Pakeezah
Arun Sampath
stood out. It was the number of female singers in the movie. Apart from
Lata, there are 6 other singers; Suman Kalyanpur, Vani Jairam, Parveen
Sultana, Shamshad Begum, Rajkumari and Shoba Gurtu. Are there any other
movies where you have 7 female singers?
Also, there are 17 songs in the CD which is also a large number. I saw the
movie when I was a kid and I don't remember if there were so many songs in
the movie. Barring the pre-independence day movies, are there other movies
with 17 or more songs in them?
Then, on the CD it mentions "Pakeezah Rang-birang". Does anyone know what
that means?
I didn't know many Lata songs in the movie like "Peeke Chale", "Chalo dildar
chalo" (Lata Solo version), "Pyaare Babul", "Tanhai sunaya karti hai". She
sounds younger in these songs than the other popular songs of hers in the
movie. I remember Chetan telling me that it did take a long time for the
movie to be made and many songs were actually recorded in the mid-late
sixties though the movie was released in 1972. Does anyone have more
information about this?
A
SKalra902
...snipped...
That is a CD of the two long play records issued for Paakeezah - the first one
at the release of the film, and the other one called Paakeezah Rang Birang a
few years later. The second LP had songs recorded but not used in the film.
This also explains the total number of songs.
Chetan told you correctly that the film was a long time in the making (close to
12 years) and many of its songs were recorded way before the film's release in
1972.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
UrduAshiq
LPs. Any suggestions where i can get that CD from?
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> HI Satish, I am interested in getting the CD you mention of the two
> LPs. Any suggestions where i can get that CD from?
Saregama (US/Canda section) have the "Ran Birang" edition, under
"Pakeezah The Entire Sound Track". Note I have not heard it , but the
track listing seems to match the "Rang Birang" one.
Your local CD shop should be able to get it as well.
HTH,
Aman
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Before you buy.
vulca...@mailandnews.com
>
> Recently I bought a "Classic Films" RPG CD of Pakeezah and one thing really
> stood out. It was the number of female singers in the movie. Apart from
> Lata, there are 6 other singers; Suman Kalyanpur, Vani Jairam, Parveen
> Sultana, Shamshad Begum, Rajkumari and Shoba Gurtu. Are there any other
> movies where you have 7 female singers?
>
could you punch in the inlay card of cd giving the mukhda of the songs
and the singers/ lyricist, and post to us.
> Also, there are 17 songs in the CD which is also a large number. I saw the
> movie when I was a kid and I don't remember if there were so many songs in
> the movie. Barring the pre-independence day movies, are there other movies
> with 17 or more songs in them?
>
most of the songs play in the background, on the other "kotha"s when
other dancers do their riyaaz.
the one with old lady dancing and all young ones teasing her was
"najaria ki maari mari mori gueeya". gueeya means friend.
i recall there was somewhere pieces of "dekh to dil ke jaa se uthta hai"
by great mehndi hassan himself. could anybody confirm.
> I didn't know many Lata songs in the movie like "Peeke Chale", "Chalo dildar
> chalo" (Lata Solo version), "Pyaare Babul", "Tanhai sunaya karti hai".
wow. never heard of them. great. where to find them.
in any case, you would notice that rafi has only the title two lines
having a total of seven words "chalo dildar chalo, chand ke paar chalo"
in that song. rest was lata, lata, lata all the way.
> She
> sounds younger in these songs than the other popular songs of hers in the
> movie. I remember Chetan telling me that it did take a long time for the
> movie to be made and many songs were actually recorded in the mid-late
> sixties though the movie was released in 1972. Does anyone have more
> information about this?
>
it took 16 years in making, and you can make that out with nubile meena
kumari in "inhi logo ne", and the aged, defeated, mature meena kumari
when she returns from "roman holiday" having said no to nikaah with
rajkumar with shouts of "chappan chhuri" echoing in her ears. remember
the scene when she talks with her friend bibban about a patang (kite) on
a tree in her aangan.
i think first it was shot in b&w and then after half completion, was
abondoned and reshot in color.
meenakumari took a total of one asharfi (gold coin) as the remuneration
for the film.
music by gulam mohammed, background music by none other than naushad,
and some songs by naushad after death of gulam mohhammed (aaj hum apni
duaao ka asar dekhenge) are all of epical magnitude.
everybody speaks about the train letter of rajkumar to meenakumari,
"aapke paon dekhe, bahut khoobsoorat hai, inhe zameen par mat utariyega,
maile ho jaayenge".
kamal mentioned in an interview, that the irony was lost on every viewer
that she was a paid kotha dancer and she has to put her feet on any
ground where money is paid.
my fav is kaifi aazmi's sweet and powerful poetry, defining why urdu is
such a potent and popular language.:
chalte chalte,
yu hi koi mil gaya tha, sar-e-raah chalte chalte,
wahi tham ke rah gayee hai, meri raat dhalte dhalte.
jo kahi gayee na mujhse wo zamaana keh raha hai
ke fasana ban gayee hai meri baat chalte chalte.
shab-e-intezaar aakhir kabhi hogi mukhtsar bhi
ye charaag bujh rahe mere saath chalte chalte.
if anybody wants english translation of the same, i will post.
regards
-vulcan
Arun Sampath
<vulca...@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
news:396B4F40...@mailandnews.com...
> Arun Sampath wrote:
> >
> > Recently I bought a "Classic Films" RPG CD of Pakeezah and one thing
really
> > stood out. It was the number of female singers in the movie. Apart from
> > Lata, there are 6 other singers; Suman Kalyanpur, Vani Jairam, Parveen
> > Sultana, Shamshad Begum, Rajkumari and Shoba Gurtu. Are there any other
> > movies where you have 7 female singers?
> >
>
> could you punch in the inlay card of cd giving the mukhda of the songs
> and the singers/ lyricist, and post to us.
In the order of singer(s), MD and lyricist for each song...
1. Inhi logon ne
Lata, Ghulam Mohammed (GM), Majrooh
2. Chalte chalte
Lata, GM, Kaifi Azmi
3. Nazariya ki mari
Rajkumari, Naushad, Traditional
4. Chalo dildar chalo
Lata & Rafi, GM, Kaif Bhopali
5. Thare rahiyo
Lata, GM, Majrooh
6. Kaun gali
Parveen Sultana, Naushad, Traditional
7. Mausam hai aashiqana
Lata, GM, Kamal Amrohi
8. Mora Sajan
Vani Jairam, Naushad, Traditional
9. Teer-E-Nazar
Lata, GM, Kaif Bhopali
10. Yeh kis ki aankhon
Rafi, (not given), Majrooh
11. Hatkar tere qadmon se
Rafi & Shamshad Begum, ??, Kaif Bhopali
12. Leke angrai
Meena Kumari & Suman Kalyanpur, ??, Kaif Bhopali
13. Chalo dildar chalo
Lata, GM, Kaif Bhopali
14. Tanhai sunaya karti hai
Lata, GM??, Kamal Amrohi
15. Peeke chale
Lata, GM??, Majrooh
16. Pyare babul
Lata, GM??, Kaif Bhopali
17. Bandhan Bandho
Shobha Gurtu, ??, ??
I am assuming that for the Lata songs in the CD for which no MD has been
mentioned, the MD is Ghulam Mohammed. Lata was not singing for Naushad at
that time, correct?
Also, there are 4 lyricists and that's a large number too!
A
Srinivas Ganti
"Arun Sampath" <as...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Are there any other
> movies where you have 7 female singers?
Hi Arun,
IIRC theres a movie Saath Saheliyan, in which MD's K-A used 7 female
singers.
