Kumar Sanu: Discussion and Questions
Mukerjee
I believe this is my first time actually posting on this newsgroup. I
read a few threads in it back in the mid-90's and I remember a very
lively and exciting Kumar Sanu vs. Udit Narayan debate. Anybody
remember that? Or is that ongoing? :)
I myself was in the "he sounds nasal and he's a Kishore Kumar clone"
camp in the early 90's but I came to appreciate his distinct voice as
time passed and his voice really transports me back to the 90's (a
rather memorable time in Hindi cinema, I think), just as Kishore's
voice transports me back to the 70s/80s/Amitabh-era. I feel he also
developed his own distinct style, whereas Sonu Nigam is *still* a
Rafi-clone, Amit Kumar is *still* a KK clone, and Sudesh Bhosle is
still an Amitabh stand-in. However I think that with Kumar Sanu, in
all fairness, he really has his own individual style (whether you
appreciate it or not). I'm certainly a very big fan of his now and I
actually do a decent job of imitating his singing voice (along with
Udit Narayan and Kishore Kumar).
Now here is my question for you music experts-- Where has Kumar Sanu
disappeared to? I have some information about him producing a film
(in which he is starring), but I don't see why that should have made
him practically disappear for the past 3 years! I quite miss his
playback singing, which I think particularly fit Shah Rukh Khan well.
The last time you see/hear those two together is "Ladki badi anjaani
hai" in Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.
So where is he? Do you think he will ever return in a big way, a la
the 1990's? Will we ever hear him do playback for the King Khan
again? Lastly, when was his last North American tour and when can we
expect to see him tour again? I'm in Toronto and both my wife and I
would love to see and hear him live.
Your responses would be much appreciated.
@bollyvista.com Amit Malhotra
>Hello everyone,
>
>I believe this is my first time actually posting on this newsgroup. I
>read a few threads in it back in the mid-90's and I remember a very
>lively and exciting Kumar Sanu vs. Udit Narayan debate. Anybody
>remember that? Or is that ongoing? :)
>
>I myself was in the "he sounds nasal and he's a Kishore Kumar clone"
>camp in the early 90's but I came to appreciate his distinct voice as
>time passed and his voice really transports me back to the 90's (a
>rather memorable time in Hindi cinema, I think), just as Kishore's
>voice transports me back to the 70s/80s/Amitabh-era. I feel he also
>developed his own distinct style,
Sure he got his own style, now he is even more nasal than he was
before and hence, even more annoying to listen to! WHY OH WHY do they
give him any songs to sing!
>whereas Sonu Nigam is *still* a
>Rafi-clone, Amit Kumar is *still* a KK clone, and Sudesh Bhosle is
>still an Amitabh stand-in.
ummm.. i really don't care what anybody has to say about this, but
Amit Kumar is NOT a KK clone. He is his son, hence the similarity.
But he has his own style and he DOES NOT TRY TO INTENTIONALY copy KK,
unlike Kumar Sanu and other singers whose careers started off by doing
so.
>However I think that with Kumar Sanu, in
>all fairness, he really has his own individual style (whether you
>appreciate it or not). I'm certainly a very big fan of his now and I
>actually do a decent job of imitating his singing voice (along with
>Udit Narayan and Kishore Kumar).
>
see it's a great thing that you are his fan :) as far as I'm
concerned, I really don't like to listen to him. give me even an
Amitabh Bachchan stand-in (Sudesh Bhosle that is ) anytime over Kumar
Sanu!
>Now here is my question for you music experts-- Where has Kumar Sanu
>disappeared to? I have some information about him producing a film
>(in which he is starring), but I don't see why that should have made
>him practically disappear for the past 3 years! I quite miss his
>playback singing, which I think particularly fit Shah Rukh Khan well.
>The last time you see/hear those two together is "Ladki badi anjaani
>hai" in Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.
>
maybe he is doing what he was doing before he started his singing
career ;-) (don't ask me what it was, I'm just glad to hear that you
think he has disappeared, i have been so detached with new music that
i never noticed that he was singing less and less).
>So where is he? Do you think he will ever return in a big way, a la
>the 1990's? Will we ever hear him do playback for the King Khan
>again? Lastly, when was his last North American tour and when can we
>expect to see him tour again? I'm in Toronto and both my wife and I
>would love to see and hear him live.
