Tamil versions of Hindi songs in 50s and 60s
S.Jagadish
heard a song sung by the renowned Carnatic vocalist, ML Vasanthakumari. But
that was not the point, the song was "Konjum Puraave" (dunno which movie) and
it was THE SAME as "Thandi Hawaayen" by Lata. Earlier I'd also heard a Tamil
version (sung by I think AM Rajah and ??) of "Maang Ke Saath Tumhaara" (Rafi
and ??). I've heard such tunes many times before. It makes me wonder if just as
now ppl like Anand Milind, Nadeem S, Anu Malik etc. copy tunes from Tamil films
and port them onto Hindi films, was the revers happening in the late 50s, 60s
period ? Anyone to clarify ?
Other such songs heard : Tamil version of "Chaahe Koi Mujhe Junglee" sung by
S.Janaki, Tamil version of "Jaayen To Jaayen Kahaan" sung by 'Sirkazhi'
Govindarajan !
Jagadish
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Senthil K Kandasamy
|> I was listening to the local Indian radio station a yesterday when I suddenly
|> heard a song sung by the renowned Carnatic vocalist, ML Vasanthakumari. But
|> that was not the point, the song was "Konjum Puraave" (dunno which movie) and
|> it was THE SAME as "Thandi Hawaayen" by Lata. Earlier I'd also heard a Tamil
|> version (sung by I think AM Rajah and ??) of "Maang Ke Saath Tumhaara" (Rafi
|> and ??). I've heard such tunes many times before. It makes me wonder if just as
|> now ppl like Anand Milind, Nadeem S, Anu Malik etc. copy tunes from Tamil films
|> and port them onto Hindi films, was the revers happening in the late 50s, 60s
|> period ? Anyone to clarify ?
|>
|> Other such songs heard : Tamil version of "Chaahe Koi Mujhe Junglee" sung by
|> S.Janaki, Tamil version of "Jaayen To Jaayen Kahaan" sung by 'Sirkazhi'
|> Govindarajan !
|>
|> Jagadish
|
but a lot of songs by A.M.Raja are not original...The tunes were lifted from
Hindi....I believe it was a unwritten rule that each movie must have atleast
one song with a popular Hindi tune. MSV was supposedly an exception to this...
other songs that come to my mind now are
Tasveer tere dil mein (Rafi + Lata...movie Maya) is
Nilavo .....not sure , rendered by by TMS
O mere sonarE.....(Rafi+ Asha, Teesri Manzil )
Nerukku Ner...bla bla.....from some Jaishankar movie
Dil pukarE, aare, aare...(Rafi +Lata , JewelThief)
Naanaththaale, kangal minna minna ...or something like that...again, a Jai movie
Jab Jaag uthE armaan......(Hemanth, Bin baadal Barsaat)
do not remember the Thamizh lyrics......
That's all i can remember now....but there are tons more, i am sure
Senthil
S.Jagadish
"Naina Barse" by Lata made into Tamil as "Naane Naana" or something like that
sung by Susheela/Janaki
Balaji C Krishnan
> I also remembered another ...
>
> "Naina Barse" by Lata made into Tamil as "Naane Naana" or something like that
> sung by Susheela/Janaki
"Naina Barse" by Lata became "Naane Varuven" by PS I guess. "Naane Naana"
is not even close to that tune. This song came much later and is from the
film "Azhage Unnai Aradhikkiren".
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Latha Raja
khilte hain gul yahan from sharmeeli - Radhaiyin nenjame .....
sapna mera toothth gayaa from khel khel mein? - don't remember the tamil
lyrics.
There is a Hindi song with the same tune as the tamil song "konji konji
pesi mathi ...."
Latha Raja
The song "Yenni yenni parka manam inbam kondaathuthe.." has a similar tuned
song in Hindi..I only remember the line after this "pehli mulaaqaat hai yeh
pehli mulaaqat hai"
Rajagopalan Kannan
[..]
>
> O mere sonarE.....(Rafi+ Asha, Teesri Manzil )
> Nerukku Ner...bla bla.....from some Jaishankar movie
>
> Dil pukarE, aare, aare...(Rafi +Lata , JewelThief)
> Naanaththaale, kangal minna minna ...or something like that...again, a Jai movie
>
> That's all i can remember now....but there are tons more, i am sure
>
music director. He was notorious for "lifting Hindi tunes". You could pick
any Modern Theatres movie in that era and will find Hindi tunes.
