Hindi Songs from Bengali music
Shyamal Pain
have listened to Bengali Adhunik (contemporary) songs , this may
be relevant. I am going to list some Bengali songs whose tune was
later given to Hindi film songs.
Jaye to Jaye kahan ( Talat, SD Burman) : He Khoniker Atithi ( Tagore song)
Mithe bol bole bole payaliya(Bhupindar, RD Burman) :
Modhu Brindabone dole radha ( SD Burman, SD Burman)
Chhu kar mere man ko (Kishore, RD Burman) : Tomar holo shuru ( Tagore song)
Meri bhigi bhigi si palko me (Kishore, RD Burman) :
Mone pode Ruby Roy ( RD Burman, RD Burman)
Tum bekhudi me mujhko (Rafi, SDB) : Ghum bhulechhi nijhum(SDB,SDB)
Na jao Sayia churake bayia (Gita Dutt, Hemant) :
Oliro katha shune bokul hasey ( Hemanta, Hemanta)
O sajna, barkha bahar ayi ( Lata, Salil) :
Na jeyona , rajani akhono baki( Lata, Salil)
Tere mere milan ki yeh raina( Kishore-Lata, SDBurman) :
Jodi tare nai chini go seki ( Tagore song)
Incidentally, Lata and Asha were the two top female singers of Bengali
songs (along with Sandhya Mukherjee and Arati Mukherjee) in 60s and
70s. While Lata almost exclusively sang Salil's compositions, Asha sang
for RD Burman.
Srinivas Ganti
>"Shyamal Pain" wrote:
> I am going to list some Bengali songs whose tune was
> later given to Hindi film songs.
>This post may not be interesting to many readers. But those who
>have listened to Bengali Adhunik (contemporary) songs , this may
>be relevant. I am going to list some Bengali songs whose tune was
>later given to Hindi film songs.
Actually one can classify these Bengali songs into 2 categories.
Originally composed by MD's
and
Adapted from Robindro sangeet/Nazrul Geeti
Two SDB compositions both sung by himself in Bengali
1)Bengali original:
baanshii shune aar kaaj naii shede Daaka kiyaa baanshii
shede din dukure chure kore rotire to kothanoi Daaka kiyaa baanshii
nii.nd churaa_e,chai.n churaa_e,Daaka Daale terii bansii(Anurag,Lata)
2)Bengali(not sure which came first)
oo~ prem jamunae
prem jamunae hoito keu Dheu dilo Dheu dilo re
akuul hiyaa du kuul bujhi bhanglo re
oo~ pyaar banake
pyaar banake mujhape koii chaa gayaa,chaa gayaa re(Vidya,Lalita Devulkar)
Two Hemant Compositons:
1)ai raat tomar amar(diip jaley jaay,Hemant)
tum pukarlo(Khamoshi,Hemant) & ye nayan dare dare(Kohra,Hemant)
2)emon bandhu aar ke achhe(diip jaley jaay,Mannadey)
dost kahan koi tum saa(Khamoshi,Hemant)
Two Salil compositons:
1)duronto ghurnir ae legeche paak
ae duniyaa ghore bon-bon-bon-bon
chonDe-chonDe koto rong bodlaay rong bodlaay..
(Hemant & Lata)
dil se dil ki Dor baa.ndhi
chori chori jaane ham tum tum ham sa.ng sa.ng chale
aaj kahaa.N aaj kahaa.N
(Chaaya,Mukesh & Lata)
2)amay prashna kare neel dhrub taaraa(Hemant)
kahii.n duur jab dil Dhal jaae(Anand,Mukesh)
There are many more.
SG.
Shyamal Pain
Srinivas Ganti <gant...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9g8rga$7teke$1...@ID-75004.news.dfncis.de...
>
>
> Two SDB compositions both sung by himself in Bengali
>
> 1)Bengali original:
> baanshii shune aar kaaj naii shede Daaka kiyaa baanshii
> shede din dukure chure kore rotire to kothanoi Daaka kiyaa baanshii
>
> nii.nd churaa_e,chai.n churaa_e,Daaka Daale terii bansii(Anurag,Lata)
>
>
> 2)Bengali(not sure which came first)
> oo~ prem jamunae
> prem jamunae hoito keu Dheu dilo Dheu dilo re
> akuul hiyaa du kuul bujhi bhanglo re
>
> oo~ pyaar banake
> pyaar banake mujhape koii chaa gayaa,chaa gayaa re(Vidya,Lalita Devulkar)
I heard the Bengali song ; not the Hindi one.