>
I hope he doesn't return (if he really has disappeared) :-D
Amit Malhotra
P.s. i guess it's obvious that i really don't like Kumar Sanu
V S Rawat
> Hello everyone,
>
> I believe this is my first time actually posting on this newsgroup.
Hello Mukherjee jii,
welcome to the newsgroup.
A note of caution. Kumar Shanu is the pet whipping boy of many a
RMIMers, and you are in for a hard time. you might get irritated with
senseless, nonstop beating you will find your fav getting accorded here.
Mr Malhotra has already started it.
But rest assured. There are people who will peacefully reply to your
queries in all earnest.
It is good that you have joined here. With such a badly-treated
singer, I hope that you will highlight several of his good and popular
songs and will correct the notions RMIMers carry about him.
To begin with, I particularly like one song of him from 80s. "mohabbat
kitane ra.ng badalatii hai". He has rendered it as a man possessed,
the prose of the prelude "pal me.n begaane ho jaate hai.n....", and
rest of the song in such a heart-bleeding manner, that it echoes in my
ears even now, though I think it had been 10 years when I heard it last.
> I
> read a few threads in it back in the mid-90's and I remember a very
> lively and exciting Kumar Sanu vs. Udit Narayan debate. Anybody
> remember that? Or is that ongoing? :)
I was not here then. Though there was thread last year when I had
mentioned kishore "kyaa khuub aa.Nkhe.n hai.n terii" as being rendered
by Sanu, and everybody had a laugh.
> I feel he also
> developed his own distinct style, whereas Sonu Nigam is *still* a
> Rafi-clone, Amit Kumar is *still* a KK clone, and Sudesh Bhosle is
> still an Amitabh stand-in. However I think that with Kumar Sanu, in
> all fairness, he really has his own individual style (whether you
> appreciate it or not). I'm certainly a very big fan of his now and I
> actually do a decent job of imitating his singing voice (along with
> Udit Narayan and Kishore Kumar).
wow!
would you mind recording and loading some of your songs (sung by you)
so that we can enjoy them.
Please.
> Now here is my question for you music experts-- Where has Kumar Sanu
> disappeared to?
No idea.
I remember his recent song in ARR's Kabhii na kabhii "mil ga_ii.n mil
ga_ii.n vo ma.nzile.n". The tune was from ARR's Tamil Duet. and is
considered one of his best album in tamil.
Then recently, our local radio FM channel Radio Mirchi started
broadcasting his message "radio mirchii is bhiiShon Garom", then I
came to know that he is bengalii.
Keep us posted. Hope he does return and reclaim his place like 80s
when he was considered no. 1.
-Rawat
Tadatmya Vaishnav
"V S Rawat" <vsr...@datainfosys.net> wrote in message
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>
> Keep us posted. Hope he does return and reclaim his place like 80s
> when he was considered no. 1.
>
> -Rawat
Kumar Sanu was 'no. 1' in the 80's? I don't think so. Although he has
sung some good/ok songs here and there in the 80's, his fame really rose
after 'Aashiqui' (1990), didn't it?
Regards,
Tadatmya.
@bollyvista.com Amit Malhotra
I think so too, Aashiqi was one of his first major movies, sadly,
that's when everybody noticed him..
>Regards,
>Tadatmya.
>
UVR
>> Kumar Sanu was 'no. 1' in the 80's? I don't think so. Although he has
>>sung some good/ok songs here and there in the 80's, his fame really rose
>>after 'Aashiqui' (1990), didn't it?
>
> I think so too, Aashiqi was one of his first major movies, sadly,
> that's when everybody noticed him..
I think RMIM is going to lynch me when I say this, but I don't
think he was as bad in Aashiqui as he became later. Three songs
by Sanu that I (do not seek out specifically to listen, but) do
not immediately turn off if they happen to be playing around me
are:
. ab tere bin jii le.nge ham -- Aashiqui [good tune]
. aa.Nkho.n me.n kyaa, is dil se puuchho zaraa -- Khamoshi [nice rhythm]
. jab koI baat biga.D jaaye -- Jurm [well sung]
-UVR.
@bollyvista.com Amit Malhotra
UVR, I'm not here to flame or anything :P just wanted to say, that I
too am found guilty of listening to his songs sometimes, or even
humming them (specifically a song like "jab koii baat bigaR jaaye",
which is by all means a nice song), but I still can not get myself to
like his singing. I have no clue why. If it wasn't for some good
tunes (probably because he got all the songs when he was up there), he
wouldn't be as famous as he is. IMHO, he doesn't deserve to be as
famous as he is (or was) in any case.
