Rain songs by RDB
Arun Verma
RDB had special knack for pulling off great Rain numbers. Many
of them are very melodious, and give that special rain feeling.
I'll list down here a few numbers that I absolutely love.
1) Rimjhim Rimjhim dekho baras rahi hai raat,
aaj jo thama hai tumne mera haath re...
Film : Shehzada, singers : KK & Lata
The beats in the background simulate the rain very nicely.
Overall a very melodious number.
2) Bheegi bheegi ratoon mein, meethi meethi baaton mein,
in barsaton mein, kaisa lagta hai? (KK & Lata)
AJNABI is one of the most underrated RDB'S Work. In addition
to above number, there was this train song(again a category
mastered by RDB) 'Hum dono do premi duniya choD chale' really
makes yOU feel that you are riding a train. And ofcourse,
a good soft solo by KK 'Ek ajnabi haseena se yun mulaqat..'.
Its hard to decide, but I like the rain song the most. The
music in the interlude is excellent..kinda makes you feel
that you're getting wet :-)
3) Abke sawan mein jee dare, rimjhim tan pe paani gire,
man mein lage aag si...
NEHLE PE DEHLA, KK & Lata again.
May be not exteremely melodious, but a very good number
nonetheless.
4) Rimjhim gire sawan, sulag sulag jaye man
MANZIL, sung separately by KK & Lata.
This song is among RDB's all time best works. (IMO)
There are many more, e.g 1942 ALS, GARDISH, JURMANA etc.
Nettors please add.
However, one thing lacking is good lyrics(e.g 1,2 and 3).
Lyrics are just OK.
Later
Arun
Nilesh Savargaonkar
>RDB had special knack for pulling off great Rain numbers. Many
>of them are very melodious, and give that special rain feeling.
>I'll list down here a few numbers that I absolutely love.
>There are many more, e.g 1942 ALS, GARDISH, JURMANA etc.
>Nettors please add.
The one I like the most is 'ChhoTiisii kahaanii se, baarishon ke paanii se,
saarii vaadii bhar gayi' from 'Ijaazat'. I liked the picturization of this song
very much , that is a train going through a mountain range when the green valley is
getting soaked in the rain. The lyrics by Gulzaar are also good.
Another rain-song I like is 'Megha re megha re, mat pardes jaa re, aaj tuu prem
kaa sandes barasaa re'(sung by Lata & Suresh Wadkar) from 'Pyaasaa saawan'
(starring Maushami & Jitendra). I have no idea who the MD is for this movie.
- Nilesh
Kamlesh
Arun Verma wrote:
>
> RDB had special knack for pulling off great Rain numbers. Many
> of them are very melodious, and give that special rain feeling.
> I'll list down here a few numbers that I absolutely love.
>
> man mein lage aag si...
>
> NEHLE PE DEHLA, KK & Lata again.
>
> May be not exteremely melodious, but a very good number
> nonetheless.
>
ABKE SAWAN MAIN...........
SONG IS from film Jaise ko taisa. starring jeetendra & reena roy
the song is really beauty.
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Neeraj Deshmukh - The Falcon
In article <834249...@lindt.mcs.anl.gov> ve...@lindt.mcs.anl.gov
(Arun Verma) writes:
> RDB had special knack for pulling off great Rain numbers. Many of
> them are very melodious, and give that special rain feeling. I'll
> list down here a few numbers that I absolutely love.
Lovely topic, Arun... Wonderful thread!
> 1) Rimjhim Rimjhim dekho baras rahi hai raat,
> aaj jo thama hai tumne mera haath re...
>
> Film : Shehzada, singers : KK & Lata
>
> The beats in the background simulate the rain very nicely.
> Overall a very melodious number.
> 2) Bheegi bheegi ratoon mein, meethi meethi baaton mein,
> in barsaton mein, kaisa lagta hai? (KK & Lata)
>
> AJNABI is one of the most underrated RDB'S Work. In addition
> to above number, there was this train song(again a category
> mastered by RDB) 'Hum dono do premi duniya choD chale' really
> makes yOU feel that you are riding a train. And ofcourse,
> a good soft solo by KK 'Ek ajnabi haseena se yun mulaqat..'.
