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Query about 'shokh nazar kii bijliyaan' (Woh Kaun Thi, 1964)

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Asif

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Oct 4, 2010, 10:27:07 AM10/4/10
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Sukesh Sahab:

It is great to see your mention (on another thread) of 'shokh nazar ki
bijliyaan' (Woh Kaun Thi, 1964), one of my all-time top favorite
songs. I have the film album's CD as well as a couple of 78 RPM
records. The records are in family collection in India, and I have
not listened to them at least since late '80s. I do not recall what
stanzas are on 78 version, but the CD has 'jaag uthi hai aarzoo' and
'chain kaheen kisi ghadi'. Kindly let me know what other stanza you
have listened to before (on 78). If you have the 78 version with this
other stanza, I would be grateful to you if please email it to me.
Thanks.

Asif

Sukesh

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Oct 4, 2010, 12:45:56 PM10/4/10
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> Asif

The film soundtrack has the following second verse

manzile ishk door hai
door bahot hi door hai
aa meraa haath thaam le
rooh thakan si choor hai
apne jahaa.n ko chhoD kar
mere jahaa.n pe chhaaye jaa

shokh nazar ki bijliyaa.n
dil pe mere giraaye jaa
shokh nazar ki bijliyaa.n

AFAIK, the stanzas you mention are on the CDs/78s/etc.
Yes, I agree it is a fabulous song, in fact one of my all time
favourites too and the one I like the best from the film.

Please send me a blank email to sukesh_hoogan <a> yahoo <dot> co <dot>
in
I will send you both the versions of the song.

Regards
Sukesh


Afzal A. Khan

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Oct 4, 2010, 2:50:57 PM10/4/10
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A very fine song. I particularly like the opening notes beginning
with a sharp 'twang'. The on-screen singer is Parveen Choudhary
(or should it be Praveen ?). But her love and care for Manoj Kumar
is totally unrequited. I recall that "Filmfare" magazine, while
reviewing the film referred to her as "a pathetic wallflower".

P. Choudhary didn't have a particularly successful career. I first
noticed her in "Professor" where she played the sister of the
heroine Kalpana. The two of them sing and dance with the chorus
in the first song "Hamre gaaNv koi aayega". Later, she falls in
love with a rather gawky 'Prince' Salim (who became a celebrated
film writer later on -- father of Salman Khan).

She got married to some Marwari businessman named Agarwal (though
I am not 100 % sure about the name) and left the industry.

I remember seeing her at the Indian Film Industry's Exhibition that
was held in South Bombay in early 1964.


Afzal


Note for Mr. Asif : On your specific request, I wrote a piece on
actress Shakila. It is there on the "Begunah (1957)" thread.
You probably forgot to take a look at it.

Asif

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Oct 4, 2010, 3:59:35 PM10/4/10
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First, thanks so much to Sukesh Sahab for offering me the song. I
will send you email tonight.

Afzal Sahab: I just searched for your response on 'Begunah' thread and
read it. Thanks so very much. It made for a gripping reading - I
will respond to it in more details there tomorrow. For now I am sorry
I missed it. Actually, Jay has been slinging so much mud at us
RMIMers for the past few months that it is hard to spot the proverbial
lotus of a post or a thread amidst his mud pool.

As for 'shokh nazar ki bijliyaan', I also greatly love the opening
notes. I do not recall what song was on the flip side of its record,
but I used to play this song again and again in those boyhood days.
To me, it sounded outstanding among those '50s and '60s gems that I
had on those 78s (feeling apologetic about mentioning 78 here ;-) -
you see it everywhere these days on RMIM). I think the other side has
'chhodkar tere pyaar ka daaman', which is another great favorite. I
do not know why but 'chhodkar tere pyar ka' makes me feel homesick
whenever I listen to it - does the opening line say it all? I do not
know.

When I finally saw the film on TV years later I was surprised to see
Parveen Chowdhary singing it. I thought Helen did it. Ms. Chowdhary
obviously did not do a good job in the song, for she did not any in
Teesri Manzil (1966) and was just thrown from the third floor there.
I saw Professor (1962) first time at the Tasveer Mahal in Aligarh in
1985 (while being a student at AMU) - this was the only theater that
always screened old films, mostly '60s musical hits. I saw most of
those musicals at the Tasveer Mahal - and loved them all so much that
every Fri or Sat I would cycle to the nearest market to check out film
posters in order to find out the next film the theater was going to
show. It happened so often that I got to listen to many songs (later
to become my all-time favorites) first time on screen while I watched
those films.