Amit Malhotra
Ritu
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I believe this is my first time actually posting on this newsgroup.
>
> Hello Mukherjee jii,
>
> welcome to the newsgroup.
>
> A note of caution. Kumar Shanu is the pet whipping boy of many a
> RMIMers, and you are in for a hard time. you might get irritated with
> senseless, nonstop beating you will find your fav getting accorded here.
Just to let you know.. Mukherjee is a regular on RAMLI and he is use
to even more senseless bashing of his idol SRK :). This one ended up
being a slightly mis-placed welcome :)))!
>
> Mr Malhotra has already started it.
I think Mr Malhotra has very politely stated his opinion. And I agree
with it. Kumar Sanu has some great songs but he's very difficult to
digest outside of those great songs. The A,B,C of singing teaches you
to use your guts and not your nose to sing. Mr Sanu fails at the
nursery level.
Just my opinion!
Cheers
Ritu
Ritu
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I believe this is my first time actually posting on this newsgroup.
>
> Hello Mukherjee jii,
>
> welcome to the newsgroup.
>
> A note of caution. Kumar Shanu is the pet whipping boy of many a
> RMIMers, and you are in for a hard time. you might get irritated with
> senseless, nonstop beating you will find your fav getting accorded here.
Just to let you know.. Mukherjee is a regular on RAMLI and he is use
to even more senseless bashing of his idol SRK :). This one ended up
being a slightly mis-placed welcome :)))!
>
> Mr Malhotra has already started it.
I think Mr Malhotra has very politely stated his opinion. And I agree
V S Rawat
You are right about the time frame.
But you would agree that aashiqii was a super duper bumper smash
ultimate hit. It launched nadeem shrawan to centre stage.
Ashiqii was a rage for almost a full year. I remember that when I had
put the cassette of aashiqi in my player, I removed it after full
three months, and it was always playing when I or anyone was in the room.
Before that, Laal Dupatta malmal kaa was similar hit, but aashiqi had
beaten that by miles.
It was said that Nadeem Shrawan had not prepared fresh music for
aashiqii. They had rather been struggling for years (lahoo ke do
ra.ng, etc.), and making a song bank of their good composition.
Gulshan Kumar had picked the choicest ones from that song bank. That
could be one reason that each and every song was superb and became
such a hit.
For those who came late, yes, it was gulshan kumar who gave Nadeem
Shrawan their brake. If he had not done that, he would have been alive
today.
-Rawat
Surjit Singh
>
> For those who came late, yes, it was gulshan kumar who gave Nadeem
> Shrawan their brake. If he had not done that, he would have been alive
brake? Interesting!
> today.
>
> -Rawat
>
--
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
Visit my home page at
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html
Ket...@att.net
>too am found guilty of listening to his songs sometimes, or even
>humming them (specifically a song like "jab koii baat bigaR jaaye",
>which is by all means a nice song), but I still can not get myself to
>like his singing. I have no clue why. If it wasn't for some good
>tunes (probably because he got all the songs when he was up there), he
I would love to see why that statement cannot be applied to most singers,
especially to the Rafi's/Talat's/Hemant's/Mukesh's of the 50's & 60s or Kishore
of the 70s.
You may extend it to the list of female singers too if you want.
>wouldn't be as famous as he is. IMHO, he doesn't deserve to be as
>famous as he is (or was) in any case.
>
>Amit Malhotra
Ketan
V S Rawat
> V S Rawat wrote:
>
>>
>> For those who came late, yes, it was gulshan kumar who gave Nadeem
>> Shrawan their brake. If he had not done that, he would have been alive
>
>
> brake? Interesting!
ouch! I had changed between break and brake three times, but I ended
up with the wrong word.
Oh! english.
-Rawat
Ritu
UVR.. if you had not been a mafia member I would have surely initiated
the lynching :). Aashiqui was the soundtrack that put me off
contemporary music completely. I guess a lot of it was to do with it
blaring from every possible source and everyone going gaga over it.
But yes.. 'Jab koi baat bigad jaaye' is actually nice. I even have it
in my collection (one of those cases where I like the English version
of the song a lot too). Sanu needs a good music director to keep him
restrained. Nadeem Shravan are obviously not it.!