--
Srinivas
Mo
Recently I bought a "Classic Films" RPG CD of Pakeezah and one thing
really
stood out. It was the number of female singers in the movie. Apart
from
Lata, there are 6 other singers; Suman Kalyanpur, Vani Jairam, Parveen
other
movies where you have 7 female singers?
Also, there are 17 songs in the CD which is also a large number. I saw
the
movie when I was a kid and I don't remember if there were so many
songs in
the movie. Barring the pre-independence day movies, are there other
movies
with 17 or more songs in them?
Then, on the CD it mentions "Pakeezah Rang-birang". Does anyone know
what
that means?
I didn't know many Lata songs in the movie like "Peeke Chale", "Chalo
dildar
chalo" (Lata Solo version), "Pyaare Babul", "Tanhai sunaya karti hai".
She
sounds younger in these songs than the other popular songs of hers in
the
movie. I remember Chetan telling me that it did take a long time for
the
movie to be made and many songs were actually recorded in the mid-late
sixties though the movie was released in 1972. Does anyone have more
information about this?
A
Ashok
>in any case, you would notice that rafi has only the title two lines
>having a total of seven words "chalo dildar chalo, chand ke paar chalo"
>in that song. rest was lata, lata, lata all the way.
Aah, yes, but Rafi's voice adds magic to the song that is missing in
Lata's solo version, which sounds almost bare.
>everybody speaks about the train letter of rajkumar to meenakumari,
>"aapke paon dekhe, bahut khoobsoorat hai, inhe zameen par mat utariyega,
>maile ho jaayenge".
>
>kamal mentioned in an interview, that the irony was lost on every viewer
>that she was a paid kotha dancer and she has to put her feet on any
>ground where money is paid.
Thanks for this point, too easy to miss.
>my fav is kaifi aazmi's sweet and powerful poetry, defining why urdu is
>such a potent and popular language.:
>chalte chalte,
>yu hi koi mil gaya tha, sar-e-raah chalte chalte,
>wahi tham ke rah gayee hai, meri raat dhalte dhalte.
>
>jo kahi gayee na mujhse wo zamaana keh raha hai
>ke fasana ban gayee hai meri baat chalte chalte.
>
>shab-e-intezaar aakhir kabhi hogi mukhtsar bhi
>ye charaag bujh rahe mere saath chalte chalte.
>
>if anybody wants english translation of the same, i will post.
Please do. You will live long and prosper. Translations are
always welcome--even by Mo! Note, however, that the last line
is almost certainly
ye charaag bujh rahe hai.n mere saath jalte jalte.
Arun Sampath wrote:
>In the order of singer(s), MD and lyricist for each song...
1. Inhi logon ne
Lata, Ghulam Mohammed (GM), Majrooh
2. Chalte chalte
Lata, GM, Kaifi Azmi
3. Nazariya ki mari
Rajkumari, Naushad, Traditional
4. Chalo dildar chalo
Lata & Rafi, GM, Kaif Bhopali
5. Thare rahiyo
Lata, GM, Majrooh
6. Kaun gali
Parveen Sultana, Naushad, Traditional
7. Mausam hai aashiqana
Lata, GM, Kamal Amrohi
8. Mora Sajan
Vani Jairam, Naushad, Traditional
9. Teer-E-Nazar
Lata, GM, Kaif Bhopali
The above songs were in the 'Pakeezah' LP. The
remaining songs were released in an LP titled
'Pakeezah Rang Barang' by EMI in 1977. The CD
says that the music is by Naushad and GM, but the
'Geet Kosh' says that the songs were all composed
by GM.
10. Yeh kis ki aankhon
Rafi, (not given), Majrooh
11. Hatkar tere qadmon se
Rafi & Shamshad Begum, ??, Kaif Bhopali
12. Leke angrai
Meena Kumari & Suman Kalyanpur, ??, Kaif Bhopali
The Suman song is
. gir gai re mori maathe ki bindiyaa
13. Chalo dildar chalo
Lata, GM, Kaif Bhopali
14. Tanhai sunaya karti hai
Lata, GM??, Kamal Amrohi
15. Peeke chale
Lata, GM??, Majrooh
16. Pyare babul
Lata, GM??, Kaif Bhopali
17. Bandhan Bandho
Shobha Gurtu, ??, ??
The LP 'Rang Barang' had one more track that is missing in
the CD, a solo by Shamshad, written by Kaif Bhopali:
koThe sa ba.Daa lambaa hamaaraa bannaa
HMV could have gone for a higher-capacity CD to include this
song. Leastways, if they didn't have the marbles to do that,
they could have dumped the inconsequential Lata solo version of
"chalo dildaar chalo."
Or, if they had to have a Lata track, they could have included
the title music which has a lovely aalaap and taraanaa by Lata.
This can be heard in a cassette that HMV has since put out. I
hope Chetan will give details regarding it.
>I am assuming that for the Lata songs in the CD for which no MD has been
>mentioned, the MD is Ghulam Mohammed. Lata was not singing for Naushad at
>that time, correct?
Don't know about that. Naushad's 'Aaina' came out in 1974 and had Lata.
About Vulcan's other question regarding "ye dhuaa.N kahaa.N se uThataa hai",
let me post an earlier RMIM article, which had, in its turn, included
even earlier RMIM articles!
Ashok
-------------------
In article <852v77$b1g$1...@nclient13-gui.server.virgin.net>, muzafa...@virgin.net says...
>
>Hello All -
>
>Can someone help ... ???
>
>There's a song in the film Pakeezah called 'Yeh Duhan Kahan Se Uthta Hai' -
>it's the background song when Meena Kumari goes to meet her friend (Bibban)
>and they discuss the letter that she found ...
>anyway - the song isn't on ANY of the numerous soundtrack albums
>released -so I was wondering if anyone knows who sang it and if it is
>available anywhere ... !!!
>
>Many thanks in advance.
'Pakeezah' soundtrack is a veritable treasurehouse of music. In addition to the
wonderful songs presented in the customary straightforward style--that is, in their
entirety--a large number of songs were embedded in the in the soundscript throughout.
Quite often more than one song can be heard at the same time! e.g., A song playing
in the bazaar with a different melody wafting in from a nearby kotha or more than
one singer doing riyaaz.
In 1977, HMV released an LP title 'Pakeezah Rang Barang', consisting of a number of
such songs and a variant recording--solo version of "chalo dildaar chalo" and a
recitation by Meena Kumari. I was very pleased when finally I got my hands on it
through the CD that packaged the two together (minus a Shamshad Begum song from
Rang Birang). It presents full versions of a number of gems that one gets to hear
only in snatches, often underlying dialogue or commentary, while watching the film.
But Rang Barang includes only a part of this treasure. For example, it omits even
the lovely taan by Lata during the film credits. If you try to record onto audio
using the video version of the film and include all portions that have interesting
music, it runs to far in excess of an hour and you get only bits and pieces of many
beautiful songs. Assuming that all the songs were recorded in full before being used as
background sound material, I think one would need two full-length CDs to present all
the music (perhaps more). I personally think it would be a more worthwhile project
for Naushad to undertake than some of his recent efforts.
{Another film that was Hollywood-ish in presenting songs in fragments as part of the
background score was the mid-1970s 'Shaq', the last soundtrack of Vasant Desai with
lyrics by Gulzar. Some of the fragments were exquisite. It's another film for which
I would like to see the filmmakers and HMV take the next Hollywood step of releaseing
the soundtrack as CD/cassette with complete versions of these songs.)
