Sangeeta swarangal (From Tamil movie "Azhagan")
Vandana Venkatesan
I recently watched K. Balachander's "Azhagan" starring Mammootty,
Bhanupriya, Geeta and Madhu Raghunath and thought I would post about a song
I absolutely loved.
The music is by Maragadhamani, who according to my source of information,
is the same as Keeravani in the Telugu film world, who composed the music
for "Kshanakshanam".
"Azhagan" is about a middle-aged widower with 3 kids (played by Mammootty)
and his relationship with three women. Geeta is his tutor, the woman he
respects and looks up to. Bhanupriya is his friend, one with whom he can
discuss music and arts endlessly. And Madhu is just a cute kid with a
massive crush on him, who hangs around at his place because she is a pal of
his kids. Despite being an interesting story, K. Balachander's handling of
the story left a little to be desired.
The song is beautifully composed and plays in the background when Mammotty
and Bhanupriya are on the phone discussing music and arts. It ends with
the opening tune of Doordarshan, indicating they have been talking all
night.
There are very few songs where the lyrics fit in so poetically in the
context of the picturization. Take the opening line:
"Sangeetha swarangal ezhe kaNNakka, innum irukka?"
i.e. "Are there just seven swaras in music or are there more?" Strange
question, it might seem, but I would say it is just a poetic way of saying
"What the hell is there to talk about all night?!" The song is written as
a duet, but sometimes the two parts appear to be conversing with each other
and sometimes they are just busy with their independent thoughts, which I
found very interesting.
M: sangeetha swarangal ezhe kanakka? innum irukka? ennavo mayakkam
F: en veettil iravu, ange irava? ille pagala? ennakkum mayakkam
M: nenjil ennavo ninaichen
F: naanum dhan ninaichen
M: nyabagam varala
F: yosicha teriyum
M: yosanai varala
F: thoongina vilangum
M: thookam dhan varala
F: paduren meduva urangu
M: sangeetha swarangal ezhe kanakka? innum irukka? ennavo mayakkam
F: en veettil iravu, ange irava? ille pagala? ennakkum mayakkam
M: endhendha idangal, thottal swarangal,
thullum sugangal, konjam nee solli tha
F: swargathil irundhu yaaro ezhudhum
kaadhal kadidham inru dhan vandhadhu
M: swargam vinnile pirakka
F: naayagan oruvan
M: naayagi oruthi
F: then mazhai pozhiya
M: poo udal nanaiya
F: kaamanin sabhayil
M: kadhalin suvaiyil
F: paadidum kavidhai sugam dhan
F: sangeetha swarangal ezhe kanakka? innum irukka? ennavo mayakkam
M: en veettil iravu, ange irava? ille pagala? ennakkum mayakkam
Vandana.
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Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon
vven...@pcocd2.intel.com (Vandana Venkatesan) writes:
> The music is by Maragadhamani, who according to my source of
> information, is the same as Keeravani in the Telugu film world, who
> composed the music for "Kshanakshanam".
Looks like keeping track of his name is going to be a tedious
job (or maybe it already is...). Here goes ---
Telugu M M Keeravani
Hindi M M Kreem
Tamil Maragadhamani
Do we expect one for every language of the films he provides
music to?
> There are very few songs where the lyrics fit in so poetically in
> the context of the picturization. Take the opening line:
> "Sangeetha swarangal ezhe kaNNakka, innum irukka?"
> i.e. "Are there just seven swaras in music or are there more?"
> Strange question, it might seem, but I would say it is just a poetic
> way of saying "What the hell is there to talk about all night?!"
> The song is written as a duet, but sometimes the two parts appear to
> be conversing with each other and sometimes they are just busy with
> their independent thoughts, which I found very interesting.
< Supposedly wonderful lyrics snipped >
One will appreciate the lyrics greatly if a translation is
provided, please... :-) Right now they are Tamil to me.
Ciao,
ND
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Vandana Venkatesan
Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon (desh...@isip05.isip.msstate.edu) wrote:
: > The music is by Maragadhamani, who according to my source of
: > information, is the same as Keeravani in the Telugu film world, who
: > composed the music for "Kshanakshanam".
:
: Looks like keeping track of his name is going to be a tedious
: job (or maybe it already is...). Here goes ---
:
: Telugu M M Keeravani
: Hindi M M Kreem
: Tamil Maragadhamani
This is interesting. What are the movies he composed for in Hindi and
how is the music? The music of both "Azhagan" and "Kshanakshanam" is
great. Was "Kshanakshanam" his debut movie? I do not know of any other
Telugu or Tamil movies that he has composed for.
