Background music of Sholay
Ravi Krishna
I think this thread deserves discussion.
When it comes to talking about background music one film which stands head
and shoulders about all other Indian movies was SHOLAY. Hats off to RDB for
composing that terrific and hauting BM. The music which comes out when
Gabbar gets introduced became some sort of legend. In fact so much was the
BM noticed that when kid tell its story they invariably play BM also by
mouth.
Another fantastic piece of music was when Sanjeev Kumar sees the deadbodies
of his family one by one by lifting the cloth. The music resembled some
cycle chains being softly hit. That music was later used by RDB in other
movies also.
Does anybody remember the mouth organ which Amitab plays in Tkahur's home.
That music was later on recycled by RDB in the film "The great gambler" in
the song "do labzon ki hain...".
--
S. Ravi Krishna
S.Jagadish
Sorry Ravi, but howcome I didnt see a single line where you've criticised RDB ?
*Couldnt help asking !*
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Ruta Wilk
Ravi Krishna <rkri...@informix.com> wrote:
>
>When it comes to talking about background music one film which stands head
>and shoulders about all other Indian movies was SHOLAY. Hats off to RDB for
>composing that terrific and hauting BM. The music which comes out when
>Gabbar gets introduced became some sort of legend. In fact so much was the
>
Sholay is indisputably one of the best movies to come out of
Bollywood ever. R D Burman certainly helped the mood with the
whistling-bullets howling-coyotes sound effects. But original
composition? Not! See the film "For a few Dollars More", one of the
Clint Eastwood/ Sergio leone trilogy (along with "The Good, the Bad
and the Ugly" and "A Fistful of Dollars").
While glorying in that film, check out Indio's role, and write
down 20 similarities between his and Gabbar's. Amjad's finest 3
hours on celluloid, but there's no mistaking the prototype, right
down to swatting the spider/fly.
>
>Does anybody remember the mouth organ which Amitab plays in Tkahur's home.
>That music was later on recycled by RDB in the film "The great gambler" in
>the song "do labzon ki hain...".
Possibly the most moving sequence in contemporary Hindi movies, it's
grace, muted tone, tenderness and tenor of unrequited love was set
off near perfection by the haunting harmonica score, and served as a
terrific counterpoint to an otherwise dynamic and theatrical film.
But again, original it warn't. You should have guessed, folks. You
don't see many of them hacienda style ranch houses in rural India,
now, do ya? Nor many of them thar funny lookin' lanterns, straight
out of "Bonanza"? Yep, lock stock and verandah out of another
western. Give me a week, I'll get you the name, it most probably
starred Gregory Peck, but don't hold me to that.
I'm sure the resemblance of Asrani's turn as the old fashioned jailer
to a mix of Inspector Clouseau and Chaplin's tramp hasn't escaped
your eagle eye, either.
Point of all this is, don't go overboard with the originality thing.
The average Indian audience wouldn't get to enjoy some of the
finest in world cinema if it were not for the plagiaristic bent of
some (no, most) Indian directors. If they can replicate something
competently and well, bravo!
Harsh.
Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon
In article <4pdqr1$q...@news1.ucsd.edu> rw...@weber.ucsd.edu (Ruta
Wilk) writes:
> Point of all this is, don't go overboard with the originality thing.
> The average Indian audience wouldn't get to enjoy some of the finest
> in world cinema if it were not for the plagiaristic bent of some
> (no, most) Indian directors. If they can replicate something
> competently and well, bravo!
Well said, Harsh (or Ruta Wilk -- whoever you are). But by the
same argument, don't overdo the 'Indians copy from Hollywood' thing
either... "Sholay" *is* a Western as far as genre goes --- but its
setting, situational narrative and atmosphere is quite properly
indigenous. A Western *will* always have Westernish theme music (see
"Joshilay" for instance --- an almost worthy heir to "Sholay" ---
another instance of the same situation) --- but the tune is certainly
not a copy of any of the Westerns you cited (I have seen all three and
possess recordings of theme music from all of them).
