any well known songs in raag bhimpalasi
Rekha Pai
I was just wondering if anyone knew any popular songs in raag bhimpalasi..
I just learnt it, so I have been looking for such songs, I found some in
the faq but I had never heard of these songs:
Aai ri mai to prem diwani mera dard na jane koi
Bhimpalasi
Lata
Navbahar
Roshan
Beena madhur madhur kuch bol
Bhimpalasi
Lata
??
Jhankaar payal ki tose binati kare
Bhimpalasi
Rafi
Naag Devata
SN Tripathi
also does anyone have the sargam (notes) for any songs in raag:
desh,
asawari,
bhupali,
hamsadvani,
bhimpalasi
kalavati
Thanks in advance
Rekha
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Bhalchandra Thatte
Vande Mataram
Hansadvani
Santo Karam kee gati nyari
G P N G^R R^N NP G S R R, P R G S S
S G P P PP P G P N N S^ N P G R
R^ R^ NP G S R R
Ja tum se nahi
Kalavati:
I don't know the words, but the tune goes like
S^ n D P D, G P D S^ (twice)
G P G S R n_ D_ S G S G P G P Gp Dn D n S^n D nD P,
DS^D S^R^S^ R^G^S^, S^ R^ G^ R^ n D. (almost Kalavati)
G P D S^ D S^.. n D S^
G P D S^ D S^... nD PG P n D
G P D S^ D S^.. n D S^
P P P G^ R^ G^ S^ D nS^ Dn P,
G P G S R n_ D_ S G S G P G P Gp Dn D n S^n D nD P,
DS^D S^R^S^ R^G^S^, S^ R^ G^ R^ n D. (almost Kalavati)
This is a very crude version, it is not really posible to write more
detailed notation.
Bhimpalasi
Aai ri mai to
g m P S^ n D P, P D D m P g S , S g m P g S g m P.
At leaset this line has no R, so I don't really know whether it is in
Bhimpalasi or not.
I don't remember all these songs fully.
If you are interested in Vande Mataram, I can write the notes.
If you tell me some other songs, I can try.
One cannot write the notes precisely because it is like trying to
write all the sounds in some simple script.
Bhalchandra Thatte
Avinash Chopde
Rekha Pai <re...@bombay.mti.sgi.com> wrote:
>hello friends,
>
>I was just wondering if anyone knew any popular songs in raag bhimpalasi..
>Rekha Pai
Here's a list plucked from the next release of the ITRANS Song Book
(release 3.0, sometime next year):
File composed by Pankaj Joshi and others, here's the relevant section:
\raga{raaga: bhimapalaasa}
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manabhora huaa matavaalaa
duniyaase jii ghabaraa gayaa
erii mai.n to premadivaanii
baasurii bajaaye koii
mai.ne chaa.Nda aura sitaaro.nkii
ye na thii hamaarii kismata (suraiyaa.n)
mai.n gariibo.nkaa dila aura vatanakii jubaa.N
o.a nirdayii priitama
bhulaayaa naa gayaa
dilake TukaDe hue aura jigara luTa gayaa
more manakaa baavaraa pa.nchhii
tuma suno suno ghanashyaama
puujaa karuu.ngii terii
naino.nme.n kajaraa chhaaye
tere sadape balama
bInA madhur kachhu bol
jhanakAra pAyalakI tose binatI kare
kahAn chalI A,merA luTake jiyA
jA dUra kahI
ham girIdharake ghara jAUn
%
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Avinash Chopde
avi...@acm.org
Rajan P. Parrikar
>hello friends,
>I was just wondering if anyone knew any popular songs in raag bhimpalasi..
Other than the ones in the rmim-faq, one that comes to my mind
right now is Mohammad Rafi's classic from the film Chandrakanta:
"maine chand aur sitaaroN ki tamanna ki thhi
mujhko raatoN ke siaahi ke siva kuchch na milaa"
(Music by N. Datta - Dattaram Naik, from Goa - this detail
provided to pre-empt the ghats and the bongs from claiming
him as their own.) The composition touches the shuddha gandhaar
on "kuchch", a no-no in Raga Bhimpalas, nevertheless retains the
overall flavour of that Raga.
