Comedienne Tun Tun passes away
Arun Iyengar
Afzal A. Khan
Arun Iyengar wrote:
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/301541.cms
>
> A
> --
May her soul rest in peace.
She retained her singing flair till quite
late in her life. I have seen her in various
programmes, where this gift was seen to
advantage. As a comedienne, I think she (or
rather her physique) was exploited in quite
a shameful manner. I am sure she put up with
this only for the sake of the money it brought
her. Even after she quit singing, she would
some times remind filmgoers of her gift while
playing a comedienne's role. In one of her
films, probably "Solva Saal", she is in a film
studio where Dev Anand chances upon her. And
she croons a line or two (Murli bairan bhayee ?)
and Dev rolls his eyes in amazement. He might
not have been play-acting !
Afzal
naniwadekar
"Arun Iyengar" <arun_iy...@hotmail.com> wrote -
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/301541.cms
>
The article says :
"Uma Devi, popularly known as Tun Tun, ... began her career
as a singer in the 1960s"
Quickly :
1) 1960s ??
http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/rmim/cisb/ASCII/147.isb
2) On the other end of the spectrum, I have seen some
1930s gems by Uma Shashi attributed to Uma Devi
by various sources.
- dn
Surjit Singh
> "Arun Iyengar" <arun_iy...@hotmail.com> wrote -
>
>>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/301541.cms
>>
>
>
> The article says :
> "Uma Devi, popularly known as Tun Tun, ... began her career
> as a singer in the 1960s"
>
> Quickly :
>
> 1) 1960s ??
> http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/rmim/cisb/ASCII/147.isb
On a similar note, this morning, I was watching (while trying to sleep)
a program called Riot on one of the Dish network channels. The young
punk mentioned that he was going to show a very funny scene between
Kishor Kumar and Tun Tun from the movie Holiday in Bombay. I woke up
saying, "WHAT!" and woke up the whole household!
Turns out it was Inder Sain Johar and Uma Devi!
Looks like I have to have photos of very well known people also on my
web site.
>
> 2) On the other end of the spectrum, I have seen some
> 1930s gems by Uma Shashi attributed to Uma Devi
> by various sources.
>
> - dn
>
>
--
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html
Afzal A. Khan
Surjit Singh wrote:
>
> On a similar note, this morning, I was watching (while trying to sleep)
> a program called Riot on one of the Dish network channels. The young
> punk mentioned that he was going to show a very funny scene between
> Kishor Kumar and Tun Tun from the movie Holiday in Bombay. I woke up
> saying, "WHAT!" and woke up the whole household!
>
> Turns out it was Inder Sain Johar and Uma Devi!
>
> Looks like I have to have photos of very well known people also on my
> web site.
> Surjit Singh
Do you think these "young (or old) punks" would come
to know about your website and try to access it ?
Afzal
Surjit Singh
>
> Do you think these "young (or old) punks" would come
> to know about your website and try to access it ?
>
Eventually, one day, yes :)
>
> Afzal
Surjit Singh
In honor of Uma Devi (urf Tun Tun) listen to songs from Dard on my
website. Go to the filmi area and scroll down to the list of movies as
usual. Number 6 is belived to be her first Hindi film song.
Afzal A. Khan
Surjit Singh wrote:
>
> Hi RMIMers:
>
> In honor of Uma Devi (urf Tun Tun) listen to songs from Dard on my
> website. Go to the filmi area and scroll down to the list of movies as
> usual. Number 6 is belived to be her first Hindi film song.
>
> Surjit Singh wrote:
> > Afzal A. Khan wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Do you think these "young (or old) punks" would come
> >> to know about your website and try to access it ?
> >>
> >
> > Eventually, one day, yes :)
> >
> >>
> >> Afzal
> Surjit Singh
Some believe that her first singing assignment was
for the film "Wamaq Azra" (1946 ?), for which she was
paid a sum of Rs. 200/-.
Afzal
Surjit Singh
>
> Surjit Singh wrote:
>
>>Hi RMIMers:
>>
>>In honor of Uma Devi (urf Tun Tun) listen to songs from Dard on my
>>website. Go to the filmi area and scroll down to the list of movies as
>>usual. Number 6 is belived to be her first Hindi film song.