We have, earlier on this forum, seen many arguments trying to
make "Sholay" out into a desi "Mackenna's Gold", for instance --- and
those attempts at finding 'plagiarization' have fallen flat on their
face. 'Staying close to a genre' doesn't become 'plagiarism' (why am I
sounding familiar already?) --- otherwise all the spaghetti Westerns
from Hollywood are the same movie.
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Rahul Shiyekar
>and shoulders about all other Indian movies was SHOLAY. Hats off to RDB for
>composing that terrific and hauting BM.
Also worth mentioning is the BM of '1942-A Love Story'. It really made
me feel as if the whole story is happening in front of me. I guess it was
again R.D. Burman.
- Rahul
Aman Kohli
Rahul Shiyekar wrote:
>
> Also worth mentioning is the BM of '1942-A Love Story'. It really made
> me feel as if the whole story is happening in front of me. I guess it was
> again R.D. Burman.
>
> - Rahul
The BM for 1942 was, I think, not done by RDB. A Mr Singh did, though
I may be wrong.
--
Aman
Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Neeraj" == Neeraj Deshmukh <desh...@isip01.isip.msstate.edu> writes:
Neeraj, a good defence you have put up.
BTW, it doesn't address the killing of a fly by Gabbar etc that Harsh
has mentioned. I don't know why it didn't occur to Ramesh Sippy to make
Gabbar kill a cockroach to indianize the scene :)
--
Kuntal.
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Kuntal M Daftary
Kuntal Shah wrote:
> Neeraj, a good defence you have put up.
yeah... well said harsh and well defended neerajbhai...
> BTW, it doesn't address the killing of a fly by Gabbar etc that Harsh
> has mentioned. I don't know why it didn't occur to Ramesh Sippy to make
> Gabbar kill a cockroach to indianize the scene :)
and well humorized (i make my vocabulary) kuntal
that is true... the character of gabbar was certainly not original...
besides, certain scenes or ideas in the film were also not original...
like the bridge scene... wasnt it taken from good, bad, ugly (not sure - but 1 of the 3)
and even isnt the coin drama flicked from one of the 3 films?
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bye for now...
kuntal
yeh hamari badnaseebi jo nahin to aur kyaa hai
ke usi ke ho gaye hum jo na ho sakaa hamaraa...
Ashok
In article <4pdqr1$q...@news1.ucsd.edu>, rw...@weber.ucsd.eduì says...
>
>Sholay is indisputably one of the best movies to come out of
>Bollywood ever. R D Burman certainly helped the mood with the
>whistling-bullets howling-coyotes sound effects. But original
>composition? Not! See the film "For a few Dollars More", one of the
>Clint Eastwood/ Sergio leone trilogy (along with "The Good, the Bad
>and the Ugly" and "A Fistful of Dollars").
>
>While glorying in that film, check out Indio's role, and write
>down 20 similarities between his and Gabbar's. Amjad's finest 3
>hours on celluloid, but there's no mistaking the prototype, right
>down to swatting the spider/fly.
>
>don't see many of them hacienda style ranch houses in rural India,
>now, do ya? Nor many of them thar funny lookin' lanterns, straight
>out of "Bonanza"? Yep, lock stock and verandah out of another
>western. Give me a week, I'll get you the name, it most probably
>starred Gregory Peck, but don't hold me to that.
>
>The average Indian audience wouldn't get to enjoy some of the
>finest in world cinema if it were not for the plagiaristic bent of
>some (no, most) Indian directors. If they can replicate something
>competently and well, bravo!
>
Don't go overboard with the authnticity and originality of Hollywood
either. As controversial Smithsonian exhibition couple of years ago
made clear, the West as depicted in the Western films didn't exist
anywhere any time. As for originality, the two clusters of somewhat
better Westerns ("For A Fistful of Dollars" etc, and "The Magnificent
Seven", ..) are based on Kurosawa's Japanese films: 'Yojimbo' and
'Seven Samurai', respectively. While the Hollywood versions did an
adequate job in capturing the surface features of the Kurosawa films,
they were no match to the artistry and depth that's in the originals.
