Answers: RMIM Meet Quiz: Which Song Doesn't Belong
Ketan
RMIMers,
Am posting the answers--NOT THE RESULTS--of the recently concluded RMIM Meet
Quiz: Which Song Doesn't Belong. In all there were 10 entries received for this
quiz. Only 10 entries you say? Thank God, is what I say. Given what I have gone
thru since the deadline closed on Saturday, I am glad there weren't more. Based
on the multiple alternate answers that I have received from these 10
participants, I have had to spend a large part of the last 48 plus hrs or so,
verifying the answers with the help of Giitaayan, HFGK, YouTube. I even had to
look up Bollywood family trees to ascertain the veracity of some other answer.
On top of which, some of the answers were um...so confusing, that I had to ask
my beta-tester Shalini for advice and finally when we couldn't resolve it, had
to go to Sanjeev himself to be the tie-breaker. This quiz was an eye-opener and
humbling experience, in that, if I ever thought I knew a lot about Hindi film
music or movies(which I didn't)I was soon put in my proper place.
You may wonder why I am not posting the results. As you will see there is more
than one way to skin this cat and even after all these discussions, the three of
us--Sanjeev, Shalini and self--are still not sure of a few answers. We are
therefore opening it up for debate on RMIM. I am keeping the name of the
participant(s) who provided the alternate answer hidden, since it has no
relevance to the answer. However if they wish to identify themselves and defend
their arguments on the forum, they are welcome to do so. Based on your
responses, I will re-calculate the points and then declare the final results. In
the meantime read, discuss and enjoy.
The participants were(in no particular order):
Vijaykumar
Sanjeev and Armeen
Medha Gavai
Hema Gurnaney
Sanjeev Chandran and Rohit Bansal
Anirudha Bhattacharjee
Abhay and Radha Phadnis
Arunabha Roy and Vandana Vidwans
Tabassum Hijazi
Ritu Chandra
Thanks for participating. I definitely had fun looking at this from multiple
angles. I hope the participants did too.
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Question 1
A. Nain Mile Nain Hue Baawre - Taraana
B. Nain Mile Chain Kahaan - Basant Bahaar
C. Dil Men Samaa Gaye - Sangdil
D. Prem Jogan Banke - Mughal-e-Azam
Answer: B
Rationale: Songs A, C, and D picturized on Dilip Kumar and Madhubala
Alternate Answer: B: The other 3 have solo MD’s.
Decision: Accepted: I was against accepting it, since MD’s like
Husnlal-Bhagatram, S-J, L-P, K-A, Anand-Milind etc have normally been treated as
a single entity on previous RMIM quizzes. I was overruled by Shalini and Sanjeev
on this.
Question 2
A. Laga Chunri Men Daag – Dil Hi To Hai
B. Maine Shaayad Tumhen – Barsaat Ki Raat
C. Hamne Tujhko Pyaar Kiya – Dulha Dulhan
D. Mere Dushman Tu Meri – Aaye Din Bahaar Ke
Answer: A
Rationale:_Songs B, C, and D sung in front of a microphone
Alternate Answer: D: The other 3 are sung in a public performance on
AIR(assuming it means All India Radio or broadcast over the air)
Decision: Not Accepted: B is not sung on AIR but in a stage performance.
Alternate Answer: D: A, B & C have a question in their mukhda, while D does not.
Sanjeev: Nope. B is phrased as an assertion IMO, as in “Perhaps I have seen you
somewhere before”, not “Have I seen you somewhere before?” Contrast with later
in the song, “Tum Wohi Mere Khayaalon Ki Pari Ho Ke Nahin?”
Decision: I am inclined to agree with Sanjeev unless someone has a more
convincing argument.
Alternate Answer: B: Since A, C & D have live musical accompaniment onscreen
Decision: Accepted.
Alternate Answer: A. Since B, C & D are songs in which the heroine is part of
the audience, whereas in A she is not part of the audience.
Decision: Accepted.
Sanjeev: Just curious, where is Nutan in “Laga Chunri Men Daag” (not on stage of
course)?
Question 3
A. Piya Piya Piya - Baap-Re-Baap
B. Sexy Sexy Sexy Mujhe Log Bole - Khuddaar
C. Ek Do Teen - Tezaab
D. Chal Chal Chal Mere Saathi - Haathi Mere Saathi
Answer: C
Rationale: Mukhdas of songs A, B, and D begin with a “threepeat”-ed word
Question 4
A. Yahan Badla Wafa Ka - Jugnu
B. Dheere Dheere Aa Re - Kismat
C. Meri Kahaani Bhoolne Waale - Deedaar
D. Baalam Aaye Baso - Devdas
Answer: C
Rationale: Songs A, B, and D are from films released before Partition
Alternate Answer: C. Since, in A, B & D the singer and actor onscreen are the
same OR Other three have (at least one) singer onscreen (NJ, Ameerbai, KLS)
Decision: Debatable: Does Kismat have Ameerbai or Mumtaz Shanti? If it is
Ameerbai, since it is not clear whether the Kismat song above refers to the one
sung by Ashok Kumar(playback Arun Kumar Mukherjee) or the one sung by Ameerbai
(playback Ameerbai), I would have to accept the answer. RMIMERS?
Question 5
A. Apni To Har Aah – Kala Bazaar
B. Jiya O Jiya – Jab Pyaar Kisise Hota Hai
C. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Aradhana
D. Aasmaan Se Aaya Farishta – An Evening in Paris
Answer: D
Rationale:_Songs A, B, and C are picturized in a train
Alternate Answer: B: Since A, C & D are sung on some mode of transport
Decision: Not accepted: Jiya O Jiya is sung by Dev Anand perched atop a car. It
is literally sung ON a mode of transport.
Alternate Answer: B: A, C & D don't have tandem version
Decision: Not accepted: According to the rules you cannot use the reverse logic.
You have to show what the other 3 have in common
Question 6
A. Main Ye Soch Kar - Haqeeqat
B. Ek Raaje Ka Beta – President
C. Kaari Kaari Kaari Andhiyaari Ki Raat – Navrang
D. Mitwa - Devdas
Answer: D
Rationale:_Songs A, B, and C have “non-repeating” mukhdas
Alternate Answer: D. Since A, B & C are songs with a continuous verse and don’t
follow the mukhda-antara format
Decision: Debatable: RMIMERS?
Alternate Answer: C. Since A, B,& D are recitations throughout the length of
the song, whereas the Navrang song features a recitation followed by a
differently tuned musical piece by Asha.
Decision: Not accepted.
Sanjeev: Seems like a case of reverse logic to me.
Alternate Answer: C. Since, A, B & D have minimal music.
Decision: Not accepted. Cannot use reverse logic.
Alternate Answer: A. Since, B, C and D are from movies that revolve around a
love triangle
Decision: Debatable: I haven’t seen "President" so will refer it to RMIMERS?
Sanjeev: No idea…what a great way to pull a fast one though about a movie most
have probably not seen :)
Question 7
A. Deewaana Hua Baadal – Kashmir Ki Kali
B. Mujhko Yaaro Maaf Karna – Main Nashe Men Hoon
C. Laagi Chhoote Na Ab To Sanam – Kaali Topi Lal Rumaal
D. Mujhko Is Raat Ki Tanhaai Men – Dil Bhi Tera Ham Bhi Tere
Answer: B (Reminder: The quizmaster/mistress(?) are Sanjeev/Armeen. All teeth
gnashing will therefore be forwarded to them).
Rationale: Songs A, C, and D can b be linked while playing “antaakshari”
Sanjeev: Brickbats should be directed solely to me. Armeen fought me
tooth-and-nail to not include this song, but my sadistic tendencies prevailed.
:)
Alternate Answer: C. “A, B, D are picturized on or near a waterfront ?”
Decision: Debatable: I don’t know the picturization of C. B seems to be on/near
a beach. However for D, the Dharmendra version is sung on a balcony. Where is
the tandem version sung? RMIMers?
Alternate Answer: D—A, B & C are all songs that have featured as movie titles.
Decision: Debatable: I don’t recall a movie title for C. RMIMers?
Sanjeev: Is someone by chance thinking of the Bhojpuri film “Laagi Naahi Chhoote
Raama”? Close, but not an exact match
Question 8
A. Morni Baaga Ma Bole - Lamhe
B. Meri Bhains Ko Danda Kyon Maara – Pagla Kahin Ka
C. Chun-Chun Karti Aayi Chidiya – Ab Dilli Door Nahin
D. Gaadi Bulaa Rahi Hai - Dost
Answer: D
Rationale: Mukhdas of songs A, B, and C contain references to animals
Alternate Answer: D. “A, B, & C have traditional lyrics
Decision: Debatable: RMIMERS? Are the lyrics in A, B & C based on commonly heard
folklore, tales etc in various parts of India?
Question 9
A. Jaata Kahaan Hai - CID
B. Chaand Maddham Hai - Railway Platform
C. Kabhi Kabhi - Title Song
D. Balma Khuli Hawaa Men - Kashmir Ki Kali
Answer: C
Rationale: Songs A, B, and D were omitted from their respective films
Alternate Answer: C. A, B & D all belong to films that introduced one major
actor each to Hindi films.
Decision: Accepted: Since this is the answer my team had given at the meet.
CID(Waheeda), Railway Platform(Sunil Dutt), Kashmir Ki Kali(Sharmila) were the
debutants
Question 10
A. Savere Ka Sooraj - Ek Baar Muskuraado
B. Dil Lagaakar Ham Ye Samjhe - Zindagi Aur Maut
C. Mere Hamsafar - Refugee
D. Tere Mere Milan Ki - Abhimaan
Answer: A
Rationale: Songs B, C, and D are in Roopak Taal (7 beats)
Alternate Answer: D. The other three are based on a different raga.
Decision: Debatable: Are A, B & C based on the same raga? RMIMers?
Sanjeev: Nope. Unless you are trying the “Yaman” vs. “not-Yaman” angle, which is
out due to logic reversal.
Alternate Answer: C. A, B & D have a piano shown on-screen at some point in the
song
Decision: Debatable: Yes, C does not have a piano, and D does, in a brief
snippet, when Amitabh is shown practicing this song early on in the film. Don’t
know the picturization of A & B so will refer it to RMIMERS?
Question 11
A. Nain Dwaar Se Man Men Vo Aake - Saawan
B. Jahaan Daal-Daal Par – Sikandar-e-Azam
C. Mohabbat Zinda Rehti Hai – Changez Khan
D. Guzra Hua Zamaana – Shirin Farhad
Answer: D
Rationale: Songs A, B, and C were composed by Hansraj Behl
Question 12
A. Yaad Kiya Dil Ne - Patita
B. Ae Hairat-e-Aashiqi - Guru
C. Peete-Peete Kabhi-Kabhi - Bairaag
D. Aankhon Men Kya Ji - Nau Do Gyaarah
Answer: A
Rationale: Songs B, C, and D are picturized on couples married in real-life
Alternate Answer: A: Our initial guess was “A” with a logic of “On Screen pair
are married in real life”. However, the Bairaag song is actually picturized on
Dilip Kumar and Leena Chandavarkar, so we are not sure.
Decision: Accepted: It is indeed Dilip and Leena on screen, although Saira does
feature in the movie. However since this is an error on the part of the
quizmaster(remember, it is Sanjeev; Armeen wouldn’t make this kind of mistake
:)) points have been granted to all those whose answer matched the quizmasters.
Sanjeev: Actually, you are right – Armeen has seen more of these film song
picturizations than me, though thanks to YouTube, that’s changing :) This is the
second time I’ve made that mistake, because I believe the very same question was
included in this quiz’s previous incarnation about 7-8 years ago.
Question 13
A. Saaz Ho Tum – Saaz Aur Awaaz
B. Geet Tere Saaz Ka - Inteqaam
C. Chheda Mere Dil Ne – Asli Naqli
D. Rimjhim Ke Taraane Leke – Kala Bazaar
Answer: D
Rationale: The very first lines of songs A, B, and C contain the words “Saaz”
and “Awaaz”
Alternate Answer: D. A, B & C are sung by a character singing it onscreen.
Decision: Accepted.
Alternate Answer: C - A, B & D are from films where the director and one star
are relatives (Anand brothers, Mr & Mrs Nayyar, uncle and nephew Mukherjee)
Decision: Accepted-- Good catch that one.
