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The two best moments from Lata Mangeshkar's 80th birthday coverage...

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Abhay Phadnis

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Sep 29, 2009, 12:29:18 AM9/29/09
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...IMO, of course!

In this clip on the TOI website:

http://tinyurl.com/yb5wj7l

- At 0:26, Lata says (with a completely deadpan expression on her
face): "mai.n ne sab se zyaadaa gaane gaaye hai.n bhuuto.n ke" ("I
have the sung the most for ghosts!") - it takes the interviewer a few
moments to catch on to the joke!

- A touching comment from Asha Bhosle (76 years old herself!) at 1:27:
"...[bahut zyaadaa] umr mere paas bhii nahii.n hai, lekin jitanii mere
paas bhagawaan ne umr dii hai, vo bhagawaan us ko de de.n" ("I don't
have too many years left myself, but whatever years I have remaining,
may god give them to her").

Warm regards,
Abhay

pdg

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Sep 29, 2009, 1:27:38 PM9/29/09
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On Sep 28, 11:29 pm, Abhay Phadnis <aphad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...IMO, of course!
>
> In this clip on the TOI website:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yb5wj7l
>
> - At 0:26, Lata says (with a completely deadpan expression on her
> face): "mai.n ne sab se zyaadaa gaane gaaye hai.n bhuuto.n ke" ("I
> have the sung the most for ghosts!") - it takes the interviewer a few
> moments to catch on to the joke!

That's interesting. There used to an LP album titled "Haunting
Melodies" by Lata Mangeshkar. (Track list given below from Internet
site). What are some of her other 'ghost' songs (assuming she didn't
intend a pun in the word 'ghost')


Haunting Melodies - Lata Mangeshkar

Aayega Aanewala
Film: Mahal (1949)

Aaja Re Pardesi
Film: Madhumati (1958)

Kahin Deep Jale Kahin Dil
Film: Bees Saal Baad (1962)

Jhoom Jhoom Dhalti Raat
Film: Kohraa (1964)

Naina Barse Rimjhim Rimjhim
Film: Woh Kaun Thi ? (1964)

Gumnaam Hai Koi Badnaam Hai Koi
Film: Gumnaam (1965)

Lag Ja Gale Se Phir
Film: Woh Kaun Thi ? (1964)

Aaja Re Pyar Pukare
Film: Dil Ne Phir Yaad Kiya (1966)

Jab Yaad Kisiki Aati Hai
Film: Jab Yaad Kisiki Aati Hai (1967)

Rula Ke Gaya Sapna Mera
Film: Jewel Thief (1967)

Akele Hain Chale Aao
Film: Raaz (1967)

Rahen Na Rahen
Film: Mamta (1966)

Mera Saaya Saath Chalega
Film: Mera Saaya (1966)

UVR

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Sep 29, 2009, 4:32:35 PM9/29/09
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The post-Mumtaz-death-"jo waada kiya woh" (from Taj Mahal) is also a
"ghost" song. Bina Rai's bedecked beauty descends from the moon
(=heavens) through the chimerical clouds and sings with a pining
Pradeep Kumar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtKE8v8mFl0

-UVR.

pdg

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Sep 29, 2009, 11:05:55 PM9/29/09
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Hmm. I used to consider this a dream sequence song. Then again,
there's a thin line between dream and ghost. I guess if the character
in the dream is dead, that makes it a ghost song.

-pdg/

Vishwanath

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Sep 30, 2009, 9:03:21 AM9/30/09
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On Sep 29, 1:27 pm, pdg <prithvi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 11:29 pm, Abhay Phadnis <aphad...@gmail.com> wrote:

Surely, the songs "Rula Ke Gaya Sapna Mera" and " Rahen Na Rahen
Hum" are neither dream sequences or Bhoot songs.