One of the gems from 'Pakeezah' yet to be heard in full is the Mir ghazal
"ye dhuaa.N saa kahaa.N se uThataa hai". Not sure who sings it. The scene starts with
"kaun gali gayo shyaam" in the background, which segues into this song. I don't remember
if the film credits gave a complete list of playback singers, but just based on the
released songs, the soundtrack features quite a few female singers. In addition to Lata,
we have: Suman, Vani Jairam, Rajkumari, Shamshad, Parveen, and Shobha Gurtu. (Have I left out any?)
I have never heard a full version of the ghazal. The following exchange --between
Vijay (he of the vijaykuma_r persuasion!) and Yogesh Sethi on ALUP--gives you a potential
soucrce. The opening sher was also discussed by Abhay Avachat, he of the legendary ASAS
series. (Where is he now?)
Ashok
---------------------------
This is the half-century of this series !
And keeping with the tradition (!), it's time for a Sher praising a great Shayar and also for a Sher by GHalib. Of
course, both the
objectives can be met as usual in one Sher :-)
Mehdi Hasan has done a truely fanastic job with this GHazal.
dekh to, dil ki jaaN se uTHataa hai
ye dhuaaN sa, kahaaN se uTHataa hai
So much 'dard' in just one Sher is possible only with 'Mir' Taqi Mir !
But very surprisingly, there are very very few GHazals by Mir which have been sung ! I don't remember anybody
except Mehdi Hasan
singing a GHazal by Mir. What surprises me, is not just because of the fact that Mir is perhaps the greatest of
all the Shayars. But his
GHazals are amazingly simple to understand and appreciate. Also, *music* is integral part of Mir's Shayari. His
style was
conversationalist, using more of Urdu and Hindi than Farasi. And the fluidity, the rhythm is always present.
About his style, the great Zauk (a contemporary of GHalib) said ...
na huaa, par na huaa, 'Mir' ka andaaz naseeb !
'Zauk', yaaroN ne bahut zor, GHazal me maaraa !!
In his compilation of "Deewan-e-Mir", Ali Sardar Jafferey says a lot about Mir's greatness in just one paragraph.
I cannot resist the
temptation of loosely translating it.
Shayar has been given the status of "KHuda ka shishya", and has been placed as "Paigambar" too. But Mir
Taqi Mir is the only
Shayar who is called as "Shayari ka KHuda" !! Mir is not the only one to be called as the greatest ever.
But still it's a fact that Mir
tops the list of Urdu Shayars. Today, Ghalib and Iqbal are more popular than Mir. Their books sell more,
their Shers are more
known. But the greatness of Ghalib and Iqbal has been challenged. But no Shayar in any period has dared to
challenge Mir's
greatness.
What a praise !
And if you are not yet convinced, here is one by GHalib ...
aqeedaa = belief
bakaule-'Naasikh' = according to Naasikh (another poet)
be-bahara = unfortunate/stupid
motakid-e-'Mir' = Mir ke prati shraddha rakhane_waale
'GHalib', apanaa to aqeedaa hai bakaule-'Naasikh'
aap be-bahara haiN, jo motakid-e-'Mir' nahiN
Forget the Urdu, what GHalib says is - if you are not a worshiper of Mir, then you are stupid !!
Now you can sure appreciate, why Mir is so respected !
I would try to find every excuse to post a Mir's sher. Promise.
- Abhay.
ASAD _also_ stands for "A Sher A Day" !
-----------------------
Way back, I think in 1981, I attneded a live concert of Mehdi Hassan in Manchester, UK. He opened 'yeh dhUaaN sa
kahaN se uthta hai'
with a dohaa by Miira. I can't remember the words but it was a very
impressive mix of shudh hindi merging 'dhUaaN like' into urdu. Never heard it on any recording since.
Vijay Kumar
In article <7vq2gf$9ua$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
yogesh...@my-deja.com wrote:
After such a glowing description, my curiosity was aroused! I finally located, at least, a similar rendition. It
was worth the trouble. Mehdi
Hassan is at his very best here and the blending part is indeed quite extraordinary. The transition from 'dukh' to
dekh' gives it a very
smooth touch. Here is how the opening goes:
bastii
bastii khaak bhii hai
ja.ngal me.n
ja.ngal me.n aa mitu_aa
balkhaataa uThe jaise kaale naag
dukh to dil ke jaa.n se uThataa hai
dekh to dil ke jaa.n se uThataa hai
ye dhu_aa.n saa kahaa.n se uThataa hai
There does not appear to be much in the initial words. But listening to it, from the master, is another
experience. I found this
remarkable composition under the title 'The best of Mehdi Hassan', Music India, CDNF 031, 1996.
Regards,
Yogesh Sethi
Excellent Yogesh sahib, excellent. I have heard this version but could never make out the words of the opener. I
am still not quite clear
about the first line and a half. But I agree that that the transition to 'dekh to dil ke jaaN se uthta hai' is
magical. Would anyone happen to
know if the words occur in same or similar form in any dohaa by Miiraa? It is more than likely that this is the
version Mehdii Hassan
sang in the concert I alluded to. BTW, isn't it 'Bastii bastii
Khak 'uRe' hai'?
Thanks,
Respectfully,
Vijay Kumar
--------------------------
ned2468
Hassan. It was the same ghazal sung in the same melody but in a different style
by Parveen Sultana or Shobha Gurtu. I own Pakeezah at home and it was used in
the background music.
Yours,
Sandip
UrduAshiq
"dil ki baat kahi nahi jaati, chupke
rehna thana hai"
Prem
Abhay
vulca...@mailandnews.com wrote:
> <snip>
> everybody speaks about the train letter of rajkumar to meenakumari,
> "aapke paon dekhe, bahut khoobsoorat hai, inhe zameen par mat
utariyega,
> maile ho jaayenge".
>
> kamal mentioned in an interview, that the irony was lost on every
viewer
> that she was a paid kotha dancer and she has to put her feet on any
> ground where money is paid.
An amazing claim by the director, for he does not give the viewer a
chance to miss the "irony"! There is a scene fairly early in the movie
where Saahib Jaan (Meena Kumari) goes to see a friend and tells her
about the note. The friend tells her, "us waqt tere pairo.n me.n
ghu.Ngaruu nahii.n ba.Ndhe ho.nge, waranaa koii kaise kahataa ke inhe.n
zamii.n pe mat utaariyegaa?" Or words to that effect.
Kamaal Amrohi was not one for subtlety: be it the "Madam" of the kotha
(Nadira) clipping the parrot's wings to make sure it couldn't fly off
again, or Saahib Jaan's dancing feet spreading blood all over the
courtyard of her father's house, or Shahaabuddin's (Ashok Kumar) coffin
playing the stellar role at his daughter's nikaah, he made his point
with the delicacy of a sledgehammer.
Warm regards,
Abhay
Abhay
vulca...@mailandnews.com
>
> >I am assuming that for the Lata songs in the CD for which no MD has been
> >mentioned, the MD is Ghulam Mohammed. Lata was not singing for Naushad at
> >that time, correct?
>
> Don't know about that. Naushad's 'Aaina' came out in 1974 and had Lata.
>
for that matter lata did sung in pakeezah itself, aaj hum apni duaao ka
asar dekhenge, which, i have read somewhere, was composed by naushad, as
is also quite noticeable from courtesan beats of instruments so like
naushad, and so unlike any other song of pakeezah.
people say that in this climax song meena really danced barefoot on the
broken chandellier glass and all that blood shining on the white
mattresses were meena kumari's real blood. could somebody add.
Lata not singing for naushad is a news for me. could you please fill me
more on it. the only negations i know is that.