Question 14
A. Meri Veena Tum Bin Roye – Dekh Kabira Roya
B. Dholi Taaro Dhol Baaje – Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam
C. Jinhen Naaz Hai - Pyaasa
D. Cheel-Cheel Chillake Kajri Sunaaye – Half Ticket
Answer: A
Rationale: Songs B, C, and D explicitly mention percussion instruments (Dhol,
Tabla, and Dholak)
Alternate Answer: C—A, B & D show the instrument that is mentioned in the song.
The tabla mentioned in “jinhe naaz” is not shown, while the veena, dhol and the
dholak can be seen.
Decision: Accepted. I saw the songs and verified.
Alternate Answer: C— A, B & D mention the musical instrument in the mukhaDa; in
C it is mentioned in the antaraa
Decision: Accepted.
Alternate Answer: A-- B, C, D get to the mukha.Daa only after a lengthy wordy
saaqii/prelude; A begins straight off
Decision: Debatable: One could argue that even A has a long alaap-ish prelude,
albeit non-wordy. So whether this team gets their points or not depends on what
other RMIMers think.
Sanjeev: Accepted. Alaap <> verbal prelude.
Addendum: Sanjeev's decision is final.
Question 15
A. Nain Tumhaare Mazedaar - Junglee
B. Ajhun Na Aaye – Sanjh Aur Savera
C. Ae Dil Hai Mushkil - CID
D. Do Sitaaron Ka Zameen Par - Kohinoor
Answer: D
Rationale: Songs A. B. And C picturized on “sidey” couples
Question 16
A. More Naina Bahaaye Neer - Baawarchi
B. Panchhi Nadiya Pawan Ke - Refugee
C. Ek Ladki Ko Dekha - 1942 ALS
D. John Jani Janardan - Naseeb
Answer: C
Rationale: Songs A, B, and D picturized on members of rhe Bachchan family
Alternate Answer: D—A. B & C are sung in an outdoor location.
Decision: Debatable: AFAIR, the Bawarchi song is sung indoors. RMIMERS?
Sanjeev: Correct (unless it’s somehow an open-air auditorium)! Not accepted
Question 17
A. O Sajna Barkha Bahaar Aai - Parakh
B. Meri Baat Rahi Mere Man Men - Sahib Bibi Aur Ghulam
C. Saaqiya Aaj Mujhe - Sahib Bibi Aur Ghulam
D. Meethe Bole Bole - Kinaara
Answer: C
Rationale: Songs A, B, and D have Bengali originals
Alternate Answer: C—A, B & D are sung on screen by one of the lead stars in the
film. “Saaqiya aaj mujhe” is sung by Minoo Mumtaz, who is not a lead star in the
movie.
Decision: Accepted:
Question 18
A. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Jawaan Mohabbat
B. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Shah Jahaan
C. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Veena
D. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Aradhana
Answer: A, B, C & D
Rationale: Quizmaster(I am innocent—the quizmaster is Sanjeev) being obnoxious
–5 points given for any answer! :)
Alternate Answer, given by Dr M L Kapoor of our team. B—The other 3 songs don’t
begin with a prelude of spoken words, whereas this one does.
Alternate Answer, preferred by Ketan and Ravinder of our team: D—the other songs
don’t really matter. D is the only song with these words that is relevant in the
history of HFM. :)
Alternate Answer: D—A, B, C are picturized on Shammi Kapoor, Saigal and Motilal
past or well into their prime/acting career. D is the start of superstardom for
Rajesh Khanna
Decision: Not accepted: Was Saigal past his prime when Shahjahan was made?
Question 19
A. Badi Der Se Megha Barsa Ho Rama - Namkeen
B. Mere Sapne Men Aana Re - Rajhath
C. Kahin Pe Nigaahen - CID
D. Banwaari Re - Ek Phool Chaar Kaante
Answer: B
Rationale: Songs A, C, and D picturized on Waheeda Rehman
Question 20
A. Zikr Hota Hai Jab - My Love
B. Phir Teri Kahaani Yaad Aayi - Dil Diya Dard Liya
C. Har Dil Jo Pyaar Karega - Sangam
D. Deewaana Mujhsa Nahin - Teesri Manzil
Answer: A
Rationale: Songs B, C, and D were later used as movie titles
Alternate Answer: B—A, C & D feature a Kapoor sibling each
Decision: Accepted
Alternate Answer: D--A, B, C are sung by the actor to a heroine in love with
some other person
Decision: Not accepted. Both Shalini and Sanjeev who have seen DDDL disagree
about there being a love-triange.
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Question 21
A. Ae mere pyaare watan—Kabuliwallah
B. Aao jhoome gaayen—Parayan Dhan
C. Tu pyaar ka saagar hai-- Seema
D. Dharti kahe pukar ke…mausam beeta jaaye—Do Bhiga Zameen
Answer: C
Rationale: All songs feature Balraj Sahani. However he does not sing the words
in A, B & D.
Alternate Answer: C—A, B & D are based on a Bengali short story while C is not.
Decision: Debatable: RMIMERS?
Alternate Answer: B—A, C & D have Balraj Sahani in the picturization, whereas B
does not.
Decision: Not Accepted: AFAIR, B also has Balraj Sahani in the picturization. He
just doesnt sing the words.
Question 22
A. Mehbooba Mehbooba--Sholay
B. Jhoom jhoom ke jaaam chuum ke—Coffee House
C. Jeevan ke safar main raahi--Munimji
D. Chhoo kar mere man ko--Yaarana
Answer: D
Rationale: A, B & C are songs which are borrowed from Western tunes. D is the
only song whose tune is not inspired by a foreign tune—instead it is based on
Rabindra Sangeet
Alternate Answer: A—B, C & D are not sung by the MDs, whereas A is the only song
that is sung by the MD.
Decision: Not Accepted. Cannot use reverse logic
Alternate Answer: C-- A, B, D are copied songs/tunes. C being composed by SDB is
in all likelihood copied but so far the source has not been discovered by
RMIMers,so it is the odd one out
Decision: Yo--Did you seriously think an answer that has a statement like “C
being composed by SDB is in all likelihood copied” would win you brownie or any
points with ME? Aren't you confusing baap and beta or do you think SDB liberally
copies all tunes? You have some nerve! 50 points for being brave enough to come
up with this rationale. Minus 150 for sending it to me. In any case--Not
accepted. C is also copied. See i2fs. :)
Question 23
A. Pyaar par bas to nahin—Sone Ki Chidiya
B. Mujhe jaan na kaho meri jaan--Anubhav
C. Jinhe naaz hai hind--Pyaasa
D. Hum hai mataa-e-kuchaa--Dastak
Answer: B
Rationale: A, C & D are songs whose lyrics appeared initially as a poem.
Alternate Answer: B, C & D are solos. A is the only duet.
Decision: According to the rules, xyz is a solo-duets etc is not an acceptable
answer. Not accepted
Alternate Answer: C-- In the other three films, noted singers make appearances.
A.Talat, B.Subir Sen, D.Shakeela Banu Bhopali.
Decision: Debatable: I don’t remember Subir Sen in Anubhav, but then I saw it a
long time ago. RMIMERS?
Alternate Answer: B. All other songs are from "Dead Poets' Society"
(Sahir/Majrooh dead, Gulzar still around)
Decision: Accepted.
Question 24
A. Azeem O Shaan Shahenshah—Jodha Akbar
B. Sapt suran teen gram—Tansen (1942)
C. Paon choo lene do phoolon ko inayat—Taj Mahal
D. Pyar kiya to darna kya—Mughal-E-Azam
Answer: C
Rationale: A, B & D are all songs that feature Akbar in the song/movie. C is the
era of Jehangir/Shah Jahan.
Alternate Answer: B-- The rest of the films are based on Mughal kings
Decision: Not accepted. Taj Mahal is a movie that features a Mughal king just as
Tansen is a movie that also features a Mughal King. If one is about a singer,
the other is about a monument.
Question 25
A. Yeh hawa yeh raat yeh chaandni--Sangdil
B. Hame raaston ki zaroorat— Naram Garam
C. Saathi re tujh bin jiya udaas—Poonam Ki Raat
D. Aakhon aakhon main ho gaye mast ishare—Khazanchi
Answer: A
Rationale: B, C & D are all songs by MD’s who have reused portions of the tune
in another of their own songs. A is the only song whose tune (or portion of it)
was not reused by the same MD in another song.
Alternate Answer: C- the only song( in entirety) that did not inspire another
song with a similar tune.
Decision: Not accepted. Firstly one cannot use reverse logic. Secondly, I don’t
find the “Naram Garam” song copied in its entirety either. The “Saagar” song has
different antaras.
Alternate Answer: C-- C. Saathi re. A, B & D have been recasted into different
nos, for e,g: Sagar kinare, Tujhe kya sunayun mein..the interlude of Sathi re
has been recast as Baag mein, but the original bengali song of Baag mein was
before its hindi counterpart
Decision: Not accepted. Both “Saathi re” and “Baagh main kali khili” (as well as
Cheemeen which also uses this tune) are from movies made in 1965. Hard to say
which one reused the tune in the other. I agree that the Bengali version came
earlier. But I am talking of tunes being reused in Hindi films only.
Alternate Answer: A-- The other songs are by MDs who have worked on films in
more than one language (GH worked in Punjabi, RDB in Bengali, Salil in many
languages)
Decision: Debatable: GH? Surely you mean MM right? We are talking of that
“Khazanchi” not the one whose MD is Ghulam Haider. This MM “Khazanchi” song was
later recast as “Naino waali ne haay mera dil loot liya” in Mera Saaya. The
question is—did MM work in any other language? If he did, your answer is valid.
And no—“Veer Zaara’s” story being partly based in Pakistan, does NOT count as
working in another language. RMIMERS?
Question 26
A. Aa humsafar pyaar ki sej par--Yasmeen
B. Yeh dil aur unki nighahon ke saaye—Prem Parbat
C. Mausam hai aashiqana—Pakeezaah
D. Ae meri zohra jabeen—Waqt
Answer: A
Rationale: MDs in songs B, C & D were assistants who made a name as independent
MDs. Basu-Manohari, never really made it as independent MDs.
Alternate Answer: C—A, B & D start with a humming( aaaaa, lalala ,oi oi type)
prelude. C does not.
Decision: Accepted
Alternate Answer: A- Since B, C & D are solos. A is a duet.
Decision: Not accepted, since solos-duets reasoning is not allowed as part of
the rules
Alternate Answer: A- B, C & D were used in only one film. A was used in Yasmeen
and Chatpatee.
Decision: Not accepted. It is reverse logic. In any case, AFAIK, Yasmeen and
Chatpatee are the same movie. The movie was originally made under the title
“Yasmeen”. When there were no buyers, it was put in the cans, left there and
later released under the new title “Chatpatee”. However I may be wong. RMIMERS?
Alternate Answer: C—The lyricist of A, B & D is not the director of that movie.
Whereas in C the lyricist “Kamaal Amrowhi” is also the director.
Decision: Not accepted. Cannot use reverse logic.
Alternate Answer: A— The composers of B, C & D have been assistants of famous
music directors
Decision: Huh? Basu-Manohari assisted someone who was not a famous composer? In
one master stroke, you have wiped out the entire marketing strategy of the
music, remix, video and movie industry for the last 14 years. And to think they
served their LoRD so well. :) Not accepted
Question 27
A. Saath ho tum aur raat jawan—Kanchi ki Gudiya
B. Tumko piya dil diya itne naaz se--Shikari
C. Tum bhi chalo hum bhi chale--Zameer
D. Mere mehboob qayamat hogi—Mr. X in Bombay
Answer: D
Rationale: A, B & C are composed by MD’s who were assistants of other famous
MD’s but never made it big on their own. Kinda the reverse of Question 26.
Alternate Answer: D—In A, B & C the singer is providing playback for a different
person, whereas in D the singer is providing playback for himself.
Decision: Not Accepted. It is reverse logic.
Alternate Answer: D—A, B & C all have “tum” in the mukhda, whereas D does not
Decision: Debatable: This is getting into Prof. Saab’s territory. However we do
have the “Saaw/Aawaaz” question which is essentially the same. So—RMIMERS,
please vote using your cell phones.
Alternate Answer: C--All other songs are by composers who were assistants
previously. Sapan Chakrabarty was a composer before becoming an assistant- Naya
nasha preceded Zahareela Insaan, his first film with RD.
Decision: Debatable: I somehow very much remember, “Paraya Dhan” being SapanC’s
first movie as assistant MD. Short of trying to get hold of the movie and
putting up a freeze frame of the titles, I have no way to prove this, so I will
leave it to RMIMERS to see if someone can upload that frame where the assistant
MD is mentioned, or if someone has more input on this.