Ashok
PS: :)) You have a week; get us the name; it's alright if it's not a
Gregory Peck film. :)
ahobson
I saw Sholay for the first time last night, so I'm no expert, but I'm
definitely a fan. The harmonica solo nagged at me the whole time; have I
heard that before? Where have I heard it if so? I think it was just so
musically embedded in the genre that it was culturally familiar, without
referring to any specific tune from any other film. In fact, that
re-production of the Western's codes, values, film language etc in a
non-parodic way was extraordinary and the music throughout has the same
quality.
Looking forward to many more viewings.
Randjiet Bansraj
In article <31BC84...@ecn.purdue.edu>, daf...@ecn.purdue.edu says...
>
>Kuntal Shah wrote:
>
>> Neeraj, a good defence you have put up.
>
> yeah... well said harsh and well defended neerajbhai...
>
>> BTW, it doesn't address the killing of a fly by Gabbar etc that
Harsh
>> has mentioned. I don't know why it didn't occur to Ramesh Sippy to
make
>> Gabbar kill a cockroach to indianize the scene :)
>
> and well humorized (i make my vocabulary) kuntal
>
> that is true... the character of gabbar was certainly not
original...
> besides, certain scenes or ideas in the film were also not
original...
> like the bridge scene... wasnt it taken from good, bad, ugly
(not sure - but 1 of the 3)
>
No,it's taken from "BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID"
Bansie
Ikram Ahmed Khan
Kuntal Shah (kun...@india.ti.com) wrote:
: >>>>> "Neeraj" == Neeraj Deshmukh <desh...@isip01.isip.msstate.edu> writes:
: Neeraj, a good defence you have put up.
: BTW, it doesn't address the killing of a fly by Gabbar etc that Harsh
: has mentioned. I don't know why it didn't occur to Ramesh Sippy to make
: Gabbar kill a cockroach to indianize the scene :)
Er... correct me, but does he kill a fly or does he kill a big ant? I think
that it was a "cheeNta" that Gabbar kills whereas Indio does in the fly.
Btw, Gabbar's personality is not manic depressive like Indio's was,
methinks. 'ah remember reading this interview with Javed where he talks
about how they wanted to make a western baddie and how they ended up making
him speak the Awadhi dialect and chew tobacco and so on. But Amjad of course
made the role into the legend. The guy was a regular theatre actor on the
Bombay scene and he and his college (National , Bandra) won lots of drama
competitions. Another very interesting portrayal was the Inspector in
Qurbani. Also check out his 10-minute role in Shatranj ke khilaari (beware,
a boring movie by some standards). If not for weight problems he could have
walked with SanjeevK anyday. mHo.
And what bridge scene are we talking about in Sholay??
Later,
Ikram.
Chetan
In article <4q6uni$l...@news.tamu.edu>,
iak...@eesun2.tamu.edu (Ikram Ahmed Khan) wrote:
>And what bridge scene are we talking about in Sholay??
The one where Sanjeev doubles Amjad's grand slam bid despite a severly
handicapped hand.
:)
C
Sandeep S Bajwa
In article <4q6uni$l...@news.tamu.edu>,
>
>Ikram.
WHAT!!! :(
Shatranj ke Khiladi is boring!! you outta mind! :(
Shatranj ke khiladi is greaT!!
You need to understand Urdu greatly to understand this movie.
Watch out the costumes, language, story, music, everything
WHOLE MOVIE IS A CLASSIC.
off course directed by SATYAJIT RAY.
--
Sandeep Singh Bajwa
http://www.pitt.edu/~ssbst3
Sandeep S Bajwa
In article <4qbugn$5...@news.tamu.edu>,>Sandeep S Bajwa (ssb...@pitt.edu) wrote:
>: Ikram Ahmed Khan <iak...@eesun2.tamu.edu> wrote:
>: >Qurbani. Also check out his 10-minute role in Shatranj ke khilaari (beware,
>: >a boring movie by some standards). If not for weight problems he could have
>: >walked with SanjeevK anyday. mHo.
