Gujarati MD+Poet (was RE : MD-Poets)
neha...@hotmail.com
gurjari and put my state's MD-poet also in the list.
Avinash Vyas is the only MD-Poet that comes to my mind. Having a bad memory is
really bad at such times when you need to have pstats handy, but I had a tape of
Mukesh's gujarati songs handy which gave me a couple of songs that were written
and composed both, by Avinash Vyas. Avinash Vyas was one of the greatest MDs of
Gujarati music with Dilip Dholakia, Kersi Mistry, Gaurang Vyas(in later years),
V. Balsara and Ninu Mazumdar. Kalyanji Anandji did venture into Gujarati film
music but their repertoire consists of more Hindi songs. Salil Chowdhary has
also composed music for IIRC 4 gujarati movies. I do not have a list of the
movies.
The songs off the tape 'Taari Yaad Sataave' of Mukesh's gujarati songs has the
following songs composed and written by Avinash Vyas.
* pankhiDa ne aa pi.njaru junu junu laage
* chaalyaaj karun chhu
* aapaNe sahuey harata pharata
* havey prabhu avataar lyo to
* hey taney jhaanta jhoyi
* najar ne kahi do ke
I am sure there are lots more. The first and last song from the list above are
really nice poetically.
Speaking of Avinash Vyas, let me post one of my favorites from his gujarati
songs. Sung by Lata Mangeshkar and Pinakin Shah(only 2 lines), this song is
a traditional garbo(which cannot be attributed to any lyricist). The movie is
Mehndi Rang Laagyo
I am going to try to itrans it as much as i can and know how to.
The first couple of lines sung by Lata Mangeshkar and the lines sung by
Pinakin Shah are fast(it has a particular word, Snehalbhai? do you remember
in Garbas toward the end when they take a fast pace it generally has this kind
of kathiawaadi singing)
ka.nThe roop no haalarDo ne aankhei.n mad no bhaar
ghunghat maa.n joban ni jwaaDa jhanjhar ni jhaNkaar
ey laambo chhedo chhaayal no..ne gajro bhaaro bhaar
laTak maTakti chaal chaalti juvo gurjari naar
are bhai juvo gurjari naar...
mehndi te vaavi maandve ne eno rang gayo gujarat re
mehndi rang laagyo re...
(chorus sings the above 2 lines)
naano diyariyo~~~
laadko ne...
naano diyariyo laadko ne...
kaai.n laavyo mehndi na chhoD re...
mehndi rang laagyo re
(chorus repeats the above stanza)
mehndi te vaavi maandve ne eno rang gayo gujarat re..,.
mehndi rang laagyo re...
vaaTi ghuTi ne bharyo~~~
vaaDko ne...
vaaTi ghuti ne bharyo vaaDko ne
bhabhi rango tamara haath re..
mehndi rang laagyo re...
(chorus repeats the above stanza)
Pinakin Shah (fast paced):
ey laambo Daglo moochho vaankDi..shirey paaGhdi raati
ey laambo Daglo moochho vaankDi..ne shirey paaGhdi raati
arey bol bolto toDi toDi chhel chhabilo gujarati
arey tan chhoTu ne man moTu
arey tan chhoTu en man moTu..chhe khameervanti jaati
arey bhale laagto bhoDo hun..chhel chhabilo gujarati
bhai chhel chhabilo gujarati
Back to Lata in a slower than the above stanza pace)
mehndi te vaavi maandve ne eno rang gayo gujarat re...
mehndi rang laagyo re...
haath rangi ne veera~~~
shuei.n karu.n re...
haath rangi ne veera shuei.n karu.n re
eno jonaaro pardes re...
mehndi rang laagyo re...
(chorus repeats....:))
mehndi te vaavi maandve ne eno rang gayo gujarat re..
mehndi rang laagyo re...
Some gujarati meanings(if it helps):
vaavi : planted
maandve : place called 'maandvi' in Kutch
veera : brother
diyariyo : the hindi 'devar'
laadko : pet/favorite
Daglo : footstep
vaankdi : here it means cursive
vaaTi ghuTi : the hindi 'peesna'
vaaDko : bowl
tamara : your
raati : red
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Neha Desai
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Pranav Mehta
neha...@hotmail.com wrote in message <6smqdg$b...@pdrn.zippo.com>...
>Since there have been MD Poets mentioned in all languages, let me be a true
>gurjari and put my state's MD-poet also in the list.