1. lata never sang for OP nayyar.
2. lata had some tussle with SD berman and had not sung for him for a
long time. better sense prevailed since "allah tero naam" from hum dono.
3. lata boycotted for some time that md (was it KA) who got that bangla
desh singer (runa laila) sing the title song of "ek se badh kar ek".
regards.
-vulcan
vulca...@mailandnews.com
> This is the half-century of this series !
>
> I cannot resist the
> temptation of loosely translating it.
Hello abhay,
WHAT A COINCIDENCE.
today's newspaper (16/7) sadly mentions that shayar ali sardar jafferey
is suffering from brain tumour admitted in Mumbai hospital Room No 72/73
on 10th floor for last one month.
he is totally unable of speaking. he is not able to eat easily.
there are hardly any visitor except veteran shayars of his tenure, and
also Shabana aazmi whom he knew from her childhood.
what to say. so many of his contribution to the world of ghazals.
i urge to the power that be, to make him recover to his full potentail
soon.
regards.
-vulcan
>
> Shayar has been given the status of "KHuda ka shishya", and has been placed as "Paigambar" too. But Mir
> Taqi Mir is the only
> Shayar who is called as "Shayari ka KHuda" !! Mir is not the only one to be called as the greatest ever.
> But still it's a fact that Mir
> tops the list of Urdu Shayars. Today, Ghalib and Iqbal are more popular than Mir. Their books sell more,
> their Shers are more
> known. But the greatness of Ghalib and Iqbal has been challenged. But no Shayar in any period has dared to
> challenge Mir's
> greatness.
>
> What a praise !
>
> - Abhay.
> ASAD _also_ stands for "A Sher A Day" !
> -----------------------
>
vulca...@mailandnews.com
Hi Ashok,
million thanks for posting such a great treasure of mails from your
archive.
>
> the lovely taan by Lata during the film credits.
wow, that was superb. words can never describe that. if you miss it,
that aalap is included in hmv cassette of the film SPHO 830014 economy
dtd 5/94.
just curious, is there any newsgroup member who has not seen pakeezah?
guy, you have missed three hours of pure bliss.
:) but guys below 25 yrs are forgiven.
> One of the gems from 'Pakeezah' yet to be heard in full is the Mir ghazal
> "ye dhuaa.N saa kahaa.N se uThataa hai". Not sure who sings it.
>
> I have never heard a full version of the ghazal. The following exchange --between
> Vijay (he of the vijaykuma_r persuasion!) and Yogesh Sethi on ALUP--gives you a potential
> soucrce. The opening sher was also discussed by Abhay Avachat, he of the legendary ASAS
> series. (Where is he now?)
>
what is ALUP. how to access this and ASAS, (a sher a shayar? or what)
> ---------------------------
> This is the half-century of this series !
>
> And keeping with the tradition (!), it's time for a Sher praising a great Shayar and also for a Sher by GHalib. Of
> course, both the
> objectives can be met as usual in one Sher :-)
>
> Mehdi Hasan has done a truely fanastic job with this GHazal.
>
> dekh to, dil ki jaaN se uTHataa hai
> ye dhuaaN sa, kahaaN se uTHataa hai
>
> So much 'dard' in just one Sher is possible only with 'Mir' Taqi Mir !
i would conside this as the best ghazal by mehandi hassan, topping in
its simplicity and laconicity among stiff competition.
> But very surprisingly, there are very very few GHazals by Mir which have been sung ! I don't remember anybody except Mehdi Hasan
> singing a GHazal by Mir.
begum akhtar has sung Mir. "ulti ho gayee sab tadbeere kuchh na dawa ne
kaam kiya".
lata has sung mir in "dikhaee diye" of bazaar.
in kahkashaan, jagjit singh must also have sung at least one, though i
could not lay my hands on the cassette right now.
and there should be more by rafi, lata and ghulam ali. anybody?
>What surprises me, is not just because of the fact that Mir is perhaps the greatest of
> all the Shayars. But his
> GHazals are amazingly simple to understand and appreciate.
simple? nope. but your urdu must be superb. for me he wrote very cryptic
lines, though worth every word. the time you need spend in finding out
the meaning of the words and in understanding the concept is well paid
once you understand the lines. remain drenched in the meaning for weeks.
> In his compilation of "Deewan-e-Mir", Ali Sardar Jafferey says a lot about Mir's greatness in just one paragraph.
>
heard that Mir was laid down to rest in Lucknow (my place of birth), and
today a road or raliway track was passing right above his qabr. could
somebody add.
> Now you can sure appreciate, why Mir is so respected !
> I would try to find every excuse to post a Mir's sher. Promise.
>
only a sher? no excuse is needed to add full ghazal. that one itself.
:-)
> dekh to, dil ki jaaN se uTHataa hai
> ye dhuaaN sa, kahaaN se uTHataa hai
gor kis diljale ki hai ye falaq (gor=qabr, falaq: sky)
shola ek subha yaa se uthtaa hai (reference to Sun rising and setting)
baithne kaun de hai phir usko
jo tere aastaa se uthta hai (aastaa: aangan, quadrangle?)
yu uthey, aah, us gali hum
jaise koi, jahaa se uthta hai (merhabaaaaaaaaa)
sudh le kuchh ghar bhi shola-e-awaaz
dood kuchh ashiyaan se uthta hai (dood: smoke, ashiyaan: nest)
ishq ek, mir, bhaari patthar hai
kab ye tujh naa tuwa se uthta hai (naa tuwa: weak in health)
> - Abhay.
> ASAD _also_ stands for "A Sher A Day" !
> -----------------------
>
> Way back, I think in 1981, I attneded a live concert of Mehdi Hassan in Manchester, UK. He opened 'yeh dhUaaN sa kahaN se uthta hai'
> with a dohaa by Miira. I can't remember the words but it was a very
> impressive mix of shudh hindi merging 'dhUaaN like' into urdu. Never heard it on any recording since.
>
in one of the version of the ghazal, mehandi hassan sings "dhuaan" at
least half a dozen different ways. saying that he is trying to portray
the ways he has seen smoke coming out of a burning or just extinguished
candle.
he is a genius not for nothing.
> Vijay Kumar
>
> yogesh...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> extraordinary. The transition from 'dukh' to
> dekh' gives it a very
> smooth touch. Here is how the opening goes:
>
> bastii
> bastii khaak bhii hai
> ja.ngal me.n
> ja.ngal me.n aa mitu_aa
> balkhaataa uThe jaise kaale naag
> dukh to dil ke jaa.n se uThataa hai
>
> dekh to dil ke jaa.n se uThataa hai
> ye dhu_aa.n saa kahaa.n se uThataa hai
>
superb. yogesh!
>
> Yogesh Sethi
>
>
> Excellent Yogesh sahib, excellent. I have heard this version but could never make out the words of the opener.
> sang in the concert I alluded to. BTW, isn't it 'Bastii bastii
> Khak 'uRe' hai'?
