KATRA KATRA:song and picturization
Sambit Basu
Here are some of my views on the song "Katra Katra" from IJAZAT. These views
may seem very weird to some, but really I want to know others view on this
too.
I think this is the only song in Hindi movies ( I'm really not a fan of
new hindi films and songs, as a matter of fact, I have a strong anti-new
bias for these - so, I'm not aware of any other such ventures ) which
exploits the relatively new technical betterment in recording - namely,
channel recording ( I don't know exactly what is the technical name for it ).
The idea is like this, you record, say a flute piece on channel 1 and three
days later record the sitar piece on channel 2. now if you can mix them
properly and play, one won't find the difference that they were recorded
separately. In this way one violin can simulate an orchestra of violins and
so on. In some bengali songs Salil Chowdhury utilized this concept to harmonize
a song, which actually was sung by a single singer.( This was of course prior
to the release of IJAZAT ).
In Katra Katra, RD utilized the same thing but not to harmonize the song.
If you can remember, in some portion the voice of Asha singing the previous
line did not totally fade out before she started singing the next line.
Initially I thought it was done by employing "delay" but later found,
( listening the song over and over ) this couldn't be done by "delay".
I also noticed that whenever this fade-out/fade-in happened during the song
the scenes also got dissolve onto another. ( Dissolve in Film diction means
a type of scene change like cuts,wipes,fade-in/fade-outs in which the next
scene comes on the screen before the previous scene is totally wiped out ).
So I think it was a very concious effort from Gulzar and RD to picturize
the song in that manner, which is significantly brilliant.
The song itself may not be one of the greats either from Gulzar or RD as far
as the lyric/poetry/tune/orchestration are concerned, but if we consider the
facet how well a song is picturised to be another parameter of a film-song to
judge, I think this song will stand alone.
I am sorry for my typos, and other constructions. Three projects are hanging
on my shoulder but even then I decided to write it in rush before I forget.
( but I have all the time to read anything any of you, netters , write on
this subject.)
-Sambit
Srinivasa Raghavan
In article <Apr.21.22.36....@er2.rutgers.edu>, sam...@er2.rutgers.edu
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|> Here are some of my views on the song "Katra Katra" from IJAZAT. These views
|> may seem very weird to some, but really I want to know others view on this
|> too.
|>
|> If you can remember, in some portion the voice of Asha singing the previous
|> line did not totally fade out before she started singing the next line.
|> Initially I thought it was done by employing "delay" but later found,
|> ( listening the song over and over ) this couldn't be done by "delay".
|>
it was actually azha AND LATA who were singing the song - which would have
made it two singers for the same person in the picturisation.
somehow, it sounds like asha throughout. but as u mentioned, it almost sounds
as if two voices are cutting into each other!!
so ur explanation is probably the right one unless someone has any other ideas.
how come this was not noticed at the time the movie was released and how come
it got no publicity?
|> The song itself may not be one of the greats either from Gulzar or RD as far
|> as the lyric/poetry/tune/orchestration are concerned, but if we consider the
|> facet how well a song is picturised to be another parameter of a film-song to
|> judge, I think this song will stand alone.
i think it is the orchestration (and this unusual blend of voices) that make
this song stand out from other new songs. it creates an atmosphere of
eerieness, of sombriety if you will.
full marks to r.d. burman for this innovative piece of music!!
srinivas
Vikas Awasthi
I am sorry I dont remember any details of the discussion except that
folks were sure that it was Asha all through and her voices had
been super-imposed.
Does anyone here remember more ... or have those articles ?
Vikas
bhushan g karle
Sambit Basu <sam...@er2.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>Hi netters,
>
>Here are some of my views on the song "Katra Katra" from IJAZAT. These views
>may seem very weird to some, but really I want to know others view on this
>too.
>
>I think this is the only song in Hindi movies ( I'm really not a fan of
>new hindi films and songs, as a matter of fact, I have a strong anti-new
>bias for these
>In Katra Katra, RD utilized the same thing but not to harmonize the song.
>If you can remember, in some portion the voice of Asha singing the previous
>line did not totally fade out before she started singing the next line.
>Initially I thought it was done by employing "delay" but later found,
>( listening the song over and over ) this couldn't be done by "delay".
>
>I also noticed that whenever this fade-out/fade-in happened during the song
>the scenes also got dissolve onto another. ( Dissolve in Film diction means
>a type of scene change like cuts,wipes,fade-in/fade-outs in which the next
>scene comes on the screen before the previous scene is totally wiped out ).
>So I think it was a very concious effort from Gulzar and RD to picturize
>the song in that manner, which is significantly brilliant.
>
>The song itself may not be one of the greats either from Gulzar or RD as far
>as the lyric/poetry/tune/orchestration are concerned, but if we consider the
>facet how well a song is picturised to be another parameter of a film-song to
>judge, I think this song will stand alone.
>-Sambit
U NO WHAT, THAT'S ONE OF MY MOST FAVORITE SONGS
(OTHERS INCL. YE HASIN VADIYAN FROM ROJA ,
TUMSE MILKE FROM PARINDA ETC.) BUT IT REALLY
STANDS OUT FOR ITS TECHNICAL INNOVATIVENESS.
I CANT DESCRIBE IT THE WAY YOU HAVE DONE,
BUT I JUST LOV E IT!!!
BHUSHAN [who is #1 fan of ROJA ] KARLE