>
>Avinash Vyas is the only MD-Poet that comes to my mind. Having a bad memory
is
>really bad at such times when you need to have pstats handy, but I had a
tape of
>Mukesh's gujarati songs handy which gave me a couple of songs that were
written
>and composed both, by Avinash Vyas. Avinash Vyas was one of the greatest
MDs of
>Gujarati music with Dilip Dholakia, Kersi Mistry, Gaurang Vyas(in later
years),
>V. Balsara and Ninu Mazumdar. Kalyanji Anandji did venture into Gujarati
film
>music but their repertoire consists of more Hindi songs. Salil Chowdhary
has
>also composed music for IIRC 4 gujarati movies. I do not have a list of the
>movies.
My two cents worth as far as the history of Gujrati MDs:
As you pointed out, Avinash Vyas is clearly the father of popular Gujrati
music as we know today. It is said that "he got Gujrat singing" and
deservedly so. His rich repertoir of filmi and non-filmi songs establishes
him as the true master of the craft. Many of his earlier songs are viewed
today as traditional folk songs - a true measure of how well they were
adopted by Gujratis. You can fill pages talking about his music, and that is
not my purpose here, so enough on Avinashbhai.
For the rest of them, I will just mention briefly my view on them:
Dilip Dholakia - A superb composer who probably was lost to Hindi film
industry too soon. He could have given us many more haunting melodies...a la
"rupale madhi chhe saari raat", "ek rajkan suraj thavaane shamane", "sharam
ne ramavuN gamatuN chhanuN", etc. etc.
His son Rajat Dholakia is a composer in his own right. He used to be the
sound mixing expert for RDB. He also gave music in Ketan Mehta's "Holi", but
I digress.
Ajit Merchant - Another legendary composer probably best known for his song
"taari aankh no afini" from film "Divadandi". I have heard a lot about him,
but personally don't have enough exposure to his music.
Ninu Majumdar - A doyen of Gujrati music after Avinashbhai. He gave us some
fabulous songs in the 60's and 70's, like, "vrindavan vaate sakhi jaataN dar
laage", "raksha karo jagadamba", "meN to rangyo hato ene dilada ni sang",
...
Kshemu Divetia - A well-known composer in Gujrat, but little known outside
of it. Many of his compositions had a semi-classical touch. He also has
composed some very good 'garbas'. His most famous composition has to
"radhanuN naam tame vaaNsali na sur maahiN" sung by Hansa Dave.
Purushottam Upadhyay - The king of Gujrati light music (or 'sugam sangeet'
as it's called). He is a composer par exellence as well as a superb singer,
although, as he admitted himself on a national program, he doesn't have a
very good voice. His mastery over melody is unmatched.
Rasiklal Bhojak - He was the influential MD who spent most of his career at
All India Radio, Ahmedabad as the music director. A sensitive composer, he
gave us some very good bhajans.
Dakshesh Dhruv - Not a very prolific composer, but he did give us some truly
lilting numbers that had a very "gujju" touch to them. One that I personally
like is "saiyar, tara kiya chhundane mohyo taaro chhel, kahene".
Rasbihari Desai - One of the founding fathers (along with Kshemu Divetia and
Avinash Vyas) of famous Ahmedabad quoir "Shruti", he is an accomplished
singer as well as a composer. A major organizing force behind many
"sammelans" and "shibirs", he has encouraged the trend of "kavya-gaan"
(giving the verse higher importance than traditionally given in light
music).
Gaurang Vyas - Avinash Vyas's son, he carried his father's tradition
further. He was the dominant MD of Gujrati films until the business nearly
died few year ago. His compositions have a very folksy flavor (like his
father), but also carry a distinct sophistication and restraint. He also is
a first rate music arranger.
Ashit Desai - The most talented and versatile of Gujrati composers. He
breathed fresh air in Gujrati music with his unique, experimental composing
style as well as his masterful 'gayaki'. Being a former tabla player, his
sense of rhythm menifests in all his compositions and enhances the beuty of
the melody. He is also a music arranger par excellence. In my opinion he
completes the triumvirate of geniuses in Gujrati music, along with Avinash
Vyas and Purushottam Upadhyay.
Paresh Bhatt - A very promising composer whose life was cut short by a
tragic accident at the age of 33. He attempted to set the tune of a song
according to meaning of literally each word! Sometimes it yielded stunning
results. At others, song seemed contrived. However, he is remembered for his
successes.
Ajit Sheth - Another recreational composer who has a very successful album
"maari aankhe kanku na suraj aathamyaa" to his credit. Some of the
compositions from that album are really melodious. My only complaint: Why
use singers like Hariharan and Bhupinder (whose pronunciations in this album
leave a lot to be desired) when you have other excellent singers in Gujrati?