Raga Bhimpalas is an extremely popular Raga and has been internalised
in the religious lore of Maharashtra/Goa (and surely elsewhere in the
country as well). There are scores of bhajans and abhangs and no
performance by a Hardas or a Kirtankaar can be complete without
servings of copious dollops of Bhimpalas. In bhajani baithaks, it
isn't uncommon to find dudes totally unlettered in classical music
fundae holding forth in Bhimpalas quite easily. Most of our "basic"
Ragas are very pervasive in these ancillary idioms of desi music - a
point sometimes not appreciated by even 'kilaasickal` folks.
>also does anyone have the sargam (notes) for any songs in raag:
>hamsadvani,
I shall get you started on the mukhDa of "Ja tose nahiN boluN
Kanhaiyya." Note that while the composition is overwhelmingly
grounded in Raga Hamsadhwani, it swings by the shuddha madhyam and
dhaivat. The film is Parivar, music by Salil Chowdhary, sung by Lata
and Manna Dey. Whooops! I just remembered....Didn't Kishore Kumar
act in this film (remember his funny song "kuNveN me kood ke"?)? Was
the following song picturised on him? And who was the heroine?
jaa tose nahiN boluN Kanhaiyya
raaha chalat pakDi mori baiyyaaN
Raga: Hamsadhwani
Set to: Teentaal
Key: Shuddha swaras in caps
() denotes grace note
' denotes mandra-saptak note
" denotes tar-saptak note
Not every nuance has been captured so as to keep the screen readable.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
G . P (P)R . R S N'
ja aa aa to o se na hiN
P' . R R G (G)PR S
bo . luN Kan Ha...i Ya aa
. P P P P P P P
raa ha cha la ta pa ka
S" S" (S")NP G (G)PR S
Di ii mo ri bai ... ya.aN
Antaraa: rooThi Radhike Krishna manaavat
murali ki saugandh uThaavat
maanat nahiN Radha, maanat nahiN Radha, maanat nahiN Radha
(left as an exercise; note the use of the shuddha madhyam on "saugandh.")
Also listen to Lata's Meera composition, "karam ki gati nyaari, santoN"
(superbly composed by Hridaynath Mangeshkar). Particularly telling is
the manner in which the line, "moorakh ko tum raaj diyat ho, panDit
phirat bhikaari, santoN karam ki gati nyaari" is rendered. How fortunate
we are to have had a Lata who could say so much so effortlessly! Within
a space of a few notes she uncorks the magic of Raga Hamsadhwani.
Rajan Parrikar
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ps: Thanks to Sami for filling some holes in the second line of
the Rafi's song and for reminding me of the film as well.
Rekha Pai
(Rajan P. Parrikar) writes:
|> Also listen to Lata's Meera composition, "karam ki gati nyaari, santoN"
|> (superbly composed by Hridaynath Mangeshkar). Particularly telling is
|> the manner in which the line, "moorakh ko tum raaj diyat ho, panDit
|> phirat bhikaari, santoN karam ki gati nyaari" is rendered. How fortunate
|> |> we are to have had a Lata who could say so much so effortlessly!
|> Within
|> a space of a few notes she uncorks the magic of Raga Hamsadhwani.
|>
|>
Thanks Rajan, for the help, right now I am trying to get that exercise
done!
will post the sargam of the antaraa as soon as I get it done, maybe someone
could correct it.
while you were discussing meera's bhajan, in that particular CD, I love two
songs more than "karam ki gati nyaari"
one is "Ud jaa re kaaga, ban kaa.."
can you identify the raag?
the other one of my favourites is
"kenun sang khelun holi.."
Rajan P. Parrikar
>while you were discussing meera's bhajan, in that particular CD, I love two
>songs more than "karam ki gati nyaari"
>one is "Ud jaa re kaaga, ban kaa.."
>can you identify the raag?