But he has quite a few good songs to his credit (I might be confusing
a lot of his songs with Abhijeet). The ones I like
--Jab koi baat bigad jaaye (Jurm)
--Rooth na jaana tumse kahun to (1942 ALS)
--Mere mehboob mere sanam (Duplicate)
--Kathai aankhon wali ek ladki (?..to hark back to the Javed Akthar
thread.. Isn't Kathai a deep red? How can a girl have deep red eyes?!
Red-eye reduction problem??)
-- Badi mushkil ai khoya mera dil hai (?)
I'm sure there are more... but my memory fails me :)
Cheers
Ritu
>
>
> -UVR.
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
"Ritu" <rc0...@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> -- Badi mushkil ai khoya mera dil hai (?)
This is Abhijeet, from "Anjaam" (Anand-Milind).
Sanjeev
@bollyvista.com Amit Malhotra
you should have put it in ## ##, actually when you type the whole post
in english, so that us poor folks don't get confused, please put ## ##
around the whole thing. You know, hindi words and english words are
so easily mixed up considering both are written in roman.
Regards ;-)
Amit Malhotra
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
> It was said that Nadeem Shrawan had not prepared fresh music for
> aashiqii. They had rather been struggling for years (lahoo ke do
> ra.ng, etc.), and making a song bank of their good composition.
> Gulshan Kumar had picked the choicest ones from that song bank. That
> could be one reason that each and every song was superb and became
> such a hit.
Lahu Ke Do Rang? Is this different from the one done by Bappi Lahiri?
Sanjeev
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
"Amit Malhotra" <amit @ bollyvista . com> wrote in message
news:q32g409u6u5s48pf1...@4ax.com...
> On 4 Mar 2004 19:50:23 -0800, abud...@hotmail.com (Mukerjee) wrote:
>
> >Hello everyone,
> >
> >I believe this is my first time actually posting on this newsgroup. I
> >read a few threads in it back in the mid-90's and I remember a very
> >lively and exciting Kumar Sanu vs. Udit Narayan debate. Anybody
> >remember that? Or is that ongoing? :)
> >
> >I myself was in the "he sounds nasal and he's a Kishore Kumar clone"
> >camp in the early 90's but I came to appreciate his distinct voice as
> >time passed and his voice really transports me back to the 90's (a
> >rather memorable time in Hindi cinema, I think), just as Kishore's
> >voice transports me back to the 70s/80s/Amitabh-era. I feel he also
> >developed his own distinct style,
If that's the only place KK's voice transports you, you are missing out.
> >whereas Sonu Nigam is *still* a
> >Rafi-clone, Amit Kumar is *still* a KK clone, and Sudesh Bhosle is
> >still an Amitabh stand-in.
>
> ummm.. i really don't care what anybody has to say about this, but
> Amit Kumar is NOT a KK clone. He is his son, hence the similarity.
> But he has his own style and he DOES NOT TRY TO INTENTIONALY copy KK,
> unlike Kumar Sanu and other singers whose careers started off by doing
> so.
For Amit Kumar, it doesn't matter (IMO) whether or not he's consciously
trying to copy anyone - he has arguably a pleasing texture of voice, but his
sticking to sur is sketchy and his renditions generally forced and/or
clumsy. Similarities with his esteemed father, IMO, are limited to parts of
the voice texture - unfortunately it does not seem that KK really tried to
give his son any of the benefit of his singing experience. Both Sanu and
Sonu, particularly the latter, enjoy far better flexibility of voice and
general grace of movement than Amit Kumar. Given his ability, I would not
say Amit Kumar has been grossly under-utilized by the film industry.
Sanu, the king of "He~~~, He~~~~~~~", definitely has had nasality issues
(and wardrobe issues :-)), but has not enjoyed success without any reason.
Aside from some songs mentioned further down this thread, others of his I
liked were "Mera Dil Bhi Kitna Paagal Hai" from Saajan, and "Teri Ummeed
Tera Intezaar" from Deewaana (on the other hand, I don't like Sadhana
Sargam's emotionless rendition of this at all). I agree with UVR about the
Aashiqui songs. As is fairly well-known on RMIM, I have other issues with
Sonu's renditions, but for Pete's sake, please stop calling him a Rafi
clone...or else, start calling him a Sanu-clone, Mariah Carey-clone, and a
clone of all others whom he tries to incorporate into his singing.