>
> Some believe that her first singing assignment was
> for the film "Wamaq Azra" (1946 ?), for which she was
> paid a sum of Rs. 200/-.
>
Definitely possible.
naniwadekar
"Afzal A. Khan" <m...@privacy.net> wrote -
>
> Some believe that her first singing assignment was
> for the film "Wamaq Azra" (1946 ?), for which she was
> paid a sum of Rs. 200/-.
>
Do you have any source to cite for that claim? If not, how
did you remember the name of that obscure film?
Some trustworthy people do believe that her first film
song came out in 1946. But Naushad shouted from
rooftop that he had introduced Uma Devi and due to
his seniority, nobody contradicted him to his face.
It is said that Uma Devi herself had given indication that
she had made her debut before the film 'Dard'. We can
dismiss the claim that she was Naushad's discovery.
The MD of 'Wamiq Azra' was Alla Rakha Qureshi.
- dn
Sudhir
she sang a line of great nazm (by: Qateel Shifai):
Dil Todne Wale Dekh Ke Chal
Hum Bhi To Pade Hain Raahon Mein
I thought it was Babul (1950), but her name is not listed in the HFGK book.
Another of her great song is from the film:
NATAK (1947)
Dilwale, O Dilwale... Jal Jal Kar Hi Mar Jaana,
Tum Preet Na Kar Pachtana, Dilwale O Dilwale
Also, a Naushad composition.
She had roles in Guru Dutt' Aar Paar and Mr. & Mrs 55, but the
director insisted that her real name Uma Devi should be listed in the
credits. In Aar Paar she played the role of Johny Walker's potential
Mom-in-Law (perhaps one of the youngest Mom).
Sudhir
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"Afzal A. Khan" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
Sudhir
the song was a junk number then (and more so today), why talk
about it ?
What matters is, who was the MD, who created the first GOOD SONG,
which gave the singer the break. For Uma Devi, it was and will remain
as a Naushad discovery.
Trying to unearth obscure and useless information, doesn't serve any
purpose. The objective is to find good songs and listen to them.
Sudhir
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naniwadekar
"Sudhir" <maild...@yahoo.com> wrote -
>
> To me it doesn't matter, who gave the first assignment to a singer. If
> the song was a junk number then (and more so today), why talk
> about it ?
>
It doesn't matter what matters to you. If Uma Devi did
sing for films before she sang her first song for Naushad
in Dard, then Naushad's claim that he introduced her
is false. To dismiss a song which you haven't heard
as 'a junk number' just because it did not become popular
is laughable. Around the time that A R Qureshi composed
for 'Wamiq Azra', he had shown his class as composer.
> Trying to unearth obscure and useless information, doesn't
> serve any purpose.
>
By your logic, Hamraaz should never have bothered to list
all songs from all films in Geet Kosh volumes (which you
have praised highly) because a majority of songs in the
earlier volumes are obscure.
- dn
Afzal A. Khan
Sudhir wrote:
>
> I don't remember the film, and if I recall it correctly,
> she sang a line of great nazm (by: Qateel Shifai):
>
> Dil Todne Wale Dekh Ke Chal
> Hum Bhi To Pade Hain Raahon Mein
>
> I thought it was Babul (1950), but her name is not listed in the HFGK book.
>
> Another of her great song is from the film:
>
> NATAK (1947)
>
> Dilwale, O Dilwale... Jal Jal Kar Hi Mar Jaana,
> Tum Preet Na Kar Pachtana, Dilwale O Dilwale
>>
> "Afzal A. Khan" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >
> >
> > May her soul rest in peace.
> >
> > She retained her singing flair till quite
> > late in her life. I have seen her in various
> > programmes, where this gift was seen to
> > advantage. As a comedienne, I think she (or
> > rather her physique) was exploited in quite
> > a shameful manner. I am sure she put up with
> > this only for the sake of the money it brought
> > her. Even after she quit singing, she would
> > some times remind filmgoers of her gift while
> > playing a comedienne's role. In one of her
> > films, probably "Solva Saal", she is in a film
> > studio where Dev Anand chances upon her. And
> > she croons a line or two (Murli bairan bhayee ?)
