Qamar Jalalabadi is dead
naniwadekar
Qamar Jalalabadi passed away last week.
The first film for which he wrote lyrics was Zamindar (1942).
It was the start of a long innings. He was born in 1919; his
real name was Om Prakash Bhansali. He had been bed-ridden
for some time. Last month, word had come that his health had
deteriorated further.
I understand some radio station in US had recorded Hamraaz's
tribute to him. It was due to be aired yesterday (Sunday). We
have lost yet another link to the Golden Era of Hindi film music.
- dn
naniwadekar
I had written -
>
> Qamar Jalalabadi passed away last week.
>
Correction - Qamar Sahab died on 09 January 2003.
http://www.mid-day.com/entertainment/music/2003/january/41214.htm
The write-up at the URL is a shameless copy of Vijay's
write-up for the ISB. The Mid Day Correspondent has
not bothered to add anything of his own. He hasn't even
taken efforts to make some minor modifications to leave
room for argument that his wasn't a blatant copy. The
lyricist's work in the 1940s has been lightly passed over.
That he was one of the few remaining links to the 1940s
has been entirely ignored. But at least Mid Day's link comes
up via Google's 'News' search. Where are Times of India,
Indian Express, Hindu? To be fair to the Mid Day writer,
it is somewhat difficult to slip in the credits part. And the writer
did bother to access the ISB, thank God! Imagine
yourself to be a know-nothing fellow with access to Vijay's
write-up. How will you go about the task? Still, the effort
was Vijay's and its copy rankles. We can be sure no private
'thank you' note has been sent using ISB's feedback form.
The news item announcing the lyricist's death carries
a bizarre title : 'Qamar Jalalabadi ke geet'. Sigh!
At least that title has not been stolen from the ISB.
Its original source is left to the reader's imagination, I guess.
What a sad state of affairs!
- dn
Abhay Jain
"naniwadekar" <nani3...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Qamar Jalalabadi passed away last week.
>
> The first film for which he wrote lyrics was Zamindar (1942).
> It was the start of a long innings. He was born in 1919; his
> real name was Om Prakash Bhansali.
>
Can we possibly have a list of Singers/MDs/Lyricists only
with their original/adopted names. Thanks.
Abhay Jain
Surjit Singh
No. That's my next Denver quiz!
Just kidding. I will post the Lyricist one from home tonight. Save the
others for the quiz. BTW jalaalaabaadii is not bhansali, but bha.NDaarii.
> Abhay Jain
>
>
--
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html
Abhay Jain
"Surjit Singh" <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Surjit Singh
Abhay Jain wrote:
> Please do not post and let it be a topic for quiz at RMIM meets.
>
I can post it as a quiz.
I haven't had a Kaun Banega Guru for a while!
UVR
> I had written -
> >
> > Qamar Jalalabadi passed away last week.
>
> Correction - Qamar Sahab died on 09 January 2003.
He was an exceptional poet. May his soul rest in peace.
-UVR.
Surjit Singh
The following comes from mere giit tumhaare (Rafi Geet Kosh) by A. K.
Pradhan and P. T. Menghani:
1. aarazuu lakhanavii
2. anjaan
3. anjum jayapurii
4. ahasaan rizavii
5. gulashan jalaalaabaadii
6. hasarat jayapurii
7. harshh
8. indiivar
9. irshaad
10. jigar muraadaabaadii
11. qaif irafaanii
12. qaifii aazmii
13. majaruuh sultaanapurii
14. mirzaa Gaalib
15. naqsh laayalapurii
16. nasiima ajamerii
17. niiraj
18. nidaa faazalii
19. madhur
20. pradiip
21. qamar jalaalaabaadii
22. qatiil shifaa_ii
23. sabaa afaGaanii
24. saahir
25. saharaa_ii
26. sarashaar sailaanii
27. shailendr
28. tanviir naqavii
29. nuur lakhanavii
Real names
a. usmaan Kaa.N rahamaanii
b. iqabaal husain
c. muhammad afazal
d. atahar husain
e. jasavant raay
f. ifteslaa husain
g. om prakaash bha.nDaarii
h. abdul hayii
i. shankar kesariilaal
j. sayyad anvar husain
k. sayyad muhammad ehsaan daanaapurii
l. b. r. ta.nDan
m. asaraar ahamad Kaa.N
n. zahuur ahamad
o. buddhiichandr agravaal
p. aurangazeb Kaa.N
q. manohar si.Nh
r. sayaad Kurshiid alii
s. kR^ishhN bihaarii
t. lalit paa.nDe
u. purushhottam laal bha.nDaarii
v. shyaam laal jhaa.nsavii
w. alii sikandar
x. raam muurtii
y. asad ulla Kaa.N
z. gopaal daas
A. raamchandr naaraayaNajii dvivedii
B. muhammad jamiil ur rahamaan
C. bhiimasen khatrii
Please post your answers on RMIM.
