C Ramchandra/Juhu
Artnut
Some days ago there was a discussion about SJ and LP having some chowks
named after them in Mumbai.
Got to know that there is a C Ramchandra chowk in Juhu, on the left,just
ahead of Pratiksha, Amitabh's old bungalow.
Was CR a Juhu resident?
Can any Mumbai wala confirm please?
Regards,
Arty
Jag Chan
AFIK he was residing at Shivaji Park.Mahim/Dadar.
Parry
On Jun 23, 6:14 pm, Jag Chan <r...@invalid.com> wrote:
> "Artnut" <a...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:g3o2co$lqn$1...@aioe.org:
> AFIK he was residing at Shivaji Park.Mahim/Dadar.- Hide quoted text -
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Afzal A. Khan
Just inside the Park on Cadel Road, Bombay, near Hinduja Hospital,
one can find CR's commemorative plaque, which also contains the
year of his death, 1982.
Afzal
dn.usenet
"Parry" <paragt...@gmail.com> wrote :
>
> > AFIK he was residing at Shivaji Park.Mahim/Dadar.
>
>
Yes. But C Ramchandra died in Mumbai (not Pune).
A small street near Bal Gandharva Rang-mandir in Pune
is named after C Ramchandra.
Parry
> "Parry" <paragtheGr...@gmail.com> wrote :
Yes I forgot to add this.
atu...@yahoo.com
It is opposite CR's Pune home "SARGAM"
Ketan
> Just inside the Park on Cadel Road, Bombay, near Hinduja Hospital,
> one can find CR's commemorative plaque, which also contains the
> year of his death, 1982.
I think what you mean is the North side of Shivaji Park that is closer to
Hinduja Hospital. That area is known as C. Ramchandra chowk. IIRC the
corresponding South Side of Shivaji Park on Cadell Road is named Vasant Desai
Chowk with a similar plaque honoring him.
Ketan
Artnut
"Ketan" <Ketan_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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Someone told me there is one road named after N Dutta somewhere in Andheri
western. Can someone please confirm. BTW, N Dutta, IIRC, has composed music
for Marathi films too but his last name sounds Punjabi/Bengali.
Arty
Artnut
Chetan Vinchhi
>
> Someone told me there is one road named after N Dutta somewhere in Andheri
> western. Can someone please confirm. BTW, N Dutta, IIRC, has composed music
> for Marathi films too but his last name sounds Punjabi/Bengali.
N.Datta = Datta Naik, a Goan.
C
Artnut
"Chetan Vinchhi" <vin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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C
Then there is some confusion here because Datta is a Punjabi surname and
Bengalis spell as Dutta. If N Datta's first name is Datta then it should be
pronounced as Dutt with the a at the last subdued. Like in Dattaguru.
Arty
Afzal A. Khan
I am not an expert in this field, but I believe "Datta" is the
name of a Hindu Deity who is worshipped mainly in Maharashtra.
One can find a "Datta-Mandir" in many cities/towns of this
State, e.g. Poona and near Alibag. And people from Goa are
also essentially Maharashtrians.
Afzal
Abhay Phadnis
> Artnut wrote:
> > "Chetan Vinchhi" <vinc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Afzal-saab, ye aap ne kyaa kah diyaa! Most Goans are extremely
insistent on maintaining their distinct identity. Well, let's see now
how strong the Goan brigade is on RMIM! :)
Warm regards,
Abhay
dn.usenet
"Afzal A. Khan" <me_a...@invalid.invalid> wrote :
>
> I am not an expert in this field, but I believe "Datta" is the
> name of a Hindu Deity who is worshipped mainly in Maharashtra.
> One can find a "Datta-Mandir" in many cities/towns of this
> State, e.g. Poona and near Alibag.
>
The name of the deity is 'Dattaatrey', which is often shortened
to Datt or Dattaa (when associated with a person). While
a person is as likely to be named or called 'Datt' as 'Dattaa',
a datt-mandir is never called 'dattaa-mandir'. And while
a name 'dattaa' is not unknown, it is usually the case that
a person is named 'datt' (not 'dattaa') but called 'dattaa'.
And while a 'vasant' or an 'anant' is called both 'vasant/anant'
or 'vasantaa/anantaa', a 'datt' is almost never called 'datt'.
Perhaps the form of address always has that 'aa' added at
the end because the name ends with double-t. Since I
have never heard anybody called 'datt' it would sound odd
to me. If I had known a few people who are called 'datt'
it would not have sounded odd. It's a matter of usage.
