All time great ghazals
Hemant
time best sung ghazals.. (not in any order)
Dil-e-nadaan tujhe hua kya hai (sung so well by Talat saab for film
Mirza Ghalib and equally well by Chitra for the TV serial)
Har ek baat pe kehte ho tum ki tu kya hai (Ghalib/Jagjit)
Ranjish hi sahii (Mehdi Hasan)
Awaargi (Ghulam Ali)
Chupke chupke (Ghulam Ali, also in film Nikah)
Patta patta boota boota (Mir Taqi Mir.. sung by Mehdi)
Sunte hain ki mil jaati hai har cheez dua se (Wali Mohammad)
Itni muddat baad mile ho (Mehdi Hasan)
Yeh daulat bhi lelo (Faakir-Jagjit)
Tumko dekha to yeh khayal aaya (best among modern ghazals)
Justazoo jiski thi usko to na paaya humne (Umrao jaan)
Kal chaudhwee ki raat thi (Ibn-e-Insha/ sung in different ways by
almost all singers)
Dil dhoondh ta hai (by arguably best modern shayar Gulzaar saab)
Seene mein jalan aankhon mein toofan (Gulzar/Wadekar)
Mera kuch samaan tumhare paas rakha hai (Filmed on guess who..
Anuradha Patel!)
Hothon se choo lo tum (Jagjit)
Zindagi mein to sabhi pyaar kiya kate hain (Mehdi)
Chal mere saath tu chal (Hussein brothers... boy do they sing well!)
Is mode se jaate hain kuch susth kadam raste (Gulzar/Kishore/Lata)
You want to add/remove some?
Hemant.
Sathya
HABIBWALI MOHD :
Ashiyan jal gaya gulsitan lut gaya
Deewaron se baatein karna acha lagta hai
Lagta nahi hai jee mera
Kab mera nashe man ehle chaman
FARIDA KHANUM:
Aaj jane ki zid na karo
Woh ishq jo humse rooth gaya
TALAT MAHMOOD :
(Film)
Sham-e-gham ki kasam
Do din ki mohobbat me humne
Humse aaya na gaya
Ishq mujhko nahi
(Non-film)
Naqsh fariyadi hai
Ae andaleeb-e-zaar
Kaun kehta hai tujhe
...others shall follow later
hemant...@hotmail.com (Hemant) wrote in message news:<825a0957.01060...@posting.google.com>...
Abhay Phadnis
"ghazals" (dil Dhuu.NDhataa hai, meraa kuchh saamaan, zi.ndagii me.n to
sabhii, is mod se jaate hai.n). Abhay Avachat has put up an excellent
write-up on the ghazal form, available at
http://www.sawf.org/bin/tips.exe/gettip?user=Sawf+Archives&class=EZine&subcl
ass=Music&tipid=2118&co=0&arch=1&pn=Music
I was going to start off with a diatribe about any list of "best" ghazals
that does not include a single one of Begum Akhtar's, but backed off when I
saw "tumako dekhaa to ye Kayaal aayaa" listed as the "best among modern
ghazals". Our tastes are obviously very, very different! (Just out of
curiosity, what IS a "modern" ghazal?)
By the way, when you mention the film version of "dil-e-naadaa.N tujhe hu_aa
kyaa hai", why do you leave out Suraiya's name?
Warm regards,
Abhay
"Hemant" <hemant...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hemant
1. I gave importance to music, melody and vocal (that's why best
"sung" ghazals) perhaps more than lyrics. Hence I thought Jagjit's
rendition of 'Tumko dekha to' qualifies.
2. Obviously I didn't want to compare Gulzaar with a Ghalib or a
Mir... so loosely used the term modern shayars and ghazals.
3. Can 'is mod se jaate hai.n' be called a ghazal? Well, I beg the
purists for pardon. My understanding of these things is apparently
limited! Ghazal or not, I hope you love the compositions.
Cheers,
Hemant.
"Abhay Phadnis" <apha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<9f9rvv$333d2$1...@ID-75300.news.dfncis.de>...
Abhay Phadnis
>
> 1. I gave importance to music, melody and vocal (that's why best
> "sung" ghazals) perhaps more than lyrics. Hence I thought Jagjit's
> rendition of 'Tumko dekha to' qualifies.
> 2. Obviously I didn't want to compare Gulzaar with a Ghalib or a
> Mir... so loosely used the term modern shayars and ghazals.
> 3. Can 'is mod se jaate hai.n' be called a ghazal? Well, I beg the
> purists for pardon. My understanding of these things is apparently
> limited! Ghazal or not, I hope you love the compositions.
It is not a question of offending "purists", it's a question of the
definition of a word. A sonnet has a specific structure; if you called a
10-line poem a sonnet, you would simply be wrong. The ghazal too is a
specific poetic form. The link I mentioned earlier explains its features
very well; I don't need to reiterate the points. As will be clear if you
read that article, "is moD se jaate hai.n", although beautifully written,
tuned, and sung, is NOT a ghazal.