Vijay Kumar K
> Hi RMIMers:
>
> The following comes from mere giit tumhaare (Rafi Geet Kosh) by A. K.
> Pradhan and P. T. Menghani:
>
> 1. aarazuu lakhanavii
> 2. anjaan
> 3. anjum jayapurii
> 4. ahasaan rizavii
> 5. gulashan jalaalaabaadii
> 6. hasarat jayapurii
> 7. harshh
> 8. indiivar
> 9. irshaad
> 10. jigar muraadaabaadii
> 11. qaif irafaanii
> 13. majaruuh sultaanapurii > m. asaraar ahamad Kaa.N
> 14. mirzaa Gaalib > y. asad ulla Kaa.N
> 15. naqsh laayalapurii
> 16. nasiima ajamerii
> 17. niiraj
> 18. nidaa faazalii
> 19. madhur
> 21. qamar jalaalaabaadii
> 22. qatiil shifaa_ii
> 23. sabaa afaGaanii
> 25. saharaa_ii
> 26. sarashaar sailaanii
> 28. tanviir naqavii
> 29. nuur lakhanavii
>
> Real names
>
listed on the C-ISB pages - Majrooh as Asrar Hussain Khan; and Kaifi Azmi as
Akhtar Hussain Rizvi. If you confirm my matchings above and confirm the real
names, I will correct the bios appropriately.
> a. usmaan Kaa.N rahamaanii
> b. iqabaal husain
> c. muhammad afazal
> e. jasavant raay
> f. ifteslaa husain
> g. om prakaash bha.nDaarii
Very close to Qamar Jalalabadi's real name - Om Prakash Bhansali, but Qamar
is missing in the first list above.
> j. sayyad anvar husain
> k. sayyad muhammad ehsaan daanaapurii
> l. b. r. ta.nDan
> n. zahuur ahamad
> o. buddhiichandr agravaal
> p. aurangazeb Kaa.N
Whoever this turns out to be, I don't blame him for using a nom-de-plume!
> q. manohar si.Nh
> r. sayaad Kurshiid alii
> s. kR^ishhN bihaarii
> t. lalit paa.nDe
> u. purushhottam laal bha.nDaarii
> v. shyaam laal jhaa.nsavii
> w. alii sikandar
> x. raam muurtii
> z. gopaal daas
> B. muhammad jamiil ur rahamaan
> C. bhiimasen khatrii
>
Given Nasima Ajmeri & Saba Afghani, one would be pardoned for thinking
there should be two women's names in the "Real" names list. Iftesla is
probably one. None of the others catch the eye... So, is someone masquerading
as a woman? Why?
Vijay
UVR
> Hi RMIMers:
>
> The following comes from mere giit tumhaare (Rafi Geet Kosh) by A. K.
> Pradhan and P. T. Menghani:
Here are the (few) answers I know for sure and one guess.
Updating BOTH lists for completeness' sake (double-entry
system, zindaabaad! :D)
BTW, one notable omission I found from the list is Gulzar
(Sampooran Singh) -- yes, Rafi has sung songs written by
him, hasn't he? "jab bhii ye dil udaas hotaa hai" comes
to mind. Shakeel Badayuni and Jaan Nisar 'Akhtar' are
also not listed here, but the former didn't really adopt
a pseudonym, and the latter's is almost never quoted sans
his real name.
Also, I am pretty sure Nida Fazli is "muqtidaa hasan", but
this name is missing from your Real Names list. This means
we have one entry in each list without a corresponding name
in the other. I will be interesting to find out who.
-UVR.
