I request the RMIMers to put their suggestions of films which deserved
award against each year actual winner.
1971 Mera Naam Joker Shanker-Jaikishen
1970 Pehchan Shanker-Jaikishen
1969 Jeene Ki Raah Laxmikant-Pyarelal
1968 Brahmachari Shanker-Jaikishen
1967 Milan Laxmikant-Pyarelal
1966 Suraj Shanker-Jaikishen
1965 Khandaan Ravi
1964 Dosti Laxmikant-Pyarelal
1963 Taj Mahal Roshan
1962 Professor Shanker-Jaikishen
1961 Gharana Ravi
1960 Dil Apna Aur Preet Parai Shanker-Jaikishen
1959 Anari Shanker-Jaikishen
1958 Madhumati Salil Chaudhury
1957 Naya Daur O.P. Nayyar
1956 Chori Chori Shanker-Jaikishen
1955 Nagin Hemant Kumar
1954 Taxi Driver S.D. Burman
1953 Baiju Bawra Naushad
and you stopped at 1971??.. Move on to 1972, the landmark year for
Filmfare awards..?
http://passionforcinema.com/filmfare-awards-jai-bolo-beimaan-ki/
Jai bolo beimaan ki :)
May be the reason is that film music, with a few exceptions, fell
apart sometimes towards the end of sixties or early seventies. The
music became mostly forgetable noise and not much else, certainly no
melody.
Narsingh
1964-1970 is all bakwaaz. LP-SJ divided it amongst them, SJ reacting
to LP buying it for Dosti. Ravi did a good job, but dont know if it
was award material.
Pray, may you kindly throw some light as to what exactly constitutes
'melody' and why films towards the end of the the sixties or early
seventies are certainly no melody? You may also cite the exceptions
please.
Rgd
Ani
"Jay" is the real authority on technical definition of melody and
melodious music. I can only offer examples. Get hold of any of the
following CDs:
Badal (1951, music: Shankar Jaikishan), Barsaat (1949, S-J), Amar
(1954, Naushad), Patita (1953, S-J), Anarkali (1953, C Ramchandra),
Anari (1959, S-J), Nagin (1954, Hemant Kumar).
Listen to the songs from the above movies and then get hold of audio
tapes (don't waste your money buying CDs) of Desh Prem (Laxmikant
Pyarelal) or Aamne Samne (RD Burman) and listen to these songs. You
will note the difference in the quality of music.
The exceptions. Once in a while, I do run into some melodious songs
from the post 1970 era. Almost all the songs from Jurmana (RD Burman)
are nice, The one songs that has really impressed me is "Judai judai"
from Judaai (1977, Nadeem Shravan). I am sure there are several other
such exceptions but I don't have the patience to listen to 100 songs
to find one good one.
Narsingh
> I can only offer examples. Get hold of any of the
> following CDs:
> Badal (1951, music: Shankar Jaikishan), Barsaat (1949, S-J), Amar
> (1954, Naushad), Patita (1953, S-J), Anarkali (1953, C Ramchandra),
> Anari (1959, S-J), Nagin (1954, Hemant Kumar).
> Narsingh
Excellent selection. Depending on one's choice, one can add
other scores to this list. For instance, I would add
"Rajhath", "Halaku" and "Chori Chori" (1956-SJ). Also,
"Uran Khatola" and "Sohini Mahiwal" (both Naushad).
"Yasmeen" too (CR).
Afzal
Great selection Narsingh and Afzal . However, I see you cannot see
beyond the early fifties which many consider musically immature . Why
don't we start with Alam Ara (surely VHS should be available with some
RMIMier) , appreciate De de khuda ke naam by keep listening to the
song over a week at a stretch, gradually move on to the likes of
Vidyapati , Dhoop Chaaon and end at Anokha Milan perhaps?
Ani
Shri Aniruddha,
I think someone asked Shri Narsingh what according to him was
Melody. He gave a simple answer, to which I added a few more
films/albums. Nothing more.
It may be a cliche, but the fact remains that Melody lies in
the ear/s of the listener.
Most of us old-timers don't really mind if people discuss new and
newer films and their music here. I am sure I don't. In fact,
I recall mentioning a couple of songs from very recent films like
"Tashan" and "Jaane Tu Ya Jaane Na" recently.
And it is also a fact that a few RMIMers in fact like the thirties'
and forties' music a lot more than the fifties' music. Like Shri
Naniwadekar for instance.