Asif

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Sep 30, 2009, 10:06:38 AM9/30/09
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On Sep 29, 1:27 pm, pdg <prithvi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

A few more:

1. aa mere saathii aa (Chhalia, 1973) - Not sure if this song, filmed
on Nanda, is a ghost song but it sounds very much like one.
2. aa jaan-e-jaa.N mai.n kha.Dii huu.N yahaa.N (Goonj, 1974)
3. mai.n ek sadii se baiThii huu.N (Lekin, 1991)
4. yaaraa siilii siilii (Lekin, 1991)
5. mere nainaa saawan bhaado.n (Mehbooba, 1976)
6. ma.in huu.N diyaa (Jal Mahal, 1979)
7. There was a song filmed on Tanuja from a film that also starred
Feroz Khan. Forgetting the song and the film.
8. Was 'tumase bichha.Dake chain kahaa.N ham paaye.nge' (Maharaja,
1970) filmed on Nutan a ghost song? Never saw the film so I do not
know, but I love this MM composition a lot.

In Uran Khatola, (1953) heroine Nimmi dies early. Does any song
filmed on her later in the film passes as ghost song? I guess a ghost
song by definition is a theme song centrally related to the film's
main plot.

Asif

Shalini Razdan

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Sep 30, 2009, 10:31:09 AM9/30/09
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You're right, they aren't. Neither are "Aaja re pyaar pukare", "Mera
saaya saath hogaa" or even "aaja re pardesi."

One song that does fit the ghostly bill is "Saathi re tujh bin jiya
udas re" from Poonam Ki Raat.


Shalini

Asif

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Sep 30, 2009, 10:38:09 AM9/30/09
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On Sep 30, 10:31 am, Shalini Razdan <shaliniraz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 30, 9:03 am, Vishwanath <vishi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 29, 1:27 pm, pdg <prithvi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 28, 11:29 pm, Abhay Phadnis <aphad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Surely, the songs "Rula Ke Gaya Sapna Mera" and " Rahen Na Rahen
> > Hum"   are neither dream sequences or Bhoot songs.
>
> You're right, they aren't.  Neither are "Aaja re pyaar pukare", "Mera
> saaya saath hogaa" or even "aaja re pardesi."
>

'tuu jahaa.N jahaa.N chalegaa' (Mera Saaya, 1966) and 'aajaa re
paradesii' (Madhumati, 1958) are both ghost songs, because they appear
again in the film when the respective ghosts of the heroines sing them
- and by the definition too they are indeed ghost songs. Note the
relevant words 'mai.n nadiyaa phir bhii mai.n pyaasii, bhed ye gaharaa
baat zaraa sii' and other haunting antaraas of this song. Ditto for
the Mera Saaya song.

Shalini Razdan

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Sep 30, 2009, 10:40:02 AM9/30/09
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On Sep 30, 10:06 am, Asif <alvi.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A few more:
>
> 1.  aa mere saathii aa (Chhalia, 1973) - Not sure if this song, filmed
> on Nanda, is a ghost song but it sounds very much like one.

Definitely not a ghost song. Before seeing the movie, I thought "aa
mere saathi aa" was one of those mollifying-the-rootha-sajjan songs a
la "na ja mere humdum", but the song picturization quickly set me
straight. :-)

> 2.  aa jaan-e-jaa.N mai.n kha.Dii huu.N yahaa.N (Goonj, 1974)
> 3.  mai.n ek sadii se baiThii huu.N (Lekin, 1991)
> 4.  yaaraa siilii siilii (Lekin, 1991)
> 5.  mere nainaa saawan bhaado.n (Mehbooba, 1976)
> 6.  ma.in huu.N diyaa (Jal Mahal, 1979)

Sajan kahan jaaongee main from Jaise Ko Taise in another entry from
the RDB stables.

> In Uran Khatola, (1953) heroine Nimmi dies early.  Does any song
> filmed on her later in the film passes as ghost song?  I guess a ghost
> song by definition is a theme song centrally related to the film's
> main plot.
>

Lata sings a snippet of "o door ke musafir" for the ghostly Nimmi at
the end of the movie.