> 1. aarazuu lakhanavii
> 2. anjaan
> 3. anjum jayapurii
> 4. ahasaan rizavii = sayyad muhammad ... (guess)
> 5. gulashan jalaalaabaadii = pu.laa. bhaNDaarI (qamar j's brother)
> 6. hasarat jayapurii = iqbaal husain
> 7. harshh
> 8. indiivar
> 9. irshaad
> 10. jigar muraadaabaadii = alii sikandar
> 11. qaif irafaanii ("k"aif, please)
> 12. qaifii aazmii = ("k"aifii, please) atahar husain
> 13. majaruuh sultaanapurii = asaraar ahamad Khaan
> 14. mirzaa Gaalib = asadullaah Khaan
> 15. naqsh laayalapurii
> 16. nasiima ajamerii
> 17. niiraj = gopaal daas
> 18. nidaa faazalii = muqtidaa hasan
> 19. madhur
> 20. pradiip = raamachandra naaraayaNajii dvivedii
> 21. qamar jalaalaabaadii = om prakaash bhaNDaarii
> 22. qatiil shifaa_ii = aurangazeb Khaan
> 23. sabaa afaGaanii
> 24. saahir ludhiyaanavii = abdul haayii
> 25. saharaa_ii
> 26. sarashaar sailaanii
> 27. shailendr
> 28. tanviir naqavii
> 29. nuur lakhanavii = kR^iShNa bihaarii
Question: Wasn't Majrooh's real name "asaraal (ul) hasan Khaan" (v/s
asaraar ahamad)
> Real names
>
> a. usmaan Kaa.N rahamaanii
> b. iqabaal husain = hasarat jayapurii
> c. muhammad afazal
> d. atahar husain = kaifii aazmii
> e. jasavant raay
> f. ifteslaa husain
> g. om prakaash bha.nDaarii = qamar jalaalaabaadii
> h. abdul hayii = saahir ludhiyaanavii
> i. shankar kesariilaal
> j. sayyad anvar husain
> k. sayyad muhammad ehsaan daanaapurii = ahasaan rizvii (guess)
> l. b. r. ta.nDan
> m. asaraar ahamad Kaa.N = majaruuh sultaanapurii
> n. zahuur ahamad
> o. buddhiichandr agravaal
> p. aurangazeb Kaa.N = qatiil shifaa_ii
> q. manohar si.Nh
> r. sayaad Kurshiid alii
> s. kR^ishhN bihaarii = nuur lakhanavii
> t. lalit paa.nDe
> u. purushhottam laal bha.nDaarii = gulshan jalaalaabaadii
> v. shyaam laal jhaa.nsavii
> w. alii sikandar = jigar muraadaabaadii
> x. raam muurtii
> y. asad ulla Kaa.N = mirzaa Ghaalib
> z. gopaal daas = niiraj
> A. raamchandr naaraayaNajii dvivedii = kavi pradiip
Vinayak K.Gore
Dear friends
Indiivar shyam laal jhaa.nsavii
In fact, in Malhar he has used both names.
Second one (only guess)
Anjaan Lalit pande
Vinayak
Vinayak K.Gore
Dear Friends
Sorry to follow up my own post.
I think Anjaan's real name is Lalji Pande Instead of Lalit Pande.
Vianyak
Surjit Singh
all stones.
UVR
> Keep going. Great job. Remember this a take-home open-book quiz. Unturn
> all stones.
>
Which brings me to the question I wanted to (but forgot to)
ask earlier: when's the deadline for the answers? :) That
is, when will you post the final answer list, Dr. Singh?
-UVR.
Surjit Singh
posted, whichever is later or anytime before or after that.
UVR
> Keep going. Great job. Remember this a take-home open-book quiz. Unturn
> all stones.
One more answer, two more guesses (just to keep this thread from
becoming too dormant).
a. [9] irshaad = [c] muhammad afzal
b. [19] paNDit madhur = [l] b. r. TaNDan (guess)
c. [3] anjum jayapurii = [x] ram muurtii (guess)
Combining the responses from Vijay, Vinayak and uVr :), I think
we are past the half-way mark.
In a related context:
Q. Is this 'Ram Murti' the same as Ram Murti Chaturvedi about
whom Hrishi had asked several years ago in one of his ATMJH posts?
Q. What was the real name of 'Anjum Pilibhiti'?
(No, these are not part of a quiz, or anything. I really would
like to know the answers, that's all).
-UVR.
Surjit Singh
Surjit Singh
Thanks.
I am reproducing the names given in the book "mere giit tunhaare" by
pradhaan and menghaanii. Any spelling variations etc. are exactly as in
the book. My comments in [].