> > and Dev rolls his eyes in amazement. He might
> > not have been play-acting !
> >
> >
> > Afzal
The first song you have quoted above was sung by
the well-known Pakistani singer Iqbal Bano. It was
used in a Pakistani film released around 1955.
You can get other details by doing a Google search.
The other song is no doubt by Uma Devi Tun Tun and it
IS a great number.
Her films are too numerous to mention. She also
acted in many of Dev Anand's films. She had a
brief cameo in "Nau Do Gyarah" where, as the irate
landlady of Dev, she throws out all his things
for not paying his rent --- ("Shri Madan Gopal !").
A very spontaneous bit of acting.
Afzal
Sudhir
1 Some music reviewer from a magazine might have mentioned it
(reviews from individuals were not published, until the advent
of internet and then the NewsGroups like this forum)
2 HMV or any of the other non-authorized Tape mfrer (EMI-
Pakistan, Advance Sargam - aka: IndianScreen.com, United
Records Pakistan etc. , - might have released it.
3 The criteria for selecting a song, when it is only 10 years old
(and may be available) is quite different than when it is
40 plus years old and almost impossible to locate.
4 Hamraaz's criterias for selecting the songs is not applicable.
He compiled the list and had to list all the songs. Desirability
and Availability were not the issues. As an added attraction,
he also listed in few cases, records & recordings which were
scrapped (e.g.: Babul / Naushad: 2 songs by Hemat and
Hemant + Geeta).
5 The MD tag to a song is only a minor consideration. Naushad,
and for that matter, each and every MD has created JUNK,
Un-listenable and Passable compositions. Yes, the good
Music Directors have created Great, Good and O.K. songs.
The percentage of these listenable songs, is not more than
30% even for the most highly rated MDs.
If you don't believe me, select any of your top-rated MD,
compile the list of songs which you like (not what you have),
Cross-Check with another listener in your age-group (i.e.:
plus / minus 5 or 7 years)
Sudhir
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"naniwadekar" <nani3...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> "Sudhir" <maild...@yahoo.com> wrote -
Surjit Singh
http://ww1.mid-day.com/entertainment/news/2003/november/69615.htm
They mention Wamak Azra too.
Afzal A. Khan
Surjit Singh wrote:
>
> Here is a better article on Tun Tun from the film nagari itself!
>
> http://ww1.mid-day.com/entertainment/news/2003/november/69615.htm
>
> They mention Wamak Azra too.
>
> --
> Surjit Singh
The name of the legendary lover was Wamaq.
Afzal
Afzal A. Khan
naniwadekar wrote:
> If Uma Devi did
> sing for films before she sang her first song for Naushad
> in Dard, then Naushad's claim that he introduced her
> is false.
> - dn
I don't have any proofs nor have I conducted any
research. But my instinct tells me that Naushad's
claim is false. He doesn't strike me as the type
who would give a break to a raw newcomer. Another
point : has he in fact made a specific claim in this
respect ? He is a past master in speaking in such
a style that listeners assign that meaning to his
comments that he wants. Call me prejudiced, if you
will.
The story that I have heard is that Uma Devi got her
break in "Wamaq Azra", but she was very keen to sing
under Naushad's baton. During the audition, she sang
the Noor Jahan number : "AaNdhiyaaN GHam kee yooN
chaleeN, BaaGH ujaR ke reh gaya". Naushad was impressed
and got her to sing the "Dard" numbers.
Afzal
Surjit Singh
This story is repeated in the Midday news item I had posted earlier.
naniwadekar
>
> > If Uma Devi did
> > sing for films before she sang her first song for Naushad
> > in Dard, then Naushad's claim that he introduced her
> > is false.
>
> > - dn
>
> I don't have any proofs nor have I conducted any
> research. But my instinct tells me that Naushad's
> claim is false.