>
> Two Hemant Compositons:
>
> 1)ai raat tomar amar(diip jaley jaay,Hemant)
> tum pukarlo(Khamoshi,Hemant) & ye nayan dare dare(Kohra,Hemant)
>
> 2)emon bandhu aar ke achhe(diip jaley jaay,Mannadey)
> dost kahan koi tum saa(Khamoshi,Hemant)
>
> Two Salil compositons:
>
> 1)duronto ghurnir ae legeche paak
> ae duniyaa ghore bon-bon-bon-bon
> chonDe-chonDe koto rong bodlaay rong bodlaay..
> (Hemant & Lata)
>
> dil se dil ki Dor baa.ndhi
> chori chori jaane ham tum tum ham sa.ng sa.ng chale
> aaj kahaa.N aaj kahaa.N
> (Chaaya,Mukesh & Lata)
Again, I did not know that this tune was used in Hindi song.
>
> 2)amay prashna kare neel dhrub taaraa(Hemant)
>
> kahii.n duur jab dil Dhal jaae(Anand,Mukesh)
>
> There are many more.
>
> SG.
Bappi Lahiri used the following Bengali folk song :
De de pyar de pyar de pyar de re de de pyar de :
Allah Myagh de , pani de , saya de re allah myagh de ( Abbasuddin)
AKumar
wondered about a Kavita/Shanu duet
"Rim Jhim Rim Jhim"
from "Love Story 1942"
is based on some bengali song or Bengali music?
Abhay
"Shyamal Pain" <spai...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:zPQV6.80213$4f7.6...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
SKalra902
...snipped...
>
>2)Bengali(not sure which came first)
>oo~ prem jamunae
>prem jamunae hoito keu Dheu dilo Dheu dilo re
>akuul hiyaa du kuul bujhi bhanglo re
>
>oo~ pyaar banake
>pyaar banake mujhape koii chaa gayaa,chaa gayaa re(Vidya,Lalita Devulkar)
>
Isn't that song by Suriayya!
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Sathya
understanding the lyrics) and enjoyed them a lot. There are a whole
lot of Salil compositions that are present in both languages and a few
of Hemanta too. (Forgive the Bengali words - its what I can reproduce
after hearing)
Yodi kichua mare shudao (Shyamal Mitra:Salil)
Dil tadpe tadpaye (Rafi)
Ae monmor jani na kotha de (??)
Yeh mere andhere ujale na hote (Talat / Lata)
Ontho behhethe ondhora (Manavendu ..)
Sapnon me mere tum yaad aaye (Mukesh)
Na mon lage na (Lata)
Na jiya lage na (Lata)
Amar proshno kore neer (Hemant)
Kahin door jab din (Mukesh)
..... what are the words???? .. (Shyamal Mitra)
Aha rhimjhim ke yeh pyare (Talat/Lata)
Ja jare ja pakhi (Shyamal Mitra)
Door kahin abadi se (Mukesh / Lata)
..
and Hemant :
O nodi re (Hemant)
O beqarar dil (Lata)
Ai raat tumaar amar (Hemant)
Yeh nayan dare dare(Hemant)
(cant recall words - Hemant)
Chup gaya koi re (Lata)
Ami door hotai tumarai dekhe chi (Hemant)
Meri baat rahi mere man me (Asha)
Sathya
"Shyamal Pain" <spai...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<zPQV6.80213$4f7.6...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
Srinivas Ganti
> >2)Bengali(not sure which came first)
> >oo~ prem jamunae
> >prem jamunae hoito keu Dheu dilo Dheu dilo re
> >akuul hiyaa du kuul bujhi bhanglo re
> >
> >oo~ pyaar banake
> >pyaar banake mujhape koii chaa gayaa,chaa gayaa re
>Satish Kalra wrote
>
> Isn't that song by Suriayya!
Satish Ji,
It is by Lalita D.I am replying after checking the Geet Kosh.