: > "Sangeetha swarangal ezhe kaNNakka, innum irukka?"
: > i.e. "Are there just seven swaras in music or are there more?"
:
: < Supposedly wonderful lyrics snipped >
:
: One will appreciate the lyrics greatly if a translation is
: provided, please... :-) Right now they are Tamil to me.
I would appreciate it too if someone could provide a translation. :)
Non-Hindi music is rarely discussed here, but I am hoping I will get
answers to these queries. Who is the lyricist of "Sangeeta swarangal"?
Who are the singers? SPB and ????
Vandana.
: ND
:
: \____Neeraj Deshmukh__________...@isip.msstate.edu____/
Satish Subramanian
Neeraj Deshmukh <desh...@isip05.isip.msstate.edu> writes:
> vven...@pcocd2.intel.com (Vandana Venkatesan) writes:
>> There are very few songs where the lyrics fit in so
>> poetically in the context of the picturization. Take the
>> opening line:
>> "Sangeetha swarangal ezhe kaNNakka, innum irukka?"
>> i.e. "Are there just seven swaras in music or are there more?"
>> Strange question, it might seem, but I would say it is just
>> a poetic way of saying "What the hell is there to talk
>> about all night?!"
>
> < Supposedly wonderful lyrics snipped >
>
> One will appreciate the lyrics greatly if a translation is provided,
> please... :-) Right now they are Tamil to me.
>
Translation is not going to enhance your appreciation. The first line
is fine but the rest of the lyrics, although fit the situation well,
are not very meaningful. It could even sound nonsensical (it was meant
to be!). It is supposed to signify the exchange of "sweet nothings"
(as the director K Balachander says) between a couple.
A sample:
M: nenjil ennavo ninaichen ; i thought of something
F: naanum dhan ninaichen ; me too
M: nyabagam varala ; can't remember it now
F: yosicha teriyum ; think, u will remember
M: yosanai varala ; mind doesn't work
F: thoongina vilangum ; maybe if you sleep..
M: thookam dhan varala ; but can't sleep either
F: paduren meduva urangu ; will sing you to sleep
The second stanza is marginally better but nothing exceptional.
The high-point of this song is not the lyrics, but the tune and the
picturization. The progression of the above lines in the song is
wonderful - with every line vying to go one-up on the previous one.
The song is a must-hear.
K Balachander manages to visualize and present in 4 minutes the
essence of "sweet nothings" with inanimate objects like telephone and
television and of course this great song. When the two are talking
over the phone, to signify the passage of time, the scenes in the
television (shown in the background) move from the local Tamil news
(8:40), to the start of the National program (9:00); then the
Doordarshan's caption at the end of National program flashes by
(11:30); then broadcast ends with the familiar black and white snow;
it is followed by the start of the DD's breakfast program (7:00). The
telephone is also essentially used as another 'actor' in the film.
SPB does a wonderful job in this song (with Janaki?). There is another
great solo that he sings with much better lyrics: "mazhaiyum neeyae
veyilum neeyae.. nilavum neeyae, neruppum neeyae", where he describes
the qualities of his sweetheart: 'for me, you are rain as well as the
bright sunrays; moon as well as fire'). SPB makes this difficult song
seem very simple to sing. Lyrics are by Vairamuthu.
SPB also has another important solo in the movie "jaathi malli poo
charamae". Unfortunately all his songs in the film got buried by the
popular songs from the female singers - 'thudik kiradhey nenjam
thenmaangu paada' and 'kozhi koovum neram aachchu.' There was also a
Chitra solo 'tat thit thom' which is not well-known.
Pretty decent album from music director Maragathamani. K Balachander
repeated him in "Vaaname Ellai" ('Sky is the limit'), where
Maragathamani sang a duet, "kamban kaadae". The title song of the movie
was very famous.
In Hindi he gave music for "Criminal" (with "tu mile dil khile",
"jaanu jaanu jaanu") and later for "Is Raat Ki Subah Nahi" (with
"chhup tum raho"). Maybe, he was the MD for the dubbed movies "Miya
Biwi aur Saali" and "Maun" too?
Was "Kshanam-Kshanam" dubbed in Hindi as "Great Robbery"? If so, how
come the MD was given as Raj-Koti in Hindi?
> Neeraj Deshmukh
--
bye
satish
Dev Mannemela
In article <5rnqoj$cns$1...@news.fm.intel.com>,
Vandana Venkatesan <vven...@pcocd2.intel.com> wrote:
>...