>
>: WHAT!!! :(
>: Shatranj ke Khiladi is boring!! you outta mind! :(
>: Shatranj ke khiladi is greaT!!
>: You need to understand Urdu greatly to understand this movie.
>: Watch out the costumes, language, story, music, everything
>: WHOLE MOVIE IS A CLASSIC.
>: off course directed by SATYAJIT RAY.
>
>
> I wrote. I said " beware, a boring movie by some standards ". Not my
> standards. And no, you don't need to understand Urdu that well, after all
> the movie is shown with pretty decent sub-titles.
>
> However since you did bring up the issue, I am distressed by movies like
> this. Ray is probably less to blame than other "art" directors. But at
> times it does feel that they are selling our poverty and misery and making
> a name for themselves. Most of Ray's movies were rather well within the
> bounds (overstretch the bounds tho') of normal commercial cinema. But I
"Art" directors are the real artists. Commercial
directors are there to fool the audience to make some money. That's the
way I see. Govind, Anil Kapoor, etc. are only to make MONEY and are not
movie artists of any sort. May be they are the modern "BHANDS". :)
> wonder about some others.... Are they making films to make themselves
> famous, or are they committed to the cause the movie is espousing.
Western directors don't made up things about India themselves. The
reality is that INDIA IS POOR. ACCEPT IT!! The poorest country
in the earth, because 30-40% of the world's poor live in India.
>
> My point about such movies is, that to illustrate their point, they often
> go to rather boring lengths. The historical point made in this movie is
> that the Nawwaabs and the rest were busy doing trivial things while the
> world was crumbling around them. Using interminably loooooooooong shots
> once or twice for the Shatranj was I guess pardonable. But all the
> time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
SIR! Take a course in movie watching, EACH director has a
different style, some like fast narrative, others slow. Some give more
detail on canvas background and music etc. I recommend you to watch
Shatranj ke Khiladi again and try to understand the movie.
It is about the two chess players who are prominent part of Awadh
which is being challenged by Britsh, Awadh being ruled by Wajid Ali Shah
(played by Amjad Khan) is shown in bad shape, no army, ruler indulged in
all sort of stuff. Even people are laid back, like out protagnists
Sanjeev Kumar and Saeed Jaffrey, they are so much into Chess playing that
they would go to somebody's house to ask him about his health but the
real motive is that they need to play chess there. In the end both of
heroes end up telling the real problem which was that they didnot trust
their wives anymore. It is a simply great narrative.
> A similar theme is also expressed by Sahib bibi aur ghulaam about the
> decaying nature of the Nawaabs and their royal pursuit. but comparatively
> at least they tried to get a story in between all that with some great
> songs.
>
Sahib Biwi aur Ghulam was another Classic.
> My question to "art" film-makers is this: Sure you made a great portrait
> of the times. But how many people have gone to see it? In the case of the
> painter, probably the responsibility ends with making a good portrait. Not
> so, for the film-maker (mHo). If he is truly committed to the theme of the
> movie then he should make every effort that his film is watchable by the
> general population. If however, he is committed to his art (for arts' sake
Well! Film maker also has responsibility to uplift the taste of
general population by giving them good movies. In India commercial
cinema is made by 95% of business men who don't know ABC of cinema.
THEY ARE THERE TO EXPLOIT THE ENTERTAINMENT HUNGRY AUDIENCE OF INDIA.
> alone --- I want to make a movie that *I* want to see and to hell whether
> it will be palatable to others) and not to the theme then he ends up
> marginalising not only himself but the cause that he (or rather his film)
When an artist designs or creates something, it is for himself.
Mirza Ghalib wrote shairi not for world but for himself. He was
great that's why he is still remembered. Same way Guru Dutt,
Mehboob Khan, Bimal Roy, SAtyajit Ray will be remembered for ever
for their creative movies, Manmohan Desai PArkash mehra etc
are already forgotten!