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Latha Raja
There should be many more
Karthikeyan Madathil
S> I also remembered another ...
S> "Naina Barse" by Lata made into Tamil as "Naane Naana" or something like that
S> sung by Susheela/Janaki
I remember hearing a Tamil song with the same tune as 'Neele Neele Ambar
Par' on a bus ride from Pazhani to Coimbatore ages ago. Try as I may, I
can't remember the lyrics.
Also, I believe there's a tamil version of "O raat ke musaafir, chanda
zaraa bataa de", picturized on Gemini Ganesh. Anyone know the lyrics?
Karthik
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Kuntal Shah
Latha> The song "Yenni yenni parka manam inbam kondaathuthe.." has
Latha> a similar tuned song in Hindi..I only remember the line
Latha> after this "pehli mulaaqaat hai yeh pehli mulaaqat hai"
Hindi song you mean is probably :
Chup chup khaDE ho zaroor koi baat hai
pehli mulakat hai ye pehli mulakat hai
A really swwt song. PSTATS ??
-Kuntal.
Jairaj, Vinod
Some of the songs made into Tamil from Hindi (or vice-versa)
1. Gore Gore, from Samadhi, composed by C.Ramachandra. In Tamil, it was
Aiyya saami......
2. Qusoor aapka from Bahar, composed by S.D.Burman. In Tamil, it goes
Onakkaage, ellam onakkaage
3. Jhoome jhoome dil mera, from Poonam, composed by Shankar-Jaikishen. I
don't know the equivalent in Tamil.
4. Meethi meethi baaton se, from Qaidi # 911, composed by Dattaram. In
Tamil, it is Konji konji......
5. Appalam, appalam, from Azad, composed by C.Ramachandra. I don't know
the equivalent in Tamil, though the movie is Malai Kallan.
6. Chotti si yeh zindagani, from Aah, composed by Shankar-Jaikishen. I
don't know the Tamil version.
Of the above, I think only #4 was first released in Tamil, the
others being lifted from Hindi.
More later,
Vinod
Sreenivas Paruchuri
: 2. Qusoor aapka from Bahar, composed by S.D.Burman. In Tamil, it goes
: Onakkaage, ellam onakkaage
: 5. Appalam, appalam, from Azad, composed by C.Ramachandra. I don't know
: 6. Chotti si yeh zindagani, from Aah, composed by Shankar-Jaikishen. I
: don't know the Tamil version.
: Of the above, I think only #4 was first released in Tamil, the
: others being lifted from Hindi.
Bahar was n't first released in Hindi, but Tamil and Telugu. The music
director for the original Tamil/Telugu version (simultaneously made like most
of the AVM films) was R. sudarSanam.
Yes, Azad is an original Hindi production. I am n't aware of the Tamil
version you mentioned above. But, the same tune was later copied by
ghanTasaala in "maayaa bazaar" (1957, Azad was released in '55, right?).
Aah was dubbed in to Telugu and Tamil in the same year, i.e., 1953 by Raj
Kapoor himself. It was considered as a "test" film to enter in to the BIG
south-Indian film market. In Telugu it was released under the title "prEma
lEkhalu" (=Love letters), and did n't do well at the box office, though
all the nine songs were big hits, sung by A.M. raajaa, and jikki. The tunes
were the same Hindi ones. These nine songs today are collectors items. So,
the failure in south India put a break for Raj Kapoor's (ambitious ?) plans
and he never made/dubbed a film in to south Indian languages himself. Could
some one tell me who was the dialogues and lyrics writer for Tamil version.
In Telugu it was the well known poet "aarudra", who made a good name with
that film. BTW, the above Mukesh solo goes like "paaDu jeevitamO yavvanammO
moonnaaLLa bratukOyi ..." in Telugu. Would like to know all the nine songs in
Telugu :-)!
Regards,
Sreenivas
Latha Raja
Thanks for starting off the song. A really cute song in both languages.
As far as I remember, "Ilaya nila" is not from "Ninaivellam Nithya"
which starred Karthik and GG. "Ilaya nila" was sung by SPB as background
for Mohan.
Kuntal Shah
S> was the fella who copied it into Hindi (Kalaakaar, isnt it ?
S> The song features on almost every RJGK/Chitrahaar etc. nowadays
S> :-))
K-A.
Pavan Kumar Desikan
singers : Lata and Premlatha
MD : Husnlal Bhagatram
Movie : Badi Behen
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Jairaj, Vinod
Just got another song dubbed into Tamil from Hindi (I'm sure of it!!!)