Sanjeev
Sanjeev
V S Rawat
> --Kathai aankhon wali ek ladki (?..to hark back to the Javed Akthar
> thread.. Isn't Kathai a deep red? How can a girl have deep red eyes?!
diagnosis: Conjectivitis.
------------
Kattha_ii = Maroon
I guess, it relates to katthaa, that thing painted on betel leaf. That
is the colour.
> Red-eye reduction problem??)
There are softwares available which do that specific task.
To those who do not know. When a photo is taken from a digital camera,
red diode of digital camera is seen in the ratina of the eyes of the
person getting shot, giving him/ her a dracula like appearance. It is
called red-eye problem.
---------------
There was a song "strawberry Aa.nkhe.n" in Sapney.
It is said that there was a lot of misunderstanding between Javed
Akhtar (lyricist) and director the film. Javed wanted to use some
other term (aasamaanii?), but director insisted that he wants only
"strawberry" word. Javed complied.
But the song came out such an arbitrary song, that javed had become
very angry that he had given in. It is said that director (Rajiv
Menon) had to apologise to Javed to return in his good books.
------------
I differ from Javed about that. Not just strawberry word, but the
entire song is arbitrary, cheap prose. Just changing a word would not
have salvaged it.
here are the lyrics from isb. Judge for yourself.
recently there was a mention of Javed's writing excellence. eat these
gems.
vo ##ice cream## ho jo hai frij.h me.n rakhii
--
mere daadaa\-paradaadaa bhii paagal na the
--
naak to tho.Dii ##oversize## hai
##It's okay, madam. Plastic surgery## kar de.nge
--
merii to naak jaisii hai, tu apanaa sar dikhaa
lagataa hai tere sar me.n hai, bhuusaa bharaa huaa
kise pataa, kise khabar, tuu aadamii hai yaa bandar
--
don't make me tell you the name of the M.D.
-rawat
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ke : ##Strawberry## aa.Nkhe.n, sochatii kyaa hai.n
la.Dakii tum ho mahalo.n me.n ho palii
vo ##ice cream## ho jo hai frij.h me.n rakhii
tumane jo bhii kahaa, vo hameshaa huaa
tumhe.n har chiiz milii, ##mercedes## milii
phir bhii aa.Nkho.n me.n hai, koii Gam chhupaa huaa
phir bhii tum khush nahii.n, bolo hai baat kyaa
ai.n? ##no reaction? volume double## karuu.N?
##Strawberry## aa.Nkhe.n \threedots
tum dil kii har ik baat pe kyo.n itanii ho bezaar
tum pyaar ke sab Kvaabo.n ko bhii kahatii ho bekaar
pagalii kahii.n ho to nahii.n
laa_uu.N mai.n kyaa, koii davaa?
kavitaa : koii pagalii vagalii nahii.n mai.n, suno
davaa mujhako na do, ilaaj apanaa karo
mere daadaa\-paradaadaa bhii paagal na the
na koii paagalpan mujh me.n hai
paa_uu.N kaise khushii apane hii pyaar me.n
jab ke hai duHkh bharaa saare sa.nsaar me.n
mujhako aisii khushii se nahii.n vaasataa
meraa to hai alag raastaa
ke : kyaa? shaadii nahii.n chaahiye?
to phir ##route change##
aa.Nkho.n me.n hai.n hiire chamakate
chehare par hai.n, chaa.Nd damakate
gaalo.n me.n hai.n, phuul mahakate
ho.nTho.n me.n hai.n kaliyaa.N gulaabii
dil ko banaa de.n jaise sharaabii
naak to tho.Dii ##oversize## hai
##It's okay, madam. Plastic surgery## kar de.nge
kavitaa : merii to naak jaisii hai, tu apanaa sar dikhaa
lagataa hai tere sar me.n hai, bhuusaa bharaa huaa
kise pataa, kise khabar, tuu aadamii hai yaa bandar
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Arun Iyengar
> UVR, I'm not here to flame or anything :P just wanted to say, that I
> too am found guilty of listening to his songs sometimes, or even
> humming them (specifically a song like "jab koii baat bigaR jaaye",
> which is by all means a nice song), but I still can not get myself to
> like his singing. I have no clue why.
And then Ritu writes
"The A,B,C of singing teaches you to use your guts and not your nose to
sing."