>
>
> Vijay Kumar
> --------------------------
>
regards
-vulcan
vulca...@mailandnews.com
Hi Sandip and ashok,
thanks for clarifying. i have seen the movie several times but last was
at least 5 years ago. i remembered the ghazal very vividly being played
in the background. somehow i messed up in wrongly identifying that it
was by mehandi hassan.
i wonder why this was not included in the cd/cassette with arun. thanks
a lot arun, for posting the inlay card.
music in Pakeezah and its appropriate placement leaves you in a trance
never willing to come out of. all forms of music were there.
it will be a pleasure to know which contribution were by great Naushad
and which were by ghulam mohammed.
has Naushad given background music in any other film?
i see several members using mehdi hassan. shouldn't it be mehandi
hassan?
regards.
vulca...@mailandnews.com
thanks for the correction.
here is my attempt of translation.
regards
-vulcan
---------------
Song: chalte chalte
film: pakeezah
musicdirector: gulam mohammed
songwriter: kaifi aazmi
singer: lata mangeshkar
chalte chalte, chalte chalte
yu hi, koi mil gaya tha, sar-e-raah chalte chalte,
(just like that, somebody came across me, on the way while i was
wandering aimlessly here and there)
(= here "chalte, chalte" means living the life)
wahi tham ke rah gayee hai, meri raat dhalte dhalte.
(my night, which was reclining, has halted at that very juncture)
(= a paid dancer performs only in nights. here "the night" means her
life. my life which was going to end has stopped progressing any
further)
jo kahi gayee na mujhse wo zamaana keh raha hai
(what i myself could never utter, entire world is now talking about
that)
ke fasana ban gayee hai meri baat chalte chalte.
(what was just in my mind has become a story known to everybody)
shab-e-intezaar aakhir kabhi hogi mukhtsar bhi
(will the night of awaiting be ever turn any shorter afterall)
ye charaag bujh rahe hai.n mere saath jalte jalte.
(even these earthen lamps are getting extinguished having burnt
alongwith me)
------------------
vulca...@mailandnews.com
i am translating the lyrics of songs composed by my favourite A R
RAHMAN. motivated by great efforts in "ye geet yaad rakhna", i felt like
sharing the same with fellow music angels in the newsgroup.
if any of you want the same in hindi font (text in shusha font, or in
gif) please do write.
there are 160 songs from 28 hindi releases. how frequently should i
post. will two songs a week be comfortable for you.
hope you like it. kindly give me feedback and corrections freely.
regards.
-vulcan
PS: yeah, it is copyleft for ITRANS people for their great service.
----------------------
Song: ye jo jindagi hai
film: 1947 Earth
musicdirector: a r rahman
songwriter: javed akhtar
singer: srinivas, sujata trivedi, sukhvindara singh, chorus
jo afsaane dil ne bune
(whatever stories, heart has woven (written) )
unko koi dil hi sune
(those should be heard only by some other heart) (= it will not make any
sense to anyone else)
hum haule haule pyaar ki dhundhali fizaao mein aaye
(we, slowly-slowly, arrive into the hazy surroundings of love)
gahre gahre hai khaab ki neeli ghatao ke saaye
(shadows cast by the blue clouds of dreams are deep)
ham tum dono, khoye khoye
(you and I, both are unaware (of ourselves) )
sapne dekhe, jaage soye
(dreaming, (whether) slept, (whether) awake)
gumsum, hairaa
(indifferent, amazed)
ye jo jindagi hai, koi daasta hai, kab hoga kya, ye khabar kaha hai
(this life is some story, when, what will happen, this information is
not there)
ye jo jindagi hai, koi kaaravan hai, kaha jayegi, ye khabar kaha hai
(this life is some caravan, where it will reach, this information is not
there)
ye jo jindagi hai, koi daasta hai, kab hoga kya, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi kaaravan hai, kaha jayegi, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi daasta hai, kab hoga kya, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi kaaravan hai, kaha jayegi, ye khabar kaha hai
bahti hai chingariya jaise, sar se paao tak nas nas mein
(as if sparks are flowing in all my veins, from head to feet)
halka halka hosh hai lekin, kuchh bhi nahi ab mere bas mein
(I am partially conscious, but, not a single thing is under my control)
mere ang ang mein, bechaini, bijali ban ke lahraye
(in my every limb, restlessness is wavering like electricity)
ek meethe meethe dard ka, baadal, tan man par chhaye
(cloud of a sweat pain has shadowed my body and mind)
sanse ulajhe, dharke hai dil, jaane kaise meri mushkil, hogi aasa
(breathing is confused, yet heart beats, how my difficulty will get
resolved)
ye jo jindagi hai, koi daasta hai, kab hoga kya, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi kaaravan hai, kaha jayegi, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi daasta hai, kab hoga kya, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi kaaravan hai, kaha jayegi, ye khabar kaha hai
------------------------
jo afsaane dil ne bune
unko koi dil hi sune
hum haule haule pyaar ki dhundhali fizaao mein aaye
gahre gahre hai khaab ki neeli ghatao ke saaye
ham tum dono, khoye khoye
sapne dekhe, jaage soye
gumsum, hairaa
ye jo jindagi hai, koi daasta hai, kab hoga kya, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi kaaravan hai, kaha jayegi, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi daasta hai, kab hoga kya, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi kaaravan hai, kaha jayegi, ye khabar kaha hai
arey kaash meri in aankho ki, ab roshani bujh jaaye
(I wish that my eyes loose their capability to see)
maine dekha tha jo khaab vo, mujhko na kabhi yaad aaye
(may i not be able to recall whatever dream i had seen)
aise barse gam ke teeshe, toote dil ke saare sheeshe
(fire of sorrow rained in such a way, (that) the glasshouse of my heart
has collapsed)
dil hai veera
(heart stands deserted)
ye jo jindagi hai, koi daasta hai, kab hoga kya, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi kaaravan hai, kaha jayegi, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi daasta hai, kab hoga kya, ye khabar kaha hai
ye jo jindagi hai, koi kaaravan hai, kaha jayegi, ye khabar kaha hai
---------------------
Ashok
>
>thanks for clarifying. i have seen the movie several times but last was
>at least 5 years ago. i remembered the ghazal very vividly being played
>in the background. somehow i messed up in wrongly identifying that it
>was by mehandi hassan.
>
>i wonder why this was not included in the cd/cassette with arun. thanks
>a lot arun, for posting the inlay card.
As I mentioned in my post, this song, like many others in the film,
is in a fragmentary form in the actual soundtrack of the film. For
these to become available as full songs, it would need to be the
case that the full song was recorded and the master-tapes were
saved. Then, of course, there will need to be some enlightened
soul as the business decision-maker.
Thanks for the translation of the 'Pakeezah' song.
>it will be a pleasure to know which contribution were by great Naushad
>and which were by ghulam mohammed.
"Great Naushad" and "ghulm mohammed"?
Read the post again. The breakdown for the songs released as
'Pakeezah' LP are given by HMV and they correspond to the information
in the Geet Kosh. As for the songs in the "Rang Barang", according
to Geet Kosh, which has been extremely reliable, all the songs were
composed by the "truly great, but unsung, music director" Ghulam
Mohammed. While 'Pakeezah' was the swansong of Ghulam Mohammed,
for the so-called "Great Naushad", 'Pakeezah' was his last hurrah;
there is nothing after that that you can listen to without feeling
embarrassed.
>has Naushad given background music in any other film?
Why the question? I assume he composed the background music for
all films that bear his name. Am I wrong?
>i see several members using mehdi hassan. shouldn't it be mehandi
>hassan?
It is "Mehdi" ("guided").
>for that matter lata did sung in pakeezah itself, aaj hum apni duaao ka
>asar dekhenge, which, i have read somewhere, was composed by naushad, as
>is also quite noticeable from courtesan beats of instruments so like
>naushad, and so unlike any other song of pakeezah.
Read Arun's post again. The song was composed by the truly great, not
the pretender.
>people say that in this climax song meena really danced barefoot on the
>broken chandellier glass and all that blood shining on the white
>mattresses were meena kumari's real blood. could somebody add.