That is Raga Bhinna Shadaj using the pentatonic S G M D N scale.
r
Rajan P. Parrikar
SANK...@Meena.CC.URegina.CA (Sankaran, Sam) writes:
>In <3d0uvd$6...@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU> parr...@spot.Colorado.EDU writes:
>> dhaivat. The film is Parivar, music by Salil Chowdhary, sung by Lata
>> and Manna Dey. Whooops! I just remembered....Didn't Kishore Kumar
>> act in this film (remember his funny song "kuNveN me kood ke"?)? Was
>> the following song picturised on him? And who was the heroine?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Glad you asked! The heroine was Mala Sinha. But
>Kishore was NOT the hero. Raj Kapur was.
Satish Subramaniam (subr...@cs.umn.edu), who mothered the
rmim-faq, informs me that he is sitting armed with a book on
Hindi movies and that you are perhaps confusing Parvarish with
Parivar. That Kishore Kumar did star in the latter and Raj Kapoor
in the former. That chances that Bimal Roy, who made Parivar,
would sign on RK for his films, are very small.
To somehow tie this post to rmic, I must mention one compelling
point in favour of Satish's contention. Parvarish had Mukesh
singing for RK the immortal Yaman-based composition: aansoo bhari hai
yeh jeevan ki raaheiN set to Jhaptaal. The music was by Dattaram
(not N. Datta).
Rajan Parrikar
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email: parr...@spot.colorado.edu
Pankaj Joshi
Rajan P. Parrikar <parr...@spot.Colorado.EDU> wrote:
>re...@bombay.mti.sgi.com (Rekha Pai) writes:
>
>>while you were discussing meera's bhajan, in that particular CD, I love two
>>songs more than "karam ki gati nyaari"
>
>>one is "Ud jaa re kaaga, ban kaa.."
>>can you identify the raag?
>
>
>
>r
>
>
At times it sounds like Mand and at times it sounds like Bhinna Shadaj.
Is there any similarity between these two ragas? Or does the song deviate
into Mand?
Related to this thread, probably the most famous Marathi song in
Bhimpalasi is 'bhaatukaliichyaa kheldamadhalii raajaa aaNika raaNii'.
Another good hamsadhavni by Lata is 'i.ndra jimi j^r.mbha para baaDava
sua.mbhapar' from the collection named 'Shivalkalyan Raja'
Pankaj
Bhalchandra Thatte
Pankaj Joshi <paj...@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu> wrote:
>
>Related to this thread, probably the most famous Marathi song in
>Bhimpalasi is 'bhaatukaliichyaa kheldamadhalii raajaa aaNika raaNii'.
>
mixture here and there, but almost no g in it.
Bhalchandra Thatte
Tushar Samant
>>Related to this thread, probably the most famous Marathi song in
>>Bhimpalasi is 'bhaatukaliichyaa kheldamadhalii raajaa aaNika raaNii'.
>>
>This is not Bhimpalasi at all. It is close to Madhmadh Sarang, with some
>mixture here and there, but almost no g in it.
From what's gone on so far, I guess "swakul-tarak suta" is
a good example.
Rajan P. Parrikar
<deleted>
>>>one is "Ud jaa re kaaga, ban kaa.."
>>>can you identify the raag?
>>
>>That is Raga Bhinna Shadaj using the pentatonic S G M D N scale.
>>
>>
>>r
>At times it sounds like Mand and at times it sounds like Bhinna Shadaj.
No, it is very Bhinna Shadaj-ish throughout. I haven't heard the
composition in a long time and even if it turns out that the R and/or
P have been used as grace notes (as is typically done in light music
compositions for the sake of embellishing a phrase) it wouldn't change
the overall Bhinna Shadaj character of the song. "Ud jaa re kaagaa" is
actually a well-known bandish in that Raga and Lata's version is merely
an adaptation.
Btw, Bhinna Shadaj is also known by two other names: Kaushikdhwani
and in still rarer cases, Hindoli.
>Is there any similarity between these two ragas? Or does the song deviate
>into Mand?
Similarity only to the extent that they both use shuddha swaras.
Mand is free to cohabit with the rest of the swaras too in which case
we get Mishra Mand. A good example of a composition in Raga Mand is
the extremely popular and delightful Marathi natyageet, "naravar Krishna."
Pankaj Joshi
Bhalchandra Thatte <tha...@math.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>In article <D14C2...@ennews.eas.asu.edu>,
>Pankaj Joshi <paj...@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>Related to this thread, probably the most famous Marathi song in
>>Bhimpalasi is 'bhaatukaliichyaa kheldamadhalii raajaa aaNika raaNii'.