Note: Some others mentioned that L-P were never assistants. They were officially
credited as assitants to RD in “Chhote Nawab”.
Question 28
A. You are my Sonia—Kabhi Khushi Kabhi Gham
B. Aayi pari rang bhari—Do Phool
C. Piya Haji Ali--Fiza
D. Woh Kisna hai--Kisna
Answer: B
Rationale: A, C & D are songs in movies that have more than one MD. Do Phool has
just one MD.
Alternate Answer: Others include address to specific individual by name.
Others have a proper noun, Sonia, Haji Ali, Kisna. Pari is common noun.
Decision: Accepted.
Question 29
A. Chhoti si yeh duniya pehchane raaste hai--Rangoli
B. Tu is tarah se meri zindagi main—Aap to aise na the
C. Wahan kaun hai tera--Guide
D. Neela aasman so gaya—Silsila
Answer: C
Rationale: A, B & D are all tandem songs.
Alternate Answer: D—A, B & C allude to a “raasta/safar”.
Decison: Debatable: Hmm...You are on thin ice here with B alluding to
“raasta/safar”. RMIMERS?
Question 30
A. Tu cheez badi hai mast mast--Mohra
B. Papa kehte hain bada naam—Qayamat se qayamat tak
C. Main dil hoon ek armaan bhara--Anhonee
D. Tumse milke dil ka hai jo haal—Main Hoon Na
Answer: C
Rationale: A, B & D all have MD’s whose father was a famous MD. C has a son who
is a famous MD.
Alternate Answer: C—all the other songs feature or have dance performances.
Decision: Accepted
Ritu
> RMIMers,
>
> Am posting the answers--NOT THE RESULTS--of the recently concluded RMIM Meet
> Quiz: Which Song Doesn't Belong. In all there were 10 entries received for this
> quiz. Only 10 entries you say? Thank God, is what I say. Given what I have gone
> thru since the deadline closed on Saturday, I am glad there weren't more. Based
> on the multiple alternate answers that I have received from these 10
> participants, I have had to spend a large part of the last 48 plus hrs or so,
Dandawat praanaam for undertaking this unenvious task. Even though I
did did not make passing marks I still enjoyed scratching my head.
>
> Question 26
>
> A. Aa humsafar pyaar ki sej par--Yasmeen
> B. Yeh dil aur unki nighahon ke saaye—Prem Parbat
> C. Mausam hai aashiqana—Pakeezaah
> D. Ae meri zohra jabeen—Waqt
>
>
> Alternate Answer: A— The composers of B, C & D have been assistants of famous
> music directors
> Decision: Huh? Basu-Manohari assisted someone who was not a famous composer? In
> one master stroke, you have wiped out the entire marketing strategy of the
> music, remix, video and movie industry for the last 14 years. And to think they
> served their LoRD so well. :) Not accepted
Ok this is the only one of my follies I am willing to admit to in
public. My rationale for this answer was based off looking at the
names of the films. Since I am only an SDB fan I am not acquainted
with the Basu-Manohari golden collection :). I have no idea what films
they have scored for. I thought this Yasmeen was the CR Yasmeen.
Again, since CR is not as high on my radar either, I assumed this must
be one of those zillion CR-Lata songs that all sound the same and and
have equally forgettable lyrics.
So you see based on the film name alone my answer is correct. I should
get some brownie points. :)
Abhay Phadnis
Thanks again for the quiz, and for taking the trouble to wade through
and verify so many alternatives. Hats off to all the quizmasters!
> Question 1
> Answer: B
> Rationale: Songs A, C, and D picturized on Dilip Kumar and Madhubala
D-uh! How could we have missed this? The alternative answer we gave
suddenly looks so lame! :(
> Question 2
> Alternate Answer: D: A, B & C have a question in their mukhda, while D does not.
>
> Sanjeev: Nope. B is phrased as an assertion IMO, as in “Perhaps I have seen you
> somewhere before”, not “Have I seen you somewhere before?” Contrast with later
> in the song, “Tum Wohi Mere Khayaalon Ki Pari Ho Ke Nahin?”
> Decision: I am inclined to agree with Sanjeev unless someone has a more
> convincing argument.
Not our answer but...if you just say "A, B, and C contain questions
while D does not", would that be acceptable?
> Question 4
> Alternate Answer: C. Since, in A, B & D the singer and actor onscreen are the
> same OR Other three have (at least one) singer onscreen (NJ, Ameerbai, KLS)
>
> Decision: Debatable: Does Kismat have Ameerbai or Mumtaz Shanti? If it is
> Ameerbai, since it is not clear whether the Kismat song above refers to the one
> sung by Ashok Kumar(playback Arun Kumar Mukherjee) or the one sung by Ameerbai
> (playback Ameerbai), I would have to accept the answer. RMIMERS?
This was guesswork based on a vague memory of having read about
Ameerbai featuring in the movie. If that is not correct, our answer is
of course wrong. An alternative answer (too late for 'competitive'
consideration, of course!) could be that A, B, and D have at least one
singer who is a bona fide singer-actor while C does not - workable?
> Question 5
> Answer: D
> Rationale:_Songs A, B, and C are picturized in a train
Our memory of "aasmaan se aayaa farishtaa" is only of the helicopter -
we didn't recall a train in it.
> Alternate Answer: B: Since A, C & D are sung on some mode of transport
>
> Decision: Not accepted: Jiya O Jiya is sung by Dev Anand perched atop a car. It
> is literally sung ON a mode of transport.
Not the Lata version! :) Perhaps we should have phrased our answer as
"Other three are on some form of transport while B has one version
that is not on any vehicle."
> Question 6
> Alternate Answer: A. Since, B, C and D are from movies that revolve around a
> love triangle
> Decision: Debatable: I haven’t seen "President" so will refer it to RMIMERS?
> Sanjeev: No idea…what a great way to pull a fast one though about a movie most
> have probably not seen :)
"President" does indeed have a love triangle (two sisters who love the
same guy): the story was remade later as "Baharein Phir Bhi Aayegi".
> Question 7
> A. Deewaana Hua Baadal – Kashmir Ki Kali
> B. Mujhko Yaaro Maaf Karna – Main Nashe Men Hoon
> C. Laagi Chhoote Na Ab To Sanam – Kaali Topi Lal Rumaal
> D. Mujhko Is Raat Ki Tanhaai Men – Dil Bhi Tera Ham Bhi Tere
We had sent (as an addendum to our entry) a mail with answers to
questions 7 and 18. Since both don't appear here, I assume the mail
didn't reach the quizmaster. We said 'A' (written by S H Bihari) was
the odd one out as the other three are by lyricists who were well-
known as non-film poets too (although Hasrat was not in the same
league as Majrooh and Shamim). Would be interested to hear the
quizmasters' views.
> Question 10
> A. Savere Ka Sooraj - Ek Baar Muskuraado
> B. Dil Lagaakar Ham Ye Samjhe - Zindagi Aur Maut
> C. Mere Hamsafar - Refugee
> D. Tere Mere Milan Ki - Abhimaan
> Alternate Answer: C. A, B & D have a piano shown on-screen at some point in the
> song
> Decision: Debatable: Yes, C does not have a piano, and D does, in a brief
> snippet, when Amitabh is shown practicing this song early on in the film. Don’t
> know the picturization of A & B so will refer it to RMIMERS?
The Asha version of B does show Faryal singing while playing a piano.
As of A, we are not sure, but I had a vague memory of it being
picturised at a party, so we guessed a piano must be around
somewhere! :)
> Question 18
> A. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Jawaan Mohabbat
> B. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Shah Jahaan
> C. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Veena
> D. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Aradhana
The other one in our missed mail - the odd one out is A, because
(repeating our logic in Question 1!) this is by an MD pair while the
others are by solo MDs.
> Question 25
>
> A. Yeh hawa yeh raat yeh chaandni--Sangdil
> B. Hame raaston ki zaroorat— Naram Garam
> C. Saathi re tujh bin jiya udaas—Poonam Ki Raat
> D. Aakhon aakhon main ho gaye mast ishare—Khazanchi
> Alternate Answer: A-- The other songs are by MDs who have worked on films in
> more than one language (GH worked in Punjabi, RDB in Bengali, Salil in many
> languages)
> Decision: Debatable: GH? Surely you mean MM right?
No - we completely forgot about the MM 'Khazanchi'! :( I can't recall
MM working in any other language, so the answer won't hold.
> Question 26
>
> A. Aa humsafar pyaar ki sej par--Yasmeen
> B. Yeh dil aur unki nighahon ke saaye—Prem Parbat
> C. Mausam hai aashiqana—Pakeezaah
> D. Ae meri zohra jabeen—Waqt
Along with the "two movies for A" answer, we had also sent two
alternatives (in our last 'proper' entry, not the email addendum):
- D, because the other MDs spent a substantial part of their careers
as assistants to other MDs while Ravi spent a very short while as
assistant before going solo;
- D, because the other songs are picturised on the romantic lead in
those films while this is picturised on a 'character actor'.
Unless the "Yasmeen/Chatpatee" song is picturised on a "side" actor,
surely the last answer above should hold!
Warm regards,
Abhay
sancho
> Question 2
> A. Laga Chunri Men Daag – Dil Hi To Hai
> B. Maine Shaayad Tumhen – Barsaat Ki Raat
> C. Hamne Tujhko Pyaar Kiya – Dulha Dulhan
> D. Mere Dushman Tu Meri – Aaye Din Bahaar Ke
> Alternate Answer: D: The other 3 are sung in a public performance on AIR(assuming it means All India Radio or broadcast over the air)
> Decision: Not Accepted: B is not sung on AIR but in a stage performance.
Agree that the AIR is incorrect. Would you have accepted just "a
public performance" or perhaps "a planned public performance" since
"Mere dushman" is a typical hindi film song sung off the cuff because
Dharmendra suddenly sees Asha Parekh with a baby.
> Question 4
> A. Yahan Badla Wafa Ka - Jugnu
> B. Dheere Dheere Aa Re - Kismat
> C. Meri Kahaani Bhoolne Waale - Deedaar
> D. Baalam Aaye Baso - Devdas
>
> Alternate Answer: C. Since, in A, B & D the singer and actor onscreen are the same OR Other three have (at least one) singer onscreen (NJ, Ameerbai, KLS)
>
AFAIR Kismat does star Mumtaz Shanti and she sings it on screen.
Question 6
> A. Main Ye Soch Kar - Haqeeqat
> B. Ek Raaje Ka Beta – President
> C. Kaari Kaari Kaari Andhiyaari Ki Raat – Navrang
> D. Mitwa - Devdas
>
> Answer: D
> Rationale:_Songs A, B, and C have “non-repeating” mukhdas
>
> Alternate Answer: D. Since A, B & C are songs with a continuous verse and don’t follow the mukhda-antara format
This was our answer and I am unclear how it actually differs from your
rationale. Maybe, I am not understanding the meaning of the word
"mukhda" correctly. If it just means the first lines/para of a song,
with the remaining lines being the "antaras" then clearly every song
follows the mukhda antara format. However, the way I understand it, a
loose definition would be that a mukhda is (generally) the first few
lines which are repeated at the end of each stanza. In which case
"continuous verse" and "non repeating mukhdas" would mean the same
thing, wouldn't it?
> Question 8
> A. Morni Baaga Ma Bole - Lamhe
> B. Meri Bhains Ko Danda Kyon Maara – Pagla Kahin Ka
> C. Chun-Chun Karti Aayi Chidiya – Ab Dilli Door Nahin
> D. Gaadi Bulaa Rahi Hai - Dost
>
> Answer: D
> Rationale: Mukhdas of songs A, B, and C contain references to animals
Should have got this one - it stared one in the eye...
> Question 21
> A. Ae mere pyaare watan—Kabuliwallah
> B. Aao jhoome gaayen—Parayan Dhan
> C. Tu pyaar ka saagar hai-- Seema
> D. Dharti kahe pukar ke…mausam beeta jaaye—Do Bhiga Zameen
>
> Answer: C
> Rationale: All songs feature Balraj Sahani. However he does not sing the words in A, B & D.
What you are saying is that Balraj Sahni sings in "tu pyar ka saagar
hai" but he does not in the others". Isn' t this also reverse logic?
> Question 23
>
> A. Pyaar par bas to nahin—Sone Ki Chidiya
> B. Mujhe jaan na kaho meri jaan--Anubhav
> C. Jinhe naaz hai hind--Pyaasa
> D. Hum hai mataa-e-kuchaa--Dastak
>
> Answer: B
> Rationale: A, C & D are songs whose lyrics appeared initially as a poem.
