RARELY USED musical instument in Hindi movie songs
raaz
is extensively used in classical music concerts, known as
layavinyaasam, where raaga is played on different instruments
like, morsing, veena, violin, mrudangam, kanjira and ghaTam
one after the other and finally all will be played synchronously.
The ghatam is an earthen pot, made specially, for musical
purpose.
The presence of ghaTam is very rare in Hindi movie songs,
and one such song where it is used dominantly is in
Bardari (1955) song by Talat- tasveer banaataa hu.n magar
tasaveer nahii.n banatii.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljC3Fn5bVpo
This another song from Shart (1954) by Lata
kahaa.N se le ke aa_ii hai.n ... merii taqadiir ke maalik,
also contain dominance of ghaTam instrument.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0WCKcgd61A
( courtesy, Prthvidas Gupta )
Are there more similar songs like that ?
pdg
(snipped)
> This another song from Shart (1954) by Lata
> kahaa.N se le ke aa_ii hai.n ... merii taqadiir ke maalik,
> also contain dominance of ghaTam instrument.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0WCKcgd61A
> ( courtesy, Prthvidas Gupta )
>
Dasgupta is one word, if you may please. Please use pdg if typing out
the whole name is a bit strenuous.
UVR
> One musical instrument, known as " ghaTam " in South India
> is extensively used in classical music concerts, known as
> layavinyaasam, where raaga is played on different instruments
> like, morsing, veena, violin, mrudangam, kanjira and ghaTam
> one after the other and finally all will be played synchronously.
>
> The ghatam is an earthen pot, made specially, for musical
> purpose.
>
> The presence of ghaTam is very rare in Hindi movie songs,
> and one such song where it is used dominantly is in
> Bardari (1955) song by Talat- tasveer banaataa hu.n magar
>
> This another song from Shart (1954) by Lata
> kahaa.N se le ke aa_ii hai.n ... merii taqadiir ke maalik,
> ( courtesy, Prthvidas Gupta )
>
> Are there more similar songs like that ?
Interesting topic, Raaz saahib.
The ghatam sound is being encountered with greater frequently in
recent film songs. E.g., yuu.Nhii chalaa chal raahi (Swades, AR
Rahman), bol na halke halke (Jhoom Barabar Jhoom, Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy),
etc. But let's not think that the instrument is only used by MDs who
have a "south Indian background." IIRC people as "northie" as Uttam
Singh (I think -not sure-, in Gadar) and Vishal Bhardwaj (Border,
Omkara) have used it (I could be misremembering the exact
soundtracks, but I'm sure I've heard the ghatam used by these two).
LP used it in "man kyoon behka ri behka" (Ustav) and I think Jatin-
Lalit might've used it in a song or two (at least) also.
Oh, I'm not saying it's not rare. But it may not be as rare as one
might think it is :-)
-UVR.
Shekhar
> One musical instrument, known as " ghaTam " in South India
> is extensively used in classical music concerts, known as
> layavinyaasam, where raaga is played on different instruments
> like, morsing, veena, violin, mrudangam, kanjira and ghaTam
> one after the other and finally all will be played synchronously.
>
> The ghatam is an earthen pot, made specially, for musical
> purpose.
>
> The presence of ghaTam is very rare in Hindi movie songs,
> and one such song where it is used dominantly is in
> Bardari (1955) song by Talat- tasveer banaataa hu.n magar
>
> This another song from Shart (1954) by Lata
> kahaa.N se le ke aa_ii hai.n ... merii taqadiir ke maalik,
> ( courtesy, Prthvidas Gupta )
>
> Are there more similar songs like that ?
Try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw0BY6HXWjg&feature=related
Shekhar
Sukesh
> One musical instrument, known as " ghaTam " in South India
> is extensively used in classical music concerts, known as
> layavinyaasam, where raaga is played on different instruments
> like, morsing, veena, violin, mrudangam, kanjira and ghaTam
> one after the other and finally all will be played synchronously.
>
> The ghatam is an earthen pot, made specially, for musical
> purpose.