>
> Its hard to decide, but I like the rain song the most. The
> music in the interlude is excellent..kinda makes you feel
> that you're getting wet :-)
Also has a very pleasnat and very very Bengali lilt... :-)
> 3) Abke sawan mein jee dare, rimjhim tan pe paani gire,
> man mein lage aag si...
>
> NEHLE PE DEHLA, KK & Lata again.
>
> May be not exteremely melodious, but a very good number
> nonetheless.
This is one of the KK-Lata-RD combos I absolutely love... it
has a habit of growing up on you...
> 4) Rimjhim gire sawan, sulag sulag jaye man
>
> MANZIL, sung separately by KK & Lata.
>
> This song is among RDB's all time best works. (IMO)
Another awesome number, probably one of the best rain songs
ever...
> There are many more, e.g 1942 ALS, GARDISH, JURMANA etc. Nettors
> please add.
In contrast to popular opinion "Rim jhim rim jhim" is my
favorite song in '1942 ALS' --- I outgrew "ek laDki ko dekha to" soon
after watching Anil kapoor on screen... :-)
There is another lovely rain song in 'Betaab' ---
o "baadal yoon garajta hai" --- in spite of Shabbir...
Not to forget the masti-bharaa
o "bheega bheega pyaara pyaara" from 'Jawaani' with Amit and Asha.
But credit also goes to Bappi Lahiri for a topnotch rain song
---- "Jalta hai jiya mera bheegi bheegi raaton mein" is as awesome as
they get... And I know people who swear by "aaj rapaT jaaye" in 'Namak
halaal'.
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Arun Verma
In article <4pco2t$k...@news.iastate.edu>,
Nilesh Savargaonkar <nil...@iastate.edu> wrote:
>
>
>>RDB had special knack for pulling off great Rain numbers. Many
>>of them are very melodious, and give that special rain feeling.
>>I'll list down here a few numbers that I absolutely love.
>
>>Nettors please add.
>
>saarii vaadii bhar gayi' from 'Ijaazat'. I liked the picturization of this song
>very much , that is a train going through a mountain range when the green valley is
>getting soaked in the rain. The lyrics by Gulzaar are also good.
>
>
>Another rain-song I like is 'Megha re megha re, mat pardes jaa re, aaj tuu prem
>kaa sandes barasaa re'(sung by Lata & Suresh Wadkar) from 'Pyaasaa saawan'
>(starring Maushami & Jitendra). I have no idea who the MD is for this movie.
>
>- Nilesh
Thanks for pointing out the IZAZAT song, never came to my mind
when I made the post. Absolutely wonderful number, beautifully
sung by Asha.
While we are at it, Roshan also did an excellent job at Rain
songS In BARSAT KI RAT and Rajkamal Had a beauty
of a rain song in CHASME BADDOR, 'Kahan se aaye badra..'
Arun
Veena S Nayak
I think the best rain song by RDB; actually, make that the best
rain song EVER, is "rim jim gire saawan" from Manzil. This is one
example where the female version(Lata) of a tandem song is better
than the male's (KK). Never fails to evoke the romanticism of the
good ol' Indian monsoon. (as compared to the sickly drizzles of
Buffalo).
A very close second is "aaj rapat jaaye" (KK-Asha) from "Namak
Halal". Makes one wish that Bappi has relied on his own talents
more often :)
Veena.
--
Harish Suvarna
How can we forget 'pyaar hua ikraar hua' from sri420,
lovely rain song. An exception.
When we are discussing these rain songs, we
obviously are looking for great romantic mood in the songs. Going by
the standards of hindi film industry real romance in rain songs
is not packed until early seventies. In my opinion, The romantic mood
in a rain song is predominantly due to the kind of dance, and due to
the kind of dressing hero/heroines wear.
I would say that Sharmilaa/Mumtazz brought this great
romance in rain songs to hindi film industry a lot. Before that,
the hindi film heroine was very conservative and did not express
all feelings openly as that generation had it's own
rules/regulations.