Shalini

> Asif- Hide quoted text -
>
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Shalini Razdan

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Sep 30, 2009, 10:47:03 AM9/30/09
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It's been a while since I've seen either movie, but I don't think the
above is true. AFAIR, the only times "mera saaya saath hoga" plays in
the movie is when Sunil Dutt remembers/flashesback to Sadhana singing
it. I'm a little less sure about "aaja re pardesi" and the the
ghostly Vayjantimala might sing a few lines, but I do know that the
lines you've cited above are sung by the flesh-n-blood Vaiju at the
beginning of the movie.


Shalini

AR

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Sep 30, 2009, 11:07:16 AM9/30/09
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On Sep 30, 10:31 am, Shalini Razdan <shaliniraz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 30, 9:03 am, Vishwanath <vishi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 29, 1:27 pm, pdg <prithvi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 28, 11:29 pm, Abhay Phadnis <aphad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Surely, the songs "Rula Ke Gaya Sapna Mera" and " Rahen Na Rahen
> > Hum"   are neither dream sequences or Bhoot songs.
>
> You're right, they aren't.  Neither are "Aaja re pyaar pukare", "Mera
> saaya saath hogaa" or even "aaja re pardesi."
>

Actually, aaja re pardesi is a ghost song - isn't Vyiayanthimala
reborn in the film? It's been a decade since I've seen that film so I
could be wrong.

kcp

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Sep 30, 2009, 4:25:05 PM9/30/09
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Not so often discussed : Na Ro Aye Mere Dil Yahaan - from the film
Zameen Aasmaan

Jamal

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Oct 1, 2009, 5:21:03 AM10/1/09
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one that often brings tears to my eyes -

Mere Nanhe, Mere Pyare Tujhe Apne
Aakhri Khat (1966)

Not sure I would class the Mahal songs as bhoot ones either as
although we assume Madhubala is a ghost throughout the film the truth
is revealed at the end.

Sukesh

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Oct 1, 2009, 8:36:28 AM10/1/09
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Are there any 'male bhoot' songs? I do not seem to recollect any.

Regards
Sukesh

Asif

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Oct 1, 2009, 9:01:00 AM10/1/09
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'tujhako pukaare meraa pyaar' (Neelkamal, 1968). The line 'itane
*yugo.n* tak itane dukho.n ko koii sah na sakegaa', not to forget that
the legendary Sahir wrote it, aptly portrays a wandering spirit, just
like Gulzar did it superbly years later with 'mai.n ek *sadii* se
baiThii huu.N is raah se koii guzaraa nahii.n' (Lekin, 1991).

About Jamal's query about the Mahal song 'aayegaa aayegaa', it is a
ghost song too no matter what truth was revealed in the end - it was a
theme song supposedly sung by a ghost. By the way, the truth was
revealed for a few other songs too, e.g. 'gumanaam hai koii' (Gumnaam,
1965) and 'aa jaan-e-jaa.N' (Goonj, 1974), but they are ghost songs
nevertheless.

I never saw Noor Mahal (1967), but does Shyama plays a ghost in it?
She sings 'mere mahabuub na jaa' in it to a fearful Jagdeep who just
keeps widening his eyes wider and wider, probably thinking that this
was THE way to act.

Sukesh

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Oct 1, 2009, 12:33:28 PM10/1/09
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HFGK

Noor Mahal (1965)
Chitra, Jagdeep, Madhumati, Tiwari, Lalita Desai

There is no mention of Shyama.

Regards
Sukesh

Asif

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Oct 1, 2009, 1:52:02 PM10/1/09
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My bad. All these years I hang on to my previous perception of her
being Shyama until I just watched the song (years later) on youtube.
She is someone else, probably not Madhumati either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odP1Pnsog_M


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