Got the rationale from C and D. Picked the wrong song from between A
and B :(
In fact, it would be interesting to see how often that happened - the
right rationale (that is...the same as what you had thought of) but
the wrong song
> Question 27
>
> A. Saath ho tum aur raat jawan—Kanchi ki Gudiya
> B. Tumko piya dil diya itne naaz se--Shikari
> C. Tum bhi chalo hum bhi chale--Zameer
> D. Mere mehboob qayamat hogi—Mr. X in Bombay
Hey, we had given an answer to this as D with the rationale that the
person/people on screen singing it can be seen on screen while singing
it. No comments on that :)
Once again, hats off to a great job....
Sanjeev (Sancho) Chandran and Rohit Bansal
AR
>
> Am posting the answers--NOT THE RESULTS--of the recently concluded RMIM Meet
> Quiz: Which Song Doesn't Belong. In all there were 10 entries received for this
> quiz. Only 10 entries you say? Thank God, is what I say. Given what I have gone
> A. Laga Chunri Men Daag – Dil Hi To Hai
> B. Maine Shaayad Tumhen – Barsaat Ki Raat
> C. Hamne Tujhko Pyaar Kiya – Dulha Dulhan
> D. Mere Dushman Tu Meri – Aaye Din Bahaar Ke
>
> Answer: A
> Rationale:_Songs B, C, and D sung in front of a microphone
>
I didn't attempt this quiz, but nevertheless I'm a bit curious to know
whether the following would be considered a "right" answer:
Song C is the odd man out because it is a male-female tandem, whereas
all the others are male solos.
Ketan
In article <011242b0-ba58-4789...@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
Abhay Phadnis says...
>> Question 2
>>Alternate Answer: D: A, B & C have a question in their mukhda, while D does >>
>>not.
>>
>> Sanjeev: Nope. B is phrased as an assertion IMO, as in "Perhaps I have
>> seen you somewhere before, not "Have I seen you somewhere before?" Contrast
>> with later in the song, "Tum Wohi Mere Khayaalon Ki Pari Ho Ke Nahin?"
>> Decision: I am inclined to agree with Sanjeev unless someone has a more
>> convincing argument.
>
>Not our answer but...if you just say "A, B, and C contain questions
>while D does not", would that be acceptable?
Personally..that's still a pretty thin argument. You would have to prove that D
does not have even a hint of a question. I looked for the lyrics on Giitayan but
it does not have "Mere Dushamn tu meri.." from Aaye Din Bahar Ke, so cannot
conclusively state if it has a question or not. I am very hesitant to punish
myself by listening to the L-P song again :)
>> Question 4
>> Alternate Answer: C. Since, in A, B & D the singer and actor onscreen are=
>>the same OR Other three have (at least one) singer onscreen (NJ, Ameerbai, >>
>>KLS)
>> Decision: Debatable: Does Kismat have Ameerbai or Mumtaz Shanti? If it is
>>Ameerbai, since it is not clear whether the Kismat song above refers to the >>
>>one sung by Ashok Kumar(playback Arun Kumar Mukherjee) or the one sung by
>> Ameerbai(playback Ameerbai), I would have to accept the answer. RMIMERS?
>This was guesswork based on a vague memory of having read about
>Ameerbai featuring in the movie. If that is not correct, our answer is
>of course wrong. An alternative answer (too late for 'competitive'
>consideration, of course!) could be that A, B, and D have at least one
>singer who is a bona fide singer-actor while C does not - workable?
If you mean Ameerbai is the bonafide singer-actor, well yes it would be ok. If
you mean Ashok Kumar as the bonafide singer-actor, I could not grant it since he
is there even in C- Deedar.
>> Question 6
>> Alternate Answer: A. Since, B, C and D are from movies that revolve around a
>> love triangle
>> Decision: Debatable: I haven't seen "President" so will refer it to
>> RMIMERS?
>>Sanjeev: No idea--what a great way to pull a fast one though about a movie >>
>>most have probably not seen :)
>
>"President" does indeed have a love triangle (two sisters who love the
>same guy): the story was remade later as "Baharein Phir Bhi Aayegi".
Does Navrang have a love triangle?
>> Question 7
>> A. Deewaana Hua Baadal--Kashmir Ki Kali
>> B. Mujhko Yaaro Maaf Karna --Main Nashe Men Hoon
>> C. Laagi Chhoote Na Ab To Sanam--Kaali Topi Lal Rumaal
>> D. Mujhko Is Raat Ki Tanhaai Men--Dil Bhi Tera Ham Bhi Tere
>
>We had sent (as an addendum to our entry) a mail with answers to
>questions 7 and 18. Since both don't appear here, I assume the mail
>didn't reach the quizmaster. We said 'A' (written by S H Bihari) was
>the odd one out as the other three are by lyricists who were well-
>known as non-film poets too (although Hasrat was not in the same
>league as Majrooh and Shamim). Would be interested to hear the
>quizmasters' views.
I did receive your addendum. However on http://www.shbihari.com/Welcome.html, I
found that he has written love poems. Not that I have read any, but if someone
from ALUP can disprove that, then I will grant you the points.
Also Javed Akhtar made the following statement in an interview which further led
me to believe that S H Bihari was a poet. (Yes I did research all this--now you
know why I am glad there were just 10 responses).
http://www.webindia123.com/movie/interview/in140506.htm
Q. You have reached a pinnacle as a lyricist. Don't you think you need to move
upward?
A. If I start believing I have written it all, it would be very pompous of me.
Lyricists like Shailendra and Sahir (Ludhianvi) who were my role models - have
achieved that pinnacle. They are mind-blowing. So are poets whom no one
remembers today like SH Bihari, Bharat Vyas, Pradeep and Raja Mehndi Ali Khan.
Ofcourse calling Sahir as a mere lyricist is factually incorrect since he does
have poems to his name. Therefore I will wait for others more knowledgeable than
me to shed some light--UVR, Nita, Afzal saab, Naseer saab, anyone?
>> Question 18
>> A. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Jawaan Mohabbat
>> B. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Shah Jahaan
>> C. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Veena
>> D. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Aradhana
>
>The other one in our missed mail - the odd one out is A, because
>(repeating our logic in Question 1!) this is by an MD pair while the
>others are by solo MDs.
Yup, you are right. In any case everyone got 5 points for this one.
>> Question 26
>>
>> A. Aa humsafar pyaar ki sej par--Yasmeen
>> B. Yeh dil aur unki nighahon ke saaye--Prem Parbat
>> C. Mausam hai aashiqana--Pakeezaah
>> D. Ae meri zohra jabeen--Waqt
>
>Along with the "two movies for A" answer, we had also sent two
>alternatives (in our last 'proper' entry, not the email addendum):
>- D, because the other MDs spent a substantial part of their careers
>as assistants to other MDs while Ravi spent a very short while as
>assistant before going solo;
But Ravi continued to be assistant to Hemant Kumar even after he went solo. The
same could be said for Jaidev. He started off as assistant to Ustad Ali Akbar
Khan sometime in 1950-51 and by 1954 had his first solo movie "Joru Ka Bhai". He
also switched to becoming SDB's assistant in that same year with Taxi Driver
while continuing to compose music for movies independently. Since there was no
clarification of what you thought was "short while", I did not accept your
response.
>- D, because the other songs are picturised on the romantic lead in
>those films while this is picturised on a 'character actor'.
>Unless the "Yasmeen/Chatpatee" song is picturised on a "side" actor,
>surely the last answer above should hold!
I don't know who it was picturized on but it is likely it was picturized on the
lead pair. However since you had provided 3 answers--D, D and A, I was a nice
guy and picked A, since you would atleast get 2 points, even if your rationale
was wrong. If you like I will accept D and cancel those 2 points. Your call :)
In article <3ab1a53e-b60d-4291...@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
sancho says...
>> Question 2
>> A. Laga Chunri Men Daag--Dil Hi To Hai
>> B. Maine Shaayad Tumhen--Barsaat Ki Raat
>> C. Hamne Tujhko Pyaar Kiya--Dulha Dulhan
>> D. Mere Dushman Tu Meri--Aaye Din Bahaar Ke
>
>> Alternate Answer: D: The other 3 are sung in a public performance on AIR
>> (assuming it means All India Radio or broadcast over the air)
>> Decision: Not Accepted: B is not sung on AIR but in a stage performance.
>Agree that the AIR is incorrect. Would you have accepted just "a
>public performance" or perhaps "a planned public performance" since
>"Mere dushman" is a typical hindi film song sung off the cuff because
>Dharmendra suddenly sees Asha Parekh with a baby.
I haven't seen Dulha Dulhan, but from viewing the song, it seemed that it too
was a party scene where the hero just started singing and was fortunate to have
live musical accompaniment. I could be wrong.
> Question 6
>> A. Main Ye Soch Kar - Haqeeqat
>> B. Ek Raaje Ka Beta--President
>> C. Kaari Kaari Kaari Andhiyaari Ki Raat--Navrang
>> D. Mitwa - Devdas
>>
>> Answer: D
>> Rationale:_Songs A, B, and C have =93non-repeating=94 mukhdas
>>
>> Alternate Answer: D. Since A, B & C are songs with a continuous verse and
> don't follow the mukhda-antara format
>This was our answer and I am unclear how it actually differs from your
>rationale. Maybe, I am not understanding the meaning of the word
>"mukhda" correctly. If it just means the first lines/para of a song,
>with the remaining lines being the "antaras" then clearly every song
>follows the mukhda antara format. However, the way I understand it, a
>loose definition would be that a mukhda is (generally) the first few
>lines which are repeated at the end of each stanza. In which case
>"continuous verse" and "non repeating mukhdas" would mean the same
>thing, wouldn't it?
I must have missed Sanjeev's response in my "cut-n-paste" hurry to post the
answers. He says "Fine by me". Your alternate answer is therefore accepted.
>> Question 21
>> A. Ae mere pyaare watan--Kabuliwallah
>> B. Aao jhoome gaayen--Parayan Dhan
>> C. Tu pyaar ka saagar hai-- Seema
>> D. Dharti kahe pukar ke, mausam beeta jaaye--Do Bhiga Zameen
>> Answer: C
>> Rationale: All songs feature Balraj Sahani. However he does not sing the
>> words in A, B & D.
>What you are saying is that Balraj Sahni sings in "tu pyar ka saagar
>hai" but he does not in the others". Isn't this also reverse logic?
No. What I am saying is that Balraj Sahani does NOT sing the other 3 songs but
sings only the Seema song. I found that most people think he has sung even A &
D. I used to think that way too, hence I put in this question. However, to be
honest, I have struggled with this "reverse logic" bit and I am willing to
accept my mistake if someone can use some reverse reverse-logic to convince me
otherwise.
>> Question 27
>>
>> A. Saath ho tum aur raat jawan--Kanchi ki Gudiya
>> B. Tumko piya dil diya itne naaz se--Shikari
>> C. Tum bhi chalo hum bhi chale--Zameer
>> D. Mere mehboob qayamat hogi--Mr. X in Bombay
>
>Hey, we had given an answer to this as D with the rationale that the
>person/people on screen singing it can be seen on screen while singing
>it. No comments on that :)
But I did "see" the person who sings it on screen too. Ok, so they have made the
person appear in dark clothes as a ghost, but you still "see" the person.
Ketan
Ketan
AR says...>> Am posting the answers--NOT THE RESULTS--of the recently concluded RMIM M=
>eet
>> Quiz: Which Song Doesn't Belong. In all there were 10 entries received f=
>or this
>> quiz. Only 10 entries you say? Thank God, is what I say. Given what I hav=
>e gone
>> Question 2
>> A. Laga Chunri Men Daag =96 Dil Hi To Hai
>> B. Maine Shaayad Tumhen =96 Barsaat Ki Raat
>> C. Hamne Tujhko Pyaar Kiya =96 Dulha Dulhan
>> D. Mere Dushman Tu Meri =96 Aaye Din Bahaar Ke
>>
>> Answer: A
>> Rationale:_Songs B, C, and D sung in front of a microphone
>>
>
>I didn't attempt this quiz, but nevertheless I'm a bit curious to know
>whether the following would be considered a "right" answer:
>Song C is the odd man out because it is a male-female tandem, whereas
>all the others are male solos.
If it is a tandem song, it is a male solo too right? Hence it couldn't be the
right answer on that count. Also, it would be reverse logic by the rules of the
game.