The song 'aawaaz deke hamen tum bulaao' (Professor, 1962) was one such
song and it truly thrilled me. I kept humming it for next several
months - yes, that is true! When I got back home for Winter break I
searched my family record collections and did not find any record of
it - was very disappointed. One of my uncles told me it was there but
probably broke. The song is so incredibly sweet that it still gives
me goosebumps whenever I listen to it. Long live Shankar-Jaikishan!

The song 'suno sajna' (Aaye Din Bahaar Ke, 1966) was another song I
first listened to in theater and fell in love with. I think in those
'60s years the trend of filming songs in the idyllic Kashmir inspired
the music directors and lyricists to infuse a certain sweetness in
their songs. I also listened to first time and fell in love with 'kar
le pyaar kar le' (Talash, 1969) also at Tasveer Mahal - though it was
filmed in a bar and on Helen! She looked so great in the song that I
returned to see the film and the song next day. The reason: when the
song began, two guys in the row ahead of me stood up to leave for
break, blocked my view, and I missed 1 minute of the song. That was a
huge loss for me, honestly.

Asif

Afzal A. Khan

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Oct 4, 2010, 6:13:54 PM10/4/10
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Was Parveen Chowdhury in "Teesri Manzil" ? I thought the girl
who gets thrown from the third or fourth floor in the film was
an obscure actress called "Sabina". Corrections welcome.


Afzal

Sangeet Mitr

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Oct 5, 2010, 11:04:42 AM10/5/10
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Let such memoirs keep flowing.......
Good to read!

Sunil Dandekar

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Oct 5, 2010, 11:37:02 AM10/5/10
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On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, Asif <alvi.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

Shokh nazar ki bijliya is an atypical MM song. A sedate paced song
enlivened by the bright and fast paced instrumental pieces, like his
master piece tum jo mil gaye ho, a song of satiety with an
instrumental edge of yearning for more.

MM has given very few sensuous songs. This arguably would be best of
the genre. At some places the music does get dizzying and hence less
enjoyable.

Song bordering on excellence, but give me lag ja gale or jo hum ne
daastaan any time.

regards,

Sunil

Asif

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Oct 5, 2010, 1:28:59 PM10/5/10
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On Oct 4, 6:13 pm, "Afzal A. Khan" <me_af...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>          Was Parveen Chowdhury in "Teesri Manzil" ?  I thought the girl
>          who gets thrown from the third or fourth floor in the film was
>          an obscure actress called "Sabina".  Corrections welcome.
>

I just checked IMDB and it says Sabina:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061073/

I always thought it was Parveen Chowdhary. I will check again by
watching her in Teesri Manzil and Professor. I have DVDs of both
films.

Asif

narwadek...@gmail.com

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Mar 29, 2017, 3:26:33 PM3/29/17
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Is she Shakila or Pravin Chaudhari.?

narwadek...@gmail.com

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narwadek...@gmail.com

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narwadek...@gmail.com

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narwadek...@gmail.com

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shu...@gmail.com

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Mar 30, 2017, 11:51:44 PM3/30/17
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COMPARE IT WITH ONE SONG WITH SIMILAR TUNE....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSSy7IlwDYI

poornim...@gmail.com

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Feb 23, 2018, 2:29:19 PM2/23/18
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Ok....so ...it's quite very interesting to see that there's quite a gang here who talk about n share things of " those times " with great zest n zeal...."Wonderful to know about it ".
I feel....I've finally found a place where I m feeling at home.

Hope people here would agree joining me in this gang....as I too have been a hard core Old Hindi film lover.

Co- incidentally.... I had logged in here to find out...as to where....I mean which place... was this song ' shokh nazar ki bijliyaan ' shot....??

Could anyone... please throw some light on that...??


Regards
Poornima.

poornim...@gmail.com

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Feb 23, 2018, 2:31:51 PM2/23/18
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N Sir....

The lady in this song is....Ms. Parveen Choudhary ...without a doubt...!!!

Hope that has answered your question....

Poornima.

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Mar 15, 2018, 8:09:21 AM3/15/18
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Parveen indeed had a short stay in films


Listed below are 2 songs, featuring her


JADOO NAGRI - Nighahon Mein Tum Ho (Lata)

At YouTube there are few listings of this song, incl some
from a highly worn out color print. Great song, marginal acting



ADVENTURES OF ROBINHOOD - Maana Mere Haseen Sanam (Rafi)

the song is addressed to her, so she is in the scene


Videos listings at YouTube >>> like above

Very good song and marginal picturization and silly costumes


Sudhir


March 15, 2018






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