>This is interesting. What are the movies he composed for in Hindi and
>how is the music? The music of both "Azhagan" and "Kshanakshanam" is
>great. Was "Kshanakshanam" his debut movie? I do not know of any other
>Telugu or Tamil movies that he has composed for.
I think either "Kshana Kshanam" or "Sitaramaiah gari manavaralu" (
which was later remade in Hindi as "Udhar Ki Zindagi") is his first movie.
Both of them have very good music. He followed up these two movies
with a string of hits and has been among the top 2 or 3 MDs in Telugu ever since,
although I have to say he hasn't completely justified the promise
he has shown in his first few movies. His notable telugu movies
include "Rakshana", "Gharana Mogudu" ("Laadla" in Hindi), "Criminal",
"Subha Sankalpam", "Mr.Pellam"..
BTW, he is a big fan of Ilaiyaraaja.
I heard the music of "Azhagan" some time back. It has a few very interesting
songs and is aery good album overall and gotto say that his Tamil music
style is very different from his Telugu music.
BTW, he also MD'ed the muli-lingual "Deva Ragam" (*ing Sri Devi and
Arvind Swamy; Directed by Bharatan).
later,
/dev
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Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon
subr...@cs.umn.edu (Satish Subramanian) writes:
> Translation is not going to enhance your appreciation. The first
> line is fine but the rest of the lyrics, although fit the situation
> well, are not very meaningful. It could even sound nonsensical (it
> was meant to be!). It is supposed to signify the exchange of "sweet
> nothings" (as the director K Balachander says) between a couple.
Thanks for the brief but excellent synopsis of the lines, as
well as picturization info ("The scene on the screen", right UVR?)...
> Was "Kshanam-Kshanam" dubbed in Hindi as "Great Robbery"? If so, how
> come the MD was given as Raj-Koti in Hindi?
"Kshanakshanam" was dubbed in Hindi as "Hairaan", while the
original for the "Great Robbery" I believe is "Govinda Govinda".
Dev Mannemela
In article <5ro7fh$m...@epx.cis.umn.edu>,
Satish Subramanian <subr...@cs.umn.edu> wrote:
>
>...
>SPB does a wonderful job in this song (with Janaki?).
>
>In Hindi he gave music for "Criminal" (with "tu mile dil khile",
>"jaanu jaanu jaanu") and later for "Is Raat Ki Subah Nahi" (with
>"chhup tum raho"). Maybe, he was the MD for the dubbed movies "Miya
>Biwi aur Saali" and "Maun" too?
Yup.
>
>Was "Kshanam-Kshanam" dubbed in Hindi as "Great Robbery"? If so, how
>come the MD was given as Raj-Koti in Hindi?
"Kshanam Kshanam" was dubbed as "Hairaan"
It's "Govinda Govinda" what was dubbed as "The Great Robbery".
GG was MD'ed by Raj-koti (probably their best effort).
bal...@2kweb.net
In article <5rnqoj$cns$1...@news.fm.intel.com>,
vven...@pcocd2.intel.com (Vandana Venkatesan) wrote:
>
> Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon (desh...@isip05.isip.msstate.edu) wrote:
>
> : > The music is by Maragadhamani, who according to my source of
> : > information, is the same as Keeravani in the Telugu film world, who
> : > composed the music for "Kshanakshanam".
> :
> : Looks like keeping track of his name is going to be a tedious
> : job (or maybe it already is...). Here goes ---
> :
> : Telugu M M Keeravani
> : Hindi M M Kreem
> : Tamil Maragadhamani
>
May be his initials M M expand to Maragadhamani.
> This is interesting. What are the movies he composed for in Hindi and
> how is the music? The music of both "Azhagan" and "Kshanakshanam" is
> great. Was "Kshanakshanam" his debut movie? I do not know of any other
> Telugu or Tamil movies that he has composed for.
I believe his first film is "sItAramayya gAri manavarAlu"(Telugu,
1991). This has excellent songs. I don't know if this has been dubbed
into Tamil.