Ketan
sancho
> >> A. Laga Chunri Men Daag =96 Dil Hi To Hai
> >> B. Maine Shaayad Tumhen =96 Barsaat Ki Raat
> >> C. Hamne Tujhko Pyaar Kiya =96 Dulha Dulhan
> >> D. Mere Dushman Tu Meri =96 Aaye Din Bahaar Ke
>
> >> Answer: A
> >> Rationale:_Songs B, C, and D sung in front of a microphone
>
> >I didn't attempt this quiz, but nevertheless I'm a bit curious to know whether the following would be considered a "right" answer:
> >Song C is the odd man out because it is a male-female tandem, whereas all the others are male solos.
>
> If it is a tandem song, it is a male solo too right? Hence it couldn't be the right answer on that count. Also, it would be reverse logic by the rules of the
> game.
>
> Ketan
I think you are being a little harsh here. If you can accept q29 where
you give the commonality being "tandem" songs then it's probably fair
to say that the reverse should work as well. And given the Balraj
Sahni question, you can't not accept the logic that "these are 'NOT'
tandem songs" is the common theme.
Actually the reverse logic can be slightly tricky and can lead to a
lot of debate. I guess the only way out is "Quizmaster's decision is
final"
Sancho
Ketan
sancho says...
>> >> Question 2
>> >> A. Laga Chunri Men Daag--Dil Hi To Hai
>> >> B. Maine Shaayad Tumhen--Barsaat Ki Raat
>> >> C. Hamne Tujhko Pyaar Kiya--Dulha Dulhan
>> >> D. Mere Dushman Tu Meri--Aaye Din Bahaar Ke
>>
>> >> Answer: A
>> >> Rationale:_Songs B, C, and D sung in front of =A0a microphone
>>
>> >I didn't attempt this quiz, but nevertheless I'm a bit curious to know
>> >whether the following would be considered a "right" answer:
>>>Song C is the odd man out because it is a male-female tandem, whereas all >>
>>>the others are male solos.
>> If it is a tandem song, it is a male solo too right? Hence it couldn't be
>>the right answer on that count. Also, it would be reverse logic by the rules >>
>>of the game.
>> Ketan
>I think you are being a little harsh here. If you can accept q29 where
>you give the commonality being "tandem" songs then it's probably fair
>to say that the reverse should work as well. And given the Balraj
>Sahni question, you can't not accept the logic that "these are 'NOT'
>tandem songs" is the common theme.
Q 29 deals with 3 songs that are tandem songs and the 4th which is not. Here the
logic supplied is that 1 song is tandem while the other 3 are male solos. Even
if you reverse this argument "3 songs are male solos, while one is a tandem", it
is still true that even the tandem has a male solo version. So what makes the
4th song the odd-one out? That it also has a female version? That is what
reverse logic is, isn't it? Besides, Sanjeev/Armeen's original rules also state
that you cannot use solos-duets etc as a reason to mark a song the "odd one
out". Hence my reason for disqualifying it.
>Actually the reverse logic can be slightly tricky and can lead to a
>lot of debate. I guess the only way out is "Quizmaster's decision is
>final"
Tell me about it. I went nuts deciphering some of the answers. The quizmaster in
this case was most confused.
Ketan
Arunabha
Thanks for the quiz and the follow-up which seems almost as
interesting. Here are some song-wise observations/doubts/questions.
> Question 1
> A. Nain Mile Nain Hue Baawre - Taraana
> B. Nain Mile Chain Kahaan - Basant Bahaar
> C. Dil Men Samaa Gaye - Sangdil
> D. Prem Jogan Banke - Mughal-e-Azam
> Alternate Answer: B: The other 3 have solo MD�s.
> Decision: Accepted: I was against accepting it, since MD�s like
> Husnlal-Bhagatram, S-J, L-P, K-A, Anand-Milind etc have normally been treated as
> a single entity on previous RMIM quizzes. I was overruled by Shalini and Sanjeev
> on this.
I would agree with you (Ketan) on this one. S-J being two composers is
far too facile an answer. Our goal was to find a possible end answer
or identifier that is "interesting" (to RMIMers only of course).
Another one that people often pick is "time period". So for example,
for some clue we came up with some criterion like these three are 60s
songs while that one is 70s, which we found too boring an answer. One
of your official answers is in fact related to time period: pre/post
partition which is possibly just ok.
> Question 2
> A. Laga Chunri Men Daag � Dil Hi To Hai
> B. Maine Shaayad Tumhen � Barsaat Ki Raat
> C. Hamne Tujhko Pyaar Kiya � Dulha Dulhan
> D. Mere Dushman Tu Meri � Aaye Din Bahaar Ke
> Alternate Answer: A. Since B, C & D are songs in which the heroine is part of
> the audience, whereas in A she is not part of the audience.
> Decision: Accepted.
> Sanjeev: Just curious, where is Nutan in �Laga Chunri Men Daag� (not on stage of
> course)?
Since our team came up with this, let me answer Sanjeev: Nutan isn't
anywhere in the song. IIRC, in the film she dispatches Pran to find
her a music teacher and he lands up at the concert where Raj Kapoor in
disguise fills in for the absent billed performer.
> Question 3
> A. Piya Piya Piya - Baap-Re-Baap
> B. Sexy Sexy Sexy Mujhe Log Bole - Khuddaar
> C. Ek Do Teen - Tezaab
> D. Chal Chal Chal Mere Saathi - Haathi Mere Saathi
For a while I was thinking of Satishji's old series "Read My Lips"
where there were anomalies between the song on screen and on record.
"sexy sexy sexy" was changed to Baby Baby Baby. Then the Baap Re Baap
had an anomaly wrt Asha's singing out of turn and I was hard pressed
to come up with a connection until the obvious answer hit.
> Question 4
> A. Yahan Badla Wafa Ka - Jugnu
> B. Dheere Dheere Aa Re - Kismat
> C. Meri Kahaani Bhoolne Waale - Deedaar
> D. Baalam Aaye Baso - Devdas
> Alternate Answer: C. Since, in A, B & D the singer and actor onscreen are the
> same OR Other three have (at least one) singer onscreen (NJ, Ameerbai, KLS)
> Decision: Debatable: Does Kismat have Ameerbai or Mumtaz Shanti? If it is
> Ameerbai, since it is not clear whether the Kismat song above refers to the one
> sung by Ashok Kumar(playback Arun Kumar Mukherjee) or the one sung by Ameerbai
> (playback Ameerbai), I would have to accept the answer. RMIMERS?
I was under the impression that the film version of "dhiire dhiire" is
sung by Ashok Kumar himself. I remember reading an Anil Biswas
interview where he made a light remark to the effect that "this was
the only song Ashok Kumar ever sang in tune". Have I got things
completely muddled here ?
> Question 7
> A. Deewaana Hua Baadal � Kashmir Ki Kali
> B. Mujhko Yaaro Maaf Karna � Main Nashe Men Hoon
> C. Laagi Chhoote Na Ab To Sanam � Kaali Topi Lal Rumaal
> D. Mujhko Is Raat Ki Tanhaai Men � Dil Bhi Tera Ham Bhi Tere
>
>
> Answer: B (Reminder: The quizmaster/mistress(?) are Sanjeev/Armeen. All teeth
> gnashing will therefore be forwarded to them).
> Sanjeev: Brickbats should be directed solely to me. Armeen fought me
> tooth-and-nail to not include this song, but my sadistic tendencies prevailed.
> :)
Ketan, I think we had asked you to thank Sanjeev (and Armeen) on our
behalf for the quiz. For this question please thump him as well, on
our behalf. ;-)
> Alternate Answer: C. �A, B, D are picturized on or near a waterfront ?�
> Decision: Debatable: I don�t know the picturization of C. B seems to be on/near
> a beach. However for D, the Dharmendra version is sung on a balcony. Where is
> the tandem version sung? RMIMers?
You are right, this was a total shot in the dark by us.
> Question 9
> A. Jaata Kahaan Hai - CID
> B. Chaand Maddham Hai - Railway Platform
> C. Kabhi Kabhi - Title Song
> D. Balma Khuli Hawaa Men - Kashmir Ki Kali
>
>
> Answer: C
> Rationale: Songs A, B, and D were omitted from their respective films
> Alternate Answer: C. A, B & D all belong to films that introduced one major
> actor each to Hindi films.
The alternate answer is pretty cool !!
> Question 10
> A. Savere Ka Sooraj - Ek Baar Muskuraado
> B. Dil Lagaakar Ham Ye Samjhe - Zindagi Aur Maut
> C. Mere Hamsafar - Refugee
> D. Tere Mere Milan Ki - Abhimaan
> Decision: Debatable: Yes, C does not have a piano, and D does, in a brief
> snippet, when Amitabh is shown practicing this song early on in the film. Don�t
> know the picturization of A & B so will refer it to RMIMERS?
Note: We were aware of the picturization of "dil lagaakar" thanks to
Shalini's youtube channel. (which is a wonderful upload anyhow without
its utility for this quiz)
> Question 18
> A. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Jawaan Mohabbat
> B. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Shah Jahaan
> C. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Veena
> D. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Aradhana
>
>
> Answer: A, B, C & D
> Rationale: Quizmaster(I am innocent�the quizmaster is Sanjeev) being obnoxious
> �5 points given for any answer! :)
Darn :-) I was so impressed by this question (I didn't know of the
other 2 versions) that I was expecting a real lateral thinking answer
for this one.
> Question 22
>
> A. Mehbooba Mehbooba--Sholay
> B. Jhoom jhoom ke jaaam chuum ke�Coffee House
> C. Jeevan ke safar main raahi--Munimji
> D. Chhoo kar mere man ko--Yaarana
> Alternate Answer: C-- A, B, D are copied songs/tunes. C being composed by SDB is
> in all likelihood copied but so far the source has not been discovered by
> RMIMers,so it is the odd one out
>
> Decision: Yo--Did you seriously think an answer that has a statement like �C
> being composed by SDB is in all likelihood copied� would win you brownie or any
> points with ME? Aren't you confusing baap and beta or do you think SDB liberally
> copies all tunes? You have some nerve! 50 points for being brave enough to come
> up with this rationale. Minus 150 for sending it to me. In any case--Not
> accepted. C is also copied. See i2fs. :)
So my intuition (of SDB having copied) was correct :-) Is there a good
SDB song which he has composed without reference to external media ;-)
> Question 26
>
> A. Aa humsafar pyaar ki sej par--Yasmeen
> B. Yeh dil aur unki nighahon ke saaye�Prem Parbat
> C. Mausam hai aashiqana�Pakeezaah
> D. Ae meri zohra jabeen�Waqt
>
> Answer: A
> Rationale: MDs in songs B, C & D were assistants who made a name as independent
> MDs. Basu-Manohari, never really made it as independent MDs.
Vandana hazarded a guess as to the common identity being that of
"haadasaa" songs - immediately after "ai merii zoharajabeen" an
earthquake strikes, after "mausam hai aashiqaanaa" elephants go on
rampage on the boat, and so on. Since no one we know has watched Prem
Parbat, she surmised that after the song Rehana Sultan probably
marries Shreeram Lagoo, a choice which is fair game as haadasaa. I
don't remember if we finally included this in our answers :-)
> Question 27
>
> A. Saath ho tum aur raat jawan�Kanchi ki Gudiya
> B. Tumko piya dil diya itne naaz se--Shikari
> C. Tum bhi chalo hum bhi chale--Zameer
> D. Mere mehboob qayamat hogi�Mr. X in Bombay
>
> Answer: D
> Rationale: A, B & C are composed by MD�s who were assistants of other famous
> MD�s but never made it big on their own. Kinda the reverse of Question 26.
This (lack of success) is certainly reverse logic (by your
definition). We saw two questions in succession featuring assistant
composers and tried to be too clever, guessing that the assistant
composer was a red herring for at leas one of them. Didn't know the
bit about LP being officially assistants to RDB.
Actually I don't have a big disagreement with the idea of "lack of
success" being a common criterion (though how much success counts as
success is debatable). But you seem to have discounted some other
team's entry which put "lack of instrumental music" as the common
feature. I think what is reverse logic is a bit hard to put down. e.g.
if someone claims that songs B, C, D are not by SJ whereas song A is
by SJ, that is clearly reverse logic, but in examples like the one you
have just above, the common absence of something can be quite a strong
identifying similarity. Anyway, your decision is final :-)
Lastly: these aren't meant by way of quibbling, just musing aloud. We
had great fun solving the quiz. And we gave youtube quite a number of
hits int he process.