> is espousing. It really doesn't matter that he ends up marginalising
> himself (After all, it is his choice), but it pains me when I see the
> cause getting marginalised. An example in point, is Anjuman which is about
> the plight of the "chikan" workers (a kind of embroidery work done on
> clothes) of Lucknow. The movie is a true classic in the way Muzaffar Ali
> has used the sepia tones, the language and the ethos of Lucknow, but the
> question is how many people in the country were made aware of the plight
BUT!! Muzaffar Ali is an artist I commend his creation, I have
watched his all movies, they are simply great!
> of the "chikan" workers (Btw, has Amin Meghani used this movie in his
> Great Masters series? A definite must, mHo). Fact is, that a movie like
> Coolie probably did a lot more for at least making the public consider the
> life of the coolie than Anjuman did for the "chikan" kaarigar.
>
>Later,
>Ikram.
Again! For me Muzaffar ali is lot lot better artist than
Manmohan Desai( who directed coolie).
Sanjeev kumar is better that Amitabh any day.
Best Regards,
Sandeep S Bajwa
shalini razdan
>==========Sandeep S Bajwa, 6/20/96==========
I think Ikram was talking about Indian filmakers who supposedly make
these movies for Indian audiences. As you correctly pointed out,
poverty is a reality of India, but the poor in India don't need a movie
to tell them that, they already know it!
>
>
>>
>> My point about such movies is, that to illustrate their
>point, they often
>> go to rather boring lengths. The historical point made in
>this movie is
>> that the Nawwaabs and the rest were busy doing trivial things
>while the
>> world was crumbling around them. Using interminably
>loooooooooong shots
>> once or twice for the Shatranj was I guess pardonable. But all the
>> time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>
> SIR! Take a course in movie watching, EACH director has a
>different style, some like fast narrative, others slow. Some give more
>detail on canvas background and music etc. I recommend you to watch
>Shatranj ke Khiladi again and try to understand the movie.
>
Did you understand the movie?! What you have given below is
a synopsis (already provided above by Ikram) of the movie not an
explanation.
> It is about the two chess players who are prominent part of Awadh
>which is being challenged by Britsh, Awadh being ruled by Wajid
Ali Shah
>(played by Amjad Khan) is shown in bad shape, no army, ruler
indulged in
>all sort of stuff. Even people are laid back, like out protagnists
>Sanjeev Kumar and Saeed Jaffrey, they are so much into Chess
>playing that
>they would go to somebody's house to ask him about his health but the
>real motive is that they need to play chess there. In the end both of
>heroes end up telling the real problem which was that they didnot trust
>their wives anymore. It is a simply great narrative.
>
>
Shalini
>>
>>Later,
>>Ikram.
Sandeep S Bajwa
>I think Ikram was talking about Indian filmakers who supposedly make
>these movies for Indian audiences. As you correctly pointed out,
>poverty is a reality of India, but the poor in India don't need a movie
>to tell them that, they already know it!
SO..... What would they make movies on?
Indian filmakers are not artist or educated enough to make Sci-fi's
Indian filmakers are not artist or educated enough to make Actions
Indian filmakers are not artist or educated enough to make Horrors
Indian filmakers are COPYTCATS enough. :)
Current Indian filmakers are so creative less that they would
not even make a movie on already well defined stories, such as
by Premchand, or other Indian writers.
Then there are few artists who make movies for their own sake not
for PEOPLE, because they love cinema and take it as an art as
oppose to their profession. They made movies which you call
"poverty ridden Indian films" cause that's the reality.
>>point, they often
>>> go to rather boring lengths. The historical point made in
>>this movie is
AT least they don't just stop the narrative and show the
gyrations of a semi-naked heroine and lecherous hero.
>>> that the Nawwaabs and the rest were busy doing trivial things
>>while the
>>> world was crumbling around them. Using interminably
>>loooooooooong shots
>>> once or twice for the Shatranj was I guess pardonable. But all the
>>> time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
YOU need to understand Hindi or Urdu. :)
>Did you understand the movie?! What you have given below is
>a synopsis (already provided above by Ikram) of the movie not an
>explanation.
>
explanation? read it again.
