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bheem

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Jul 13, 2004, 5:50:29 PM7/13/04
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In the song Bindiya Chamkegi, there are the following lines

mai.n kahaa.N le jaauu.N apane lau.ng kaa lashkaaraa
is lashkaare se aake dvaare se -2
chal mu.Dadiiye te muD jaae
bi.ndiyaa chamakegii ...

What does lashkaaraa mean?

Also in the same song

gaDDii Turadiiye te Tur jaae

What does the above line mean?
Are these Punjabi words?

Thanks in advance.

V Kodak

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Jul 14, 2004, 4:49:54 AM7/14/04
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Lashkar means "military camp" or 'chhavni'. (There is a suburb of Gwalior,
called Lashkar, probably because Mughal armies used it as a camp ground...)

Lashkaara may mean the one who prepares lashkar.

Anand Bakshi obviously was using a lot of poetic license.

He has often used Punjabi words like 'tur'.

VK

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V S Rawat

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Jul 14, 2004, 9:03:31 AM7/14/04
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V Kodak wrote:

> Lashkar means "military camp" or 'chhavni'. (There is a
> suburb of Gwalior, called Lashkar, probably because
> Mughal armies used it as a camp ground...)
>
> Lashkaara may mean the one who prepares lashkar.
>
> Anand Bakshi obviously was using a lot of poetic license.
>
>
>
> He has often used Punjabi words like 'tur'.
>
> VK
>
> "bheem" <bhe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6a91e77f.04071...@posting.google.com...
>
>> In the song Bindiya Chamkegi, there are the following
>> lines
>>
>> mai.n kahaa.N le jaauu.N apane lau.ng kaa lashkaaraa is
>> lashkaare se aake dvaare se -2 chal mu.Dadiiye te muD
>> jaae bi.ndiyaa chamakegii ...
>>
>> What does lashkaaraa mean?

Kodak saab doesn't know that a feminine lashakara can be as
powerful as a mughal or gwalior lashkar.

lashkaraa could be pendant, unless it is some adjective like
brightness or shine.

here, long (ok lau.ng) probably means naak kii kiil, an
ornament ladies wear on their pierced nose, mostly at left
side in north india.

It is of silver or gold, and it has some shining precious
stone, like diamond, in it. It shines like diamonds shine.

that shine of the diamond might be catching the attention of
hero.

In the movie, Rajesh Khanna was studying when Mumu comes to
tantalize him. The song is at the very start of the film.

it (lau.ng) could also mean kaan kii kiil, a type of bundaa
or baalii. The shape of these naak/ kaan kii kiil is exactly
like a lau.ng that is eaten.

>> chal mu.Dadiiye te muD jaae

in the above line, it is chann, meaning probably groom

she is saying that if the groom returns from her door even
after bringing the marital procession (baaraat) so what.

>> Also in the same song
>>
>> gaDDii Turadiiye te Tur jaae

I think that is jaDDii

jo.Dii (pair) Tur diiye (gets broken) te Tur jaaye (so what)

>> What does the above line mean? Are these Punjabi words?
>>

guess so.

--
Rawat


Surjit Singh

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Jul 14, 2004, 10:42:55 AM7/14/04
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V Kodak wrote:

> Lashkar means "military camp" or 'chhavni'. (There is a suburb of Gwalior,
> called Lashkar, probably because Mughal armies used it as a camp ground...)
>
> Lashkaara may mean the one who prepares lashkar.

Absolutely, completely and totally wrong!

>
> Anand Bakshi obviously was using a lot of poetic license.
>
> He has often used Punjabi words like 'tur'.
>
> VK
>
> "bheem" <bhe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6a91e77f.04071...@posting.google.com...
>
>>In the song Bindiya Chamkegi, there are the following lines
>>
>>mai.n kahaa.N le jaauu.N apane lau.ng kaa lashkaaraa
>>is lashkaare se aake dvaare se -2
>>chal mu.Dadiiye te muD jaae
>>bi.ndiyaa chamakegii ...
>>
>>What does lashkaaraa mean?
>>
>>Also in the same song
>>
>>gaDDii Turadiiye te Tur jaae
>>
>>What does the above line mean?
>>Are these Punjabi words?
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>
>
>

--
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
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Rirfan6

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Jul 14, 2004, 8:04:36 AM7/14/04
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>Lashkaara may mean the one who prepares lashkar.