Note: Hariharan has improved his diction considerably since then.
Apart from this, there have been lot of newcomers who have given refreshings
songs to Gujrati light music. Significant among them are: Shyamal-Saumil
Munshi, Soli Kapadia, Uday Majumdar, etc.
I apologize for any names that I may have forgot to include...
Comments are most welcome...
Regards,
Pranav
ArmeenR
Hi Pranav,
It is nice meeting through the newsgroup. I am thankful to both Neha and you
for first of all raising the question and then answering it so satisfactorily.
Being a gujrati (and a music lover inspite of that, just kidding!) I have been
quite familiar with these songs, but had never bothered to show as much
interest as I did for the main stream hindi-cinema-music.
Now a quick question from me. I remember of having heard Prushottam Upadhyay
claim in one of his interviews of being the first gujrati music director ever
to sign Lata Mangeshkar to sing for a Gujrati film. Is it true ?
Thanks.
Armeen Ramabhadran
Chetan Vinchhi
>
> Now a quick question from me. I remember of having heard Prushottam Upadhyay
> claim in one of his interviews of being the first gujrati music director ever
> to sign Lata Mangeshkar to sing for a Gujrati film. Is it true ?
Probably. I think Lata's first _recorded_ Gujarati song
was 'have sakhi nahii.n boluu.n...', music by PU. What a
wonderful song! I have in the past raved about this song
on RMIM.
However, there is an intriguing possibility that Lata
may have "sung" Avinash Vyas's 'maajham raate niitaratii
nabh nii chaa.ndanii' (once again, what a beaut!) as
early as the late 40s but recorded it many years later.
I vaguely remember reading somewhere that Aviansh Vyas
was the one to take Lata to Khemchand Prakash for an
audition (he was perhaps with Ranjit Studios at the time)
and she sang 'maajham raate...' Can anyone substantiate
the story? Lata does consider AV to be one of her early
mentors.
C
neha...@hotmail.com
>Probably. I think Lata's first _recorded_ Gujarati song
>was 'have sakhi nahii.n boluu.n...', music by PU. What a
>wonderful song! I have in the past raved about this song
>on RMIM.
>
>However, there is an intriguing possibility that Lata
>may have "sung" Avinash Vyas's 'maajham raate niitaratii
>nabh nii chaa.ndanii' (once again, what a beaut!) as
>early as the late 40s but recorded it many years later.
>I vaguely remember reading somewhere that Aviansh Vyas
>was the one to take Lata to Khemchand Prakash for an
>audition (he was perhaps with Ranjit Studios at the time)
>and she sang 'maajham raate...' Can anyone substantiate
>the story? Lata does consider AV to be one of her early
>mentors.
I think 'maajham raate' is also by Purshottam Upadhyay.
(at least according the EPs I recorded this song from)
Lata's Avinash Vyas songs I am aware of are:
- mehndi te vavi maandve..(MEHNDI RANG LAAGYO)
- pandaDu leelu ne rang raato (MEHNDI RANG LAAGYO)
- ghunghte Dhaankyu ek koDyu (MEHNDI RANG LAAGYO)
- aajno chaandaliyo(LOHI NI SAGAAI)
Lata's Kalyanji Anandji song:
- taney saachave paarvati (AKHAND SOWBHAGYAWATI)
Lata's Dilip Dholakia song:
- roople maDhi chhe saari raat
- na na nahi aavu..meDe nahi aavu
- ek rajkan sooraj thavane shamaNe
Lata's Purushottam Upadhyay songs(the ones you mention)
- havey sakhi nahi bolu
- maajham raate
Surprisingly the one Salil soundtrack I could get some songs
of does not have a Lata song:((
Can people please add to the list of Lata's gujarati songs? I am
sure this list is incomplete.
--
Neha Desai
sramab...@pcc.lucent.com
> - pandaDu leelu ne rang raato (MEHNDI RANG LAAGYO)
Hi Neha-
Can you please tell me who the MALE singer is in this song?
> Neha Desai
>
Thanks,
Sanjeev
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Anant Rege
neha...@hotmail.com wrote in message <6ubaq9$i...@pdrn.zippo.com>...
>In article <3606DC...@lucent.com>, Chetan says...