You need a reality check! As far as Meenakumari's dancing prowess goes,
she could make "seedhaa aangan" appear "Te.Dha".
>Lata not singing for naushad is a news for me. could you please fill me
>more on it. the only negations i know is that.
>
>1. lata never sang for OP nayyar.
>
>2. lata had some tussle with SD berman and had not sung for him for a
>long time. better sense prevailed since "allah tero naam" from hum dono.
The only way SD Burman could "compose" that gem would be if he
had Jaidev as the assistant and decided not to interfere! Something
like that might have happened many times in other films and with
Jaidev and other assistants, but fortunately Jaidev did get the
credit for 'Hum Dono.'
>3. lata boycotted for some time that md (was it KA) who got that bangla
>desh singer (runa laila) sing the title song of "ek se badh kar ek".
Can you tell us more about this? Both Runa and Lata sing in that film.
And Lata kept singing for them soon after that. Never mind that the
music was trivial, e.g., 'Heera Aur Patthar', 'Khel Kismat Ka', etc.
>regards.
>-vulcan
>what is ALUP. how to access this
ALUP is the newsgroup: alt.language.urdu.poetry
Some service providers carry it. If not, it is a bit cumbersome, but
you can access it via www.deja.com.
>and ASAS, (a sher a shayar? or what)
Sorry, this was an error on my part. A.S.A.D was a series on
the newsgroup during its halcyon days, written by Abhay Avachat.
His signoff message used to be:
ASAD _also_ stands for "A Sher A Day" !
Vulcan can take it as an exercise to answer the question:
what else does "ASAD" stand for?
Some details on the series below from a post by UV Ravindra, who
had done a yeoman's service by putting up the ASAD series on the
web. Unfortunatey, both he and the website seem to have disappeared.
I hope he reads this and makes amends.
-----------------------
The 'ASAD Web Page,' comprising all (60) articles of Abhay Avachat's
popular RMIM series "A Sher A Day [ASAD!]" is now available on the
net. The URL is
http://tata_elxsi.soft.net/~uvr/asadindex.html
Please note that it's an 'underscore' character you have out there,
not a 'hyphen.'
For non-RMIMers:
The sixty (60) excellently written and eminently readable articles
contained in this page were posted from the inimitable pen of Abhay
Avachat on the Rec.Music.Indian.Misc (RMIM) newsgroup. Besides
providing an interesting analysis of several common and not-so-common
shers, these articles also go a long way in increasing the readers'
appreciation of GHazals, sher-s and shaa'iri.
Thanks are due to Samiuddin Mohammed, Pavan Kumar Desikan and Arun
Verma, and a whole host of other RMIMers, for giving this page the
preliminary once over.
Connect! Peruse!! Enjoy!!!
Regards,
Ravindra.
---------------------
Ashok
PS: To my surprise, I just found out that the webpage
Abhay Avachat himself had started functions:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftBank/4797/index.html
Enjoy!
Arun Sampath
@mailandnews.com writes...
>
> >in any case, you would notice that rafi has only the title two lines
> >having a total of seven words "chalo dildar chalo, chand ke paar chalo"
> >in that song. rest was lata, lata, lata all the way.
>
> Aah, yes, but Rafi's voice adds magic to the song that is missing in
> Lata's solo version, which sounds almost bare.
Lata's solo version does sound bare but I am not sure if Rafi adds magic to
the duet. Lata herself sounds a lot better in the duet version than her
solo.
The CD
> says that the music is by Naushad and GM, but the
> 'Geet Kosh' says that the songs were all composed
> by GM.
Even the ones that are credited to Naushad (Kaun gali, nazariya ki mari
etc)??
> 12. Leke angrai
> Meena Kumari & Suman Kalyanpur, ??, Kaif Bhopali
>
> The Suman song is
>
> . gir gai re mori maathe ki bindiyaa
That's right. Before Suman sings those lines, there is a brief recitation by
Meena Kumari which starts off with "Leke angrai". Interestingly, this song
is never featured in the movie either as a foreground or as a background
song. Considering Meena Kumari's recitation, I thought it might figure
somewhere in the movie.
> >I am assuming that for the Lata songs in the CD for which no MD has been
> >mentioned, the MD is Ghulam Mohammed. Lata was not singing for Naushad at
> >that time, correct?
>
> Don't know about that. Naushad's 'Aaina' came out in 1974 and had Lata.
I remember having read in Raju Bharatan's book that Lata had a tiff with
Naushad and they came back together after decades in a movie in the early
90s (I can't remember the name right now.) I don't know when it started
though. Does anyone know more about this?
> 'Pakeezah' soundtrack is a veritable treasurehouse of music. In addition
to the
> wonderful songs presented in the customary straightforward style--that
is, in their
> entirety--a large number of songs were embedded in the in the soundscript
throughout.
> Quite often more than one song can be heard at the same time! e.g., A
song playing
> in the bazaar with a different melody wafting in from a nearby kotha or
more than
> one singer doing riyaaz.
In fact, Vani's "Mora Sajan" and Parveen's "Kaun Gali" are played
simultaneously in the background. However I didn't find Rafi's solo, Rafi's
duet with Shamshad and any of Lata's solo tracks of the Pakeeszah
Rang-Birang being played at anytime in the movie. Does anyone have a
complete listing of all the songs played in the movie? There were 3-4
background songs at least (may be more) that I haven't heard before. I
thought I recognized Rajkumari's voice in a couple of them but I might be
wrong. Anybody??
A
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have seen the movie and can comment on it ..
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"Arun Sampath" <as...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I remember having read in Raju Bharatan's book that Lata had a tiff
with
> Naushad and they came back together after decades in a movie in the
early
> 90s (I can't remember the name right now.) I don't know when it
started
> though. Does anyone know more about this?
>
That would be 'teri payal mere geet'. Lata had two solos.
I don't remember reading about any "tiff" between Lata and Naushad.
I remember the book mentions Lata thought Naushad was past his peak
and decided that she was not going to sing for him any more. I guess
she reconsidered when she herself went past her peak.