Let me remember some more great songs of rain.
This is a real good thread.
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Kuntal Shah
This one, although not a rain song, could have been used in such a
situation :
Bhiga badan jalne laga ( Abdulla )
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Kuntal.
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Arun Verma
Recalled one more terrific rain number by RDB,
'jaane kaise beetengi ye barsaten..' (Lata)
from a lesser known RDB-Gulzar combo, BASERA.
Arun
Mahesh Chaubal
And while we have this rain thing going, let me mention a great
RDB composition, sung by Lata:
Abke naa saawan barse, abke baras tau barasegi ankhiyaan
from Kinara, lyrics by Gulzar (May not exactly categorize as a rain song)
I'll refrain from listing chhed-chhad songs of KK since i know the
Rafians can flood us with those kinds from shammi k movies.
And while the spate of trivia quizzes is on, I'll remind the Q-masters
that the Flo-Jo interactive quiz (which hasnt been too active lately) is a
better forum for such quizzes rather than the NG (IMO).
Mahesh
Harish Suvarna
Sai Prasad
Veena S Nayak wrote:
>
> I think the best rain song by RDB; actually, make that the best
> rain song EVER, is "rim jim gire saawan" from Manzil. This is one
> example where the female version(Lata) of a tandem song is better
> than the male's (KK). Never fails to evoke the romanticism of the
> good ol' Indian monsoon. (as compared to the sickly drizzles of
> Buffalo).
I *loved* the way this song was picturised - Amitabh and Moushmi on the streets of
Mumbai (methinks Marine Drive), heavy downpour, waves lashing, KK's resounding voice
in the background - truly captured the mood of the song and Mumbai monsoon. One can
listen to this song over and over again without ever outgrowing it.
Sai Prasad
One of my favorites from "Jurmana"(AB, Rakhee):
Saawan ke jhoole paday
Tum chale aao,...
Anand Kuppuswamy
Hi,
In article <4pdc1q$m...@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu>, vna...@acsu.buffalo.edu says...
>
>
>I think the best rain song by RDB; actually, make that the best
>rain song EVER, is "rim jim gire saawan" from Manzil. This is one
>example where the female version(Lata) of a tandem song is better
>than the male's (KK). Never fails to evoke the romanticism of the
>good ol' Indian monsoon. (as compared to the sickly drizzles of
>Buffalo).
'Rim jhim gire saawan' is, indeed, one of RD's best work and was beautifully
rendered by Kishore ... I haven't heard the Lata version! You are also very right
about the 'lousy-drizzles' in many parts of this country! ... Buffalo, NY has
elite company!! :-)
> A very close second is "aaj rapat jaaye" (KK-Asha) from "Namak
>Halal". Makes one wish that Bappi has relied on his own talents
>more often :)
>
That is a very good and sensuous song! I like the song ... Bappi did come up with
some very nice, original tunes ...
... once every blue-moon! :-)
There is this great song from 'Jurmana' ...
... Main pyasa thum saa..avan
main dil thum meri dhadkan
ho na .... thum tho
ho ho na ... thum tho ...
...apologies for he bias ... but I just am not able to hang my ears on most
of the music (so called! :-) ) churned out, these days, by a majority of our MDs
and singers!
... and to think that I belong to this generation!!
regards, :)
Anand
Sai Prasad
Anand Kuppuswamy wrote:
>
> There is this great song from 'Jurmana' ...
>
> ... Main pyasa thum saa..avan
> main dil thum meri dhadkan
> ho na .... thum tho
> ho ho na ... thum tho ...
>
>
This is definitely *not* from Jurmana. If my memory serves me right,
it's from "Faraar" *ing Amitabh, Sanjeev and I think, Sharmila Tagore.
- Sai Prasad
Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Veena" == Veena S Nayak <vna...@acsu.buffalo.edu> writes:
Veena> I think the best rain song by RDB; actually, make that the
Veena> best rain song EVER, is "rim jim gire saawan" from
Veena> Manzil. This is one example where the female version(Lata)
Veena> of a tandem song is better than the male's (KK).