And through sheer weight of practice, a Maharashtrian
Datt never (AFAIK) uses the spelling 'Dutt'.
- dn
Artnut
"dn.usenet" <dn.u...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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In Punjabis and Bengalis Dutt or Datta respectively are surnames while
Datt-a with a subdued 'a' is first name used mostly by Maharashtrians. The
name is shortened as the actual name maybe Dattatrey about God Dattatrey. In
the Devanagri script there would be a half "ta" in it ending with a full
"ta".
Goans maybe be essentially Maharashtrians but as Abhay said, they are
consider themselves quite distinct from Marathis in Maharastra just as
Nagpur Marathis are more inclined towards Hindi. For most North Indians,
anyone from Andhra, Karnataka and Kerala is a "Madraasi". A Goan Konkani
considers his Konkani better off than someone from Mangalore and vice versa.
I remember discussing about Mughlai food when a muslim friend from UP said
biryani from UP is far better than Hyderabadi. I think everyone is just fond
of their region.
Arty
kcp
> "Afzal A. Khan" <me_af...@invalid.invalid> wrote :
first time agreeing with DN on non-musical matters !!
Vikram
Pune while his son is Doctor and settled in UK.
Can any one confirm it?
Regards,
V,Bhatt
Hema
> Goans maybe be essentially Maharashtrians but as Abhay said, they are
> consider themselves quite distinct from Marathis in Maharastra just as
> Nagpur Marathis are more inclined towards Hindi.
I think the latter is just baloney, but I'll see what Mr. Naniwadekar
has to say.
Hema.
Abhay Phadnis
> Few Months back I got the news that C Ramchandra's wife is living in
> Pune while his son is Doctor and settled in UK.
>
> Can any one confirm it?
His wife stays in Poona. His son is a psychiatrist, although I am not
sure where he is based.
Warm regards,
Abhay
Pramod
> Artnut wrote:
No Goans are not Maharashtrians. otherwise the state won't be called
Goa. Goans differentiate themselves from Maharastrians in that, that
they speak Konkani. Konkani is a language independent of Marathi.
Schloars say that it is even older than Marathi. The thing is that
Marathi is more wide spread than Konkani.
The next thing is that, since Konkani language is spoken in three
states: Goa, Karnataka and Kerala and that also in different dialects,
no unifying script has evolved or for that matter can the speakers
unify. Goa is the only state with its official language as Konkani.
I hope just like diversity keeps India alive so will Konkani
thrive! :-)
Regards
Pramod
P.S.: Thanks Abhay!
Pramod
> "Afzal A. Khan" <me_af...@invalid.invalid> wrote :
Didn't the stage and film actor Yashwant Dutt write his surname in
English as "Dutt"?
Pramod
Pramod
Guru Dutt's (a Chitrapur Saraswat) mother tongue was also Konkani. He
writes it Dutt with a U. I think, these spellings have been used
haphazardly and as fas as I know, there are no rules there.
Pramod
Parry
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Kokani is dialect or spoken language, but Marathi is complete language
with rich heritage & literature. Its closest to Sanskrit(mother of all
languages on earth, as per some Western experts).Just to make things
clear.
No ill-feelings towards any language.
Parry
Artnut
"Pramod" <harv...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Gurudatta it should have been as his surname was Padukone. But his first
name was popular than his full name.
You are right about how we spell Hindi with Roman alphabets.
The typical Hindi film names here and newspapers like TOI would write
something like
Kuch Kuch Hota Hain. Aaj sham ko hame wahan or waha jaana hain or hai. Aapne
ab tak yeh kyun nahin kiya. Mujhe uske saath jaana hai or hain.
But the Pakistanis would write same thing as Kuch Kuch Hota Hay. Aaj sham ko
hume wahan Jaana Hay.
Aapne ab tak ye kyon nahin kia. Mujhe Uskay saath jaana hay.
But ever since I came across RMIM, I noticed there's another way to spell
with lower and upper case alphabets as some experts with transliteration do
it.
Arty
Akkordeon
> "Pramod" <harvey...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
For my two-paisa worth of info, his name was Datta (must be Dattatray)
Nayak, he was a Marathi speaking man, possibly originally from Goa,
and used to live in Bandra. I happen to know this as we could see his
house from my brother's flat on Turner Road.