-- Arunabha
cyberhunt
Yes, Navrang have a love triangle. The other two people involved in the love
triangle are Ameeta and Chaya Singh. By normal standard, Sahir can be call
as a lyricist. But by India Standard, he is not since most top lyricists in
India have many poems to their names. Traditionally, people think lyricists
are associated with poets. By this standard, Sahir is not a lyricist.
"Ketan" <Ketan_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:g67h2...@drn.newsguy.com...
Srinivas Ganti
> > Question 18
> > A. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Jawaan Mohabbat
> > B. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Shah Jahaan
> > C. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Veena
> > D. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Aradhana
>
> > Answer: A, B, C & D
> > Rationale: Quizmaster(I am innocent�the quizmaster is Sanjeev) being obnoxious
> > �5 points given for any answer! :)
>
> Darn :-) I was so impressed by this question (I didn't know of the
> other 2 versions) that I was expecting a real lateral thinking answer
> for this one.
This is how we approached the question at the meet. (It was a closed
book quiz unlike the online version and we had to exercise our brains
even more !)
We recognised B, C, D and guessed A as "ek naa ek din ye kahaanii
banegii tuu mere sapano.n kii raanii banegii"
but Sanjeev said no.
We asked him to sing the Jawaan Mohabbat song and he cudn't :)
So all got 5 points !
Srinivas.
surjit singh
> On Jul 23, 1:13 pm, Arunabha <roy.aruna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Question 18
> > > A. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Jawaan Mohabbat
> > > B. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Shah Jahaan
> > > C. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Veena
> > > D. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Aradhana
>
> > > Answer: A, B, C & D
> > > Rationale: Quizmaster(I am innocent�the quizmaster is Sanjeev) being obnoxious
> > > �5 points given for any answer! :)
Our team said B because this is the only song in which the name of the
Sapnon Ki Rani, viz. Roohi is mentioned! Got 5 points.
Vinaya...@gmail.com
A. Pyaar par bas to nahin—Sone Ki Chidiya
B. Mujhe jaan na kaho meri jaan--Anubhav
C. Jinhe naaz hai hind--Pyaasa
D. Hum hai mataa-e-kuchaa--Dastak
Answer: B
Rationale: A, C & D are songs whose lyrics appeared initially as a
poem.
Ktan and Sanjeev
I have a question regarding the Q 23. Was C a poem written before its
inclusion in Pyasa? As far as I know the original poem was "sanii
khvaane takadii se mashriiq kahaa.N hai" which Sahir simplified for
the sake of film as "jinhe.n naaz hai hi.nd par kahaa.N hai". Even
the antaras of the poem are different from those of "jinhe.n jaaz hai
hi.nd par"
If this is correct, then this song does not meet the criteria.
"kaaravaa.N guzar gayaa" or "dekhatii hii raho aaj darpan n tum" would
have been better choices.
Regards
Vinayak
Vinaya...@gmail.com
A. Pyaar par bas to nahin—Sone Ki Chidiya
B. Mujhe jaan na kaho meri jaan--Anubhav
C. Jinhe naaz hai hind--Pyaasa
D. Hum hai mataa-e-kuchaa--Dastak
Answer: B
Rationale: A, C & D are songs whose lyrics appeared initially as a
poem.
Ketan and Sanjeev
I have a question reagarding Q23. Was C a poem whose lyrics appeared
in the film? As far as I know the original poem was "sanii khvaane
taqdii se mashriiq kahaa.N hai" which Sahir simplified for the film as
"jinhe.n naaz hai". If this is true the song does not meet the
criteria. "kaaravaa.N guzar gayaa" or "dekhatii hii raho" would have
Vinaya...@gmail.com
after I posted, so posted again.
Vinayak
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
> On Jul 23, 1:13 pm, Arunabha <roy.aruna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Question 18
> > > A. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Jawaan Mohabbat
> > > B. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Shah Jahaan
> > > C. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Veena
> > > D. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Aradhana
>
> > > Answer: A, B, C & D
> > > Rationale: Quizmaster(I am innocent�the quizmaster is Sanjeev) being obnoxious
> > > �5 points given for any answer! :)
>
> > Darn :-) I was so impressed by this question (I didn't know of the
> > other 2 versions) that I was expecting a real lateral thinking answer
> > for this one.
>
> This is how we approached the question at the meet. (It was a closed
> book quiz unlike the online version and we had to exercise our brains
> even more !)
>
> We recognised B, C, D and guessed A as "ek naa ek din ye kahaanii
> banegii tuu mere sapano.n kii raanii banegii"
> but Sanjeev said no.
The song in question (A) is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1zm95C7vpk
>
> We asked him to sing the Jawaan Mohabbat song and he cudn't :)
>
> So all got 5 points !
*That's* not why you got the points...I knew you were thinking about
another song, I was having a block with the tune, but I did
successfully remember that it began "Mere Sapnon Ki Raani, Tum Nahin
Ho, Tum Nahin Ho". :-)
Sanjeev
Ketan
Vinaya...@gmail.com says...
>
>Question 23
>
>
>A. Pyaar par bas to nahin=97Sone Ki Chidiya
My source for this question was RMIM where this was mentioned in a thread that
took place earlier this month. Someone way back in Dec 1993,(see google
archives) also said that this appeared as a poem in his book "Talkhiyaan". Then
from Wikipedia, I gathered that Talkhiyaan was written around 1943 and published
in 1945. Since both these predate Pyaasa(1957) I assumed that it had appeared as
a poem first and then as the lyrics to the song. I was unaware of the original
poem or the exact words. My bad. As I mentioned, this has been a humbling,
educating process. I guess laziness and the familiarity of SDB crept in that
resulted in my picking this song over any other one.
Ketan
Srinivas Ganti
> Question 4
> A. Yahan Badla Wafa Ka - Jugnu
> B. Dheere Dheere Aa Re - Kismat
> C. Meri Kahaani Bhoolne Waale - Deedaar
> D. Baalam Aaye Baso - Devdas
>
> Answer: C
> Rationale: Songs A, B, and D are from films released before Partition
>
> Alternate Answer: C. Since, in A, B & D the singer and actor onscreen are the
> same OR Other three have (at least one) singer onscreen (NJ, Ameerbai, KLS)
>
> Decision: Debatable: Does Kismat have Ameerbai or Mumtaz Shanti? If it is
> Ameerbai, since it is not clear whether the Kismat song above refers to the one
> sung by Ashok Kumar(playback Arun Kumar Mukherjee) or the one sung by Ameerbai
> (playback Ameerbai), I would have to accept the answer. RMIMERS?
This is what I thought.
Answer B.
A, C, D have Dilip Kumar while B doesn't.
Ketan
Arunabha says...
>> Question 7
>> A. Deewaana Hua Baadal--Kashmir Ki Kali
>> B. Mujhko Yaaro Maaf Karna--Main Nashe Men Hoon
>> C. Laagi Chhoote Na Ab To Sanam--Kaali Topi Lal Rumaal
>> D. Mujhko Is Raat Ki Tanhaai Men--Dil Bhi Tera Ham Bhi Tere
>> Alternate Answer: C. A, B, D are picturized on or near a
>> waterfront?
>> Decision: Debatable: I don't know the picturization of C. B seems
>> to be on/near a beach. However for D, the Dharmendra version is sung on a
>> balcony. Where is the tandem version sung? RMIMers?
>You are right, this was a total shot in the dark by us.
Not so fast. I finally managed to see the tandem version picturized on Kumkum.
She is on crutches and sings the song on an obvious indoor set. However the set
has boats in it and during the interludes is an outdoor shot of the sea with
crashing waves. So it seems that it must be near the sea/waterfront. What I am
not sure about is B. It is a set, however it seems like a garden not a
waterfront set. I haven't seen the movie, so I have no idea where this song is
supposed to have taken place in the movie.
>> Question 22
>>
>> A. Mehbooba Mehbooba--Sholay
>> B. Jhoom jhoom ke jaaam chuum ke=EF=BF=BDCoffee House
>> C. Jeevan ke safar main raahi--Munimji
>> D. Chhoo kar mere man ko--Yaarana
>So my intuition (of SDB having copied) was correct :-) Is there a good
>SDB song which he has composed without reference to external media ;-)
We haven't found the original sources of all his songs, so until then he is
innocent :)
>> Question 27
>>
>> A. Saath ho tum aur raat jawan--Kanchi ki Gudiya
>> B. Tumko piya dil diya itne naaz se--Shikari
>> C. Tum bhi chalo hum bhi chale--Zameer
>> D. Mere mehboob qayamat hogi--Mr. X in Bombay
>>
>> Answer: D
>> Rationale: A, B & C are composed by MD's who were assistants of other famous
>> MD's but never made it big on their own. Kinda the reverse of Question 26.
>This (lack of success) is certainly reverse logic (by your
>definition).
Yes! But it's a neat one isn't it. I did you guys a favour, preventing you from
picking an answer with reverse logic, by putting it in the question. That's why
I put them back-to-back, thinking atleast someone would get the linkage.
>Actually I don't have a big disagreement with the idea of "lack of
>success" being a common criterion (though how much success counts as
>success is debatable). But you seem to have discounted some other
>team's entry which put "lack of instrumental music" as the common
That would be for Question 6:
A. Main Ye Soch Kar - Haqeeqat
B. Ek Raaje Ka Beta – President
C. Kaari Kaari Kaari Andhiyaari Ki Raat – Navrang
D. Mitwa - Devdas
Not that you mention, I admit, there is a case of "minimal music"(as the answer
was given by the participant) being a common theme. However I went back and
heard the 3 songs this evening. This gets tricky. What is "minimal music"? B for
instance has exactly the same kind of music that you find in every song in the
1930s. So are you comparing it to an ARR song and then saying it is minimal
music? D, has music in the interludes--low key--but we are talking of minimal,
not low-key. So yes, maybe it is not reverse-logic, but I would have still not
accepted the alternate answer on the "minimal music" ground.
>feature. I think what is reverse logic is a bit hard to put down. e.g.
>if someone claims that songs B, C, D are not by SJ whereas song A is
>by SJ, that is clearly reverse logic, but in examples like the one you
>have just above, the common absence of something can be quite a strong
>identifying similarity. Anyway, your decision is final :-)
Like you, I admit I struggled with this reverse-logic thing. To cite one
example, for Question 22:
A. Mehbooba Mehbooba--Sholay
B. Jhoom jhoom ke jaaam chuum ke—Coffee House
C. Jeevan ke safar main raahi--Munimji
D. Chhoo kar mere man ko--Yaarana
One participant gave the answer as A--since the common theme in B, C, D is that
they are not sung by the MD, whereas A is. At first glance it seems like reverse
logic. Then I had doubts. Finally I decided to go with my first hunch(though
only after hearing some choice words about MY poor logic skills from my
beta-tester and answer checker)and classified it as reverse logic.
>Lastly: these aren't meant by way of quibbling, just musing aloud. We
>had great fun solving the quiz. And we gave youtube quite a number of
>hits int he process.
Hey, keep the comments/criticism coming. I welcome it if it helps me do a better
job the next time.
Ketan
Abhay Phadnis
> Combining responses to Abhay and Sancho(Sanjeev)
>
> Abhay Phadnis says...
>
> >> Question 2
> >>Alternate Answer: D: A, B & C have a question in their mukhda, while D does >>
> >>not.
>
> >> Sanjeev: Nope. B is phrased as an assertion IMO, as in "Perhaps I have
> >> seen you somewhere before, not "Have I seen you somewhere before?" Contrast
> >> with later in the song, "Tum Wohi Mere Khayaalon Ki Pari Ho Ke Nahin?"
> >> Decision: I am inclined to agree with Sanjeev unless someone has a more
> >> convincing argument.
>
> >Not our answer but...if you just say "A, B, and C contain questions
> >while D does not", would that be acceptable?
>
> Personally..that's still a pretty thin argument. You would have to prove that D
> does not have even a hint of a question. I looked for the lyrics on Giitayan but
> it does not have "Mere Dushamn tu meri.." from Aaye Din Bahar Ke, so cannot
But giitaayan does have the lyrics - http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/rmim/giitaayan/cisb/1196.isb
- I checked there before I suggested this wording for the answer. No
hint of a question anywhere: just a steady stream of "bad-du_aa" that
is perhaps unparalleled in Hindi film music.
