveena's case, she danced a whole lot to an
assorted medley of her songs along with some accompanying dancers
and a few complete songs. Songs like Kisi "disco" meN jaayeN (Bade
Miyan Chote Miyan), Kaale kaale baal gaal gore gore/ Ajay(?),
Shaher ki laD.kii/Krishna etc. Her dances came in 2-3 spurts and then
she would retire to catch her breath. She did not do Tu cheez baD.ii
hai mast mast/Mohra which was interesting (more on this later). She
did not recite dialogs from her films. Barely said 5-6 sentences.
She did sing a couple of lines from the kaale kaale baal song. But
she was still panting from the exertions. Still she seemed to do ok
and held the simple tune correctly.
Now, having dispensed with the others, let's come back to Daler Mehndi.
I hadn't heard too many songs by him. Maybe 3 songs. I had heard
'bolo ta-ra ra-ra' at somebody's place and got to know about Daler
for the first time. After that there was Mrityudaata's song Na-na na-na
na-re na-re na which I thoroughly enjoyed in an abominable film.
Very energetic and definitely foot-tapping kind, I call it. Then,
in India, I came to know the title song of his next album called
Ho Jayegi Balle Balle. The title song which goes 'ho gaii terii
balle balle, ho jaa'egii balle balle'(??) was in ads on TV almost
constantly. Again, infectiously catchy stuff. And these three songs
were all I knew about Daler Mehndi.
So, I was prepared for some frothy bhangra numbers and little else.
Daler and his troupe changed that. Firstly the musical troupe that came
seems to have been primarily part of Daler's side of things. They
played adequately enough for the others but during each time that Daler
returned to the stage, they would first try to adjust the instruments
back to the proper levels. There was the dhol and the dholak, a Ustad
Shamsher Singh on the tabla (anybody famous??), another "sardar" at
the synth, and one whose sole job was the chorus. The other sardars
also sang back-up parts. The pugrees (turbans) were as colorful as the
way the magazine articles had described them. And so were Daler's
robes which he changed whenever he took a break.
I was simply blown away by the "jamming" nature of the whole
performance. The rapport that the troupe shared with each other and
the perfect timing between them was simply amazing! Especially
considering that his performance was more like a "jam session". He
flitted from one song to the next and had a full complete song only
two or three times.
Also, he wasn't limiting himself to only his songs. He would sing
anything that *seemed natural*. I saw him flitting in the most natural
manner from Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan's "Ali da malang", "Ali dum mast
Qalandar", "AnkhiyaaN uD.eek diyaaN" to Indian Film Music ones like
"hawa meN uD.ta jaa'e", "shaam dhale" to the Hum Kisise Kum Naheen
trilogy (tho' he didn't do it back to back) to the "pyaar hameN kis
moD. pe le aaya" song to the recent "ik punjaaban ... soNNa soNNa"
hit. Lots of songs from the 50s to 90s made an appearance intermixed
with punjabi songs that I had never heard. The punjabi songs might
have been his or more traditional ones - I don't know.
Normally, I am very averse to artistes doing cover versions (Especially
ppl like KSanu, SonuN). I would differentiate between these and Daler
singing Film songs. I also dislike remixes in general - with their
assorted beats, 'ooh-aah's and other digital sounds *mix*ed with the
the original tune and instruments. It destroys the original imo. I
would again differentiate between these and Daler's performance. Think
about it this way - suppose you went to some different part of India
and found a folk singer who used the 'folk style' and sang "hawaa
meN uD.ta jaa'e". The tune would be similar but the presentation
would be different, the accent different, the stress on various
consonants and vowels different. I found it very appealing to hear
him sing in a 'bulund' Punjabi voice, accompanied by the Dhol some
of the songs that I so like.
He sang *a lot*. I would say that in a four and a half hour program,
he sang for more than three hours. His voice seemed hoarser than normal
by the end of it. It was all *live*. At no point, did I feel that
a recording was being used. And his troupe had an instinctive grasp
of what he was going to sing. Sometimes he would sing just the antara
of a particular hindi film song, move on to a punjabi song, come back
to something like 'samundar meN nahaakar'(title song - RDB) and
suddenly find him singing 'hoga tumse pyaara kaun' (Zamane ko
dikhana hai) and then go back to a punjabi song. In between he would
dance. Dunno who his choreographer is, but I haven't seen such
innovative
steps. They are not the normal bhangra steps, but equally energetic and
I would say a treat to watch. So in the intervening music he might do
a frenetic 7-step and then suddenly burst into a different song.
The troupe followed him without missing a beat! It has to be the most
professional and well-rehearsed job that I've seen at any concert.
And it satisfies the ultimate test - it didn't *seem* over-rehearsed.
Also, he seemed to take care about not breaking into one of his weird
dance routines in a song wth devotional content. Maybe that is the
reason for not having Raveena do 'tu cheez baD.ii hai'. At the end of
the concert, Raveena and Daler danced for a song which they just
lip-synced. Frankly, I wish they hadn't. Daler's dancing is not one
that can be matched by anybody of the opposite sex. Too energetic. He
culminated the program asking everybody to sing a modified version
of the Pakistani song 'dil dil pakistan' changing it to
'dil dil pakistan jaaN jaaN hindustaan' in an appeal for better
cross-border relations. In fact, his first song also talked about
Lahore. Can't remember what the words were, tho'.