Srinivas.
P Dasgupta
< snipped>
>oo~ pyaar banake
> >pyaar banake mujhape koii chaa gayaa,chaa gayaa re(Vidya,Lalita Devulkar)
> >
>
> Isn't that song by Suriayya!
No Satishji, it is indeed sung by Lalita Deoolkar, and picturized
on Cuckoo. I'm aware of the movie(DVD) version only.
-Prithviraj
>
>
> Happy listenings.
>
> Satish Kalra
P Dasgupta
the compositions of the popular trio from Bengal who
migrated to Bombay in the 40's/50's, and whose cross-language
compositions have been discussed before(and therefore obtainable
from the RMIM archives...no harm in discussin again tho'),
I'm listing some of the not-so-oft heard inspirations/
adaptations/cross-language songs in Hindi-Bengali. I am
also avoiding tagore songs that have been adapted in
Hindi 'cos that article is there on Satish Subramainam's
RMIM article archive. Neither am I listing any songs
whose MD's are the same in both languages. All Bengali
songs are from the 50s.
1)Aayega aanewala..i) shono go priyotamo(Dhananjay
Bhattarchyaa/Debu Chatterjee) ii) phire aay pathbhola
(Anjali Debi?/?)
2)Gore gore banke chhore(Lata-Shamshad/CR)- shono shono
kathati shono(Dhananjay Bhattarchyaa/Debu Chatterjee)
3)Ae bad-e-saba ahista chal(Hemant/Anarkali/CR) - shukno
shakhar pata jhore jaay(Hemant/non-film/Anupam Ghatak)
4)Tum kya jaano(Lata/Shin sinaki boobla boo/CR) - Tumi
to jaano naa(Hemant/Surjotoron/Hemant)
5)Phulwa bandh mehke(Geeta&Suman/Hum bhi insaan hai?/Hemant)
-Meghla bhanga rod uthechhe(Pratima Banerjee/non-film/Anal
Chatterjee)
6)Aye dil hai mushkil(Rafi&Geeta/CID/OPN) - Hetha mil
nei ek til chor kore hari naam, agey dekho picchey
dekho kolkata er naam(Aparesh lahiri/forgot the film's name...
an Uttam-Sabitri starrer from 1956)/Aparesh Lahiri)...
both of course inspried by my darling clementine..and both
being superior to clementine, IMO.
All the Hindi songs, except #3 precede the Bengali version
in release-time. So these are more of a Bengali songs from
Hindi music...and that is also true for some of the songs
that Srinivas mentions.
After, Hemant-Salil and SDB/RDB the next MD who has
most cross-language songs in Bengali, IMO is
Hridaynath Mangeshkar, but the cross there is
Marathi-Bengali. I intend to list some of his
cross language songs soon.
-Prithviraj
Dinesh Krishnajois
> have listened to Bengali Adhunik (contemporary) songs , this may
> be relevant. I am going to list some Bengali songs whose tune was
> later given to Hindi film songs.
Its not just Hindi that used some Bengali tunes. Salil Chaudhary has
used some tunes in Kannada (very likely), Malyalam etc. Also the
usage has not been just
Bengali-> other_languages but also other_languages->Bengali. A few
instances are listed below
NOTE: The first line indicates the original language the music/lyrics
was used in.
1.
mono chilo nA bondhU (Bengali) (Music: SD Burman, Singer: SD Burman)
jAne kya tUne kahI (Hindi) (Music: SD Burman, Singer: Geeta Dutt)
2.
jA rE jA rE ud jA re pAkhi (Bengali) (MD: Salil Chaudhary (?), Singer:
Lata)
jA rE jA rE ud jA re panchI(Hindi) (MD: Salil Chaudhary, Singer: Lata)
3.
o bAshI, bAshI keno gAye (Bengali) (MD: Salil, Singer: Lata)
o bA.nsI, bA.nshi kyon gAye (Hindi) (MD: Salil, Singer: Lata)
Note that in 2&3 above, even lyrics were translated word-to-word.