Other movies which I know:
Telugu ------- Allari mogudu(1991) - good monDi moguDu penki pellam(1991)
- One Telangana folk song is very good. gharAnA moguDu - good sundara
kaanDa - good. This was remade in Hindi with Anil kapoor as Andaz and
one song is same. aapadhbhandavudu ( 1992 ) - Very good aSwini ( 1992 ) -
One song "mOhana raagam paade" very good. This is athlete Ashwani
Nachappa's biographical movie. She herself acted in this movie. rakshaNa
( 1993 ) - good antam ( 1993 ) - Very good. This is Ram Gopal Verma's
movie and had three music directors: Keeravaani, R.D. Burman, Mani
Sarma. I have to check the cassette which songs are by whom. All the
songs are good. In Hindi this movie is know as Drohi. Dubbed into Tamil
but I don't know the name. Mister peLLaam ( 1993 ) - One song "sogasu
chUDa taramA" is good. konDapalli raajaa ---- 1993 - Two catchy songs:
which I liked. criminal ---- 1994 - Good maina ( 1996 ) - Very good
Bombay priyuDu ---- 1996 - Very good peLLisandaDi ( 1996 ) - Very good
annamayya ( 1997 ) - Movie is based on the Carnatic Music Composer
Annamacharya. So has lot Annamacharya'a Keertana's. Wife of V. Vara
Prasad ( 1997 ) - Good Kishinda Kanda - One song "manaserigina" is
excellent.
There are lot of other movies but I haven't listened those songs. If you
want the list check the following at Telugu Movie server:
http://ligwww.epfl.ch/cgi-bin/srik/cdata?Item@@Music@@55201
Tamil
------
Devaragam - This has very good songs. This was dubbed into Telugu with the
same name. Sridevi and Aravindaswamy acted in this movie.
--
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Satish Subramanian wrote:
> In Hindi he gave music for "Criminal" (with "tu mile dil khile",
> "jaanu jaanu jaanu") and later for "Is Raat Ki Subah Nahi" (with
> "chhup tum raho"). Maybe, he was the MD for the dubbed movies "Miya
> Biwi aur Saali" and "Maun" too?
>
> come the MD was given as Raj-Koti in Hindi?
Kshanam-Kshanam got dubbed into Hairaan. It was in the pre-M.M. Kreem
era. So, his name appears as Keeravani. SureshW gets to sing the hindi
version of SPB's jaamu rathiri. The Hindi version goes
'aadhi raat ko, dekh chandramaa
aa'ee chandni, yahaaaN'
Hairaan/KK starred Venkatesh and Sridevi. Great Robbery (or is it
Great Train Robbery?? or just getting confused...) had Sridevi and
Nagarjuna, right?
Later,
Ikram.
sku...@hotmail.com
In
> : Looks like keeping track of his name is going to be a tedious
> : job (or maybe it already is...). Here goes ---
> :
> : Telugu M M Keeravani
> : Hindi M M Kreem
> : Tamil Maragadhamani
>
> how is the music? The music of both "Azhagan" and "Kshanakshanam" is
> great. Was "Kshanakshanam" his debut movie? I do not know of any other
> Telugu or Tamil movies that he has composed for.
He did 'criminal' (dubbed one) but couldnt resist sounding 'tu hi re'
and also Enigma. His 'Is rat ki subah nahin' was realy good. His critics
describe his style as ilayara mets rahman. His tunes are less complex and
occationaly copies tunes from various western sources. Even his early
kshanakshanam had lift from rap band SNAP (humbare Ahumbare). Other wise
an average musician.
I will try to make transulation later if possible.
PS: vandana if are intererseted in Tamil music discussion,
come to TAMIL FILM MUSIC PAGE. Lots of disscuson is
around.
>
> : > "Sangeetha swarangal ezhe kaNNakka, innum irukka?"
> : > i.e. "Are there just seven swaras in music or are there more?"
> :
> : < Supposedly wonderful lyrics snipped >
> :
> : One will appreciate the lyrics greatly if a translation is
> : provided, please... :-) Right now they are Tamil to me.
>
> I would appreciate it too if someone could provide a translation. :)
> Non-Hindi music is rarely discussed here, but I am hoping I will get
> answers to these queries. Who is the lyricist of "Sangeeta swarangal"?
> Who are the singers? SPB and ????
>
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bal...@2kweb.net
Sorry about the format of my previous post. That was my first post using
dejanews.