Warm regards,
Abhay
Nita
> "ghazals" (dil Dhuu.NDhataa hai, meraa kuchh saamaan, zi.ndagii me.n to
> sabhii, is mod se jaate hai.n). Abhay Avachat has put up an excellent
> write-up on the ghazal form, available at
> http://www.sawf.org/bin/tips.exe/gettip?user=Sawf+Archives&class=EZine&subcl
> ass=Music&tipid=2118&co=0&arch=1&pn=Music
A clarification. Abhay Avachat certainly did post the article on RMIM
but it is a translation of the introduction/foreword of the book
Aaina-e-Ghazal. In fact, the complete introduction is not translated.
I was not around when Abhay posted this article but I hope he
mentioned the source. It behooves all of us to do so, too.
> I was going to start off with a diatribe about any list of "best" ghazals
> that does not include a single one of Begum Akhtar's, but backed off when I
I couldn't agree more. :-)
> saw "tumako dekhaa to ye Kayaal aayaa" listed as the "best among modern
> ghazals". Our tastes are obviously very, very different! (Just out of
> curiosity, what IS a "modern" ghazal?)
I thought the list was for all time great ghazals. Where did it
specify 'modern' ghazal?
By my definition a modern ghazal is what the likes of Anup Jalota pass
off as 'ghazal' these days. They are more like geets, usually with
heavy orchestration and a 'jhankar' like sound. They are the ones I
usually avoid.
"Ghazal sahii Dhang se gaa_ii jaaye to us kaa nashaa sar cha.Dh ke
bolataa hai"
- Begum Akhtar
Nita
>
> 1. I gave importance to music, melody and vocal (that's why best
> "sung" ghazals) perhaps more than lyrics. Hence I thought Jagjit's
Since the very basis of a ghazal is poetry, I would have thought that
lyrics would occupy prime spot in the selection criteria. But then I
look for good lyrics even in film songs so maybe I am biased. :-)
ham se puuchho Gazal kyaa hai Gazal kaa fan kyaa hai
chand lafzo.n me.n ko_ii aah chhupaa dii jaaye
- Unknown
Chetan Vinchhi
Nita wrote...
>By my definition a modern ghazal is what the likes of Anup Jalota pass
>off as 'ghazal' these days. They are more like geets, usually with
>heavy orchestration and a 'jhankar' like sound. They are the ones I
>usually avoid.
and earlier, in the same thread:
>Since the very basis of a ghazal is poetry, I would have thought that
>lyrics would occupy prime spot in the selection criteria.
Make up your mind, Nita :) Is it lyrics that you care more about
or the orchestration? Don't get me wrong, I am just curious to
know what you think makes a great ghazal rendition. More
specifically, what if Anup Jalota sang a great Mir or Ghalib
piece using the kind of orchestration you described above?
Would it then be a great ghazal or not? Why?
C
Nita
I can see why this might seem confusing to a newbie but I would have
thought a seasoned veteran like you should have been able to resolve
the apparent ambiguity by yourself, Chetan. :-)
Anyways, here is my take on it. The two point of views are not
conflicting since in one I am talking about ghazal as a form of poetry
and in the other a a form of music. Let's take one of the most
commonly sung ghazals - Mirza Ghalib's "ye na thii hamaarii qismat".
It has been sung by practically every ghazal singer. However, are all
renditions equally good just because the ghazal (poetry) is great? I
don't think so and I am sure you will not disagree with this point of
view either. Haven't we faced similar situations in film songs sung by
different singers? In most of these cases, even the orchestration
remains the same. Yet we prefer one over the other. So, given that the
lyrics/poetry is great, the singing style, voice and orchestration
plays a big part is my liking or disliking a ghazal. I must confess
that I have a weakness for the traditional style of ghazal 'gaayaki'
as personified by Mallika-e-Ghazal Begum Akhtar.
On the other hand, a great ghazal singer can rescue a poet and his/her
work from obscurity simply by using his/her skills/talent as a ghazal
singers. To date, I haven't come across a single ghazal by Begum
Akhtar that I haven't liked. Through her, I have been introduced to
the works of poets I would not have known otherwise. Same could be
said of Mehdi Hassan, Ghulam Ali, Jagjit Singh and other greats.
Like I already mentioned in an earlier post, it may be that I am
biased and most others do not think this way but for me, even film
songs with great(and/or catchy) tunes without good lyrics are not
something I would like to listen to time and again. I might listen to
it once or twice till the novelty wears off but that's about it.
Bottom line: For me, a great ghazal = great poetry. If it is sung
well, all the better. If someone tells me of a great ghazal but which
has excessive orchestration or is sung badly, I simply note down the
lyrics and read them. That way, I get to enjoy the poetry without the
insufferable music.
Hope that clarifies the issue. :-)
P.S. One can listen to Mehdi Hassan's rendition of "ranjish hii sahii'
and "ab ke ham bicha.De" that he has sung in ghazal albums/concerts
and the versions he has sung for Pakistani films and see for oneself
how changes in orchestration and singing style can mar a good ghazal.
dohe rubaa_ii nazme.n sabhii 'Tarz' the magar
asnaaf-e-shaayarii kaa Khudaa ban ga_ii Gazal
- Ganesh Bihari 'Tarz'