4.
kE jAbe Aye (Bengali) (MD: Salil, Singer: Lata)
O mana tingazh pakshI (Malayalam) (MD: Salil, Singer: P.Suseela)
5.
mAjha sAranga (Marathi) (MD: Hridaynath Mangeshkar, Singer: Lata)
ogo ma gongA (Bengali) (MD: Hridaynath Mangeshkar, Singer: Lata)
6.
Gore gore banke chhore (Hindi) (MD: C.Ramachandra, Singer:
Lata/Shamshad)
shono shono kathati shono (Bengali) (MD: Debu Chatterjee, Singer:
Dhananjay Bhattarchyaa )
ayyA sAmi (Tamil) (MD: ?, Singer: M.L.Vasanthakumari)
I have a doubt re. the following song. Does it have Bengali roots?
6.
madhubhAri ye hawAye.n (Hindi) (MD: Salil, Singer: Lata)
harusha doorada mEru (Kannada) (MD: Salil, Singer: P.Suseela)
{one of my most favorite songs. Both the singers have done a superb
job. Is the Hindi version available commercially? }
More Later.
Regards,
- Dinesh Krishnajois.
Balaji A.S. Murthy
>> This post may not be interesting to many readers. But those who
>> have listened to Bengali Adhunik (contemporary) songs , this may
>> be relevant. I am going to list some Bengali songs whose tune was
>> later given to Hindi film songs.
>
>Its not just Hindi that used some Bengali tunes. Salil Chaudhary has
>used some tunes in Kannada (very likely), Malyalam etc. Also the
>usage has not been just
>Bengali-> other_languages but also other_languages->Bengali. A few
>instances are listed below
>
>
>6.
>madhubhAri ye hawAye.n (Hindi) (MD: Salil, Singer: Lata)
>harusha doorada mEru (Kannada) (MD: Salil, Singer: P.Suseela)
>{one of my most favorite songs. Both the singers have done a superb
>job. Is the Hindi version available commercially? }
>
>More Later.
>
>Regards,
>
>- Dinesh Krishnajois.
The definitive source for Salil tunes is the Salil site by Gautam Chowdhury. It
contains a matrix for pretty much every song composed by Salil in each
language.
According to the same site the following versions exist for
madbhari ye hawAyen(anokha daan - '71)/harusha doorada mEru (samshayaphala - '71)
Aar kichhu naai money - '80 - Sabita Chowdhury
Eni varu (Devadasi) - '80 - Sabita Chowdhury
so the answer is no :)
Don't know of a commercial release of the Hindi version. Kannada version of
course is readily availble. I am a little partial to the Kannada version here,
though Lata has done a great job too. I haven't heard the Bengali and Malayalam
versions.
Of course the other song in Samshayaphala - dooradinda bandanta (L.R.Eswari)
is *so* superior to the Hindi "original" naam mera nimmo (Lata, Manna et al),
it makes one think as to what prompted Salil to use Lata there, making the
song absolutely lifeless!!!
A related query, Dinesh. Do you know the details of the Kannada version of the
Minoo ('77) song
kaali re, kaali re tu to kaali kaali re
I have a vague recollection this is also sung by Antara, as in the Hindi version.
A rare case where Gautam's site doesn't list the Kannada version.
- Balaji
Shyamal Pain
Sathya <sathyana...@infy.com> wrote in message
news:a8ca9910.01061...@posting.google.com...
> Though nt a Bengali, I have heard a bit of Bengali music (without
> understanding the lyrics) and enjoyed them a lot. There are a whole
> lot of Salil compositions that are present in both languages and a few
> of Hemanta too. (Forgive the Bengali words - its what I can reproduce
> after hearing)
>
> Yodi kichua mare shudao (Shyamal Mitra:Salil)
> Dil tadpe tadpaye (Rafi)
> Ae monmor jani na kotha de (??)
> Yeh mere andhere ujale na hote (Talat / Lata)
> Ontho behhethe ondhora (Manavendu ..)
> Sapnon me mere tum yaad aaye (Mukesh)
> Na mon lage na (Lata)
> Na jiya lage na (Lata)
> Amar proshno kore neer (Hemant)
> Kahin door jab din (Mukesh)
> ..... what are the words???? .. (Shyamal Mitra)
Aha oi anka banka je path jai sudure(Shyamal Mitra/ Salil)
> Aha rhimjhim ke yeh pyare (Talat/Lata)
> Ja jare ja pakhi (Shyamal Mitra)
> Door kahin abadi se (Mukesh / Lata)
> ..