>
Naushad's claim deserves to be dismissed in colourful
language but since this is an obituary thread, I will just
say that even people who are close to Naushad in
Mumbai's music circles agree that Naushad's claim
about introducing Uma Devi in 'Dard' is false. These
insiders add that when Naushad made this claim in her
presence, she was forced to keep quiet due to respect
for his seniority. The more gullible writers/witnesses took
her acquiescence as proof of Naushad's claim.
More serious students tend to follow up on their doubts
by talking to other players in the story. It is neither desirable
for us nor possible for our sources to substantiate every
claim made in these cases. The trick is in cultivating proper
contacts and developing a feel for assessing the claims.
My sources assured me that Uma Devi herself had clear
memory of her film songs before Naushad composed for
her in 'Dard'. But things cannot be more specific (pun
intended) than this.
It is possible that Hamraaz heard about the challenge to
Naushad's claim after the Geet Kosh was published.
In my opinion, the foot-note in the bible which mentions
Naushad's claim about 'afasaanaa likh rahii huu.n' being
Uma Devi's debut song should be removed. Naushad
had made several outlandish claims 15-20 years ago.
Lata had demolished many of them.
It is, of course, true that Naushad deserves credit for
composing several beautiful songs for Uma Devi.
- dn
Surjit Singh
> It is possible that Hamraaz heard about the challenge to
> Naushad's claim after the Geet Kosh was published.
> In my opinion, the foot-note in the bible which mentions
> Naushad's claim about 'afasaanaa likh rahii huu.n' being
> Uma Devi's debut song should be removed. Naushad
> had made several outlandish claims 15-20 years ago.
> Lata had demolished many of them.
>
> It is, of course, true that Naushad deserves credit for
> composing several beautiful songs for Uma Devi.
>
Boy, Do I miss Naushad fans!
Where are you Samiuddin Mohammed?
>
> - dn
Sudhir
My query was not related to film: Qatil, but if someone can identify
an Indian film, in which one line of this song was used as a dialogue
As far as Iqbal Bano's two songs (Qatil and Ishaq-e-Laila) are concerned,
if someone doesn't have the same and more important than that, does not
like them, he should not be at this forum.
Sudhir
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"Afzal A. Khan" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> Sudhir wrote:
> >
> > I don't remember the film, and if I recall it correctly,
> > she sang a line of great nazm (by: Qateel Shifai):
> >
> > Dil Todne Wale Dekh Ke Chal
> > Hum Bhi To Pade Hain Raahon Mein
> >
> > I thought it was Babul (1950), but her name is not listed in the HFGK book.
> >
> > Another of her great song is from the film:
> >
> > NATAK (1947)
> >
> > Dilwale, O Dilwale... Jal Jal Kar Hi Mar Jaana,
> > Tum Preet Na Kar Pachtana, Dilwale O Dilwale
> >>
>
>
>
> The first song you have quoted above was sung by
> the well-known Pakistani singer Iqbal Bano. It was
> used in a Pakistani film released around 1955.
> You can get other details by doing a Google search.
>
> The other song is no doubt by Uma Devi Tun Tun and it
> IS a great number.
>
>
>
> Afzal
Afzal A. Khan
Surjit Singh wrote:
>
> naniwadekar wrote:
> > It is possible that Hamraaz heard about the challenge to
> > Naushad's claim after the Geet Kosh was published.
> > In my opinion, the foot-note in the bible which mentions
> > Naushad's claim about 'afasaanaa likh rahii huu.n' being
> > Uma Devi's debut song should be removed. Naushad
> > had made several outlandish claims 15-20 years ago.
> > Lata had demolished many of them.
> >
> > It is, of course, true that Naushad deserves credit for
> > composing several beautiful songs for Uma Devi.
> >
>
> Boy, Do I miss Naushad fans!
>
> Where are you Samiuddin Mohammed?
>
> >
> > - dn
> >
> >
>
> --
> Surjit Singh
For the time being, I can "sub" for him !
But, seriously, it is one thing to like and
appreciate somebody's music. But that does not
necessarily mean that one should like that MD's
personality and other traits. Capacity to create
good music does not always mean that his persona
is faultless. By and large, my perception is that
N. is a phoney.
Afzal
Afzal A. Khan
Your last para : Agree completely.