I would definitely recommend it to everybody. However, be warned, the
audience does get a li'l rambunctious and prone to break out into
wild dancing on his more racy numbers. Also the sound might be a
little on the loud side. I recommend retreating to the last row and
watching him perform. If moved by the muse, you might want to jump
into the crowd in front, to do your own original 5-step. The unmoved
music lover can take pleasure in an artiste who is clearly enjoying
what he is doing, and who is also doing it remarkably well. For
somebody who went to see the concert merely for curiosity's sake,
I can't believe that I enjoyed it so much.
Later,
Ikram.
nirav
> I remember people asking earlier what film stars did when they come
> for their shows. In Raveena's case, she danced a whole lot to an
> assorted medley of her songs along with some accompanying dancers
> and a few complete songs. Songs like Kisi "disco" meN jaayeN (Bade
> Miyan Chote Miyan), Kaale kaale baal gaal gore gore/ Ajay(?),
> Shaher ki laD.kii/Krishna etc.
Correction time -
A nettor corrected me -
Kaale kaale baal is from Ziddi.
Shaher ki laD.kii is from Rakhshak.
I believe that I have a Rakshak/Krishna cassette that I got from
India which might've led to the error. However, the error is still
of the somewhat egregious kind since Krishna & Ajay starred a
more-established rival, KarismaK. Also, in stores in the US, I've
rarely come across a double cassette (with one film on one side and
another on the other). These cassettes are fairly common in India.
Why is this?
Raveena seems to have a lot of movies coming out with Govinda. I
noticed quite a few cassettes of their films at the audio shops.
Also in the medley, I noticed quite a few songs where Shweta Shetty
was singing for Raveena, some of them which I hadn't heard
previously. Which leads to a question - 'kisii disco meN jaayeN' is
sung by UditN and AlkaY. However, there is a portion where a voice
does a 'uNh uNh' grunt (not like the Monica Seles ones, tho' :) ).
Seemed very much like ShwetaS to me. It might have been that the
song was originally recorded with Shweta and then the MDs decided
to go with AlkaY. These kind of over-recordings seem to be fairly
common these days. And sometimes both versions get released on
cassette!
Later,
Ikram.
Actually, I meant the song, not just that line.
Pankaj
"she doesnt patronize the better vehicles ("gaddi") but eagerly jumps onto
the mule ("tattoo") of a bachelor."
Send me the whole song and I'll translate it all. This was all I remembered
except the visions of the gorgeous sikhnis in the video.
Pankaj Kakkar <pan...@gradient.cis.upenn.edu> wrote in message
news:36FB8822...@gradient.cis.upenn.edu...
>
> occasion to talk about the Daler Mehndi concert I recently saw.
Ikram, that was an extremely enjoyable post on the Daler Mehndi concert.
Makes me wish I'd seen it. What you describe about your reactions to his
stage performance is much like what I've experienced listening to his songs
over a period of time; one tends to like them in spite of one's initial
resistance. Daler's appeal is interesting partly because it's so unexpected.
I think a lot of it has to do with the complete lack of pretensiousness in
his style. And he certainly avoids the rather irritating ultra-westernized
efforts of many of his contemporaries. His artistic persona is
unapologetically Punjabi without being aggressive, and though he doesn't have
earth-shattering singing abilities, he's certainly has lots of good tunes,
great rhythms, and loads of style. What clinches it is that he's original.
I've also happened to watch him in television interviews. Comes across as
engaging, forthcoming, very realistic about his talents. Doesn't brag, yet
doesn't sound unnecessarily servile either.
>
> It had been advertised as a Daler Mehndi, Raveena Tandon, Altaf Raja
> concert. Altaf Raja, for those who don't know, sings occasionally in
> films. His primary claim to fame is his non-film album called 'tum
> to Thehre pardesi'
Ho hum... This one song played continuously in every public forum in Delhi
for one whole year. It's a low-brow qawwali, quite catchy, but unlistenable
to after a couple of hears. All in all, he should have sung only this song
and stopped forever.
> In Raveena's case, she danced a whole lot to an
> assorted medley of her songs along with some accompanying dancers
> and a few complete songs. Songs like Kisi "disco" meN jaayeN (Bade
> Miyan Chote Miyan.
She does this song a lot in stage shows, if you've noticed. I find the song
very well put together, and the "uNh uNh", as you put it, quite charmingly
audacious, somewhat in the genre of the "ha aaa" of "chunri sambhaal gori."
[As an aside, I must add that the film "Bade Miyan Chhote Miyan" was the
funniest, most entertaining caper I've seen in a long time, due mostly to
Govinda. The film didn't have the time to pay even momentary lip-service to
sentiment; no maa/betaa, no dost/dost, no bhai/bhai, nothing. Just mad,
frantic, racy comic activity!] The song you mention seems to be the most
popular one, but there are two others that are worth mentioning. One is the
title song, a catchy, noisy package of collective singing, which worked quite
well in the film; the other is really very good,"detaa jai jore dilada, deta
jai jo re/badle mein pyaar hamaara letaa jai jore, pyaar letaa jai jore";
there was a post on this song a few months ago, which I'm afraid I don't
remember too well, but I think it mentioned that the song is based on a
popular Gujarati(?) folk tune. Again, the orchestration is noisy and busy,
but the tune is really nice. A better soundtrack, even if for these three
songs, than that juvenile and predictable Kucch Kucch Hota Hai.
Roopa
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