--
Cheers,
Anil P. Hingorani
vulca...@mailandnews.com
Song: ruth aa gai re
film: 1947 Earth
musicdirector: a r rahman
songwriter: javed akhtar
singer: sukhvindara singh, chorus
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
(oh! the season has come, oh! the season has spread allover)
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
peeli peeli sarso phoole
(yellow musturd has flowered)
peele peele patte jhume
(yellow leaves are swinging)
peehu peehu papiha bole
(the sparrow hawk is cooing)
chal baag mein
(come (with me) to the garden)
dhamak dhamak dholak baaje
(the drums are sounding)
chhanak chhanak payal chhanke
(an ornament (worn on ankles) is sounding)
khanak khanak kangna bole
(the bracelet is sounding)
chal baag mein
(come (with me) to the garden)
chunari jo teri urhati hai, urh jaane de
(if your scarf is flying away, let it fly away)
bindiya jo teri girati hai, gir jaane de
(if your ornament (wore on forehead) falls, let it fall)
chunari jo teri urhati hai, urh jaane de
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
geeto ki mauj aayi
(a wave of songs has arrived)
phoolo ki fauj aayi
(an army of flowers has arrived)
nadiya mein jo dhoop ghuli, sona baha
(when sunlight got dissolved into the river, (giving the color as if)
gold has flown)
ambuaa se hai lipati, ek bel bele ki
(a creeper of jasmine has coiled around the mango tree)
tu hi mujhse hai door, aa paas aa
(only you are at a distance from me, come near)
mujhko tu sanso se chhoo le
(you touch me with your breaths)
jhool in baaho ke jhoole
(swing in the swings made of these arms)
pyaar thoda sa mujhe de ke
(give me a little love)
mere jaan-o-dil tu le
(you take my life and heart)
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
peeli peeli sarso phoole
peele peele patte jhume
peehu peehu papiha bole
chal baag mein
dhamak dhamak dholak baaje
chhanak chhanak payal chhanke
khanak khanak kangna bole
chal baag mein
chunari jo teri urhati hai, urh jaane de
bindiya jo teri girati hai, gir jaane de
chunari jo teri urhati hai, urh jaane de
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
tu jab yu sajati hai
(when you get decorated like this)
ek dhoom machati hai
(a pandemonium commences)
saari galiyo mein, saare baajar mein
(in every street, in every market)
a(n)chal basanti hai, usme se chhanati hai
(the end of saari is the color of spring season, it filters from that)
jo maine pooji hai, moorat tihare mein
(that statue in your, which i have worshipped)
jaane kaisi hai ye dori
(don't know what is this thread)
main bandha hu jis se gori
(with which i have got tied, o faircolor)
tere naino ne meri neendo ki kar li hai chori
(your eyes have stolen my sleeps)
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
peeli peeli sarso phoole
peele peele patte jhume
peehu peehu papiha bole
chal baag mein
haa dhamak dhamak dholak baaje
chhanak chhanak payal chhanke
khanak khanak kangna bole
chal baag mein
chunari jo teri urhati hai, urh jaane de
bindiya jo teri girati hai, gir jaane de
chunari jo teri urhati hai, urh jaane de
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re, rut chhaa gai re
rut aa gai re
rut aa gai re
-------------------
vulca...@mailandnews.com
>
hi ashok,
thanks for the elaborate and informative reply.
> Thanks for the translation of the 'Pakeezah' song.
at your service, always. :)
it is my pleasure.
> >it will be a pleasure to know which contribution were by great Naushad
> >and which were by ghulam mohammed.
>
> "Great Naushad" and "ghulm mohammed"?
> all the songs were
> composed by the "truly great, but unsung, music director" Ghulam
> Mohammed.
point noted. that was not meant to offend. so my unqualified apologies.
probably i got confused in celebrated and greatness. you summed the
spirit beautifully in "truly great, but unsung, music director".
> While 'Pakeezah' was the swansong of Ghulam Mohammed,
> for the so-called "Great Naushad", 'Pakeezah' was his last hurrah;
> there is nothing after that that you can listen to without feeling
> embarrassed.
he did give obscure films like dharam kanta, chambal ki rani, and i
guess, abhi to main jawaan hu, that i am able to recall off hand, but
nothing great compared to the old greatness of naushad.
i wonder if "aaeena" (mirror) was pre or post pakeezah, i think it was
composed by naushad. not great there also.
were there any more?
> >has Naushad given background music in any other film?
>
> Why the question? I assume he composed the background music for
> all films that bear his name. Am I wrong?
>
oh that. you are from that generation :) :) when md's used to give bgm
of their own films.
i meant, had naushad composed only bgm and not the music of any other
film.
> >i see several members using mehdi hassan. shouldn't it be mehandi
> >hassan?
>
> It is "Mehdi" ("guided").
>
thanks. for my graying hairs, :( that is a new word added to my vocab.
and to think that i am hearing and liking mehdi hassan for last 15
years. i thought it is mehandi as in henna.
> The only way SD Burman could "compose" that gem would be if he
> had Jaidev as the assistant and decided not to interfere! Something
> like that might have happened many times in other films and with
> Jaidev and other assistants, but fortunately Jaidev did get the
> credit for 'Hum Dono.'
could anybody add on that.
> >3. lata boycotted for some time that md (was it KA) who got that bangla
> >desh singer (runa laila) sing the title song of "ek se badh kar ek".
>
> Can you tell us more about this? Both Runa and Lata sing in that film.
> And Lata kept singing for them soon after that. Never mind that the
> music was trivial, e.g., 'Heera Aur Patthar', 'Khel Kismat Ka', etc.
>
nope. only rumours read in film mags of that era.
> Vulcan can take it as an exercise to answer the question:
> what else does "ASAD" stand for?
as in, gham-e-hasti ka asad kis se ho juz marg ilaaz.
or, maine majnoo pe ladakpan mein asad,
-ullah khan ghalib, to name the most celebrated one.
> Some details on the series below from a post by UV Ravindra, who
> had done a yeoman's service by putting up the ASAD series on the
> web. Unfortunatey, both he and the website seem to have disappeared.
> I hope he reads this and makes amends.
well, where are RMIM archive located, we can pick again from there and
reconstruct. what time frame was it.
> Ashok
>
> PS: To my surprise, I just found out that the webpage
> Abhay Avachat himself had started functions:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftBank/4797/index.html
>
regards.
vulca...@mailandnews.com
enjoy.
-vulcan
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Song: dheemi dheemi
film: 1947 Earth
musicdirector: a r rahman
songwriter: javed akhtar
singer: hariharan
dheemi dheemi, bheeni bheeni, khushboo hai, tera badan
(slow, slow, mild, mild, your body is a frangrance)
sulage, mahke, pighale, dahake
(it gets kindled, it give fragrance, it gets molten, it gives warmth)
kyo na bahake, mera man
(why shouldn't my mind get misled)
sulage, mahke, pighale, dahake, kyo na bahake, mera man
vo chali hawa, ki nasha ghula
(such a breeze has started to flow, that intoxicant has got dissolved)
hai sama bhi jaise dhuaa dhuaa
(the environment has also become smokey, smokey)
tera roop hai, ki ye dhoop hai
(such is your beauty, as if a sunlight)
khule baal hai, ki hai badaliya
((these are your) unclasped hairs, or these are some clouds)
tu jo paas hai, mujhe pyaas hai, tere jism ka ahsaas hai
(as you are near, i have a thirst, i am aware of your body)
tu jo paas hai, mujhe pyaas hai, tere jism ka ahsaas hai
tu jo paas hai, mujhe pyaas hai
dheemi dheemi, bheeni bheeni, khushboo hai, tera badan
sulage, mahke, pighale, dahake, kyo na bahake, mera man
sulage, mahke, pighale, dahake, kyo na bahake, mera man
saans bhi jaise, ruk si jaati hai
(as if breathing also, almost halts)
tu jo paas aaye to aanch aati hai
(when you come near, i feel the heat (of your body))
dil ki dhadkan bhi, mere seene mein, ladkhadati hai
(in my chest, heartbeats also, stumble)
ye tera tan badan, kaisi hai ye agan
(this is your body, what is this fire)
thandak hai jism, tu vo aag hai
(your body is a fire which is cool)
balkhati hai jo tu, laharati hai jo tu
(when you walk twisted, when you walk wavering)
lagata hai ye badan ek raag hai
(it appears that your body is a melody)
vo chali hawa, ki nasha ghula
hai sama bhi jaise dhuaa dhuaa
tera roop hai, ki ye dhoop hai
khule baal hai, ki hai badaliya
tu jo paas hai, mujhe pyaas hai, tere jism ka ahsaas hai
tu jo paas hai, mujhe pyaas hai, tere jism ka ahsaas hai
tu jo paas hai, mujhe pyaas hai
dheemi dheemi, bheeni bheeni, khushboo hai, tera badan
sulage, mahke, pighale, dahake, kyo na bahake, mera man
sulage, mahke, pighale, dahake, kyo na bahake, mera man
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Song: raat ki daldal hai
film: 1947 Earth
musicdirector: a r rahman
songwriter: javed akhtar
singer: sukhvindara singh
raat ki daldal hai gaarhi re gaarhi re
(oh! the quicksand of night is concentrated)
dhadkan ki chale kaise gaadi re gaadi re
(how the vehicle of heartbeats is to continue)
raat ki daldal hai gaarhi re gaarhi re
dhadkan ki chale kaise gaadi re gaadi re
sahami sahami hai dishaye
(the directions are frightened)
jaise kuchh khone ko hai
(as if something is going to be lost)
saans roke hai hawaye
(the air has halted breathing)
jaane kya hone ko hai
(whatever is going to happen)
sahami sahami hai dishaye, jaise kuchh khone ko hai
saans roke hai hawaye, jaane kya hone ko hai
maut chhupi jhadi jhadi re jhadi re
(death is hiding in every shrub)
arey raat ki daldal hai gaarhi re gaarhi re
dhadkan ki chale kaise gaadi re gaadi re
dil ke aangan mein hain phaile
(in the quadrangle of heart have spread)
saaye kaise khauf ke
(the shadows of terror)
ro rahe hai yu andhere
(the darkness are crying in such a way)
kaanp jaaye jo sune
(that whoever might be listening will shiver)
dil ke aangan mein hain phaile, saaye kaise khauf ke
ro rahe hai yu andhere, kaanp jaaye jo sune
doobi samay ki hai naadi re naadi re
( the pulse of time has sunk) (time has died)
o raat ki daldal hai gaarhi re gaarhi re
dhadkan ki chale kaise gaadi re gaadi re
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posted to RMIM on Sun 13/08/2000
Song: ishwar allah
film: 1947 Earth
musicdirector: a r rahman
songwriter: javed akhtar
iswar allah tere jaha mein
(O God! in the world created by you)
nafrat kyo hai, jung hai kyo?
