what is "saaneha"

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Dec 14, 2001, 9:26:01 AM12/14/01

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in hariharan song "ajeeb saaneha mujh par gujar gaya yaaro.n".

what is saaneha.

-rawat

Abhay Phadnis

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Dec 14, 2001, 11:38:42 AM12/14/01

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"saanihaa" means an unfortunate event, a tragedy, or bad news.

E.g., the maktaa of Jigar's "hamako miTaa sake yah zamaane me.n dam nahii.n"
goes:

marg-e-'Jigar' pe kyuu.N terii aa.Nkhe.n hai.n ashkarez
ek saanihaa sahii magar itanaa aham nahii.n!

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Abhay

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UVR

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Dec 14, 2001, 12:35:45 PM12/14/01

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> in hariharan song "ajeeb saaneha mujh par gujar gaya yaaro.n".
>
> what is saaneha.

Incident, event. ghaTanaa.

BTW, it ought to be "*guzar* gayaa *yaaro*".

I strongly recommend listening more often to the Rafi "version"
of this song.

-UVR.

Aslam Sahbaa

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Dec 14, 2001, 4:07:33 PM12/14/01

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> what is saaneha.
>
> -rawat
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Rawat_jii,
aadaab,

It means "incident or accident"

Aslam "Sai'hbaa"

UVR

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Dec 15, 2001, 1:33:59 PM12/15/01

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"Abhay Phadnis" <apha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "saanihaa" means an unfortunate event, a tragedy, or bad news.

I'm open to correction here, but I really don't think that a
saanihah is necessarily unfortunate or bad. It's just an event
(incident) or an 'accident' (i.e., "unexpected" incident, but
not necessarily "bad").

Even in the sh'er you quote, I think the 'ashk rezi' is alluded
to more as an outcome of the 'marg' (death)-e-Jigar, not due to
the 'saanihah'-ness of it.

> E.g., the maktaa of Jigar's "hamako miTaa sake yah zamaane me.n dam nahii.n"
> goes:
>
> marg-e-'Jigar' pe kyuu.N terii aa.Nkhe.n hai.n ashkarez
> ek saanihaa sahii magar itanaa aham nahii.n!

-UVR.

Abhay Phadnis

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Dec 19, 2001, 10:41:41 PM12/19/01

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I looked up my Urdu-Hindi dictionary, and found "saanihaa" defined as
"durghaTanaa, burii khabar" (and several more meanings in the same vein). It
is not defined as just any incident.

Re. the sh'er, of course the "ashkarezii" is an outcome of the death, but
the "saanihaa" referred to IS the death itself! My reading of it is: "Why
cry if Jigar be dead? Unfortunate, true - but hardly worth your tears!"

Warm regards,
Abhay

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Abhay Phadnis

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Dec 19, 2001, 10:41:41 PM12/19/01

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I looked up my Urdu-Hindi dictionary, and found "saanihaa" defined as
"durghaTanaa, burii khabar" (and several more meanings in the same vein). It
is not defined as just any incident.

Re. the sh'er, of course the "ashkarezii" is an outcome of the death, but
the "saanihaa" referred to IS the death itself! My reading of it is: "Why
cry if Jigar be dead? Unfortunate, true - but hardly worth your tears!"

Warm regards,
Abhay

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Dec 20, 2001, 10:09:57 AM12/20/01

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I thought aham is a hindi/ sanskrit word meaning "Self" as in aha.mkaar.

was it aham or alam (sadness)
"ek saanihaa sahii magar itanaa [alam] nahii.n!"

"Why cry if Jigar be dead? Unfortunate, true - but you need not be so
sad"

another meaning of alam is propabably "flag", as in alam-bardaar.

-Rawat

SKalra902

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Dec 20, 2001, 11:27:17 AM12/20/01

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In the overall context of the 'sher', it is the Urdu word 'aham', meaning
'important' which makes perfect sense, IMO, like in "yeh itna aham maslaa
nahiin hai...".

Happy listenings.

Satish Kalra

Vijay Kumar

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Dec 20, 2001, 3:05:46 PM12/20/01

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> I thought aham is a hindi/ sanskrit word meaning "Self" as in aha.mkaar.
>

eham here is urdu, meaning important as in 'aaj kii eham KhabreN'.

Vijay Kumar