>
> The presence of ghaTam is very rare in Hindi movie songs,
> and one such song where it is used dominantly is in
> Bardari (1955) song by Talat- tasveer banaataa hu.n magar
>
> This another song from Shart (1954) by Lata
> kahaa.N se le ke aa_ii hai.n ... merii taqadiir ke maalik,
> ( courtesy, Prthvidas Gupta )
>
> Are there more similar songs like that ?
How about
aajaa re ab meraa dil - AAH ?
Regards
Sukesh
P Dasgupta
> One musical instrument, known as " ghaTam " in South India
> is extensively used in classical music concerts, known as
> layavinyaasam, where raaga is played on different instruments
> like, morsing, veena, violin, mrudangam, kanjira and ghaTam
> one after the other and finally all will be played synchronously.
>
> The ghatam is an earthen pot, made specially, for musical
> purpose.
>
> The presence of ghaTam is very rare in Hindi movie songs,
> and one such song where it is used dominantly is in
> Bardari (1955) song by Talat- tasveer banaataa hu.n magar
>
> This another song from Shart (1954) by Lata
> kahaa.N se le ke aa_ii hai.n ... merii taqadiir ke maalik,
> ( courtesy, Prthvidas Gupta )
>
> Are there more similar songs like that ?
So Ghatam it is. I had wondered in many songs if it was just a single
high-pitched tabla playing. Apparently (IIRC Supriya Devi/Chowdhury
mentioned in an article, readers might recall her as heroine of Door
Gagan Ki CM) Ravi used to play this instrument in the mid 50s.
The following song from a 1955 Hemant composition uses Ghatam quite
heavily (it's not so evident in the slight low-res youtube version,
but its clear in gramophone)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVj6UdRP11o
This song is from the Bengali movie Shapmochan.
-pdg/
raaz
>
> So Ghatam it is. I had wondered in many songs if it was just a single
> high-pitched tabla playing. Apparently (IIRC Supriya Devi/Chowdhury
> mentioned in an article, readers might recall her as heroine of Door
> Gagan Ki CM) Ravi used to play this instrument in the mid 50s.
>
> The following song from a 1955 Hemant composition uses Ghatam quite
> heavily (it's not so evident in the slight low-res youtube version,
> but its clear in gramophone)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVj6UdRP11o
>
> This song is from the Bengali movie Shapmochan.
>
name.
Your inquistiveness might have made you look for more details
about ghaTam already, however, you can see some more from
the following links.
raaz
>
> How about
>
> aajaa re ab meraa dil - AAH ?
>
it did not struck to me.
UVR
Are you sure it's really the ghatam you're hearing in the gramophone
version and not something like the khol? I don't hear any ghatam in
the YT version.
-UVR.
raaz
>
> Try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw0BY6HXWjg&feature=related
>
Another classic song from Bawre Nain (1950) music by Roshan,
Kayaalo.n me.n kisii ke, is tarah aayaa nahii.n karate
Ahmad
> On Sep 17, 11:58 am, Shekhar <shekhar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Another classic song from Bawre Nain (1950) music by Roshan,
> Kayaalo.n me.n kisii ke, is tarah aayaa nahii.n karate
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cAhn5vetZo
This is a great duet from Geeta Dutt and Mukesh. One to treasure and
is among my favourites in my collection.
Thanks for the memory.
MA
raaz
>
> Oh, I'm not saying it's not rare. But it may not be as rare as one
> might think it is :-)
>
me that, they contain ghaTam music.
In a way they are rare because, in a single movie 5 songs have
ghaTam music, which no other Hindi movie may have.
Is the ghaTam a popular musical instrument in the valley/hillside,
of the movie's background ?
Ashiana (1952) music Madan Mohan.
1) meraa qaraar le jaa mujhe beqaraar kar jaa - Talat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHC_ZyE54Jc
2) meraa qaraar le jaa mujhe beqaraar kar jaa - Lata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_41Pa2lU4WM
3) mai.n paagal meraa manavaa paagal - Talat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeLDEcpacRs&feature=related
4) mere piyaa se ko_ii jaake kah de - Lata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ94E2AMtq0
5) tum chaa.Nd ke saath chale aa_o - Lata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQqpARCT_zs
Pavan Jha
Keeping the inflow of Ghatam intances, can we extend it to Other
rarely used instruments..