Uma Devi was always asked to sing this "Dard" song
in most TV programmes. But, IIRC, she never ever
claimed that this was her debut song. If this had been
true, one would expect her to mention it sometime, at
least once. This itself should be an indication that
it was not her debut song. Also, as I mentioned earlier,
one should carefully examine whether N. did in fact make
this claim in UNEQUIVOCAL terms. Maybe, it is my instinct
for strictly legal processes that makes me doubt THIS
claim about HIS claim !
Afzal
Abhay Jain
"Surjit Singh" <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bq1kdb$1ua145$1...@ID-159547.news.uni-berlin.de...
> naniwadekar wrote:
> > It is possible that Hamraaz heard about the challenge to
> > Naushad's claim after the Geet Kosh was published.
> > In my opinion, the foot-note in the bible which mentions
> > Naushad's claim about 'afasaanaa likh rahii huu.n' being
> > Uma Devi's debut song should be removed. Naushad
> > had made several outlandish claims 15-20 years ago.
> > Lata had demolished many of them.
> >
> > It is, of course, true that Naushad deserves credit for
> > composing several beautiful songs for Uma Devi.
> >
>
> Boy, Do I miss Naushad fans!
What is missing in this thread is that people are
not criticizing Naushad for steering Uma Devi away
from Singing. That is our real loss. We missed out
out on what other great songs she might have sung.
Abhay Jain
Surjit Singh
Surjit Singh
voice in chorus or some such thing!
Afzal A. Khan
Sudhir wrote:
>
> Afzal Saheb:
>
> My query was not related to film: Qatil, but if someone can identify
> an Indian film, in which one line of this song was used as a dialogue
>
> As far as Iqbal Bano's two songs (Qatil and Ishaq-e-Laila) are concerned,
> if someone doesn't have the same and more important than that, does not
> like them, he should not be at this forum.
>
> Sudhir
In your earlier post, you did refer to HFGK and also
the film "Babul". I don't think there is any such
song in that film.
As for your second para, that is my fervent hope too !
Afzal
Afzal A. Khan
Surjit Singh wrote:
>
> OK. One more.
>
> http://www.ambedkar.org/entertainment/tuntun.htm
>
> Apparentely, she was a dalit.
> Surjit Singh
In the manner they exploited her appearance and physique
in acting assignments, she was truly a dalit.
In the film "Professor", she was paired opposite another
unfortunate person, who was almost a dwarf. That was
sheer shamelessness.
Afzal
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
> not criticizing Naushad for steering Uma Devi away
> from Singing. That is our real loss. We missed out
> out on what other great songs she might have sung.
>
> Abhay Jain
Abhay, that's a noble sentiment, and I am usually a prolific criticizer of
Naushad's personality quirks. However, here I concede that he may have
correctly forecast the dominance of Lata/Asha and those aspiring singers
following in a similar style and/or vocal range. If Naushad truly believed
that Uma Devi's type of voice did not have a future in films based on
visible trends in the industry, why was steering her away a bad thing? A
good exit strategy is often better than sticking it out "just because".
True, the type of acting she subsequently had to do was not glamorous at
all, but her insisting on "singer-only" work in films would likely have led
to complete inactivity. As for non-filmy things, maybe Naushad's take was
that she didn't have the background and/or training to sustain a career over
there.
Sanjeev
Abhay Jain
"Sanjeev Ramabhadran" <sanjeev.r...@duke.edu> wrote in message
news:vDpyb.6960$n4....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
Sanjeev,
Your point well taken. Singer-Only was the dominant theme those days.
Nutan, Meena Kumari also had to resosrt to acting only.
Abhay Jain
Afzal A. Khan
I don't think Meena Kumari ever sang for films.
Nutan, despite singing a few songs (e.g. Chhabili),
did not have the requisite talent for success as a
singer. So, there is no question of their having
to "resort to acting". They were primarily great
actresses. Just calculate the number of Filmfare
trophies garnered by the two !