The narrative of 19th century Awadh is portrayed beautifully, it
is a story of two friends who love chess. Do you need any more
explanation or You want me to go deep down in camera angles and lighting
effects? :)
>> It is about the two chess players who are prominent part of Awadh
>>which is being challenged by Britsh, Awadh being ruled by Wajid
>Ali Shah
>>(played by Amjad Khan) is shown in bad shape, no army, ruler
>indulged in
>>all sort of stuff. Even people are laid back, like out protagnists
>>Sanjeev Kumar and Saeed Jaffrey, they are so much into Chess
>>playing that
>>they would go to somebody's house to ask him about his health but the
>>real motive is that they need to play chess there. In the end both of
>>heroes end up telling the real problem which was that they didnot trust
>>their wives anymore. It is a simply great narrative.
>>
>>
>
>
>Shalini
>
>
Regards,
Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Sandeep" == Sandeep S Bajwa <ssbst3> writes:
Sandeep> Shatranj ke khiladi is greaT!!
Sandeep> You need to understand Urdu greatly to understand this
Sandeep> movie.
Sandeep> Watch out the costumes, language, story, music,
Sandeep> everything
Sandeep> WHOLE MOVIE IS A CLASSIC.
Sandeep> off course directed by SATYAJIT RAY.
^^^^^^^^^^
What you describe is really off the course :) It's not necessary that
all movies directed by a great person are great by default !!
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-Kuntal.
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Sandeep S Bajwa
In article <c97msv6...@damayanti.india.ti.com>,
OKAY! SIR! Tell me a bad film directed by Satyajit Ray! :)
Kuntal Shah
Sandeep> OKAY! SIR! Tell me a bad film directed by Satyajit
Sandeep> Ray! :)
Shatranj ke khilaDi !!
Sandeep S Bajwa
Kuntal Shah
Sandeep> What was bad in Shatranj ke khiladi?
Hasn't been this laready discussed here ? My views are no different.
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Ikram Ahmed Khan
: PS: Does anyone
: a> remember the name of Ismail Merchant's recent movie ? It stars
: Sashi Kapoor, Om Puri, Shabana Azmi (?). The name is on the tip of my
: tongue....jsst don't remember it right now.....Its about this poet (shashi
: Kapoor) who wants to document his works before he dies and he finds a
: Urdu News Paper Columnist (Om Puri) to do this.
The film is "In Custody". I think it is available even in the US. Heck, if
Bandit Queen can be found at you local BlockBuster, why not this?
But I don't know for sure tho'. The Urdu name for the movie was "Mohafiz".
Later,
Ikram.
ps. Sorry but all this had no relation with Sholay's background music.
KahaaN kahaaN se guzar gaya!! :) :)
: b> Does anyone know the source to order this movie from?
: I would be willing to pay for a copy of this movie in NTSC.
:
Shetty
>>>>> "Sandeep" == Sandeep S Bajwa <ssbst3> writes:
Sandeep> OKAY! SIR! Tell me a bad film directed by Satyajit
Sandeep> Ray! :)
Shatranj ke khilaDi !!
--
-Kuntal.
Kuntal,
Why do U say that? Is it b'coz U found the movie extremely slow?
Then give the title of the movie again a second thought. Satyajit Ray
(I think) has done a great job at this movie....But then again, time
and again I have been accused of being biased about him :-)
-Naveen
nav...@austin.ibm.com
PS: Does anyone
a> remember the name of Ismail Merchant's recent movie ? It stars
Sashi Kapoor, Om Puri, Shabana Azmi (?). The name is on the tip of my
tongue....jsst don't remember it right now.....Its about this poet (shashi
Kapoor) who wants to document his works before he dies and he finds a
Urdu News Paper Columnist (Om Puri) to do this.
Balaji Thirumalai
> PS: Does anyone
> a> remember the name of Ismail Merchant's recent movie ? It stars
Its :In Custody:. I know that it was released in NTSC video in
the US. I have seen ads advertising this on the International
Channel in California. I dont know if your area carries the I-channel,
maybe you can call them and find out.......
> b> Does anyone know the source to order this movie from?
> I would be willing to pay for a copy of this movie in NTSC.
>
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