Well, Kumar Sanu has several likeable traits IMO. He has a pleasing voice,
good depth, emotes OK, is not bad in sur. Being nasal doesn't imply lack of
depth and good examples are Mukesh and Saigal. But there is just one big
complaint I have of Sanu which makes his renditions unbearably grating on
your ears somewhat akin to what you feel when you rub thermocol on the wall;
his infamous nasal drawls on trailing notes. If he were to change that one
aspect of his singing, he would be much better rated I think.
Except ab tere bin (to some extent) there is no other likeable song in
Aashiqui by Sanu. Jab koii baat is indeed good. Apart from meraa dil bhii
from Saajan I also liked him in jiye.n to jiye.n kaise. He is good in kuchh
naa kaho though I can't stand ek la.Dakii ko dekhaa. I don't agree with
Sanjeev's remark about Sanu's rendition of terii ummiid teraa intezaar. He
is just as unbearable here as he has been in hundreds of other songs.
Rawat wrote
"I remember his recent song in ARR's Kabhii na kabhii "mil ga_ii.n mil
ga_ii.n vo ma.nzile.n". "
Are you sure about this? AFAIK Sanu has never sung for ARR. He has gone on
record criticizing Rahman's music as something that he can't understand.
A
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Neha Desai
>
>But he has quite a few good songs to his credit (I might be confusing
>a lot of his songs with Abhijeet). The ones I like
>
>--Jab koi baat bigad jaaye (Jurm)
>--Rooth na jaana tumse kahun to (1942 ALS)
>
>
Amit Kumar and he is not at all nasal(it is strange you got confused in this
song)
>--Mere mehboob mere sanam (Duplicate)
>--Kathai aankhon wali ek ladki (?..to hark back to the Javed Akthar
>thread.. Isn't Kathai a deep red? How can a girl have deep red eyes?!
>Red-eye reduction problem??)
>
>
Kathhai is dark brown(as dark as coffee granules:) as I know it...so I
found this
a very nice way of putting the color of her eyes(unless Juhi was wearing
some
other colored lens for that movie).
The only song I really like of Kumar Sanu- and it is not because of his
singing...
it is inspite of his singing- is:
aiye kaash ke hum hosh mein ab aane na paaye from Kabhi Haan Kabhi Naa.
--
Neha
@bollyvista.com Amit Malhotra
wrote:
>>
>>
>>But he has quite a few good songs to his credit (I might be confusing
>>a lot of his songs with Abhijeet). The ones I like
>>
>>--Jab koi baat bigad jaaye (Jurm)
>>--Rooth na jaana tumse kahun to (1942 ALS)
>>
>>
>And with Amit Kumar...the above song(rooth na jana tumse kahu to) is by
>Amit Kumar and he is not at all nasal(it is strange you got confused in this
>song)
>
No no no Neha ji, that song is definitely sung by Kumar Sanu. As a
matter of fact, AK never sung any songs for 1942, A Love Story and we
had asked him this question also (here is a quote from that
interview):
[quote]
Bollyvista: How did you feel when RDB switched to Kumar Sanu for
'1942 A Love Story'?
Amit Kumar: Pancham da was going through a lean period as everyone
knows and probably didn't have any say in the matter.
[/quote]
you can read the full interview (if you would like to) at :
http://www.bollyvista.com/article/a/34/635/
Regards,
Amit Malhotra
@bollyvista.com Amit Malhotra
>In article <ihch409cg39k9nas9...@4ax.com>, Amit Malhotra says...
>
>>too am found guilty of listening to his songs sometimes, or even
>>humming them (specifically a song like "jab koii baat bigaR jaaye",
>>which is by all means a nice song), but I still can not get myself to
>>like his singing. I have no clue why. If it wasn't for some good
>>tunes (probably because he got all the songs when he was up there), he
>
>I would love to see why that statement cannot be applied to most singers,
>especially to the Rafi's/Talat's/Hemant's/Mukesh's of the 50's & 60s or Kishore
>of the 70s.
>
>You may extend it to the list of female singers too if you want.
>
Ok. Your point is noted dear sir... I guess all I was trying to say
was that HE GOT ALL the songs WHILE HE (Kumar Sanu i.e.) did not
deserve them!
Other singers that you mentioned did deserve all the fame that they
got, IMHO.