>>
>This is not Bhimpalasi at all. It is close to Madhmadh Sarang, with some
>mixture here and there, but almost no g in it.
>
>Bhalchandra Thatte
Thanks for correcting me. It is a Sarang.
Some other Marathi songs in Bhimapalasi that come to my mind:
i.ndraayaNii kaathhii
am^rtaahunii goDa naama tuze
I hope I am right on these.
Pankaj
A.Pavan
>In article <3d0uvd$6...@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>, parr...@spot.Colorado.EDU
>(Rajan P. Parrikar) writes:
>
>|> Also listen to Lata's Meera composition, "karam ki gati nyaari, santoN"
>|> (superbly composed by Hridaynath Mangeshkar). Particularly telling is
>|> the manner in which the line, "moorakh ko tum raaj diyat ho, panDit
>|> phirat bhikaari, santoN karam ki gati nyaari" is rendered. How fortunate
>|> |> we are to have had a Lata who could say so much so effortlessly!
>|> Within
>|> a space of a few notes she uncorks the magic of Raga Hamsadhwani.
>|>
>|>
>
>Thanks Rajan, for the help, right now I am trying to get that exercise
>done!
>will post the sargam of the antaraa as soon as I get it done, maybe someone
>could correct it.
>
>while you were discussing meera's bhajan, in that particular CD, I love two
>songs more than "karam ki gati nyaari"
>
>one is "Ud jaa re kaaga, ban kaa.."
>can you identify the raag?
>
This song is based on Raga Bhinna Shadja. To see the similarity check
out Kishori's Rendition of "Ud Jaa Re Kaaga". This is on a live recording
of her's at Nehru Center.
Pavan
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Mr Jay Javeri
: hello friends,
: I was just wondering if anyone knew any popular songs in raag bhimpalasi..
: I just learnt it, so I have been looking for such songs, I found some in
: the faq but I had never heard of these songs:
: Aai ri mai to prem diwani mera dard na jane koi
: Bhimpalasi
: Lata
: Navbahar
: Roshan
: Beena madhur madhur kuch bol
: Bhimpalasi
: Lata
: ??
Was not sung by Lata - I think it was Saraswati Rane
Film : Ram Rajya
: Jhankaar payal ki tose binati kare
: Bhimpalasi
: Rafi
: Naag Devata
: SN Tripathi
What about the Bhimpalas to beat all Bhimpalas(es)
Nainon mein badra chhaye
Bhimpalasi
Lata
Mera Saaya
Madan Mohan
: also does anyone have the sargam (notes) for any songs in raag:
: desh,
Saiyan Jao jao
Lata
Jhanak Jhanak Payal Baje
Vasant Desai
Aapko pyar chhupane ki
Asha + Rafi
Neela Akash
Madan Mohan
Aayi ritu saawan ki
Bhupinder & Kumari Faiyaz
Alaap
Jaidev
Bekasi had se jab guzar jaaye
Asha
Kalpana
O. P. Nayyar
Mitwa re bhul gaye hain raahein
Lata
Rahgir
Hemant Kumar
: asawari,
: bhupali,
Jyoti kalash chhalke
Lata
Bhabhi ki chudiyan
Sudhir Phadke
Pankh hote to ud aati re
Lata
Sehra
Ramlal
: hamsadvani,
Ja tose nahin bolun kanhaiya
Lata & Manna Dey
Parivaar
Salil Chowdhury
: kalavati
Kaahe tarsaaye jiyara
Chitralekha
Asha + Usha
Roshan
Haaye re woh din kyun na aaye
Lata
Anuradha (the movie!)
Ravi Shankar
Meghava gagan beech jhaanke
Lata
Harishchandra Taramati
Laxmi-Pyaare
Agar dilbar ki rusvaai hamein...(sanam tu bewafaa ke naam se....)
Lata
Khilona
Laxmi-Pyaare
Ek haseen shaam ko dil mera kho gayaa
Rafi
Dulhan Ek Raat Ki
Madan Mohan
: Thanks in advance