1. aarazuu lakhanavii
sayyad anvar husain
2. anjaan
lalit paaNDe [should be laalajii]
3. anjum jayapurii
usmaan khaa.N rahamaanii [should be Kaa.N]
4. ahasaan rizavii
saiyad muhammad ehasan daanaapurii [don't know why saiyad is spelt
differently, ehasan should be ehasaan]
5. gulashan jalaalaabaadii
purushhottam laal bhaNDaarii
6. hasarat jayapurii
iqabaal husain
7. harshh
b. r. TaNDan
8. indiivar
shyaamalaal jhaa.nsavii
9. irshaad
muhammad afazal
10. jigar muraadaabaadii
alii sikandar
11. qaif irafaanii
raam murtii [should be kaif, don't know if same as paNDit
raamamuurti chaturvedii]
12. qaifii aazmii
atahar husain [should be kaifii, I believe it is aKtar]
Library of congress has a very commendable project for recording the
voices of poets and writers from South Asia in many languages. You can
hear him at
http://www.loc.gov/acq/ovop/delhi/salrp/kaifiazmi.html
13. majaruuh sultaanapurii
asaraar ahamada khaa.N [should be Kaa.N, all my sources say
asaraar, not asaraal]
14. mirzaa Gaalib
mirzaa asada ullaa khaa.N [ should be Kaa.N]
15. naqsh laayalapurii
jasavant raay
16. nasiima ajamerii
jahuur ahamad [should be zahuur]
17. niiraj
gopaaladaas
18. nidaa faazalii
ifteslaa husain [UVR says muqtidaa hasan]
19. madhur
buddhiichandr agravaal
20. pradiip
raamachandr naarayaNajii dvivedii
21. qamar jalaalaabaadii
om prakaash bhaNDaarii
22. qatiil shifaa_ii
aura.ngazeb khaa.n [should be Kaa.N]
23. sabaa afaGaanii
muhammad jamiila_ur rahamaan
24. saahir ludhiyaanavii
abdul haayii
25. saharaa_ii
manohar si.nh
26. sarashaar sailaanii
bhimasen khatrii
27. shailendr
sha.nkar kesariilaal
28. tanviir naqavii
sayyad khurshid alii [should be Kurshiid]
29. nuur lakhanavii
kR^ishhN bihaarii
gulzar = sampuran singh is too well-known and the book just said gulzar
= gulzar dinavii!
Surjit Singh wrote:
> RSN.
UVR
> Hi RMIMers:
>
> Thanks.
>
> I am reproducing the names given in the book "mere giit tunhaare" by
> pradhaan and menghaanii. Any spelling variations etc. are exactly as in
> the book. My comments in [].
Thanks for posting the answers, Dr. Singh. I don't know about other
RMIMers, but I was quite eagerly awaiting this post.
[snip]
> 12. qaifii aazmii
> atahar husain [should be kaifii, I believe it is aKtar]
I have a book of Kaifi Azmi's poetry printed face-to-face in Nagari
and Urdu. This book says his name is "atahar" Hussain.
> Library of congress has a very commendable project for recording the
> voices of poets and writers from South Asia in many languages. You can
> hear him at
>
> http://www.loc.gov/acq/ovop/delhi/salrp/kaifiazmi.html
[snip]
> 18. nidaa faazalii
> ifteslaa husain [UVR says muqtidaa hasan]
Not only UVR. Even the Library of Congress says so. See:
http://www.loc.gov/acq/ovop/delhi/salrp/fazli.html
where you can hear the poet recite some of his work [you *did*
say it was an open book test :)] How nice it would have been if
the Lib. of C. had recorded Kaifi Azmi's real name, too, in this
same manner.
-UVR.
Surjit Singh
UVR wrote:
> Surjit Singh wrote:
>
>> Hi RMIMers:
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I am reproducing the names given in the book "mere giit tunhaare" by
>> pradhaan and menghaanii. Any spelling variations etc. are exactly as
>> in the book. My comments in [].
>
>
> Thanks for posting the answers, Dr. Singh. I don't know about other
> RMIMers, but I was quite eagerly awaiting this post.
Should MDs be next?
>
> [snip]
>
>> 12. qaifii aazmii
>> atahar husain [should be kaifii, I believe it is aKtar]
>
>
> I have a book of Kaifi Azmi's poetry printed face-to-face in Nagari
> and Urdu. This book says his name is "atahar" Hussain.
OK. Good.
>
>> Library of congress has a very commendable project for recording the
>> voices of poets and writers from South Asia in many languages. You can
>> hear him at
>>
>> http://www.loc.gov/acq/ovop/delhi/salrp/kaifiazmi.html
>
> [snip]
>
>> 18. nidaa faazalii
>> ifteslaa husain [UVR says muqtidaa hasan]
>
>
> Not only UVR. Even the Library of Congress says so. See:
>
> http://www.loc.gov/acq/ovop/delhi/salrp/fazli.html
>
> where you can hear the poet recite some of his work [you *did*
>
> -UVR.
Vinayak K.Gore
> Hi RMIMers:
>
>
My thanks to Surjit Singh, UVR and Vijaykumar for enlightening me
about real names of poets.I would also like to know the real names of
the following
1.Saraswatikumar "Deepak"
2.Balkavi Bairagi
3.Sudarshan Fakir
4.Keshav
5.Pandit Indra
I per my knowledge Shailendra's name was Shankardas Rao and he was
from a telugu speaking family based in Rawalpindi.Are we mixing up
with MD Shankar?
Regards
Vinayak