Couldn't agree less.
Veena S Nayak
In article <31BADD...@atl.mindspring.com>,
Sai Prasad <sa...@atl.mindspring.com> wrote:
>I *loved* the way this song was picturised - Amitabh and Moushmi on the streets of
>Mumbai (methinks Marine Drive), heavy downpour, waves lashing, KK's resounding voice
>in the background - truly captured the mood of the song and Mumbai monsoon. One can
>listen to this song over and over again without ever outgrowing it.
You have the two picturizations mixed up. The Amitabh-Moushmi
frolic on Bombay's Marine Drive has Lata's song in the background.
Kishore's version is right at the start of the movie. Moushmi is
walking on the streets and our man is walking right behind her.
She thinks he is a shady guy following her and all that and fights
with him. Then she lands up at the party where she was headed and
it turns out that Amitabh is the gaayak invited to sing there. Th
That's where the Kishore version is sung.
The movie was quite mediocre (with Moushmi in it, what else can it be).
Don't know how Lata's version got picturized so well.
Veena.
Harish Suvarna
vna...@acsu.buffalo.edu (Veena S Nayak) wrote:
> You have the two picturizations mixed up. The Amitabh-Moushmi
>frolic on Bombay's Marine Drive has Lata's song in the background.
>Kishore's version is right at the start of the movie. Moushmi is
>walking on the streets and our man is walking right behind her.
>She thinks he is a shady guy following her and all that and fights
>with him. Then she lands up at the party where she was headed and
>it turns out that Amitabh is the gaayak invited to sing there. Th
>That's where the Kishore version is sung.
> The movie was quite mediocre (with Moushmi in it, what else can it be).
>Don't know how Lata's version got picturized so well.
>
>Veena.
I disagree with Vina on Moushmi point.
Is'nt there a rain song in
film Anurodh, where rajesh Khanna steals the rumaal of heroine?
I vaguely remember.
-harish
Nilesh Savargaonkar
>Is'nt there a rain song in
>film Anurodh, where rajesh Khanna steals the rumaal of heroine?
>I vaguely remember.
The song is 'aate jaate khoobsoorat aawaaraa saDakon pe'(sung by KK)
That's not exactly a rain song.
One other rain song is 'Haay haay yeh majboorii, yeh mausam aur yeh doorii'(sung
by Lata and picturized on Zeenat Amaan) from 'Roti, kapada aur makaan'.
MD?
- Nilesh.
NIsha
In <4phl7j$9...@news.iastate.edu> nil...@iastate.edu (Nilesh
Savargaonkar) writes:
>
>
>>Is'nt there a rain song in
>>film Anurodh, where rajesh Khanna steals the rumaal of heroine?
>>I vaguely remember.
>
recalling seeing this girl in the rain and she dropped her rumaal in
the rain...
Arun Verma
Not sure whether this is actually a rain number, I can't
recall the lyrics (haven't heard in ages). 'Kajre badarwa re'
by Lata, from PATI PATNI, one of early RDB's films.
A nice semi-classical number..lyrics anybody?
Arun
vipa
How about the rain song from Lamhe and chandni.
I know there are a few of them in chandni.
Vipa
Kuntal M Daftary
Kuntal Shah wrote:
> Veena> I think the best rain song by RDB; actually, make that the
> Veena> best rain song EVER, is "rim jim gire saawan" from
cud not agree more...
reminds me of the moments we spent at chai li laari
outside the hostel, with rains, slightly cold wind,
hot tea in one hand and a smoke in the other...
with this song playing on the cassette player at the lari...
perhaps also devouring the fantastic bhurji of rameshbhai
wow!
--
bye for now...
kuntal
yeh hamari badnaseebi jo nahin to aur kyaa hai
ke usi ke ho gaye hum jo na ho sakaa hamaraa...
