"Pakeezah Rang Barang" songs available on HamaraCD
Abhay Phadnis
"Pakeezah Rang Barang" LP record (songs that were recorded for "Pakeezah"
but were not used in the film). The songs were subsequently re-released on a
CD along with the songs from the soundtrack, but this CD is not widely
available. For those who want the songs: I discovered that most of the songs
are available on Hamara CD (a search for "Pakeeza" brings up these songs
along with the 'regular' ones from the film; searching for "Rang Barang"
brings up only the non-soundtrack songs). The only song missing (from those
on the 'consolidated' CD) seems to be "bandhan baandho" (Shobha Gurtu);
can't figure out why it should be missing!
[As pointed out by Ashok earlier, the lovely alaap and taraanaa by Lata is
missing from all these versions. It is available on the LP of the film (and
of course in the film itself), but nowhere else.]
BTW: the complete list that comes up for "Pakeezah" shows even the film
version of "chalo diladaar chalo" in Lata's name alone - no Rafi listed!!
Warm regards,
Abhay
Ritu
>
> [As pointed out by Ashok earlier, the lovely alaap and taraanaa by Lata is
> missing from all these versions. It is available on the LP of the film (and
> of course in the film itself), but nowhere else.]
Abhay, the Alaap and Taraana were also a part of the single cassette
Pakeezah soundtrack release that I had brought 5-6 years back. Wasn't
that Alaap and Taraana the same that plays when the film's titles
roll? I distinctly remember seeing a dancer on screen for this
taraana. Ofcourse, it might be possible that I am talking of some
different taraana altogether.
Regards,
Ritu
Abhay Phadnis
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Thanks for the information! And the taraanaa and alaapii is indeed what
plays when the titles are rolling, with Meena Kumari (in the mother's role)
dancing.
Warm regards,
Abhay
>
> Regards,
> Ritu
Jamal Akbar
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Arun Iyengar
> BTW: the complete list that comes up for "Pakeezah" shows even the film
> version of "chalo diladaar chalo" in Lata's name alone - no Rafi listed!!
Fair enough. Lata does all the sublime singing and Rafi is as good as
non-existent in the song.
A
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aanand
> > BTW: the complete list that comes up for "Pakeezah" shows even the film
> > version of "chalo diladaar chalo" in Lata's name alone - no Rafi listed!!
>
>
> Fair enough. Lata does all the sublime singing and Rafi is as good as
> non-existent in the song.
>
> A
Wish it would been similar in few more songs !!!
( sorry guys.. but i am extreme lata fan thus hate other male singer
with her as they cann't match her immotions and perfection)
No fights please..
rgds
anand.
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
> ">
> > > BTW: the complete list that comes up for "Pakeezah" shows even the film
> > > version of "chalo diladaar chalo" in Lata's name alone - no Rafi listed!!
> >
> >
> > Fair enough. Lata does all the sublime singing and Rafi is as good as
> > non-existent in the song.
> >
> > A
Hey!
>
> Wish it would been similar in few more songs !!!
> ( sorry guys.. but i am extreme lata fan thus hate other male singer
> with her as they cann't match her immotions and perfection)
Perfection, yes. Emotion, not true.
Sanjeev
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Though I am a huge Lata fan I agree with Sanjeev here.
sg.
Abhay Jain
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> ">
>
> Wish it would been similar in few more songs !!!
> ( sorry guys.. but i am extreme lata fan thus hate other male singer
> with her as they cann't match her immotions and perfection)
You want emotions from Rafi - listen to
"Babul Ki Duayen Leti Jaa" in Neel Kamal.
or
"O Duniya Ke Rakhwale" from Baiju Bawra.
We are only talking emotions and not quality.
Abhay Jain
Ajit
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> > ">
> >
> > Wish it would been similar in few more songs !!!
> > ( sorry guys.. but i am extreme lata fan thus hate other male singer
> > with her as they cann't match her immotions and perfection)
>
> You want emotions from Rafi - listen to
>
> "Babul Ki Duayen Leti Jaa" in Neel Kamal.
>
Call it hamming. A superlative instance of hamming.
Surjit Singh
I believe it started with Husnlal-Bhagatram,
ik dila ke Tuka.De hazaara hu{e}
and
muhabbata ke dhoke me.n ko{ii} na aa{e}
Arun Iyengar
> > ( sorry guys.. but i am extreme lata fan thus hate other male singer
> > with her as they cann't match her immotions and perfection)
>
> Perfection, yes. Emotion, not true.