>
> and Hemant :
> O nodi re (Hemant)
> O beqarar dil (Lata)
> Ai raat tumaar amar (Hemant)
> Yeh nayan dare dare(Hemant)
> (cant recall words - Hemant)
O banshi te dake re ( Hemanta)
> Chup gaya koi re (Lata)
> Ami door hotai tumarai dekhe chi (Hemant)
> Meri baat rahi mere man me (Asha)
>
>
> Sathya
>
>
.
Afzal A. Khan
> Satish Kalra
Yes, it is sung by Suraiyya. As I recall the song, it is
based on Bhairavi.
Afzal
Gautam Choudhury
You are right about me not mentioning the kannada version of the song 'O
kali re kali re'. Well spotted !
Actually I forgot and that may not be the only one. People like you are
helping me to correct my website on a regular basis.
The kannada version of 'kali re kali re' is the song 'on ujaala sarala' from
the film 'Onde rupa eraduguna' sung by Mohan and S. Janaki.
I have corrected the link now.
Thanks.
"Balaji A.S. Murthy" <bmu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9gatos$2...@news.or.intel.com...
Gautam Choudhury
Often he would compose a Malayalam song with new arrangements from one of
his bengali compositions or the other way round or even in Oriya language !.
Often he would compose a melody and use it in various forms (ex: baag mei.n
kali khili) , background music or title music and then you would hear it in
a film as a song. To get an idea go to http//:come.to/salil and go through
the cross links of songs !
Gautam
"Dinesh Krishnajois" <dkjo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:421f6a4f.01061...@posting.google.com...
Arun Sampath
Someone help me out here. Both the songs start with
pa pa ma ga re sa something something
da da pa ma ga re something something
(Lata/Bengali )
I don't remember who has sung the kannada version of it. I vaguely remember
it to be a duet but could be wrong. Does anyone know which one came first?
A
Shyamal Pain
Arun Sampath <as...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9ge17e$9...@nntpa.cb.lucent.com...
Is it this one ?
Pa ma ga re sa tar chokher jotil bhasha
dha pa ma ga re tarey porey bojhar asha ( Lata,Salil)
According to the Salil site on internet, this was recorded in 1971.
Sudhir
=====================================
I have quite a number of Bengali songs, listed at this post.
I am looking for THREE songs, which I don't have. Can someone
please give information, as to : Which TAPE or CD TITLE or
SINGER / ARTIST'S COMPILATION, I can find these songs:
1 Bengali: O Re Grahabasi Kho Dawar
Tagore Composition
Adopted in Hindi: Rahi Matwale, Tu Chhed Ik Baar / Talat +
Suraiya, Film: Waris / Anil Biswas
2 Bengali: He Khoniker Atithi
Tagore Composition
Adopted in Hindi (not sure, since I haven't heard this song,
but it was listed at this post, in the first
message)
Jayen To Jayen ahan / Talat or Lata (two
versions), Film: Taxi Driver / S D Burman
Also need confirmation that the Bengali song is a Tagore Composition
3 Jodi Tare Chini Go Seki
Tagore Composition
Adopted in Hindi: Tere Mere Milan Ki Yeh Raina / Kishore + Lata
Fim: Abhimaan / S D Burman
Need Confirmation that this is a Tagore Composition. I have
this song in Bengali, but don't remember the name of the singer
Thanks
Sudhir
Gautam Choudhury
mentioned.. The kannada version is in the film 'Onde rupa Eraduguna' sung by
S.P Balasubramaniam and P. Susheela. They also sang
a wonderful kannada version ('Jila jila nandu') of the bengali song 'Jhilmil
jhilmil opaarero monjil' in the same film. This haunting bengali song with
beautiful harmony was sung by Sabita Chowdhury and chorus.
Music director is of course Salil Chowdhury.
Please check http://come.to/salil
"Arun Sampath" <as...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9ge17e$9...@nntpa.cb.lucent.com...