Harish Suvarna
Kuntal M Daftary <daf...@ecn.purdue.edu> wrote:
>Kuntal Shah wrote:
>
>> Veena> I think the best rain song by RDB; actually, make that the
>> Veena> best rain song EVER, is "rim jim gire saawan" from
>
> cud not agree more...
>
> reminds me of the moments we spent at chai li laari
> outside the hostel, with rains, slightly cold wind,
> hot tea in one hand and a smoke in the other...
> with this song playing on the cassette player at the lari...
> perhaps also devouring the fantastic bhurji of rameshbhai
>
> wow!
>
Han Daftary bhai,
Koi louta de mere bite hue din o mere
Koi Louta De mere bite hue din o mere
bite hue din o mere pyaar pal chin...
Wow, there must be some more great songs which discuss about
past beautiful past moments.
Yeh bolo ki, chai credit pe tha ya nahin. credit ka chai me tho aur
thoda taste aatha hai. :-)
-harish
Shyam Uttarwar
Nilesh Savargaonkar wrote:
> One other rain song is 'Haay haay yeh majboorii, yeh mausam aur yeh doorii'(sung
> by Lata and picturized on Zeenat Amaan) from 'Roti, kapada aur makaan'.
> MD?
>
Laxmikant Pyarelal
- Shyam
> - Nilesh.
Kuntal M Daftary
vipa wrote:
> How about the rain song from Lamhe and chandni.
> I know there are a few of them in chandni.
i just remember one from chaandni...
"lagi aaj saawan ki phir woh jhadi hai..."
Sai Prasad
I remember a song from "Dil Padosi Hai" (Asha-RD-Gulzar):
"Saawan sasuraa sathaaye"
It has a folkish tune and I think it's based on the raag Pilu (correct me
if I'm wrong).
- Sai Prasad
Devendra
From Jurmaana. AMitabh -rekha
sawan ke jhule pade
tum chale aao
LM
Kishore Krshna
In article <834249...@lindt.mcs.anl.gov>, ve...@lindt.mcs.anl.gov says...
>
>RDB had special knack for pulling off great Rain numbers. Many
>of them are very melodious, and give that special rain feeling.
>I'll list down here a few numbers that I absolutely love.
I believe I posted this before, but what the heck - EMI released
a cassette titled "Bol re papihara" Rain songs of Gulzar in '92
which may be of interest to you guys. It has:
1) chhotisi kahani se - Ijaazat, Asha, RDB
2) sunio ji ek araj - lekin, lata, hridaynath M
3) bol re papihara - guddi, vani jairam, vasant desai
4) jhir jhir barse - aashirwad, lata, vasant desai
5) allah megh de - palkon ki chhaon mein, Kishore & Asha, LP
6) phirse aaiyo badra bidesi - namkeen, asha, RDB
7) badi der se megha barsa - namkeen, asha, RDB
8) ab ke na sawan barse - kinara, lata, RDB
Lyrically they are all beautiful - but 1 & even more so 6 are incredible
& haunting. They are both much better than rimjhim gire sawan which
has nothing more than a pleasant tune to recommend it.
--
Kishore Krshna
kis...@mail.utexas.edu
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Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Anand" == Anand Kuppuswamy <akup...@vt.edu> writes:
Anand> ...apologies for he bias ... but I just am not able to
Anand> hang my ears on most of the music (so called! :-) ) churned
Anand> out, these days, by a majority of our MDs and singers!
Anand> ... and to think that I belong to this generation!!
Don't feel [bs]ad... that's not your fault :-)
And be sure, next generation of MDs/singers will make you feel even
better !!!
Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Kuntal" == Kuntal M Daftary <daf...@ecn.purdue.edu> writes:
Kuntal> vipa wrote:
>> How about the rain song from Lamhe and chandni. I know there
>> are a few of them in chandni.
Kuntal> i just remember one from chaandni...
Kuntal> "lagi aaj saawan ki phir woh jhadi hai..."
Hey, did you forget this one from Chandani :
"Parbat se kaali ghata takrayi paani ne kaisi ye aag lagayi".