Afzal
naniwadekar
"Sanjeev Ramabhadran" wrote -
>
> However, here I concede that he may have
> correctly forecast the dominance of Lata/Asha and those aspiring singers
> following in a similar style and/or vocal range. If Naushad truly believed
> that Uma Devi's type of voice did not have a future in films based on
> visible trends in the industry, why was steering her away a bad thing?
>
I agree with you that this is what is likely to have happened.
And that is why I did not blame Naushad for curtailing Uma
Devi's singing career. He at least made sure that her singing
prowess is still remembered. We shouldn't forget that no
other MD/producer had the courage to try to base a film
around Uma Devi's singing talent in the '50s. She came too
late on the scene by 7-8 years.
- dn
Afzal A. Khan
What are the other (non-Naushad) films for which she
had sung ?
Afzal
naniwadekar
> had sung ?
>
Wamaq/Wamiq Azra, Chandralekha, Roop Lekha.
A R Qureshi's films are worth a look but I don't have the list
with me. I looked in Ghulam Mohammed's films in 1948-1950
span. She sang in Kaajal (1948). In Maang (1950), there is
one Lata-Uma duet. No idea who this Uma is. The actor
credits don't mention any Uma or Tun Tun.
A quick run over the bible pages showed few more films :
The Last Message, Saudaaminii, a cancelled film named Afsana.
There should be a few more forgotten films which make the list.
Execpt Chandralekha, I haven't heard her non-Naushad songs.
- dn
Surjit Singh
> I don't think Meena Kumari ever sang for films.
About 20 songs by Meena Kumari during 1947-48, e.g. in Piya Ghar Aja
(1947), 6 solos and 2 duets with the hero Karan Diwan.
> Nutan, despite singing a few songs (e.g. Chhabili),
> did not have the requisite talent for success as a
> singer. So, there is no question of their having
> to "resort to acting". They were primarily great
> actresses. Just calculate the number of Filmfare
> trophies garnered by the two !
>
>
>
> Afzal
--
Pulkit
> "Afzal A. Khan" <m...@privacy.net> wrote -
> >
> > naniwadekar wrote:
> >
> > > If Uma Devi did
> > > sing for films before she sang her first song for Naushad
> > > in Dard, then Naushad's claim that he introduced her
> > > is false.
>
> > > - dn
> >
> > I don't have any proofs nor have I conducted any
> > research. But my instinct tells me that Naushad's
> > claim is false.
> >
>
> Naushad's claim deserves to be dismissed in colourful
> language but since this is an obituary thread, I will just
> say that even people who are close to Naushad in
> Mumbai's music circles agree that Naushad's claim
I remember seeing an interview in which Naushad claimed to have
introduced Uma Devi in a film called Natak(1947). Naushad also took
the credit for introducing Uma Devi as an actress in Babul (1950). The
other people whom he claimed to introduce were- Suraiya, Shyam
Kumar(the Dillagi hero) and Mohd. Rafi.
Also, in a documentary on Uma Devi it was said that after marriage she
had to leave film singing because her husband didn't want her to sing.
This statement is indeed very controversial.
Afzal A. Khan
I think the Shyam Kumar referred to here is the
actor who did a lot of villainish roles right upto
the seventies. He was the villain in "Dard"
too. Also, in a sixties movie "Shatranj (?)' where
he was an evil Chinese "supremo" ---"Chao, Mao, Tao
---sar jhukaao" ! He sang Naushad compositions in
films like "Dillagi". Not to be confused with the
hero Shyam who died during the filming of "Shabistan".
The villain/singer Shyam died of cancer sometime in the
eighties. Naushad's reference was to this guy.
Afzal
Hindustani Naujawaan
Inder Sain Johar was an Ass Hole just like his other clans (Yash Johar,
Karan Johar) These Mother Fuckers can't direct/produce or do anything
worth watching. Only place worthy for the clans of Johars is the
ChiriyaGhar of Jhumri Talayaa.
Afzal A. Khan wrote:
>
> Surjit Singh wrote:
> >
> > On a similar note, this morning, I was watching (while trying to sleep)
> > a program called Riot on one of the Dish network channels. The young
> > punk mentioned that he was going to show a very funny scene between
> > Kishor Kumar and Tun Tun from the movie Holiday in Bombay. I woke up
> > saying, "WHAT!" and woke up the whole household!