P Dasgupta
> 'Pa ma ga re sa' in bengali was sung by Lata in 1971
I have always been surpised and amazed by the
genius of Salil Chowdhury, and the brilliance
with which he Indianized western compositions
such as Mozart's Symphony #40(ok..everybody knows
which Hindi song this is:), Beethoven's Fur
Elise in the title music for Chhaya and the signature
tune of Limelight in Rafi's "zindagi hai kya
sun meri jaan, pyaar bhara dlil mitthi zubaan"
from Maya and so on. And I have always wondered whether
the song under discussion here; namely "pa ma
ga re sa" has been inspired by the opening
notes of the 'Come September' theme which also
goes "pa ma ga re sa"...any ideas/comments...
Gautamda, anyone?
-Prithviraj
Gautam Choudhury
four notes of 'come september' then I guess you can say that they are the
same. I, however, feel that the song 'come september' is quite different. To
start with listen to the structure of Pa ma ga re sa - the next line starts
with the lyric 'taar chokher...' and the word 'taar' starts with 'sa'. So,
the note 'sa' repeats. 'Come september' on the other hand starts the melody
like this: pa-ma ga-re - sa ga pa sa - pa - ma pa sa pa ma pa ..... Besides
the song stays in the minor key. Pa ma ga re sa on the other hand starts on
a minor key and then immediately switches to major key on the second line
thereby creating a wonderful contrast (typical Salil). The rest of the song
switches between the minor and the major chords. Great stuff...
I also feel that Salil was more influenced by the western and Indian
classical structure than a '60s pop-song which musically didn't offer
anything new. So, for him to copy the first four notes seems rather far
fetched to me.
I guess one can keep arguing over such things until cows come home.
Gautam
"P Dasgupta" <prith...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fc0bc0a7.0106...@posting.google.com...
Shyamal Pain
Gautam Choudhury <gau...@cybercomm.nl> wrote in message
news:vq2X6.1$9q.10...@bigmama.cybercomm.nl...
> Well, if you really compare the first 4 notes of Pa ma ga re and the
first
> four notes of 'come september' then I guess you can say that they are the
> same. I, however, feel that the song 'come september' is quite different.
To
> start with listen to the structure of Pa ma ga re sa - the next line
starts
> with the lyric 'taar chokher...' and the word 'taar' starts with 'sa'. So,
> the note 'sa' repeats. 'Come september' on the other hand starts the
melody
I vaguely remember an interview of Salil where he said that he came up with
the lyric and tune of this song while sipping coffee in a coffee shop.
Dinesh Krishnajois
> Minoo ('77) song
>
> kaali re, kaali re tu to kaali kaali re
>
> I have a vague recollection this is also sung by Antara, as in the Hindi version.
> A rare case where Gautam's site doesn't list the Kannada version.
Sorry for the delay, Balaji. I was not on the net for the past three
days. Looks like Gautam has already answered your question :)
Regards,
- Dinesh.
>
> - Balaji
Dinesh Krishnajois
> "Shyamal Pain" <spai...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<zPQV6.80213$4f7.6...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> > This post may not be interesting to many readers. But those who
> > have listened to Bengali Adhunik (contemporary) songs , this may
> > be relevant. I am going to list some Bengali songs whose tune was
> > later given to Hindi film songs.
>
> Its not just Hindi that used some Bengali tunes. Salil Chaudhary has
> used some tunes in Kannada (very likely), Malyalam etc. Also the
> usage has not been just
> Bengali-> other_languages but also other_languages->Bengali. A few
> instances are listed below
>
> NOTE: The first line indicates the original language the music/lyrics
> was used in.
>
I unearthed a few more from my meager collection.
1.
nijumA shandhyai (Bengali) (Singer: Lata, Film: moNihAr, Lyrics: Pulak
Banerjee, Music: Hemant Kumar)
maguve nannA ogata kELu (Kannada) (Singer: P.Suseela (?) Film:
chiranjeevI, Lyrics: ?, Music: ?)