> Other movies which I know:
>
> Telugu
------- Allari mogudu(1991) - good monDi moguDu penki pellam(1991) -
One Telangana folk song is very good. gharAnA moguDu - good sundara
kaanDa - good. This was remade in Hindi with Anil kapoor as Andaz and
one song is same. aapadhbhandavudu ( 1992 ) - Very good aSwini ( 1992 )
- One song "mOhana raagam paade" very good. This is athlete Ashwani
Nachappa's biographical movie. She herself acted in this movie.
rakshaNa ( 1993 ) - good antam ( 1993 ) - Very good. This is Ram Gopal
Verma's Movie and had three music directors: Keeravaani, R.D. Burman,
Mani Sarma. I have to check the cassette which songs are by whom. All
the songs are good. In Hindi this movie is know as Drohi. Dubbed into
Tamil but I don't know the name. Mister peLLaam ( 1993 ) - One song
"sogasu chUDa taramA" is good. konDapalli raajaa ---- 1993 - Two catchy
songs: which I liked. criminal ---- 1994 - Good Maina ( 1996 ) - Very
good Bombay priyuDu ---- 1996 - Very good peLLisandaDi ( 1996 ) - Very
good annamayya ( 1997 ) - Movie is based on the Carnatic Music Composer
Annamacharya. So has lot Annamacharya'a Keertana's. Wife of V. Vara
Prasad ( 1997 ) - Good Kishinda Kanda - One song "manaserigina" is
excellent.
>
> There are lot of other movies but I haven't listened those songs. If you
> want the list check the following at Telugu Movie server:
>
> http://ligwww.epfl.ch/cgi-bin/srik/cdata?Item@@Music@@55201
>
> Tamil
> ------
>
> Devaragam - This has very good songs. This was dubbed into Telugu with the
> same name. Sridevi and Aravindaswamy acted in this movie.
>
> --
> balaji
>
Anand Varadharajan
>I think either "Kshana Kshanam" or "Sitaramaiah gari manavaralu" (
which was later remade in Hindi as "Udhar Ki Zindagi") is his first movie.
Both of them have very good music.
I thought that Niveda song (tamil)came out before KshanaKshanam? I forgot the
name of the movie... The song goes like "Sa Sa Sa SaNi. SaNiDha.. NeeDhaPa..
. etc.. Niveda...
> BTW, he is a big fan of Ilaiyaraaja.
Who is not?
> I heard the music of "Azhagan" some time back. It has a few very interesting
songs and is aery good album overall and gotto say that his Tamil music
style is very different from his Telugu music.
Yeah, I also noticed... More lyrics emphasis... more classical.. and hence not
great box office hits... Similar to what SPB did with Sigaram etc..
/anand
jagadIsh
In article <devmEE5...@netcom.com>, de...@netcom.com says...
>
>In article <5rnqoj$cns$1...@news.fm.intel.com>,
>Vandana Venkatesan <vven...@pcocd2.intel.com> wrote:
>>...
>>how is the music? The music of both "Azhagan" and "Kshanakshanam" is
>>great. Was "Kshanakshanam" his debut movie? I do not know of any other
>>Telugu or Tamil movies that he has composed for.
>
>which was later remade in Hindi as "Udhar Ki Zindagi") is his first movie.
I don't remember the name. It had Naresh, Sitara and two kids
jagadIsh
Murugan Pitchairaman
bal...@2kweb.net wrote:
: Tamil
: ------
: Devaragam - This has very good songs. This was dubbed into Telugu with the
: same name. Sridevi and Aravindaswamy acted in this movie.
two more movies he has done in tamil. Nee padhi naan padhi and
Jaathimalli (k.balachander's movie). the first one is okay but the second
one is better not to listen kind of album.
: --
Dev Mannemela
In article <8703276...@dejanews.com>, <sku...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>In
> He did 'criminal' (dubbed one) but couldnt resist sounding 'tu hi re'
>and also Enigma. His 'Is rat ki subah nahin' was realy good. His critics
>describe his style as ilayara mets rahman. His tunes are less complex and
>occationaly copies tunes from various western sources. Even his early
>kshanakshanam had lift from rap band SNAP (humbare Ahumbare). Other wise
>an average musician.
While you can detect bits and pieces of influences of various
western sources (from Abba to Jackson to SNAP..) in Keeravani's songs,
I am not aware of any "wholesale" lifts.
I wouldn't call his style "IR meets ARR".. He is distinctly un-ARR.
Infact he has been leaning towards almost light-music (the very
simple kind you would hear on TV or radio ), especially in
"Pelli Sandadi" and "Bombay Priyudu"etc..
jagadIsh
In article <5rns6s$a...@drn.zippo.com>, U.V. says...
>I have a
>doubt his actual name is Maragadhamani and "Keeravani" is his assumed
>name (because he likes the raga?). Ergo, MaragadhaMani Keeravani.
Not true. His name given at birth is Keeravani. Probably his father
likes the raga. Family name is MarakataMani which is written as 'M.M.'.
His cousin Srilekha (M.M. Srilekha) also sings for telugu movies and
has composed music for some.
jagadIsh