Regards,
Amit Malhotra
@bollyvista.com Amit Malhotra
com> wrote:
>On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:59:41 -0800, Neha Desai <neha...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
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>No no no Neha ji, that song is definitely sung by Kumar Sanu. As a
>matter of fact, AK never sung any songs for 1942, A Love Story and we
>had asked him this question also (here is a quote from that
>interview):
>
"never sang"
Sorry to follow up on my post!
Amit
Neha Desai
Amit Malhotra wrote:
>
And with Amit Kumar...the above song(rooth na jana tumse kahu to) is by
>No no no Neha ji, that song is definitely sung by Kumar Sanu. As a
>matter of fact, AK never sung any songs for 1942, A Love Story and we
>had asked him this question also (here is a quote from that
>interview):
>
>
oops...you _are_ right..it is Kumar Sanu..what was I thinking...In my
head I
still hear Amit Kumar singing this song:). weird...
Sorry Ritu, I will make up for this by actually doing some QA for your
SDBurman site:)
and I wont make errors there:)
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Neha
Shalini Razdan
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> "I remember his recent song in ARR's Kabhii na kabhii "mil ga_ii.n mil
> ga_ii.n vo ma.nzile.n". "
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> Are you sure about this? AFAIK Sanu has never sung for ARR. He has gone on
> record criticizing Rahman's music as something that he can't understand.
It is indeed Kumar Sanu ( with Alka Y.). It's a gorgeous composition
destroyed by Sanu's poor singing. Sigh.
Shalini
Shalini Razdan
This is actually by Udit, not Sanu. I do have a mild liking for the
Sanu-Kavita duet "koi qayamat hone ko hai" from the same movie. Haven't
seen anyone else mention it, but one of the few Sanu songs I truly like is
"tujhe apna banane ki kasam kahee hai" from Sadak. Lovely composition,
nicely emoted and sung.
Shalini
> Cheers
> Ritu
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> > -UVR.
Satish Kalra
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Perhaps one of the reasons, if not the, why ARR never had Sanu sing again
for him. :-)
--
Happy Listenings.
Satish Kalra
Satish Kalra
...snipped....
> This is actually by Udit, not Sanu. I do have a mild liking for the
> Sanu-Kavita duet "koi qayamat hone ko hai" from the same movie. Haven't
> seen anyone else mention it, but one of the few Sanu songs I truly like is
> "tujhe apna banane ki kasam kahee hai" from Sadak. Lovely composition,
> nicely emoted and sung.
>
> Shalini
For composition, thank the Pakistani composer (?), for whom Mussarrat Nazir
sang the ghazal "chale to kaT hii jaayegaa safar, aahistaa, aahistaa....".
As for the singing/emotions, to each his own. :-)
V S Rawat
> "I remember his recent song in ARR's Kabhii na kabhii "mil ga_ii.n mil
> ga_ii.n vo ma.nzile.n". "
>
>
> Are you sure about this? AFAIK Sanu has never sung for ARR. He has gone on
> record criticizing Rahman's music as something that he can't understand.
>
yes, it is Sanu for ARR. His only song for ARR.
He criticised ARR much later saying that "his music is repetitive" and
all.
But, I have heard, they have patched up and might come together again.
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Are there other examples when a singer criticised the music of some
m.d. for whom he/ she had sung?
-Rawat
V S Rawat
You could be right.
I meant a movie directed by Mahesh bhatt with music by NS in their
ealier awataar in 80s. Forgot the name. "ma.nzile.n aur bhii hai.n?"
or that could also be wrong.
-Rawat
Tadatmya Vaishnav
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> This is actually by Udit, not Sanu. I do have a mild liking for the
> Sanu-Kavita duet "koi qayamat hone ko hai" from the same movie. Haven't
> seen anyone else mention it, but one of the few Sanu songs I truly like is
> "tujhe apna banane ki kasam kahee hai" from Sadak. Lovely composition,
> nicely emoted and sung.
>
> Shalini
Nice (lifted) tune, but not very well sung. Nasal element dominates too
much in 'khaa_ii hai', so that it's actually something like 'khaa.n_ii.n
hai.n' :)
Regards,
Tadatmya.
@bollyvista.com Amit Malhotra
i agree :D
ever heard him sing that song: "dard jab had se guzar jaataa hai "
(something like that and it goes "to gaa lete haiN" )
i can't STAND it!