Narendernath Miriyala
In article <4pco2t$k...@news.iastate.edu>, nil...@iastate.edu (Nilesh
Savargaonkar) wrote:
> Another rain-song I like is 'Megha re megha re, mat pardes jaa re, aaj
tuu prem
> kaa sandes barasaa re'(sung by Lata & Suresh Wadkar) from 'Pyaasaa saawan'
> (starring Maushami & Jitendra). I have no idea who the MD is for this movie.
>
> - Nilesh
The Music for Pyasa Sawan was by LP.
vipa
Kuntal M Daftary wrote:
>
> vipa wrote:
>
> > How about the rain song from Lamhe and chandni.
> > I know there are a few of them in chandni.
>
>
The song from Lamhe is "Megha re megha.. Tera man tarsa re pani kyu
barsa re tune kisko yaad kiya"
And I can't remember the lyrics but the song I meant from Chandni was
the one that Sri and Rishi sings and I think it goes like. paani ne
aisi aag lagai.. something something...
Regards
Vipa
Saurabh Bhatnagar
Veena S Nayak wrote:
>
> I think the best rain song by RDB; actually, make that the best
> rain song EVER, is "rim jim gire saawan" from Manzil. This is one
> example where the female version(Lata) of a tandem song is better
> than the male's (KK). Never fails to evoke the romanticism of the
> good ol' Indian monsoon. (as compared to the sickly drizzles of
> Buffalo).
note where he sings Sulag Sulag Jaaye Man, something which the Lata's
version does not come close to either duplicating or matching. No offense
to lata though
> A very close second is "aaj rapat jaaye" (KK-Asha) from "Namak
> Halal". Makes one wish that Bappi has relied on his own talents
> more often :)
You must be kidding. This song is at best rumbuctious, and at worst
raunchy and crass. While I do agree with the second part some of the
songs from Sharabi (Manzilen Apni Jagah hain, inteha ho gayi) and a
song from Saaheb
Some other Favorite Rain Songs (Some actually most just mention rain/clouds) In no particular order
1.Megha re megha (Lata, Ila Arun & Chorus, Music Shiv-Hari Film: Lamhe Lyrics Anand Bakshi)
2.Dum Dum Diga Diga (Mukesh, Music:Shankar Jaikishan Film:Chaliya Lyrics:Shailendra)
3.Megh De Pani De (SD Burman , Music SD Burman Film:Guide Lyrics:Traditional)
4.Lapak Jhapak Tu Aa Re Badarwa((Manna Dey, Other details unknown Film probably Boot Polish ) I know this
song is picturised on David.
More later
Saurabh
>
> Veena.
> --
>
>
>
Rama Karedla
Greetings Folks !
Another beautiful rain song by RDB is from
the film "Jaise to Taisa", starring our very own
Jeetubhai..!
The song "Ab ke Saawan main bhi dare,
Rim Jhim Tan pe paani gire,
Man mein lage aag si"
was sung by Kishore and Lata..
A beautiful song ! unfortunately didn't get very
popular since the movie was a flop..But was a
regular for some time on the "Aap ki Pasand" program
(8 a.m to 9 a.m) on Radio Ceylon.
- rama
Neeraj Mittal
In article <31BE85...@infolab.com>, Saurabh Bhatnagar <sau...@infolab.com> writes:
> Veena S Nayak wrote:
> >
> > I think the best rain song by RDB; actually, make that the best
> > rain song EVER, is "rim jim gire saawan" from Manzil. This is one
> > example where the female version(Lata) of a tandem song is better
> > than the male's (KK). Never fails to evoke the romanticism of the
> > good ol' Indian monsoon. (as compared to the sickly drizzles of
> > Buffalo).
How about "Garjat barsat sawan aayo re" from Barsaat ki raat
Lyrics : Sahir , Music : Roshan
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Manzil mile, mile na mile koyee gham naheen
Manzil ki justju mein mera carvan to hei
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NIsha
>While I agree that "rim jhim" is a lovely number, one of my favorite
rain songs by
>RDB is "ab ke na saawan barase..." from Kinara. Rather than most of
the lilting
>tunes mentioned in this thread, this one has resonates with deep
pathos, resulting
>from remembering a lost loved one. The exquisite use of Sarod (one of
RD's favorite
>instruments -the other being mouth organ-, the one he learned from
Ustad Ali Akbar
>Khan, whenever he wanted to evoke a somber mood) and Santoor, combined
with
>Latabai's soulful rendition, make this song a rare gem.