You hit the bulls eye with that. Probably that might explain to some degree
why her male counterparts (especially Mukesh) scored over her in many of the
tandem songs. You can fault Lata many times for not emoting well enough
especially in sad songs but hardly ever for overemoting. As an aside, I
agree too with your earlier comment about Vani Jairam falling short in this
department. But personally if I were to pick one over the other, I would
pick perfection. Of course it's great to have both going for you as long as
you don't overdo the emotion part like the current day Sonu Nigam (agree
with you there as well though I was in a denial mode initially).
Surjit Singh
> especially in sad songs but hardly ever for overemoting. As an aside, I
For overemoting go to giitaa, e.g. meraa sundara sapana biita gayaaaaaaa
--
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html
Ajit
> "Sanjeev Ramabhadran" <sanj...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> > > ( sorry guys.. but i am extreme lata fan thus hate other male singer
> > > with her as they cann't match her immotions and perfection)
> >
> > Perfection, yes. Emotion, not true.
>
> agree too with your earlier comment about Vani Jairam falling short in this
> department.
She is downright artificial in her Hindi songs, and IMO has a highly
irritating nasal twang at times.
aanand
few MD.
I really feel he always oversang and overemoted in songs of HB,
Naushad, OPN and SJ. IMO he was best used by SDB and JAidev( In
Humdono), roshan where they have controlled his output.
Just by giving artificial nuances u does not emote in song. Latas'
voice had such good pathos that she never needed to over emote.
consider her songs like Tum qya jano, wo to che gaye hai dil ..they
are excellent blend of emotions and musical perfection.
rgds
anand.
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Sanjeev Ramabhadran
> few MD.
> I really feel he always oversang and overemoted in songs of HB,
> Naushad, OPN and SJ. IMO he was best used by SDB and JAidev( In
> Humdono), roshan where they have controlled his output.
Not always, but yes, he did his share of crying in some of their songs
(SJ, OPN, Naushad, HB)...SDB somehow got the best out of each that he
worked with.
> Just by giving artificial nuances u does not emote in song. Latas'
> voice had such good pathos that she never needed to over emote.
> consider her songs like Tum qya jano, wo to che gaye hai dil ..they
> are excellent blend of emotions and musical perfection.
Very nice examples...and you do see *palpable* emoting on Lata's part
(e.g. the slightly dragged "Dard Hamaa~rrraa" in the second verse). If
you speak solely of this period, you may be harder pressed to find a
male singer who approaches that level of sincere emotion. However,
particularly as the years wore on, the perfection stayed far longer
than the emotion.
Sanjeev
animesh kumar
> exactly these were things in rafi that i hate but it happnes with only
> few MD.
> I really feel he always oversang and overemoted in songs of HB,
> Naushad, OPN and SJ. IMO he was best used by SDB and JAidev( In
> Humdono), roshan where they have controlled his output.
You missed Khayyaam and Madan Mohan. In fact, Naushad also produced very
nice master-pieces with Rafi during early phase (1947-55 or so).
tere kooche me.n apane aramaano.n kii duniyaa leke aaya huu.N (rafi,
dillagi, naushad)
suhaanii raat Dhal chukii, naa jaane tum kab aaoge (rafi, dulari, naushad)
chale aaj tum jahaa.N se (udan khatola, rafi, naushad)
are a few examples.
Madan Mohan used him in some very nice ghazals and songs,
kisii ki yaad me duniyaa ko hai.n bhulaa_e hu_e (jahan ara)
tumase kahuu.N ik baat paro.n se halakii halakii (dastak)
baad muddat ke ye gha.Dii aa_ii, aap aa_e to zi.ndagii aa_ii (jahan ara)
are another few.
Talk of Overemoting in Roshan's song,
dil jo na kah sakaa, wahii raaz e dil kahane kii raat (bheegi raat)
swapn jha.De phuul se, miit chubhe shuul se (nai umr ki nai fasal) (this
song is particularly nice, but since we are talking of over-emoting I am
writing this one).
There is nothing like *always* over-emoted with this MD and *never*
over-emoted with this MD. There may be more and less chances.
best regards
Animesh
animesh kumar
associated with sentiments and crying, may be thats why songs with such
pathos are made for Lata. As a rule people are surprised if a guy is
sentimental,
And with emotions, I recalled Devdas and then Talat Mahmood. His renditions
come full of pathos, really really nice.
mitawaaa lagii re kaisii anabujh aag
kisako khabar thii, kisako yakii.n thaa
tasaviir banaataa huu.N tasaviir nahii.n banatii
kaun kahataa hai tujhe mai.nne bhulaa rakhaa hai
and the list goes on
best regards
Animesh
> Sanjeev