Afzal
I think, in the discussion of melody, the question in the initial post
has got missed out a bit - which films were deserving winners in the
years they released. Unfortunately, I am not too sure of the years
films released in but still some which I feel could have been at least
close competition include
1953 - Anarkali
1954 - Amar
1955 - Uran Khatola
1959 - Sujata
1960 - Mughal-e-Azam (in my opinion, certainly was better than Dil
Apna aur preet paraee)
1961 - Jis desh me ganga behti hai
1963 - Bandini (I must admit, Taj Mahal is extremely good and probably
does score over it but just for the haunting "mere saajan hai us
paar", it would get quite close. And the other songs too are very
good. It must have been really close)
1964 - Sangam
1966 - Guide (streets better than Suraj)
As I said there could be some errors in some of the years. It would be
interesting if someone could get the list of nominees for each of the
years and see if some of these lost out at the last phase. Or did
people at the time think completely differently from me today
Sancho
Dear Afzal-saab,
I recall that I had sincerely admired your open-minded approach to the
songs 'dance maare re' & 'pappu can't dance'. :)
Were you not supposed to mail me some queries on Bengali music? I look
forward to your mail (and try my best to answer them).
Regards,
Archisman.
Filmfare Best Music Awards And Nominees
In 1954 the award went to Naushad for Baiju B. There were no
nominees, although Do Bhiga Zameen (Salil), Aar Paar (OPN) and Patita
(SJ) could be considered instead of Baiju Bawra.
In '55 to SDB for Taxi Driver. Jagriti (HemantK) and Boot Polish (SJ)
in place of Taxi Driver could have been considered instead of Taxi
Driver.
In '56 the award went to Nagin (Hemant K) and the other nominees were
Udan Khatola (Naushad) and Azaad(CR). Other notable movies not
considered are Munimji (SDB), Shree 420 (SJ), House # 44 (SDB), Mr &
Mrs 55 (OPN).
In '57 the award went to Chori Chori (SJ) and the nominee was (only
one) C.I.D (OPN). Other notable movies were Seema (SJ), Devdas (SDB),
Jagte Raho (Salil), Jhanak Jhanak Payal Baje (Vasant Desai) and Basant
Bahar (SJ).
In '58 the award went to Naya Daur (OPN) and the nominee was Aasha
(CR). Other movies were Mother India (Naushad), Paying Guest (SDB),
Dekh Kabira Roya (MM), Nau Do Gyarah (SDB), and Pyaasa (SDB).
In '59, the award went to (thank GOD!) Madhumati, and the nominees
were Phagun (OPN), & Yahudi (SJ). Other movies were Kala Pani (SDB),
Phir Subah Hogi (Khaiyyam), Lajwanti (SDB), Adalat (MM), Solva Saal
(SDB) and Howrah Bridge (OPN).
In '60 the award went to Anari (SJ), and the nominees were Sujata
(SDB) and Chhoti Bahen (SJ). Other movies were Navrang (CR).
In '61 the award went to (Oh my GOD!) Dil Apna Aur Preet Parayi (SJ),
and the nominees were Mughal-E-Azam (Naushad) and Chaudvin Ka Chand
(Ravi). Other movies were Parakh (Salil C), Kala Bazar (SDB), Kohinoor
(Naushad), Bambai Ka Babu (SDB) Barsaat Ki Raat (Roshan) and Saraswati
Chandra (KA).
In '62, the award went to Gharana (Ravi) and the nominees were Ganga
Jamuna (Naushad) and Jis Desh Main Ganga Behti Hai (SJ). Notable
movies were Hum Dono (Jaidev), Shola aur Shabnam (Khayyam), Jab Pyaar
Kisise Hota Hai (SJ--I don't think much of it, but the songs were
popular), Sanjog(MM).
In '63 the award went to Professor (SJ). The nominees were Bees Saal
Baad (Hemant K) and Anpadh (MM). Other notables were Sahib Biwi aur
Ghulam (Hemant K), Ek Musafir Ek Hasina (OPN), Baat Ek Raat Ki (SDB).
In '64 the award went to (thank God!) Taj Mahal(Roshan). The nominees
were Mere Mehboob (Naushad--tough luck, but Taj Mahal is better), and
Dil Ek Mandir (SJ). Notable movies were Bandini (SDB), Mujhe Jeene Do
(Jaidev), Gumrah (Ravi), Tere Ghar ke Samne (SDB), Meri Surat Teri
Aankhen (SDB), Dil Hi to Hai (Roshan), Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon (OPN).
In '65 the award went to Dosti (LP) (YUCK!). The nominees were Woh
Kaun Thi (MM), and Sangam (SJ). Other notables were Leader (Naushad),
Kohraa (HemantK), Kashmir Ki Kali (OPN), Chitralekha (Roshan), Door
Gagan Ki Chaon Main (KK).
In '66 the award went to Khandaan (Ravi). The nominees were Himalay
Ki God Main (KA), Arzoo (SJ). Notable movies are Waqt (Ravi), Mere
Sanam (OPN) and Teen Deviyan (SDB).