>
>I truly believe that RDB has a level of sophistication, even in pain
and sorrow,
>that is unlike any other composer. Whenever I hear his songs of
sorrow, I hear a
>person who is deeply hurt or pained but is almost embarassed to
express it. There is
>a restraint in his expression. Just when you feel that he will go over
the edge, he
>turns around. This is so different from most other composers (I will
talk about this
>at some other time in more detail) who have been guilty of turning a
melodious
>number into a melodramatic one many a times.
>
>"Ab ke na saawan barase..." supplements this notion perfectly...
>
>Pranav
>
Pranav,
What a beautiful song, you have remembered, I love this song aswell
nisha
Saurabh Bhatnagar
Harish Suvarna wrote:
> I disagree with Vina on Moushmi point.
>
> film Anurodh, where rajesh Khanna steals the rumaal of heroine?
> I vaguely remember.
And RK does not steal the Rumal, she drops it
As the lyrics further elucidate
Jo giraya hai kisi ne jaan kar, Jiska ho le jaaye woh Pehchaan Kar
Warna Main rakh loonga uska apna Jaan Kar, Kisi Husn wale ki Nishani Maan kar
Not a true RAIN song, he is in a recording studio, She (Simple Kapadia) is
drooling all over the song standing in front of the radio.
Saurabh
Harish Suvarna
Thanx sourabh. I remember a rainy shot in that. I think Nisha Mohan also
pointed out that in this thread. But can't remember well.
How about 'dekho bijli dole bin baadal ke... cham cham bharse ..'
My database says that it is a OPN+LM combination although both
of them did'nt work much. Does anyone know about this?
-Harish
Pranav H Mehta
Kuntal M Daftary <daf...@ecn.purdue.edu> wrote:
>Kuntal Shah wrote:
>
>> Veena> I think the best rain song by RDB; actually, make that the
>> Veena> best rain song EVER, is "rim jim gire saawan" from
>
> cud not agree more...
>
> reminds me of the moments we spent at chai li laari
> outside the hostel, with rains, slightly cold wind,
> hot tea in one hand and a smoke in the other...
> with this song playing on the cassette player at the lari...
> perhaps also devouring the fantastic bhurji of rameshbhai
>
> wow!
>
>
>bye for now...
>kuntal
While I agree that "rim jhim" is a lovely number, one of my favorite rain songs by
Veena S Nayak
In article <31BE85...@infolab.com>,
Saurabh Bhatnagar <sau...@mailgate.infolab.com> wrote:
>Veena S Nayak wrote:
>>
>> I think the best rain song by RDB; actually, make that the best
>> rain song EVER, is "rim jim gire saawan" from Manzil. This is one
>> example where the female version(Lata) of a tandem song is better
>> than the male's (KK). Never fails to evoke the romanticism of the
>> good ol' Indian monsoon. (as compared to the sickly drizzles of
>> Buffalo).
>note where he sings Sulag Sulag Jaaye Man, something which the Lata's
>version does not come close to either duplicating or matching. No offense
>to lata though
>
>> A very close second is "aaj rapat jaaye" (KK-Asha) from "Namak
>> Halal". Makes one wish that Bappi has relied on his own talents
>> more often :)
>You must be kidding. This song is at best rumbuctious, and at worst
>raunchy and crass. While I do agree with the second part some of the
>songs from Sharabi (Manzilen Apni Jagah hain, inteha ho gayi) and a
>song from Saaheb
>
I cannot let this pass either :) There are several reasons why
some songs are better liked than others despite the fact that the
latter may be "musically superior". The former may appeal to one's
emotions better or may evoke nostalgia or simply be more fun. Notice
that in the "rain songs" thread, nobody even mentioned the rain song
"barse puhaar" by Asha in Thodisi Bewafayee. There is nothing to fault
in either the lyrics or the music or the singing. But the song is
just *boring*. I like Lata's version of "rimjhim" better than KK's
simply becos Lata's version is more evocative of the Indian monsoon
*for me* than KK's. His verison is sung at a party for God's sake!