(why there is hatred, why wars break out)
tera dil to itna bada hai
(your heart is all accomodating)
insaa ka dil tang hai kyo?
(why humans are pursuing narrow self-interests)
iswar allah tere jaha mein, nafrat kyo hai, jung hai kyo?
tera dil to itna bada hai, insaa ka dil tang hai kyo?
kadam kadam par sarhad kyo hai
(why boundaries of nations have creeped up on every step)
sari jamee jo teri hai
(when the entire land belongs only to you)
sooraj ke phere karti hai
(it is revolving around the (glazing) sun)
phir kyo itni andheri hai
(then why there is so much darkness (of feelings on earth) )
is duniya ke daaman par
(why the attire of this world)
insaa ke lahoo ka rang hai kyo
(has got spotted by human blood)
iswar allah tere jaha mein, nafrat kyo hai, jung hai kyo?
tera dil to itna bada hai, insaa ka dil tang hai kyo?
goonj rahi hai kitni cheekhe
(how many screams are echoing)
pyaar ki baate kaun sune
(that nobody is able to hear to the messages of love)
toot rahe hai kitne sapne
(how many dreams are getting broken)
inke tukde kaun chune
(that nobody cares to sort out their pieces)
dil ke darwajo par taale
(locked are the doors of heart)
taalo par ye jang hai kyo
(why these locks have got rusted (so that heart doesn't open anymore))
iswar allah tere jaha mein, nafrat kyo hai, jung hai kyo?
tera dil to itna bada hai, insaa ka dil tang hai kyo?
SKalra902
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>Song: dheemi dheemi
>film: 1947 Earth
>musicdirector: a r rahman
>songwriter: javed akhtar
>singer: hariharan
>
>dheemi dheemi, bheeni bheeni, khushboo hai, tera badan
>(slow, slow, mild, mild, your body is a frangrance)
I believe the starting words are "bheeni bheeni, bheenie bheenie, khusboo hai
...."
Ddheemie dheemie referes to a slow pace, if one is going in for a walk, for
example.
Bheenie bheenie, on the other hand, refers to the mild or low 'sharpness' or
'pungency' (for lack of better words) of the fragrance emanating from a
'pefume', or as in the case of this song, from the body of the beloved.
Sorry for the delay in posting.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
vulca...@mailandnews.com
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film: Bombay
song: tu hi re
musicdirector: a r rahman
songwriter: mehboob
singer: hariharan, kavita krishnamurthy
tu hi re tu hi re tere bina main kaise jiyu
(only you, only you, without you, how do i live)
aaja re aaja re yu hi tadpa na tu mujh ko
(oh come, oh come, like this, don't torture me)
jaan re jaan re in sanso mein bas ja tu
(o life!, o life!, get migled in these breaths)
chand re chand re aaja dil ki jameen pe tu
(o moon, o moon, come down to the ground of heart)
chahat hai agar aa ke mujh se mil ja tu
(if you have love for me, you come and meet me)
yaa phir aisa kar dharti se mila de mujh ko
(otherwise, do something to destroy me to make me one with earth)
tu hi re tu hi re tere binaa main kaise jiyu
aaja re aaja re yu hi tadpa na tu mujh ko
in sanso ka dekho tum pagalpan ki aaye nahi inhe chain
(see the madness of these breaths, that these are not able to get
relaxed)
mujh se ye boli main raaho mein teri apne bichha du ye nain
(these my breaths told me that, in your pathways, these will keep on
looking for your arrival)
in oonche pahaado se jaa de doonga main gar tum na aayee kahi
(from these tall mountains, i will jump and end my life, if, by any
chance, you could not arrive here)
tum udhar jaanam ummeed meri jo todo idhar ye jahaa chhodoo main
(no sooner do you fail to keep up my expectatons there, than i will
leave this world here)
maut aur jindagi tere haatho mein de diya re
(my life as well as my death, i have given to you for deciding what
happens to me)
aayi re aayi re le main aayi hu tere liye
(i have arrived, i have arrived, see, i have arrived for you)
toda re toda re har bandhan ko pyaar ke liye
(i have broken, i have broken, every other bond for your love)
jaan re jaan re aaj tujh mein sama jaaoo main
(o life!, o life!, today i want to become one with you)
dil re dil ve teri sanso mein bas jaaoo main
(o heart, o heart, i want to get mingled in your breaths)
chahat hai agar aa ke mujh se mil ja tu
yaa phir aisa kar dharti se mila de mujh ko
tu hi re tu hi re tere binaa main kaise jiyu
aaja re aaja re yu hi tadpa na tu mujh ko
sau baar bulaye main sau baar aaoo ek baar jo dil diya
(you call me hundred times, i will come hundred times, having given my
heart to you once)
ek aankh roye to dooji bolo soyegi kaise bhala
(you and i are one, hence if one eye is weeping with pain, tell me how
can the other eye go to sleep as if nothing has happened)
un pyaar ki raaho mein patthar hain kitne un sab ko hi paar kiya
(in those pathways of love, whatever so many hinderances are there, i
have overcome all those)
ik nadee hu main chaahat bhari aaj milne saagar ko aayi yaha
(i am a river, full of love today, i have arrived here to meet the sea)
sajna sajna aaj aansoo bhi meethe lage
(o beloved, o beloved, today even teardrops are appeaing sweet)
pal pal pal pal waqt to bita jaye re
(moment by moment, moment by moment, time is passing)
jara bol jara bol vaqt se ki vo tham jaye re
(tell it, tell it, tell the time to halt)
tu hi re tu hi re tere bina main kaise jiyu
aaja re aaja re yu hi tadpa na tu mujh ko
jaan re jaan re in sanso mein bas ja tu
chand re chand re aaja dil ki jameen pe tu
aayi re aayi re le main aayi hu tere liye
jaan re jaan re aaj tujh mein sama jaaoo main
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