{According to Lata, (Bengali version of) this was a big hit and one of
the very few Bengali songs she has recorded with Hemant Kumar)
2.
kEno kichu kothA bolo nA (Bengali)(Singer: Lata, Music: Salil
Chaudhary)
nIyu vithavayO (Malyalam) (Singer: P.Suseela, Film: rAsalIlA, Lyrics:
Vaylar (Ravi), Music: Salil Chaudhary)
{This is already mentioned on Gautam's (splendid!) site on Salil }
3.
mendi chA pANyAvar (Marathi) (Singer: Lata, Music: Hridaynath
Mangeshkar)
E din to jAbe nA (Bengali) (Singer: Lata, Music: Hridaynath
Mangeshkar)
4.
mhi dolkAr, dolkAr.. (Marathi) (Singer: Lata (and chorus?), Music:
Hridaynath Mangeshkar)
de dol, dol, dol (Bengali) (Singers: Lata, Hemant and chorus Music:
Hridaynath Mangeshkar)
5.
tini sAnjha sakhE miLyAla (Marathi) (Singer: Lata, Music: Hridaynath
Mangeshkar)
doorE AkAsh shAmiyAna (Bengali) (Singer: Lata, Music: Hridaynath
Mangeshkar)
6.
bAdol kAlo ghirlogO (Bengali) (Singer: Lata, Music: Hridaynath
Mangeshkar)
The original verison of this song is in Marathi and is in the same
release as 4. I am not sure about the lyrics.
Regards,
- Dinesh Krishnajois.
Sanjeev Kumar
tune:
Aaj Kal mein dhal gaya (Hindi/Rafi)
Sanje kempu moodithu (Kannada/P.Susheela)
Narendra Joshi
Please visit this site.
http://members.nbci.com/debu/sachin.htm
It's about SDB, and has a list of SDB's Bengali songs, (which you can 'click and
play' if you have real audio). You can easily spot the corresponding Hindi songs
at least for some of them.
- Narendra
"Shyamal Pain" <spai...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<zPQV6.80213$4f7.6...@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
P Dasgupta
> Well, if you really compare the first 4 notes of Pa ma ga re and the first
> four notes of 'come september' then I guess you can say that they are the
> same. I, however, feel that the song 'come september' is quite different. To
> start with listen to the structure of Pa ma ga re sa - the next line starts
> with the lyric 'taar chokher...' and the word 'taar' starts with 'sa'. So,
> the note 'sa' repeats. 'Come september' on the other hand starts the melody
> like this: pa-ma ga-re - sa ga pa sa - pa - ma pa sa pa ma pa ..... Besides
> the song stays in the minor key. Pa ma ga re sa on the other hand starts on
> a minor key and then immediately switches to major key on the second line
> thereby creating a wonderful contrast (typical Salil). The rest of the song
> switches between the minor and the major chords. Great stuff...
Thanks for the analysis of the song.
Well, I just wanted to know whether Salil had been inspired by the
_first_five_notes_ of 'Come September' (and not the whole song) in
the _opening_five_notes_ for this Bengali song as both the openings
are identical. And from your reply it seems that might not have been.
> I also feel that Salil was more influenced by the western and Indian
> classical structure than a '60s pop-song which musically didn't offer
> anything new. So, for him to copy the first four notes seems rather far
> fetched to me.
But Salil Chowdhury has indeed been influenced by contemporary pieces;
the theme from the movie "Limelight" and the pop intrumental
"Too much Tequila" both in the Hindi movie 'Maya' are examples.
Anyways, I would abhor the use of the word "copy" in context of
a genius of the stature of Salil Chowdhury.
> I guess one can keep arguing over such things until cows come home.
Okay, but if one does not analyze songs or clarify doubts, then
the purpose of having RMIM is defeated. After all, undisputed
encomium is as boring as chewing the cud.:)
-Prithviraj
Shyamal Pain
> >
> > NOTE: The first line indicates the original language the music/lyrics
> > was used in.
> >
>
> I unearthed a few more from my meager collection.
>
> 1.
> nijumA shandhyai (Bengali) (Singer: Lata, Film: moNihAr, Lyrics: Pulak
> Banerjee, Music: Hemant Kumar)
> maguve nannA ogata kELu (Kannada) (Singer: P.Suseela (?) Film:
> chiranjeevI, Lyrics: ?, Music: ?)
> {According to Lata, (Bengali version of) this was a big hit and one of
> the very few Bengali songs she has recorded with Hemant Kumar)
I was under the impression that Lata sang quite a few Hemanta compositions
for Bengali films. She sang couple of other songs in Monihaar.