Can even have Composer wise instances.. (like Pancham's flanger.. Can
leave Pancham untouched for a week as his usage/instances can
overshadow the thread and mention of other notable instruments and
composers..)
Pavan
On Sep 22, 10:50 am, raaz <razak1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 17, 11:39 am, UVR <u...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh, I'm not saying it's not rare. But it may not be as rare as one
> > might think it is :-)
>
> Though, I have listened these songs many times, never struck to
> me that, they contain ghaTam music.
>
> In a way they are rare because, in a single movie 5 songs have
> ghaTam music, which no other Hindi movie may have.
>
> Is the ghaTam a popular musical instrument in the valley/hillside,
> of the movie's background ?
>
> Ashiana (1952) music Madan Mohan.
>
> 1) meraa qaraar le jaa mujhe beqaraar kar jaa - Talathttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHC_ZyE54Jc
>
> 2) meraa qaraar le jaa mujhe beqaraar kar jaa - Latahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_41Pa2lU4WM
>
> 3) mai.n paagal meraa manavaa paagal - Talathttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeLDEcpacRs&feature=related
>
> 4) mere piyaa se ko_ii jaake kah de - Latahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ94E2AMtq0
UVR
> Fantastic Thread!
> Keeping the inflow of Ghatam intances, can we extend it to Other
> rarely used instruments..
> Can even have Composer wise instances.. (like Pancham's flanger.. Can
> leave Pancham untouched for a week as his usage/instances can
> overshadow the thread and mention of other notable instruments and
> composers..)
>
> Pavan
Speaking of Pancham, I can't recall a single song where he used the
ghaTam. By which I mean exactly what I say -- *I can't recall* -- and
not that I am of the confirmed opinion that he never utilized that
instrument.
But ... has he?
-UVR.
Vinay
For starters, '1942-ALS'?.
Vinay
> -UVR.
raaz
Lahore (1949) music Shyamsunder
bahaare.n phir bhii aaye.ngii - Lata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grnyAU-OlNI
vijaykumark
Talat's "tum ko fursat ho" from Bewafa.
Vijay
Aditya
raaz
Ladki (1953) music R.Sudarshanam & Dhaniram
chiin le Kushiyaa.n merii - Geeta Dutt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KuUMo_aIKk
raaz
I am posting here.
Nausherwaan-e-Aadil (1957) music C,Ramachandra
ye hasarat thii ke is duniyaa me.n bas do kaam kar jaate - Rafi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luX52Gh3Q9c
raaz
rulaa kar chal diye ik din ha.Nsii ban kar jo aaye the - Hemant Kumar
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/hindi_bollywood/s/movie_name.365/
raaz
Takaraa gayaa tum se dil hii to hai - Rafi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7VgphxLAc
Sukesh
> Aan (1952) music Naushad
> Takaraa gayaa tum se dil hii to hai - Rafihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7VgphxLAc
Some more candidates to consider.
AMBAR=1952=ham tum yeh bahaar=Mohammad Rafi + Lata Mangeshkar
ANDAZ=1949=tu kahe agar=Mukesh
BAGHI=1953=bahaare.n ham ko=Lata Mangeshkar
BARADARI=1955=tasveer banaataa hoo.n=Talat Mehmood
CHAALIS DIN=1959=baithe hai.n reh guzar mei.n=Asha Bhosle
GEET GAYA PATHARONE=1964=tere khayaalo.n mei.n ham=Asha Bhosle
POONAM=1952=ab to aaja balam=Lata Mangeshkar
SHART=1954=mere taqdeer ke maalik=Lata Mangeshkar
SHIKAST=1953=sapno ki suhaani duniyaa mei.n=Talat Mehmood
THOKAR=1953=ai game dil kyaa karoo.n=Asha Bhosle
THOKAR=1953=ai game dil kyaa karoo.n=Talat Mehmood
Regards
Sukesh