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'67 occurred the GHOR PAAP. The award went to *SOB*, Suraj (SJ). The
nominees were Guide (SDB) and Do Badan (Ravi). Now consider the movies
Suraj beat out, and judge for yourself, whether popularity or
manipulation got it the award. We start with Amrapali (SJ), Teesri
Kasam (SJ-yes even this is better), Anupama (HemantK--too good), Mamta
(Roshan-Brilliant), Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi (OPN) and Mera Saya (MM).
IMHO, the award should have gone to Guide, but if not than my next
choice would have been the highly creative, innovative music of Teesri
Manzil (RDB). I rest my case. You decide if popularity alone wins the
award.
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In '68 the award went to Milan (LP--The songs were popular, although
they are okayish). The nominees were Upkar (KA), Humraaz (Ravi).
Other movies were Jewel Thief (SDB--far, far better), Baharon Ke Sapne
(RDB).
In '69, the award went to Brahmachari (SJ), and the nominees were
Ankhen (Ravi) and Diwana (SJ). Notable movies were Raat Aur Din (SJ),
Pyar Ka Mausam (RDB).
In '70, the award went to Jeene Ki Raah (LP), and the nominees were
Aradhana (SDB) (need I say further on the lunacy levels of the
committee?), and Chanda aur Bijli (SJ). Notables include, Ek Phool Do
Mali (Ravi).
In '71 the award went to Pehchan (SJ), and the nominees were Talash
(SDB), and Do Raaste (LP). Notables include Prem Pujari (SDB), Dastak
(MM) and Heer Ranjha (MM).
In '72 the award went to Mera Naam Joker (SJ), and the nominees were
Caravan (RDB) and Andaz (SJ). IMHO, I love Caravan, but thanks, only
to Mukesh's singing, I personally, think MNJ as not a bad choice.
However, it becomes a bad choice, when one considers, that some of the
other movies were Anand (Salil), Guddi (Vasant Desai), Tere Mere Sapne
(SDB), and my favourites Sharmilee (SDB) and Kati Patang (RDB).
In '73 the award went to Be-Iman (SJ--possibly a movie made on the way
they got some of their awards), and the nominees were Pakeezaah (GM
only--Naushad was not nominated as a co-MD), and Shor (LP). The
notables are Anubhav (Kanu Roy), Bawarchi (MM), Safar(KA), Lal Patthar
(SJ), and brace yourself-- Hare Rama Hare Krishna (RDB), Amar Prem
(RDB), Jawani Diwani (RDB), and Mere Jeevan Saathi (RDB).
In '74 the award went to (naturally) Abhimaan (SDB), and the nominees
were Zanjeer (KA), Bobby (LP), Daag (LP), and Yaadon Ki Baarat (RDB).
Notables are Aa Gale Lag Ja (RDB), Namak Haram (RDB), Hanste Zakham
(MM).
In '75 the award went to Kora Kagaz (KA) and the nominees were Roti
Kapda aur Makaan (LP), Aap Ki Kasam (RDB), Premnagar (SDB), Resham Ki
Dori (SJ). Notables are Ajnabee (RDB).
In '76 the award went to Julie (RR), and the nominees were Dulhan
(LP), Khel Khel Main (RDB), Sholay (RDB), Sanyasi (SJ--although, by
now I think it should be only a S, right?). Notables are Amanush (S.
Mitra), Aandhi (RDB), Khushboo (RDB), Mili (SDB), Chupke Chupke(SDB).
As an aside RDB was one of the nominees for Best Male Playback for
Mehbooba, Mehbooba for Sholay. The award went to KK for Dil Aisa
Kisine Mera Toda (Amanush).
In '77 the award went to Kabhi Kabhi (Khaiyyam) and the nominees were
Bairaag (KA), Mausam (MM), Mehbooba (RDB), and Chitchor (Ravindra
Jain). Don't remember any musically good movies right now, but if
junta can come up with names, I could check.
In '78 the award went to Amar Akbar Anthony (LP), and the nominees
were Alaap (Jaidev), Hum Kisise Kum Nahin (RDB), Kinara (RDB), and
Swami (RR). Notables are Gharonda (Jaidev), Doosra Aadmi (RR--this
lost to Swami as a nominee?), Anurodh (LP)
In '79 the award went to Satyam Shivam Sundaram (LP), and the nominees
were Don (KA), Shalimar (RDB), Des Pardes (RR), Ankhiyon ke Jharokon
se (Ravindra Jain). Notables are Muqaddar Ka Sikandar (KA), Trishul
(Khaiyyam), Kasme Vaade (RDB), Ghar (RDB).
In '80 the award went to Sargam (LP), and the nominees were Noorie
(Khaiyyam), Jaani Dushman (LP), Kala Patthar (RR), and Mr. Natwarlal
(RR). Notables are Gol Maal (RDB), Meera (Pt. Ravi Shankar).
It was Ketan in 1997 and there was also a big discussion 2001.