Lashkaara, a Punjabi word means glitter,
in Urdu it is 'Chamak'.

Irfan

V Kodak

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Jul 14, 2004, 3:30:05 PM7/14/04
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My meaning of Lashkar and Lashkaara were based on Hindi Urdu Kosh of Jamaal
Ahmed, published by Ram Narayan Arun Kumar publisher of Allahabad in 1992.

I don't think these meanings are wrong. Most likely, in the context of this
song, the other meaning 'chamak' is appropriate. Unfortunately, this Kosh
did not give this other meaning.

Surjit, are you saying that Lashkar does not mean 'military camp'?

VK


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Surjit Singh

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Jul 14, 2004, 3:36:32 PM7/14/04
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V Kodak wrote:

> My meaning of Lashkar and Lashkaara were based on Hindi Urdu Kosh of Jamaal
> Ahmed, published by Ram Narayan Arun Kumar publisher of Allahabad in 1992.
>
> I don't think these meanings are wrong. Most likely, in the context of this
> song, the other meaning 'chamak' is appropriate. Unfortunately, this Kosh
> did not give this other meaning.
>
> Surjit, are you saying that Lashkar does not mean 'military camp'?

lashkar is OK.

But lashkara has absolutely nothing to with it. It is an abstract noun
based on the concrete Panjabi noun lashak (similar to the Hindi chamak,
which is also used in Panjabi). lashak can also be used as a verb, e.g.
us daa matthaa lashakadaa hai (= his forhead shines) (probably has oily
skin!).

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V Kodak

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Jul 14, 2004, 3:58:00 PM7/14/04
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Sorry for seeking meaning of a rural Punjabi word in an Urdu dictionary.
Your "Absolutely, completely and totally wrong.." statement seemed to say
that the meaning of Lashkar is wrong (it is correct, though not applicable
here.) and that Lashkar is a not a town near/in Gwalior.

VK

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Afzal A. Khan

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Jul 14, 2004, 7:50:19 PM7/14/04
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V Kodak wrote:


>
> Lashkar means "military camp" or 'chhavni'. (There is a suburb of Gwalior,
> called Lashkar, probably because Mughal armies used it as a camp ground...)

> VK

Now that the meaning of "lashkaara" has been clearly
explained......

I thought "Lashkar" was not a suburb but probably the
central part of the city (that included BaaRa, Inderganj
and other areas). Now ThaaTipur can be called a suburb.

BTW, Gwalior has another part (maybe we can call it a
suburb) known as "Campoo".


Afzal

V Kodak

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Jul 14, 2004, 8:47:03 PM7/14/04
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This group sure likes to beat a topic and its sub-topics to death even if
those sub-topics have nothing to do with music.

Khan Saheb, I was not too sure of exact relationship of Gwalior and
Lashkar, that is why in my last posting, I wrote - "Lashkar is a... town
near/in Gwalior.

VK


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Abhay Jain

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Jul 15, 2004, 7:31:48 AM7/15/04
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"V Kodak" <Ko...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> This group sure likes to beat a topic and its sub-topics to death even if
> those sub-topics have nothing to do with music.
>

Good observation.

>
> VK
>


st

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Jul 15, 2004, 4:05:50 PM7/15/04
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Is this similar to "sharara" - as in "sharara sharara" - couple of years old
AB's song?

I think, sharara means "spark".


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V S Rawat

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Jul 15, 2004, 4:18:37 PM7/15/04
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st wrote:
> Is this similar to "sharara" - as in "sharara sharara" - couple of years old
> AB's song?
>
> I think, sharara means "spark".
>

I think sharaaraa is original shine as in a lamp or a shamaa
or a mombattii, and lashkaaraa is a reflected shine.

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Jul 15, 2004, 4:23:42 PM7/15/04
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"st" <s...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is this similar to "sharara" - as in "sharara sharara" - couple of years
old
> AB's song?
>
> I think, sharara means "spark".

"Sharara" is also a dress that women wear.


ek bharateeya

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