Amit
Ritu
> Amit Malhotra wrote:
> >
> And with Amit Kumar...the above song(rooth na jana tumse kahu to) is by
>
> >No no no Neha ji, that song is definitely sung by Kumar Sanu. As a
> >matter of fact, AK never sung any songs for 1942, A Love Story and we
> >had asked him this question also (here is a quote from that
> >interview):
> >
> >
>
> oops...you _are_ right..it is Kumar Sanu..what was I thinking...In my
> head I
> still hear Amit Kumar singing this song:). weird...
Maybe that was the effect of RDB. I think he extracted a good
performance out of the normally high-pitched Kavita Krishnamurthy in
'Pyar hua chupke se' (One more to add to my list of post 90s
favourites)
> Sorry Ritu, I will make up for this by actually doing some QA for your
> SDBurman site:)
> and I wont make errors there:)
Neki aur poochh poochh :). Please please. An RMIMer is the best QA one
can get for any project :) . Though the surprising part is that I got
more QA from SKS than I did here!
Cheers
Ritu
P.S Nani... before you point out, I do remember that we have to change
the name of the section 'Anthology'
Sydney Assbasket
>
>It is said that there was a lot of misunderstanding between Javed
>Akhtar (lyricist) and director the film. Javed wanted to use some
>other term (aasamaanii?), but director insisted that he wants only
>"strawberry" word. Javed complied.
>
>But the song came out such an arbitrary song, that javed had become
>very angry that he had given in. It is said that director (Rajiv
>Menon) had to apologise to Javed to return in his good books.
>
The title of the original Tamil version is "Strawberry Kanney," which means the
same thing as the Hindi title.
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negative responses from people like Ritu and Amit, I enjoyed reading
all the opinions. Unfortunately, I still didn't get a clear answer on
*where* exactly K. Sanu is and why he isn't singing as much.....
Satish Kalra
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....snipped....
. Unfortunately, I still didn't get a clear answer on
> *where* exactly K. Sanu is and why he isn't singing as much.....
The film industry is the only industry where true talent prevails, most of
the time. :-)
Vijay Kumar K
> Amit Malhotra wrote:
>
> >> Kumar Sanu was 'no. 1' in the 80's? I don't think so. Although he has
> >>sung some good/ok songs here and there in the 80's, his fame really rose
> >>after 'Aashiqui' (1990), didn't it?
> >
> > I think so too, Aashiqi was one of his first major movies, sadly,
> > that's when everybody noticed him..
>
> I think RMIM is going to lynch me when I say this, but I don't
> think he was as bad in Aashiqui as he became later. Three songs
> by Sanu that I (do not seek out specifically to listen, but) do
> not immediately turn off if they happen to be playing around me
> are:
>
> . ab tere bin jii le.nge ham -- Aashiqui [good tune]
> . aa.Nkho.n me.n kyaa, is dil se puuchho zaraa -- Khamoshi [nice rhythm]
> . jab koI baat biga.D jaaye -- Jurm [well sung]
>
>
I am surprised no one mentioned the Pardes song- do dil mil rahe hain magar
chupke chupke. That is one song I can bear hearing multiple times. Aashiqui
wasn't entirely bad. There is one song - ik hasii.n nigaah kaa from Maya
Memsahab that he has completely mutilated by his pronunciation (why could
Gulzar, Ketan Mehta & Hridaynath not correct him?), but his singing is not
too atrocious.
As I recall, Kumar Sanu was *known* even before Aashiqi. He was known as a
Kishore clone. Somehow, I recall one evening in late 1987 walking down
Park street in Cal. and seeing a restaurant announcing Kumar Sanu live,
with the footnote noting his being a Kishore Kumar clone.
That is what he used to do before he hit big time - make a half-decent living
singing in restaurant's and orchestras in Cal imitating Kishore. And when he
wasn't imitating Kishore, he was not such a good singer, after all.
As for Kishore imitations, I used to find Aniruddh much better in Cal. Ani
made his living as a professional student :-) doing all kinds of courses in
Jadavpur Univ., IIRC, with a BE thrown in somewhere. He had a horrible stammer
in speaking, but when he opened his mouth to sing, he was pure gold. He not
only sounded very believable when singing Kishore's songs, he actually had an
amazing repertoire of Kishore songs. RMIM knows Ani only tangentially via the
Karaoke CDs he makes for Ramesh Hariharan and his quizzes that used to appear
in the Illustrated Weekly and now in other magazines and on the web.
Vijay