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Meaning of BaaT?

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kali...@gmail.com

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Apr 25, 2012, 7:25:10 AM4/25/12
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aksar kahaa jaata hai 'kyaa ThaaT - BaaT haiN!' Which apparently means living in glorious opulence. There is song in the film Bandini

O jaanewaale ho sake to laut ke aanaa
ye ghaaT tu ye baaT kahiiN bhuul na jaana?

so what is the meaning of 'BaaT'?

vrk

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Apr 25, 2012, 7:45:31 AM4/25/12
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shailendra in his characteristic style. baaT means road (apart from what is kept on the taraazoo which is different) baaT dekhnaa or baaT johnaa is a common usage. but by itself the word means road.

btw for years i used to sing this song as 'ye ThaaT tu ye baaT kahii.n bhool na jaanaa" which also makes sense by itself - though not as much as part of this song. but then that would be my mondegreen.

Balaji Murthy

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Apr 25, 2012, 7:22:03 PM4/25/12
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There is a very nice poem by Bachchan (Sr - the poet) which
illustrates the meaning very well (read it if you can get hold of it)

puurva chalane ke baTohii, baaT kii pahachaan kar le

baaT - path, way
baTohii - traveler

- Balaji

Abhay Phadnis

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Apr 26, 2012, 1:13:00 AM4/26/12
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On Thursday, 26 April 2012 04:52:03 UTC+5:30, Balaji Murthy wrote:
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> There is a very nice poem by Bachchan (Sr - the poet) which
> illustrates the meaning very well (read it if you can get hold of it)
>
> puurva chalane ke baTohii, baaT kii pahachaan kar le
>

http://www.anubhuti-hindi.org/gauravgram/bachchan/pahchan.htm

Lovely poem indeed - thanks for bringing it up!


Warm regards,
Abhay

Sudhir

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Apr 26, 2012, 2:41:07 AM4/26/12
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While in English script, the word is written with 'T' , in Hindi the
word is same as used in parsi surname Tata (the other being
'Tota' of Tota-Maina fame)


Road does not exactly define the word 'Baat'. A passage, which
one comes to know from usage is the correct answer for 'Baat'


So, both 'Ghat' and 'Baat' in the subject song, point to
one's experience.

Sudhir


Abhay Phadnis

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Apr 26, 2012, 4:06:24 AM4/26/12
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On Thursday, 26 April 2012 12:11:07 UTC+5:30, Sudhir wrote:
> While in English script, the word is written with 'T' , in Hindi the
> word is same as used in parsi surname Tata (the other being
> 'Tota' of Tota-Maina fame)

If you are talking of "totaa-mainaa", the "t" sound is not the same as in TaaTaa (or "ghaaT" or "baaT"). If you use that T sound for "ToTaa", you will be talking of making a loss, not of a parrot!

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> Road does not exactly define the word 'Baat'.

Platts defines "baaT" as "Way, road, path, track, footpath, byway".

Warm regards,
Abhay

vrk

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Apr 26, 2012, 5:04:00 AM4/26/12
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probably the reference is to the correct gujarati pronunciation of tata. in gujarati i am told the name is pronounced with the soft 't'. like tota. tata.

interestingly all the richest men in india are mispronounced

birla is actually biDlaa, tata is actually tata (soft t), ambani is actually ambaaNii (hard n)

vijay...@my-deja.com

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Apr 26, 2012, 9:16:44 AM4/26/12
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Absolutely...the Oriya word for road is "baaTo".

There is a pretty popular Oriya song
"baaTo chha.Do aaasuchhi koTako bajaar me.Dho"

Vijay

Sudhir

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Apr 30, 2012, 8:33:44 AM4/30/12
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On Apr 26, 1:06 pm, Abhay Phadnis <aphad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, 26 April 2012 12:11:07 UTC+5:30, Sudhir wrote:
Abhay ji:

I did mention that there are two Hindi words for English script: Baat

1 - 1st pronounced with 'ta' of Tata

2 - 2nd pronounced with 't' of 'Tota-Maina'


Sudhir


Tota-Maina ki Kahani to purani purani ho gayi

Ek daal pe tota bole


(both songs by: Ravindra Jain)

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