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Achal Agarwal

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Jul 5, 1993, 3:21:05 PM7/5/93
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Hi netters,
Yesterday, I finally got down to time the prelude for
"Apni to jaise taise, thodi aise ya waise"
and guess what?
The prelude runs for 3min and 3sec (on my copy of the song)
before K"The inimitable"K says "HAY, HEY HEY!"
If the prelude from "Pag ghunghroo" is assumed to not include
the initial words spoken by KK, then this is the longest prelude we
have seen timed so far, I believe.

Has anybody come up with some other times yet? It would be
interesting to find out which song has the longest prelude.
Also, any ideas on which is the longest Hindi song?

Achal.

SHOBA THAMMA

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Jul 5, 1993, 5:59:15 PM7/5/93
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Achal Agarwal (aaga...@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu) wrote:
: Hi netters,


: Also, any ideas on which is the longest Hindi song?

: Achal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The longest song, as far as I know, is one titled 'DISCO STATION'
picturised on Reena Roy in a film co-*ing Shatrughan Sinha, and is reported to
be 18 minutes long from start to finish, including preludes, afterludes (and all
kinds of lude lyrics - ;-) - fun, oops, pun intended). The film from which it
originates is an absolute mystery to me, the only clue being that it saw the
light of the day anytime between 1982 - 1984.

Hope that helps

Best Wishes

Shoba

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Sudeep Surender

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Jul 5, 1993, 8:07:29 PM7/5/93
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In article <1993Jul5.2...@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> sh...@astro.ocis.temple.edu (SHOBA THAMMA) writes:
>Achal Agarwal (aaga...@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu) wrote:
>: Hi netters,
>
>
>: Also, any ideas on which is the longest Hindi song?
>
>: Achal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The longest song, as far as I know, is one titled 'DISCO STATION'
>picturised on Reena Roy in a film co-*ing Shatrughan Sinha, and is reported to
>be 18 minutes long from start to finish, including preludes, afterludes (and all
>kinds of lude lyrics - ;-) - fun, oops, pun intended). The film from which it
>originates is an absolute mystery to me, the only clue being that it saw the
>light of the day anytime between 1982 - 1984.

My guess is "HATHKADDI". It used to be regularly featured on
CHitrahaar. Kinda hard to believe it could be 18 minutes. This song can
go down in history for a display of the most garish/outlandish wardrobe
ever worn by a heroine. (Reena used to be infamous for this).

A SUGGESTION: In the quest for the longest song, can we leave
the prelude out. (only the bare essentials) This way we can be fair to the
lyricist. Also we already have a list of preludes ranging from 2-3 minutes.
These songs should now be considered without the preludes. Lets post
some songs from memory and those who have these songs can time it. I
kinda liked this thread.


Enjoy.

Sudeep

MAHEENDRA BABURAO KASMALKAR

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Jul 6, 1993, 8:03:58 PM7/6/93
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>>: Hi netters,
>>
>>
>>: Also, any ideas on which is the longest Hindi song?
>>
>>: Achal.


I always thought that "Yeh ishk ishk hai" was the longest song but I could
have been easily mistaken.

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Jul 7, 1993, 11:46:48 AM7/7/93
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Would the theme song from "Jalwa" qualify for the longest song category. The
version I have on my cassette is about 25 minutes long.
Another contender might be the 'Pag ghungroo bandh...' disco qawaali from
Namak Halal if you include the prelude to it (remember the background music
thats playing while Amitabh is going around the ballroom looking for his
shoes).
Gurmeet

Pratap Khedkar

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Jul 7, 1993, 1:25:41 PM7/7/93
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Ignoring the musical preludes etc., one measure of "longest song"
could be the lyrics i.e. how many lines/couplets/stanzas etc.
With this criterion, the mammoth qawwali from Barsaat ki Raat
which begins with "Naa to kaaravaan ki talaash hai, ..."
and continues (without any break in the music) into "ye ishq
ishq hai.." has to be one of the longer ones around. The complete
rendition (available on the CD version -- most tapes have cut
versions) lasts for about 15-20 minutes. And the lyrics cover nearly
2 pages (without the extensive vocalized repetitions).
On top of which, it is one of the *best* songs of its period (imho).
I can post the complete lyrics, if there is sufficient interest.

\pratap

Makarand Gadre

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Jul 7, 1993, 8:45:42 PM7/7/93
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I am sure that the LONGEST PRELUDE is for the Dream Song of AWAARA.

The prelude goes on for a very long time and then come the first words "Yeh nahin Yeh nahin Zindagi Yeh nahin". BTW this song is more famous as "Ghara Aya Mera Paradesi".


Could somebody time it because I do not have a recording here.


Aniruddha B. Deglurkar

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Jul 8, 1993, 7:39:06 PM7/8/93
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sure...@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Sudeep Surender) writes:

>In article <1993Jul5.2...@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> sh...@astro.ocis.temple.edu (SHOBA THAMMA) writes:
>>Achal Agarwal (aaga...@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu) wrote:
>>: Hi netters,
>>
>>
>>: Also, any ideas on which is the longest Hindi song?
>>
>>: Achal.

How about 'Chatur naar kar ke singaar..... from Padosan ? Can the
dialogues in between be counted as part of the song?????

Looking at the trend I feel, it wont be long before a thread on
the 'shortest songs' starts!!!!!!!

That should not be less interesting than the current thread.!!!

Ani.

Dharmendra Khanolkar

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Jul 8, 1993, 8:40:15 PM7/8/93
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In article <C9vDp...@ms.uky.edu> a...@ms.uky.edu (Aniruddha B. Deglurkar)
writes:

[...]

> Looking at the trend I feel, it wont be long before a thread on
> the 'shortest songs' starts!!!!!!!

