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vrk

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Mar 8, 2007, 9:55:21 PM3/8/07
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I was reading this in the fact of the matter segment of Delhi Times
today. I quote

Manorama, an Indian comic actress has played the maximum leading roles
in the film history. Starting in 1958 she had appeared in her 1000th
movie by 1985.

end quote.

Is this the same "oopar aa jaa moTee" of sita aur geeta fame? does
leading role and lead role mean the same thing?

Afzal A. Khan

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Mar 8, 2007, 11:08:55 PM3/8/07
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Manorama was originally a leading lady. It is difficult to believe
it today, but (in those days) she did have a svelte figure.
('Svelte' = not in the Hollywood sense, though). She had married
Rajen Haksar who did a lot of films as a character artiste later on.

Afzal

UVR

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Mar 8, 2007, 11:09:24 PM3/8/07
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If that's the Manorama they're talking about, then they're surely
mistaken.
She definitely started much before 1953. Here's what the IMDB has to
say -- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0543611/ (that's still not 1000
roles,
but a reporter who can push her starting year "up" can push the
number
of films in the same direction, too. Then again, who said the IMDB is
a comprehensive database?)

-UVR.

Sukesh

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Mar 9, 2007, 1:53:00 AM3/9/07
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On Mar 9, 9:09 am, "UVR" <u...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 8, 6:55 pm, "vrk" <kumar.vr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I was reading this in the fact of the matter segment of Delhi Times
> > today. I quote
>
> > Manorama, an Indian comic actress has played the maximum leading roles
> > in the film history. Starting in 1958 she had appeared in her 1000th
> > movie by 1985.
>
> > end quote.
>
> > Is this the same "oopar aa jaa moTee" of sita aur geeta fame? does
> > leading role and lead role mean the same thing?
>
> If that's the Manorama they're talking about, then they're surely
> mistaken.
> She definitely started much before 1953. Here's what the IMDB has to
> say --http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0543611/ (that's still not 1000

> roles,
> but a reporter who can push her starting year "up" can push the
> number
> of films in the same direction, too. Then again, who said the IMDB is
> a comprehensive database?)
>
> -UVR.

The Amazon web site carrying review of Water says that it is
Manorama's 1301th film (the particular write-up is dated September
2006).

http://www.amazon.com/Water/dp/B00005JP53

Regards
Sukesh

sb

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Mar 9, 2007, 2:07:36 AM3/9/07
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The Manorama referred to as having completed more than 1000 films is
not the one who appeared in Sita aur Geeta. She is a Tamil actor who
started acting by the end of 1950s and debutted as heroine in a B
grade movie. Later she found her mettle flaring better in comedy
(later character) roles. She has acted with four of the Chief
Ministers of Tamil Nadu (with M.Karunanidhi on stage, MGR and
Jayalalitha in Tamil films and NTR in Telegu films). She is still
active in Tamil movies and serials.She acted in a few Hindi movies
also like Mahmood's Kunwaara Baap.
Regards

vrk

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Mar 9, 2007, 6:53:53 AM3/9/07
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oh silly me. indeed you are right. she is the aatchi international avm
lady of simla special fame amongst others.

thanks for the info. I was indeed surprised that the fat manorama
could have done so many movies without me knowing :(

but is she there in water? or is that a third manorama?

Afzal A. Khan

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Mar 9, 2007, 8:35:26 AM3/9/07
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vrk wrote:

There is indeed a second Manorama who is principally a Tamil
actress. But the one you referred to as the "Sita Aur Geeta
moTee" is not the Tamil actress. I have seen the latter in a
few Tamil films where she used to be paired opposite Nagesh.
And she was by no means a "fatso", IIRC. The hindi film actress
I referred to was already a heroine when the Tamil Manorama was
born.

In recent times, (the hindi) Manorama has appeared in some TV
serials too. She should be 80 + now, I guess.