<snip>
>
>Lata's Avinash Vyas songs I am aware of are:
>- mehndi te vavi maandve..(MEHNDI RANG LAAGYO)
>- pandaDu leelu ne rang raato (MEHNDI RANG LAAGYO)
>- ghunghte Dhaankyu ek koDyu (MEHNDI RANG LAAGYO)
>- aajno chaandaliyo(LOHI NI SAGAAI)
>
>Lata's Kalyanji Anandji song:
>- taney saachave paarvati (AKHAND SOWBHAGYAWATI)
>
>Lata's Dilip Dholakia song:
>- roople maDhi chhe saari raat
>- na na nahi aavu..meDe nahi aavu
>- ek rajkan sooraj thavane shamaNe
>
>Lata's Purushottam Upadhyay songs(the ones you mention)
>- havey sakhi nahi bolu
>- maajham raate
>
>Surprisingly the one Salil soundtrack I could get some songs
>of does not have a Lata song:((
>
>Can people please add to the list of Lata's gujarati songs? I am
>sure this list is incomplete.
>
I have a nice Lata song which I assume is Gujarati. I say I assume because
it sounds very much Marathi but it is not Marathi. And I can not make out
many words. It goes something like this.
O chanda mama, aare aava (come here?) , paare aava, Nadiya kinare aava
Munna ki Katariya m(n)e , Doodh bhaat le le aava, ???????????????????
Does anybody know about this song?
Cheers
Anant
>--
>Neha Desai
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Sorry to follow
After I sent my first post enquiring about above so called Gujarati song, I
received an email from Sundaram suggesting the song may be Bhojpuri. At least
that is what he felt after seeing some words in the song. I had not heard the
song in a long time and only remembered few words from the Mukhada, I decided
to dig it out from my untidy collection and post as many words as I could
figure out. After listening it fresh, it does sound Bhojpuri. One reason why I
somehow remember it as a Gujrati song is may be the song preceding it on my
cassette is 'Mehendi rang lagyo re'. So here is the full song.
Ai chanda mama, aare aawa paare aawa
Nadiya kinare aawa,
Sona ki katariya me
Doodh Bhaat le le aawa
Babua ka mahua me ???
Aawo ?????? hamari munder
Kabase pukare le bhail badi der
Bhail badi der ho babuka ???
Manawa hamar ab lage kahina
Rahi le ??? ghadi babuke bina
Ek ghadi hamar lage sau jug
Cheers
Anant
Pranav Mehta
ArmeenR wrote in message <19980921183230...@ng108.aol.com>...
>
>Hi Pranav,
>
>It is nice meeting through the newsgroup. I am thankful to both Neha and
you
>for first of all raising the question and then answering it so
satisfactorily.
>Being a gujrati (and a music lover inspite of that, just kidding!) I have
been
>quite familiar with these songs, but had never bothered to show as much
>interest as I did for the main stream hindi-cinema-music.
Upadhyay
>claim in one of his interviews of being the first gujrati music director
ever
>to sign Lata Mangeshkar to sing for a Gujrati film. Is it true ?
>
>Armeen Ramabhadran
Armeen,
Thanks for the kind words.
As far as your question, yes, PU indeed gets the credit for signing up
Latabai for "Have sakhi nahiN boluN nahiN boluN...", a pure gem!
Regards,
Pranav
Pranav Mehta
sramab...@pcc.lucent.com wrote in message
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>
>
>
>> - pandaDu leelu ne rang raato (MEHNDI RANG LAAGYO)
>
>
>Can you please tell me who the MALE singer is in this song?
>
>
>
>> Neha Desai
>>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sanjeev
>
Sanjeev,
If my memory serves me right, the male singer is Mahendra Kapoor.
Rgds,
Pranav
Ashok
>
>
>I have a nice Lata song which I assume is Gujarati. I say I assume because
>it sounds very much Marathi but it is not Marathi. And I can not make out
>many words. It goes something like this.
>
>O chanda mama, aare aava (come here?) , paare aava, Nadiya kinare aava
>Munna ki Katariya m(n)e , Doodh bhaat le le aava, ???????????????????
>
>Does anybody know about this song?
>
>Cheers
>
>Anant
Well, so much for the mutual understanding and intelligibility that prevails
between neighbouring languages!
Don't mind the crack; I am thankful to you for reminding of this marvellous
song. It must have been decades since I have heard it. (You actually have
a copy of it?!)
It is from a mid-60s Bhojpuri film called "Bhauji". Music director is, like
for most Bhojpuri films of the era, Chitragupta. Lyricist was Majrooh. He
and Shailendra seem to have been prolific in lyrics for Bhojpuri films.
Incredible but true: it is not the best song of the film. The Lata solo is
just a tad too sweet. This Talat-Lata duet has a very nice and interesting
melody:
phoola bana me.n phoola haa, gulaab sab se aalaa (?)
I hope your tape has that one, too. Would love to get complete lyrics.
Ashok