Song: Milti hi aankhen
Film: Babul
Year of release: 1949
Singers: Talat and Shamshad
MD: Naushad
Lyrics: Shakeel Badayuni
In Tamil,
Song: Poruley....
Film: Parasakthi
Year of release: 1951
Singers:????
MD:????
Lyrics:????
Vinod
Govindhan Padmavijayam
beaut!
Govind.
sri...@imap1.asu.edu
: > As far as I remember, "Ilaya nila" is not from "Ninaivellam Nithya"
: > which starred Karthik and GG. "Ilaya nila" was sung by SPB as background
: > for Mohan.
: Whoops ... lousy error ... sorry on my part ! Wat film is it then ?
payanangal mudivathillai
sriram
Karthikeyan Madathil
S> U just happened to hear the original of Neele Neele Ambar
S> ... from Ninaivelaam Nithya (I think), "Ilaya Nila" by SPB and
S> music by Ilayaraja. Fabulous score ... how much ever I prefer
S> Kishore over SPB, the music by Raja takes the cake ! Btw who
Fabulous score, indeed. Fascinating to know that it was copied from Tamil
into Hindi. The Hindi lyrics fit the tune surprisingly well. Normally,
the more melodious southern tunes have a problem with the rythm of hindi
words. Score one for Ilayaraja!
S> was the fella who copied it into Hindi (Kalaakaar, isnt it ?
S> The song features on almost every RJGK/Chitrahaar etc. nowadays
S> :-))
Anybody remember the Tamil counterpart of "O raat ke musafir" ?
Karthik
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S.Jagadish
> which starred Karthik and GG. "Ilaya nila" was sung by SPB as background
> for Mohan.
Whoops ... lousy error ... sorry on my part ! Wat film is it then ?
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Senthil K Kandasamy
|> yeah, there are plenty more of such songs, even in more recent times.
|>
|> khilte hain gul yahan from sharmeeli - Radhaiyin nenjame .....
|> sapna mera toothth gayaa from khel khel mein? - don't remember the tamil
|> lyrics.
|>
|> There is a Hindi song with the same tune as the tamil song "konji konji
|> pesi mathi ...."
|>
Remembered a few more...
Sau saal pahle, mujhe tumse pyar tha (jpkhh....raf + lata)
in Tamil:
Manam ennum medai meedhu.....something something....
The Song
Nirbhal se ladai....(from Diya aur Toofan? by Manna De has a Tamil version too
Even Ina mina dika has a Tamil version to it....
Senthil
Snehal B. Oza
> Hindi song you mean is probably :
> Chup chup khaDE ho zaroor koi baat hai
> pehli mulakat hai ye pehli mulakat hai
> A really swwt song. PSTATS ??
>-Kuntal.
Chhup Chhup Khade Ho Jaroor Koi Baat Hai - Badi Bahan (Film)
Singers: LataMangeshkar, Premlata
Lyrics: Kamar Jalalabadi
Music: Pt. Husnalal Bhagatram
A 1949 film.
Snehal
sri...@imap1.asu.edu
: > : > As far as I remember, "Ilaya nila" is not from "Ninaivellam Nithya"
: > : > which starred Karthik and GG. "Ilaya nila" was sung by SPB as background
: > : > for Mohan.
: Wasnt Karthik in Payanangal ? I thot that was his 1st film ... cud be wrong
: though !
nope. mohan, poornima jayaram, s v sekhar et al acted in that movie.
all the songs are very good.
sriram
K. Rajaraman
(Saw this thread pretty late...)
Clarification about "Naina burse": Tamil version is "Naane varuven"
sung by Susheela. Film is "Yaar Nee" starring Jai shankar and
Jayalalitha(dual role). (should i add "Amma" before the name :) )
As someone pointed out, Modern theatre movies are definite bets
to trace many tamil versions of hindi songs, especially
"Vallavan oruvan" and "Vallavanukku vallavan". (many more)
Just to digress a bit: after the Modern theatres' Veda, our
man Deva is trying now "revive" the old trend, i guess...
In the film "Vishnu", he has gone one step ahead and `downloaded'
"Akiyan milao" from Raja as
Thottabetta mela oru mutta parotta..
odivanthu unna koncham katti kollatta..
:))))
-R.
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> "Naina Barse" by Lata became "Naane Varuven" by PS I guess. "Naane Naana"
> is not even close to that tune. This song came much later and is from the
> film "Azhage Unnai Aradhikkiren".
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