Ke janogo dekechhe amay : was a great song.
Jodio Rajani pohalo tobuo ( Lata, Film: Baghini , Music : Hemanta )
There must be more. Hemanta scored for so many Bengali films.
>
> - Dinesh Krishnajois.
Surajit A. Bose
dkjo...@yahoo.com (Dinesh Krishnajois) wrote:
>
> 6.
> bAdol kAlo ghirlogO (Bengali) (Singer: Lata, Music: Hridaynath
> Mangeshkar)
> The original verison of this song is in Marathi and is in the same
> release as 4. I am not sure about the lyrics.
>
vaadaL vaara suTala ga, vaaryaana tuufaan uThala ga (Lata, Hridaynath,
Shanta Shelke)
There's also a Bengali version of "jiivalagaa, raahile re duur ghar
maajhe" (Asha, Hridaynath, Shanta Shelke); it goes "jiivalagaa gaa_ichhe
je shuur buujhii naa re" or something to that effect. I believe the
Bengali lyrics are by Salil Chaudhury.
-s
Shyamal Pain
> vaadaL vaara suTala ga, vaaryaana tuufaan uThala ga (Lata, Hridaynath,
> Shanta Shelke)
>
> There's also a Bengali version of "jiivalagaa, raahile re duur ghar
> maajhe" (Asha, Hridaynath, Shanta Shelke); it goes "jiivalagaa gaa_ichhe
> je shuur buujhii naa re" or something to that effect. I believe the
I think it goes like " Jibano Gaan gahe ke go sur bujhina je " . It is one
of
Asha's great bengali songs.
dipns...@gmail.com
> This post may not be interesting to many readers. But those who
> have listened to Bengali Adhunik (contemporary) songs , this may
> be relevant. I am going to list some Bengali songs whose tune was
> later given to Hindi film songs.
>
> Jaye to Jaye kahan ( Talat, SD Burman) : He Khoniker Atithi ( Tagore song)
> Mithe bol bole bole payaliya(Bhupindar, RD Burman) :
> Modhu Brindabone dole radha ( SD Burman, SD Burman)
> Chhu kar mere man ko (Kishore, RD Burman) : Tomar holo shuru ( Tagore song)
> Meri bhigi bhigi si palko me (Kishore, RD Burman) :
> Mone pode Ruby Roy ( RD Burman, RD Burman)
> Tum bekhudi me mujhko (Rafi, SDB) : Ghum bhulechhi nijhum(SDB,SDB)
> Na jao Sayia churake bayia (Gita Dutt, Hemant) :
> Oliro katha shune bokul hasey ( Hemanta, Hemanta)
> O sajna, barkha bahar ayi ( Lata, Salil) :
> Na jeyona , rajani akhono baki( Lata, Salil)
> Tere mere milan ki yeh raina( Kishore-Lata, SDBurman) :
> Jodi tare nai chini go seki ( Tagore song)
>
> Incidentally, Lata and Asha were the two top female singers of Bengali
> songs (along with Sandhya Mukherjee and Arati Mukherjee) in 60s and
> 70s. While Lata almost exclusively sang Salil's compositions, Asha sang
> for RD Burman.
1. "Jhan jhan manzira baaje" of SBD was used as Jhan Jhan Payal Baje in the film Buzdil
2."Shyamal Barani ogo Kanya of Salil Chowdhury was used as "Aankhon Mein Masti Sharab Ki" in the film Chhaya
dipns...@gmail.com
mail2...@gmail.com
song : seto elona : by kishor kumar
but i heard somewhere the hindi verson of this song : kahe akhiyan kholena "
google give me : yeh jindegi
but i cannot find : kahe akhiya kholena
quantu...@gmail.com
anand...@gmail.com
debabrata...@gmail.com
debabrata...@gmail.com
acharyasub...@gmail.com
Saswata Bhattacharya
> Can you please mention the first line of this song, pa ma ga re sa in Hindi version.....
GANESH R Iyer
> In the film Naukri ( 1954 ) Salil Chowdhury used the song " Chota sa ghar hoga badol o ki chaon main" the tune of the son was later used in the bengali basic song " Ek je chilo raja Habuchandra tahar naam" sang by his daughter Antara