> >> Question 4
> >> Alternate Answer: C. Since, in A, B & D the singer and actor onscreen are=
> >>the same OR Other three have (at least one) singer onscreen (NJ, Ameerbai, >>
> >>KLS)
> >> Decision: Debatable: Does Kismat have Ameerbai or Mumtaz Shanti? If it is
> >>Ameerbai, since it is not clear whether the Kismat song above refers to the >>
> >>one sung by Ashok Kumar(playback Arun Kumar Mukherjee) or the one sung by
> >> Ameerbai(playback Ameerbai), I would have to accept the answer. RMIMERS?
> >This was guesswork based on a vague memory of having read about
> >Ameerbai featuring in the movie. If that is not correct, our answer is
> >of course wrong. An alternative answer (too late for 'competitive'
> >consideration, of course!) could be that A, B, and D have at least one
> >singer who is a bona fide singer-actor while C does not - workable?
>
> If you mean Ameerbai is the bonafide singer-actor, well yes it would be ok. If
> you mean Ashok Kumar as the bonafide singer-actor, I could not grant it since he
> is there even in C- Deedar.
I did indeed mean Ameerbai. Coming back to our original rationale,
however: elsewhere on this thread, Arunabha says the film version is
sung by Ashok Kumar and not by Arun Kumar. If that is indeed the case,
then our rationale holds albeit with a change in the names we have in
parentheses. (Talk of clutching at straws!!)
>
> >> Question 6
(snip)
> Does Navrang have a love triangle?
>
Although the love triangle in "Navrang" is virtual, it is a key part
of the story. Here is a link to a review of the film: you can judge
for yourself.
http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/jun/13dinesh.htm
In our view it is indeed about a love triange, although the muse the
hero chases turns out ultimately to be his wife. (This is *not*
clutching at straws - it is an opinion held independent of this quiz.)
> >> Question 7
(snip)
> I did receive your addendum. However onhttp://www.shbihari.com/Welcome.html, I
> found that he has written love poems. Not that I have read any, but if someone
> from ALUP can disprove that, then I will grant you the points.
I thought your original post included *all* the alternatives sent by
the participants and thus assumed you had not received our last mail.
Coming back to our rationale, we had said that the others - barring S
H Bihari - were *well-known* for their *non-film poetry* too. I don't
think one can say that S H Bihari was well-known as a poet outside
films; Shamim Jaipuri and Majrooh Sultanpuri were very well-known for
their non-film poetry too, as was Hasrat Jaipuri although he was not
regarded as being in their class. It might be useful (although by no
means definitive) to look at Nita's Urdu poetry website: while Shamim,
Majrooh, and Hasrat have their non-film poetry featured on the site,
there is no mention of S H Bihari anywhere.
> >> Question 18
> >> A. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Jawaan Mohabbat
> >> B. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Shah Jahaan
> >> C. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Veena
> >> D. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Aradhana
>
> >The other one in our missed mail - the odd one out is A, because
> >(repeating our logic in Question 1!) this is by an MD pair while the
> >others are by solo MDs.
>
> Yup, you are right. In any case everyone got 5 points for this one.
Just realised there is another answer - silly but defensible: B, C,
and D are from films whose titles, while not eponymous, are people's
names; A is not! :)
>
> >> Question 26
(snip)
> >- D, because the other songs are picturised on the romantic lead in
> >those films while this is picturised on a 'character actor'.
> >Unless the "Yasmeen/Chatpatee" song is picturised on a "side" actor,
> >surely the last answer above should hold!
>
> I don't know who it was picturized on but it is likely it was picturized on the
> lead pair. However since you had provided 3 answers--D, D and A, I was a nice
> guy and picked A, since you would atleast get 2 points, even if your rationale
> was wrong. If you like I will accept D and cancel those 2 points. Your call :)
I thought you could pick as many answers as were correct - if the lead
pair answer is treated as correct, we should get points for both
answers, right? ;)
Warm regards,
Abhay
Abhay Phadnis
(snip)
> > Question 26
>
> > A. Aa humsafar pyaar ki sej par--Yasmeen
> > B. Yeh dil aur unki nighahon ke saaye�Prem Parbat
> > C. Mausam hai aashiqana�Pakeezaah
> > D. Ae meri zohra jabeen�Waqt
>
> > Answer: A
> > Rationale: MDs in songs B, C & D were assistants who made a name as independent
> > MDs. Basu-Manohari, never really made it as independent MDs.
>
> Vandana hazarded a guess as to the common identity being that of
> "haadasaa" songs - immediately after "ai merii zoharajabeen" an
> earthquake strikes, after "mausam hai aashiqaanaa" elephants go on
> rampage on the boat, and so on.
The sequence goes the other way - the song is *after* the elephant
rampage.
> Since no one we know has watched Prem
> Parbat, she surmised that after the song Rehana Sultan probably
> marries Shreeram Lagoo, a choice which is fair game as haadasaa.
It was Nana Palshikar. Still a "haadasaa", of course, perhaps an even
bigger one! :)
Warm regards,
Abhay
sancho
> In article <7be956e4-b7a9-4ca9-b4e5-18d485a5c...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
> Vinayak.G...@gmail.com says...
>
> - Show quoted text -
In my opinion this is perfectly ok. Other than the main line (which I
believe was changed on guru dutt's insistence that it was too
difficult to understand - maybe others can shed more light on this)
there are in fact, a few other changes e.g.
"tanaffus kii ulajhan pe tabale kii dhan-dhan" becomes "thaki haari
saanson pe tabale..."
"ta'affun se pur niim_roshan ye galiyaa.N" becomes "ye sadiyo.n se
bekhauf sahamii sI galiyaa.n" (I must admit I don't know what the
original means)
But so much of "Chakale" (the original poem in Talkhiyaan") and
"Jinhen naaz hai hind par" is identical that it just doesn't make
sense to say that they are not the same poem.
For those interested you can compare the two at http://www.urdupoetry.com/sahir04.html
and http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/rmim/giitaayan/cisb/883.isb
Sancho
Ketan
Abhay Phadnis says...
>> >Not our answer but...if you just say "A, B, and C contain questions
>> >while D does not", would that be acceptable?
>>
>> Personally..that's still a pretty thin argument. You would have to prove
>>that D does not have even a hint of a question. I looked for the lyrics on >>
>>Giitayan but it does not have "Mere Dushamn tu meri.." from Aaye Din Bahar >>
>>Ke, so cannot
>- I checked there before I suggested this wording for the answer. No
>hint of a question anywhere: just a steady stream of "bad-du_aa" that
>is perhaps unparalleled in Hindi film music.
Agreed, it is full of 'gaalis', but since the answer you speak of was not
supplied in the original submission, it is a moot point.
>I did indeed mean Ameerbai. Coming back to our original rationale,
>however: elsewhere on this thread, Arunabha says the film version is
>sung by Ashok Kumar and not by Arun Kumar. If that is indeed the case,
>then our rationale holds albeit with a change in the names we have in
>parentheses. (Talk of clutching at straws!!)
But giitayaan and HFGK both say it is Arun Kumar. See
http://thaxi.hsc.usc.edu/rmim/giitaayan/cisb/2815.isb.
Those sources should be the last straw :)
>>
>> >> Question 6
>(snip)
>> Does Navrang have a love triangle?
>Although the love triangle in "Navrang" is virtual, it is a key part
>of the story. Here is a link to a review of the film: you can judge
>for yourself.
>
>http://www.rediff.com/entertai/2002/jun/13dinesh.htm
>In our view it is indeed about a love triange, although the muse the
>hero chases turns out ultimately to be his wife. (This is *not*
>clutching at straws - it is an opinion held independent of this quiz.)
Part of me wants to agree with you and part of me says "Eh what?" If fantasies
(which is essentially what Mahipal has) are taken into account, every man and
woman on this planet will be accused of infedility, bigamy, two-timing etc. Do
we want a President Carter like situation who confessed during the 1976 (or was
it 1980?) campaign that he was a sinner because he had had dreams of another
woman. He was ridiculed for that statement and doubts were cast on his mental
abilities. Mahipal is pretty much in that same territory.
>I thought your original post included *all* the alternatives sent by
>the participants and thus assumed you had not received our last mail.
Oh no. There were just way too many alternatives. I did check the veracity of
all the alternatives but if I included them all, it would have taken me another
week to compile the answers post. Some people, you know, sent it multiple
answers for each question :)
>Coming back to our rationale, we had said that the others - barring S
>H Bihari - were *well-known* for their *non-film poetry* too. I don't
>think one can say that S H Bihari was well-known as a poet outside
>films; Shamim Jaipuri and Majrooh Sultanpuri were very well-known for
>their non-film poetry too, as was Hasrat Jaipuri although he was not
>regarded as being in their class. It might be useful (although by no
>means definitive) to look at Nita's Urdu poetry website: while Shamim,
>Majrooh, and Hasrat have their non-film poetry featured on the site,
>there is no mention of S H Bihari anywhere.
But that could be just an oversight on Nita's part or she might have excluded
SHB because she does not like him. As an example, if Vinay were to ever set up a
tribute page for lyricists, trust me, the first person he would exclude is Anand
Bakshi, never mind his substantial body of work :) Allright..I am soooo going to
punt this to Sanjeev to decide, since he is the original quizmaster.
>> >> Question 18
>> >> A. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Jawaan Mohabbat
>> >> B. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Shah Jahaan
>> >> C. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Veena
>> >> D. Mere Sapnon Ki Rani - Aradhana
>Just realised there is another answer - silly but defensible: B, C,
>and D are from films whose titles, while not eponymous, are people's
>names; A is not! :)
Probably the second best answer I have heard for this question. The best was
ofcourse mine--D, since the others don't really count when you write the history
of HFM. :)
>> >> Question 26
>I thought you could pick as many answers as were correct - if the lead
>pair answer is treated as correct, we should get points for both
>answers, right? ;)
Yeah right! Since I have not see either Yasmeen or Prem Parbat, all I can say is
"Not happening", unless someone comes up with a definite answer to back you that
both of those were on the lead pair. Till then you get only 2 points. You would
be justified in screaming "We wuz robbed", but only if you still lose in the
final results, which I am hoping to put out by the weekend, assuming we are done
with the defense of the alternate answers.
Ketan
Abhay Phadnis
(snip)
> Yeah right! Since I have not see either Yasmeen or Prem Parbat, all I can say is
> "Not happening", unless someone comes up with a definite answer to back you that
> both of those were on the lead pair. Till then you get only 2 points. You would
> be justified in screaming "We wuz robbed", but only if you still lose in the
> final results, which I am hoping to put out by the weekend, assuming we are done
> with the defense of the alternate answers.
[With the closing statement that the "Prem Parbat" song is picturised
on the heroine of the movie, Rehana Sultan,] the defense rests,
milord.
Warm regards,
Abhay
Abhay Phadnis
> "Not happening", unless someone comes up with a definite answer to back you that
> both of those were on the lead pair. Till then you get only 2 points. You would
> be justified in screaming "We wuz robbed", but only if you still lose in the
> final results, which I am hoping to put out by the weekend, assuming we are done
> with the defense of the alternate answers.
[With the closing statement that the "Prem Parbat" song is picturised
vijay...@my-deja.com
> angles. I hope the participants did too.
>
I did...thanks for reproducing the meet quiz (that I had missed at
the meet itself...and for adding on the extra section
> ===========================================================================
> SECTION 1
> ===========================================================================
>
> Question 3
> A. Piya Piya Piya - Baap-Re-Baap
> B. Sexy Sexy Sexy Mujhe Log Bole - Khuddaar
> C. Ek Do Teen - Tezaab
> D. Chal Chal Chal Mere Saathi - Haathi Mere Saathi
>
> Answer: C
> Rationale: Mukhdas of songs A, B, and D begin with a “threepeat”-ed word
>
The other songs that I can think of that *do* belong to this group are
- ruk ruk ruk kahaa.N chalii diivaanii
- Tim Tim Tim taaro.n ke diip jale
another song with a three-peat in the mukha.Daa is
- nazaro.n ke tiir maare kas kas kas
> Question 4
> A. Yahan Badla Wafa Ka - Jugnu
> B. Dheere Dheere Aa Re - Kismat
> C. Meri Kahaani Bhoolne Waale - Deedaar
> D. Baalam Aaye Baso - Devdas
>
> Answer: C
> Rationale: Songs A, B, and D are from films released before Partition
>
> Alternate Answer: C. Since, in A, B & D the singer and actor onscreen are the
> same OR Other three have (at least one) singer onscreen (NJ, Ameerbai, KLS)
>
I guess I covered my bases by having both answers!