> >
> > Turns out it was Inder Sain Johar and Uma Devi!
> >
> > Looks like I have to have photos of very well known people also on my
> > web site.
>
> > Surjit Singh
>
>
> Do you think these "young (or old) punks" would come
> to know about your website and try to access it ?
>
> Afzal
Sudhir
name to make people think that the Hero Shyam sang the songs himself.
The spellings are silightly different, but the phonotics are the same.
The heroine was Suraiya, who did sing all her on-screen songs.
Anmol Ghadi released around the same time by rival studio, had the
distinction of having not two but three singer- artists in lead.
Mr. Afzal's remarks are correct
Sudhir
P.S.: The listing in Hindi Film Geet Kosh should be corrected
for 2 songs from: Shyam >> to >>> Sham Kumar /
Tu Mera Chand Main Teri and
Zalim Zamana Mujh Ko
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"Afzal A. Khan" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message >
Sudhir
In her earlier roles as a comedienne, a quite good song was picturized
on her. It was in the Punjabi film: KODAY SHAH (1953) /
MD: Sardul Kwatra. The song is:
Aaj Sone Kapde Te Chunni Vi Bareek Ae
Aewen Mainu Jaape Ne Teeno Maahi Di Udeek Hai
Kyon Ni Billo Theek Ae
Paththar Te Leek Ae
by: Shamshad & Chorus (On-Screen: Shyama & junior artists, while
Tun Tun is the: Billo)
The song has not been re-issed by HMV, but the Video Tape was
released by: (may be Esquire)
2 The stories circulating around early 60s was that Uma Devi
lost her singing ability because of some ailment, which also
made her look that fat. Naushad suggested and also helped her
getting roles as a comedienne, starting with: BABUL
I had posted a query earlier at this post, as having heard her
reciting Qateel Shifai's nazm: Dil Todne Wale Dekh Ke Chal ...
in film Babul. Having being confirmed that she had acted
in this film (not listed in HFGK), I am sure that my recall
of this scene (she catching hold of Dilip Kumar, when he is
planning to go to Munawwar Sultana's house) is correct.
Sudhir
Rirfan6
> lost her singing ability because of some ailment, which also
> made her look that fat.
IMHO this is quite plausible.
It looks that she was suffering from
dysfunctioning of thyroid gland which
surely causes obessity and loss in
voice quality.
Noor Jehan too, had thyroid problem
which she controlled to some extent
by taking throxine for many years till
her death.
Regards,
Irfan
Sudhir
Why you are posting msg related to Johar's at this thread, which is covering
stories about Tun Tun ?
You have done great research on Johars, now how about doing similar
in-depth coverage on:
Patels and Shahs
Don't you think, there are too many of them in film (and for that matter,
in all other) industries
Sudhir
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Hindustani Naujawaan <Nauj...@Bharatnaujwaansabha.edu> wrote in
Pulkit
> >
> 2 The stories circulating around early 60s was that Uma Devi
> lost her singing ability because of some ailment, which also
> made her look that fat. Naushad suggested and also helped her
> getting roles as a comedienne, starting with: BABUL
..... Another painful incident happened in 1980s when Uma Devi used to
perform in stage shows. At a stage show she got so involved in singing
and dancing encouraged by the applause from audience that she really
fell from the stage.
>
> I had posted a query earlier at this post, as having heard her
> reciting Qateel Shifai's nazm: Dil Todne Wale Dekh Ke Chal ...
> in film Babul. Having being confirmed that she had acted
> in this film (not listed in HFGK), I am sure that my recall
> of this scene (she catching hold of Dilip Kumar, when he is
> planning to go to Munawwar Sultana's house) is correct.
I don't think this nazm was recited in Babul, it came in a coloured
film much later in early sixties.The film was either Geet(at the
moment I cannot recall correctly) or had a somewhat similar
storyline.Uma Devi played the role of a housekeeper who while working
keeps reciting this nazm. But her rendition was ecstatic and showed
that her voice still had the charm intact.
Sudhir
this film
Sudhir
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