Taking the que from Ani, here it is....

The song from QSQT :

Kaahe sataye, kaahe ko rulaye
Raam kare tuzhko neend na aaye

I think thats all that is to the song or is it a prelude to the next song ??

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Jul 12, 1993, 4:00:32 AM7/12/93
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Pratap Khedkar (khe...@merak.crd.ge.com) wrote:

: Ignoring the musical preludes etc., one measure of "longest song"

: \pratap

Dear pratap,

My knowledge of hindi music is not very good but as far as i remember
there is a patriotic song which starts like this

" suno suno aiye baapu ki yeh amar kahani "

I think this song is longer than the kawwali that you mentioned( correct
me if I am wrong)

fbap...@leonis.nus.sg

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Jul 12, 1993, 4:01:28 AM7/12/93
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Pratap Khedkar (khe...@merak.crd.ge.com) wrote:

: Ignoring the musical preludes etc., one measure of "longest song"

SAMIUDDIN MOHAMMED

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Jul 12, 1993, 8:27:57 PM7/12/93
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In article <21r5n0$9...@nuscc.nus.sg>, fbap...@leonis.nus.sg writes:
>Pratap Khedkar (khe...@merak.crd.ge.com) wrote:
>
>: Ignoring the musical preludes etc., one measure of "longest song"
>: could be the lyrics i.e. how many lines/couplets/stanzas etc.
>: With this criterion, the mammoth qawwali from Barsaat ki Raat
>: which begins with "Naa to kaaravaan ki talaash hai, ..."
>
>My knowledge of hindi music is not very good but as far as i remember
>there is a patriotic song which starts like this
>
>" suno suno aiye baapu ki yeh amar kahani "
>
>I think this song is longer than the kawwali that you mentioned( correct
>me if I am wrong)
>

Well, if we use the above criterion of the no. of stanzas/couplets, then I
think that the song "Tere pyaar ka aasra chahta hun, wapha kar raha hun, wapha
chahta hun....." would figure among the longest. It has about 10-12 stanzas!!
Actually it is a competition bet. Rajendra kumar and Mala Sinha in the movie
(sung by Mahendra Kapoor and Lata). The quawwali from Barsaat ki Raat might be
longer in terms of total time because most of the lines are repeated 3-4 times
in the song.......

Sami Mohammed (A Naushad fan).....who feels that Roshan was #1 as far as filmi
quawwalis are concerned !!
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Jul 13, 1993, 1:14:33 AM7/13/93
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[Stuff about Longest song deleted...]

How can you include Qawwalis in Hindi songs?! Please! We are talking
about *Hindi* songs here! If only you guys could rewind your pea
brains to the 50's, you would recall the longest song in Indian music,
namely, "Hai apna dil to Aawara", which has 5 stanzas in it! The film
CID also has a song with 5 stanzas, "O leke pehla pehla pyaar..." And
there is another song which has 3 stanzas but each of them is very
long (The film and name of the song left to the net gurus as an
elementary exercise).

Flames welcome!
Joey.(The *real* music lover)
Ps: Hindi music of the 90's is utter TRASH !!

SAMIUDDIN MOHAMMED

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Jul 13, 1993, 1:18:09 PM7/13/93
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In article <CA37w...@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, ac...@ecn.purdue.edu writes:
>[Stuff about Longest song deleted...]
>
>How can you include Qawwalis in Hindi songs?! Please! We are talking
>about *Hindi* songs here!

Well, if you are talking about "shudhh" Hindi, then you may leave about 99% of
songs from Hindi movies out due to the presence of Urdu words such as dil,
pyaar, beqarar, zindagi, gham etc. You will probably be left with the likes of
"Priya pranseshwari, yadi aap hamy aadesh karen to........" and some of
Neeraj's compositions.


>If only you guys could rewind your pea
>brains to the 50's, you would recall the longest song in Indian music,
>namely, "Hai apna dil to Aawara", which has 5 stanzas in it! The film
>CID also has a song with 5 stanzas, "O leke pehla pehla pyaar..." And

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Looks like you need some fine-tuning yourself. People are talking about songs
with 8-12 stanzas, and you are still stuck at 5 ?! Khwab (oops sapnay) dekhna
bundh keejie and scan not only the 50's but the 60's, 70's and 80's as well.

>
>Flames welcome!

You wanted it , you've got it (and I'm sure you'll get some more)

>Joey.(The *real* music lover)

Depends on how you define *real*...


>Ps: Hindi music of the 90's is utter TRASH !!
>

At last we agree upon something :-)

Sami Mohammed (A Naushad fan)

ac...@ecn.purdue.edu

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Jul 13, 1993, 6:03:28 PM7/13/93
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Before I get any more flames, I APOLOGIZE! Sorry for posting such
a crude an insensitive article. Sometimes it is difficult to control
yourself, which is why they said back home to stay away from wine and
women...

Joey.

bha...@ccvax.ucd.ie

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Jul 19, 1993, 12:18:39 AM7/19/93
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In article <C9vDp...@ms.uky.edu>, a...@ms.uky.edu (Aniruddha B. Deglurkar) writes:
> sure...@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Sudeep Surender) writes:
>
>>In article <1993Jul5.2...@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> sh...@astro.ocis.temple.edu (SHOBA THAMMA) writes:
>>>Achal Agarwal (aaga...@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu) wrote:
>>>: Hi netters,
>>>
>>>
>>>: Also, any ideas on which is the longest Hindi song?
>>>
>>>: Achal.
>
> How about 'Chatur naar kar ke singaar..... from Padosan ? Can the
> dialogues in between be counted as part of the song?????


what about 'chalte chalte mere yeh geet yad rakhana'

quite long song.

-bharat

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