>
> Question 7
> A. Deewaana Hua Baadal – Kashmir Ki Kali
> B. Mujhko Yaaro Maaf Karna – Main Nashe Men Hoon
> C. Laagi Chhoote Na Ab To Sanam – Kaali Topi Lal Rumaal
> D. Mujhko Is Raat Ki Tanhaai Men – Dil Bhi Tera Ham Bhi Tere
>
> Alternate Answer: D—A, B & C are all songs that have featured as movie titles.
> Decision: Debatable: I don’t recall a movie title for C. RMIMers?
>
And you recall a movie title for A & B?
> Sanjeev: Is someone by chance thinking of the Bhojpuri film “Laagi Naahi Chhoote
> Raama”? Close, but not an exact match
>
That was my guess... and I was kinda thinking of the Chitragupt
blockbuster.
But I felt that someone simply *had to* have used the other songs as
well...
As far as I can *now* verify, the closest is Deewane Hue Paagal, and
no
match for Mujko Yaaro Maaf Karna.
>
> Question 13
> A. Saaz Ho Tum – Saaz Aur Awaaz
> B. Geet Tere Saaz Ka - Inteqaam
> C. Chheda Mere Dil Ne – Asli Naqli
> D. Rimjhim Ke Taraane Leke – Kala Bazaar
>
> Answer: D
> Rationale: The very first lines of songs A, B, and C contain the words “Saaz”
> and “Awaaz”
>
Where in "C" do Saaz and Aawaz feature? Unless it is in a prelude ...
>
> Question 15
> A. Nain Tumhaare Mazedaar - Junglee
> B. Ajhun Na Aaye – Sanjh Aur Savera
> C. Ae Dil Hai Mushkil - CID
> D. Do Sitaaron Ka Zameen Par - Kohinoor
>
> Answer: D
> Rationale: Songs A. B. And C picturized on “sidey” couples
In fact, the songs are featured on "comedians" Anoop Kumar, Mehmood
and Johnny Walker.
> Question 20
> A. Zikr Hota Hai Jab - My Love
> B. Phir Teri Kahaani Yaad Aayi - Dil Diya Dard Liya
> C. Har Dil Jo Pyaar Karega - Sangam
> D. Deewaana Mujhsa Nahin - Teesri Manzil
>
> Answer: A
> Rationale: Songs B, C, and D were later used as movie titles
>
> Alternate Answer: B—A, C & D feature a Kapoor sibling each
> Decision: Accepted
>
> Alternate Answer: D--A, B, C are sung by the actor to a heroine in love with
> some other person
> Decision: Not accepted. Both Shalini and Sanjeev who have seen DDDL disagree
> about there being a love-triange.
>
Dil diya Dard Liya is loosely based on Wuthering Heights. In the
original book,
Cathy weds Edgar Linton, with Heathcliff forming the imposing third
angle.
Out of spite, Heathcliff marries Isabella, Edgar Linton's sister. In
the
film, Dilip Kumar plays Heathcliff, Waheeda is Cathy to Rehman's Edgar
Linton,
and Shyama is Isabella. Only, this being a Hindi film, the original
alliances
are restored, Dilip Kumar has his revenge on Pran (Hindley) and
marries
Waheeda for all to have a happy ending instead of dying a tormented
soul like
Heathcliff in the book. IMO, Waheeda being engaged to Rehman is enough
of a
love-triangle.
> ===========================================================================
> SECTION 2
> ===========================================================================
>
> Question 21
> A. Ae mere pyaare watan—Kabuliwallah
> B. Aao jhoome gaayen—Parayan Dhan
> C. Tu pyaar ka saagar hai-- Seema
> D. Dharti kahe pukar ke…mausam beeta jaaye—Do Bhiga Zameen
>
> Answer: C
> Rationale: All songs feature Balraj Sahani. However he does not sing the words
> in A, B & D.
>
> Alternate Answer: C—A, B & D are based on a Bengali short story while C is not.
> Decision: Debatable: RMIMERS?
>
I know A & D are. The question is B. HFGK probably has a footnote.
>
> Question 23
>
> A. Pyaar par bas to nahin—Sone Ki Chidiya
> B. Mujhe jaan na kaho meri jaan--Anubhav
> C. Jinhe naaz hai hind--Pyaasa
> D. Hum hai mataa-e-kuchaa--Dastak
>
> Answer: B
> Rationale: A, C & D are songs whose lyrics appeared initially as a poem.
>
My alternate answer is that B, C, & D involve the red-light district,
directly
or by reference. C & D certainly do. The guess was about Anubhav. What
is
the film context of that song?
>
> Question 30
>
> A. Tu cheez badi hai mast mast--Mohra
> B. Papa kehte hain bada naam—Qayamat se qayamat tak
> C. Main dil hoon ek armaan bhara--Anhonee
> D. Tumse milke dil ka hai jo haal—Main Hoon Na
>
> Answer: C
> Rationale: A, B & D all have MD’s whose father was a famous MD. C has a son who
> is a famous MD.
>
> Alternate Answer: C—all the other songs feature or have dance performances.
> Decision: Accepted
D-uh. That was my recent RJGK and I did not even think of that angle!
Thanks Ketan, Sanjeev & Armeen for a wonderful quiz.
Vijay
Arunabha
> On Jul 23, 8:00 pm, Ketan <Ketan_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> > >> Question 4
> > >> Alternate Answer: C. Since, in A, B & D the singer and actor onscreen are the same OR Other three have (at least one) singer onscreen (NJ, Ameerbai,
KLS)
> > >> Decision: Debatable: Does Kismat have Ameerbai or Mumtaz Shanti? If it is Ameerbai, since it is not clear whether the Kismat song above refers to the one sung by Ashok Kumar(playback Arun Kumar Mukherjee) or the one sung by Ameerbai(playback Ameerbai), I would have to accept the answer. RMIMERS?
> I did indeed mean Ameerbai. Coming back to our original rationale,
> however: elsewhere on this thread, Arunabha says the film version is
> sung by Ashok Kumar and not by Arun Kumar. If that is indeed the case,
> then our rationale holds albeit with a change in the names we have in
> parentheses. (Talk of clutching at straws!!)
I had to make sure of this after all the debate, just to ensure I am
not losing it ! The Sharad Dutt book lists both Arun Kumar Mukherjee
and Ashok Kumar independently as singers of the Kismat duet, each with
Ameerbai. The note under Arun Kumar states that the film version is by
Ashok Kumar, while the record is by Arun Kumar. The anecdote I was
referring to is included in an article on AB at this site, accompanied
by an artist's sketch of Anil Biswas where he is not at all
recognizable:
http://www.4to40.com/legends/index.asp?id=1022
Only on RMIM can we continue to discuss such arcane trivia with such
relish and participation :-)
-- Arunabha
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
deja.com> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 4:58 pm, Ketan <Ketan_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for participating. I definitely had fun looking at this from multiple
> > angles. I hope the participants did too.
>
> I did...thanks for reproducing the meet quiz (that I had missed at
> the meet itself...and for adding on the extra section
>
> > ===========================================================================
> > SECTION 1
Yup, it's the prelude:
"Pyaar Ka Saaz Bhi Hai, Dil Ki Aawaaz Bhi Hai
Mere Geeton Men Tum Hi Tum Ho, Mujhe Naaz Bhi Hai"
Sanjeev
Ketan
vijay...@my-deja.com says...
>> Question 7
>> A. Deewaana Hua Baadal--Kashmir Ki Kali
>> B. Mujhko Yaaro Maaf Karna--Main Nashe Men Hoon
>> C. Laagi Chhoote Na Ab To Sanam--Kaali Topi Lal Rumaal
>> D. Mujhko Is Raat Ki Tanhaai Men--Dil Bhi Tera Ham Bhi Tere
>That was my guess... and I was kinda thinking of the Chitragupt
>blockbuster.
>But I felt that someone simply *had to* have used the other songs as
>well...
>As far as I can *now* verify, the closest is Deewane Hue Paagal, and
>no match for Mujko Yaaro Maaf Karna.
Actually I confused one Shammi Kapoor song with another one in this case. I
thought Deewana Mujh Sa Nahi(1990), starring Aamir and Madhuri was called
"Deewana Hua Badal". Using Ultraindia's filmography plus HFGK, I couldn't find a
movie with the title in B, and kinda guessed you were shooting
at the Chitragupt movie in C, but wanted to confirm it incase I had got it
wrong.
>> Question 20
>> A. Zikr Hota Hai Jab - My Love
>> B. Phir Teri Kahaani Yaad Aayi - Dil Diya Dard Liya
>> C. Har Dil Jo Pyaar Karega - Sangam
>> D. Deewaana Mujhsa Nahin - Teesri Manzil
>> Alternate Answer: D--A, B, C are sung by the actor to a heroine in love
> with some other person
>> Decision: Not accepted. Both Shalini and Sanjeev who have seen DDDL disagree
>> about there being a love-triange.
> Dil diya Dard Liya is loosely based on Wuthering Heights. In the
> original book, Cathy weds Edgar Linton, with Heathcliff forming the imposing
> third angle. Out of spite, Heathcliff marries Isabella, Edgar Linton's
> sister. In the film, Dilip Kumar plays Heathcliff, Waheeda is Cathy to
>Rehman's Edgar Linton, and Shyama is Isabella. Only, this being a Hindi film, >
>the original alliances are restored, Dilip Kumar has his revenge on Pran
>(Hindley) and marries Waheeda for all to have a happy ending instead of dying >
>a tormented soul like Heathcliff in the book. IMO, Waheeda being engaged to
> Rehman is enough of a love-triangle.
Ok..and does "My Love" have a love triangle? Maybe you should say "My Love" does
not have a triangle, since in "Teesri Manzil", we have Shammi Kapoor who loves
Asha Parekh, who in turn (pretends to) love Salim Khan--so there you have it,
one more love triangle. :)
>> Question 21
>> A. Ae mere pyaare watan--Kabuliwallah
>> B. Aao jhoome gaayen--Parayan Dhan
>> C. Tu pyaar ka saagar hai-- Seema
>> D. Dharti kahe pukar ke, mausam beeta jaaye--Do Bhiga Zameen
>> Alternate Answer: C- A, B & D are based on a Bengali short story while C
> is not.
>> Decision: Debatable: RMIMERS?
>>
>I know A & D are. The question is B. HFGK probably has a footnote.
Nope no footnote. Sorry can't accept it. Furthermore, to respond to another
quizzer, who said SapanC started off as an independent MD with "Naya Nasha" in
1973, and then became RD's assistant, in 1974--no. As I had mentioned, SapanC is
indeed the Asst. MD for Paraya Dhan back in 1971 itself. HFGK lists him along
with Manohari as the assistant.
>> Question 23
>>
>> A. Pyaar par bas to nahin--Sone Ki Chidiya
>> B. Mujhe jaan na kaho meri jaan--Anubhav
>> C. Jinhe naaz hai hind--Pyaasa
>> D. Hum hai mataa-e-kuchaa--Dastak
>>
>> Answer: B
>> Rationale: A, C & D are songs whose lyrics appeared initially as a poem.
>My alternate answer is that B, C, & D involve the red-light district,
>directly or by reference. C & D certainly do. The guess was about Anubhav. What
>is the film context of that song?
From what I remember seeing the movie, it is just a domestic husband-wife scene,
where Tanuja sings this song. AFAIR, there is no context of red-light areas in
this song.
Ketan
Vish Krishnan
......
> Question 7
> A. Deewaana Hua Baadal – Kashmir Ki Kali
> B. Mujhko Yaaro Maaf Karna – Main Nashe Men Hoon
> C. Laagi Chhoote Na Ab To Sanam – Kaali Topi Lal Rumaal
> D. Mujhko Is Raat Ki Tanhaai Men – Dil Bhi Tera Ham Bhi Tere
......
> Alternate Answer: D—A, B & C are all songs that have featured as movie titles.
> Decision: Debatable: I don’t recall a movie title for C. RMIMers?
>
> Sanjeev: Is someone by chance thinking of the Bhojpuri film “Laagi Naahi Chhoote
> Raama”? Close, but not an exact match
That is not how it was. The alternate answer was C. The movie titles
for A, B and D are phrases used in the opening lines of other songs
*not* from the same respective movies, or, in one case, not from any
movie (the reference was to Lata's "kashmir ki kali" from JUNGLEE, CH
Atma's non-film "yaaro mujhe maaf karo mai.n nashe mei.n hoo.N" and
Lata's "dil bhi tera hum bhi tere" from TAKSAAL).
cheers
vish