Afzal

Prithviraj Dasgupta

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Mar 9, 2007, 2:43:44 PM3/9/07
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On Mar 9, 7:35 am, "Afzal A. Khan" <me_af...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> vrk wrote:
> > oh silly me. indeed you are right. she is the aatchi international avm
> > lady of simla special fame amongst others.
>
> > thanks for the info. I was indeed surprised that the fat manorama
> > could have done so many movies without me knowing :(
>
> > but is she there in water? or is that a third manorama?
>
> There is indeed a second Manorama who is principally a Tamil
> actress. But the one you referred to as the "Sita Aur Geeta
> moTee" is not the Tamil actress. I have seen the latter in a
> few Tamil films where she used to be paired opposite Nagesh.
> And she was by no means a "fatso", IIRC. The hindi film actress
> I referred to was already a heroine when the Tamil Manorama was
> born.
>

Maybe there's a third Manorama too - the one mentioned on IMDB with
credits from 1926 going upto late 40s.
It's unlikely that either the Tamil or Hindi-film-Manorama acted in
Bengali films from the mid 1920s, while playing motherly roles by
early 1930s. This Manorama no.3 is also credited in a 1944 bengali
film titled 'Udayer Pathe' (bengali version on 1944-ish Humrahi). I
watched this movie recently and I don't think I spotted the hindi film-
Manorama in it. I'll try to double check and confirm soon.

Earliest appearance of Hindi film-Manorama I can recall is in Bimal
Roy's Parineeta('53) where she plays a neighbor+friend of Meena
Kumari's family.

-Prithviraj

Afzal A. Khan

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Mar 9, 2007, 5:37:06 PM3/9/07
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Yes, there definitely was a third Manorama --- the Bengali
actress. Unfortunately, I never had the opportunity (and
the pleasure) of watching any of her movies.

But the Manorama we are talking about (the hindi film
actress) definitely precedes 1953 (old 'Parineeta'). In
a previous mail, I had already mentioned about her figure.
I recall seeing a photograph of this lady in a (one-piece)
swimming suit, and that was around 1950 or 1951.


Afzal

uzx

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Mar 10, 2007, 8:55:47 AM3/10/07
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Manorama (of Hindi/Punjabi) films,unless there were two of them,
acted first time in Khazanchi 1941. Mostly worked in Punjabi films
in Lahore. Koel 1944 (Punjabi) was her most successful movie. She
migrated to India in 1947.

Urzung Khan

Asif

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Mar 9, 2007, 8:31:38 PM3/9/07
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The one you read about is probably the one from Malyalam films:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manorama

Looking at her photo at above website, she is definitely not the
'oopar aa jaa moti' waali.

Afzal A. Khan

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Mar 9, 2007, 8:48:25 PM3/9/07
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I think this lady is the Tamil films Manorama who used to be
paired opposite Nagesh.

Afzal

vrk

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Mar 9, 2007, 10:10:24 PM3/9/07
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i think the one with the 1000 films record is the tamil actress of
kunwara baap fame

the one in water has been erroneously linked by amazon to the 1000
films manorama. just saw a clip of water, it is indeed the "neeche aa
jaa beTee" manorama as madhumati. she has acted well.

Pavan Jha

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Mar 10, 2007, 6:09:38 AM3/10/07
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If you recall Appu Raja (Apoorva Sahodargal), She played Raja's
mother.. unforgettable for the 'Gali's' 'tere munh me keede padein'
etc etc..

On Mar 10, 6:48 am, "Afzal A. Khan" <me_af...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Satish Kalra

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Mar 10, 2007, 10:35:15 AM3/10/07
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"Pavan Jha" <pava...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173524978.3...@n33g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> If you recall Appu Raja (Apoorva Sahodargal), She played Raja's
> mother.. unforgettable for the 'Gali's' 'tere munh me keede padein'
> etc etc..
>

If you think that's unforgettable, think about the gaalii, "tere shariir men
aise kiide paden jo pahale se hii biimaar hon...".

--
Happy Listenings.

Satish Kalra


Sukesh

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Mar 10, 2007, 12:47:31 PM3/10/07
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Too many Manoramas have got mixed up in this thread

Regards
Sukesh

vrk

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Mar 12, 2007, 1:51:42 AM3/12/07
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just read devyani saltzman's shooting water. it has snaps of manorama
too. she says at one point that she started acting at the age of 12 in
1940. her real name is erin isaac daniel and she is half-irish. speaks
english with a faint british accent.

all this seems so incredible. for someone who remembers only the seeta
aur geeta role. got a similar shock when I first heard rabindra
ramnarayan singh or robin singh speak english.

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