Now! We come to the second song. Why the hell should I be kidding?
I like that song. In my entire post, nowhere did I state anything
more than that. And why is the song raunchy and crass? Is it the lyrics?
By that standard, any song with implied desire in it would come
under that category. (Apparently, there was a time when the KK-Asha
duet "aanchal mein kya ji, rupehra badal.." was deemed vulgar.)
The singing? Come on, KK and Asha sound like they enjoyed themselves
thouroughly while singing that song. And why not? They are, after all,
singing for a couple who are doing just that onscreen.
So, I was not cracking jokes; just stating my preferences. Plain and
simple.
Veena.
Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Nilesh" == Nilesh Savargaonkar <nil...@iastate.edu> writes:
Nilesh> Another rain-song I like is 'Megha re megha re, mat pardes
Nilesh> jaa re, aaj tuu prem kaa sandes barasaa re'(sung by Lata &
Nilesh> Suresh Wadkar) from 'Pyaasaa saawan' (starring Maushami &
Nilesh> Jitendra). I have no idea who the MD is for this movie.
Laxmikant-Pyarelal.
Chetan
In article <4pm3tc$l...@fido.asd.sgi.com>, Harish Suvarna <sundu> wrote:
>How about 'dekho bijli dole bin baadal ke... cham cham bharse ..'
>My database says that it is a OPN+LM combination although both
>of them did'nt work much. Does anyone know about this?
'dekho bijli...' is Asha. All the way. Lata has NEVER recorded for OP.
The closest encounter was for OP's first(?) film Aasmaan where he composed
a song for her but later had Rajkumari sing it. Guess we will never know
what treasures could have emerged out of a collabration of these two
film music giants !
C
Ashok
In article <4pp7fd$k...@clarknet.clark.net>, cvin...@telogy.com says...
>
>In article <4pm3tc$l...@fido.asd.sgi.com>, Harish Suvarna <sundu> wrote:
>
>>How about 'dekho bijli dole bin baadal ke... cham cham bharse ..'
>>My database says that it is a OPN+LM combination although both
>>of them did'nt work much. Does anyone know about this?
>
>'dekho bijli...' is Asha. All the way.
I don't think so. Isn't there a Mangeshkar in that song (UM)?
Ashok
Nilesh Savargaonkar
>
>>How about 'dekho bijli dole bin baadal ke... cham cham bharse ..'
>>My database says that it is a OPN+LM combination although both
>>of them did'nt work much. Does anyone know about this?
>
>'dekho bijli...' is Asha. All the way.
^^^^^^^^^^^
>>I don't think so. Isn't there a Mangeshkar in that song (UM)?
>>Ashok
'Dekho bijali dole bin baadal ke' sounds like a duet but the 'other' voice always
sings with Asha's voice. Probably it is Usha Mangeshkar.
Also the words are 'cham cham chamake maathe ki bindiya'(not cham cham barase)
- Nilesh
Shailesh Phansalkar
In article <4pg4vf$3...@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu>,
Veena S Nayak <vna...@acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote:
>In article <31BADD...@atl.mindspring.com>,
>Sai Prasad <sa...@atl.mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>I *loved* the way this song was picturised - Amitabh and Moushmi on the streets of
>>Mumbai (methinks Marine Drive), heavy downpour, waves lashing, KK's resounding voice
>>in the background - truly captured the mood of the song and Mumbai monsoon. One can
>>listen to this song over and over again without ever outgrowing it.
>
> You have the two picturizations mixed up. The Amitabh-Moushmi
>frolic on Bombay's Marine Drive has Lata's song in the background.
>Kishore's version is right at the start of the movie. Moushmi is
>walking on the streets and our man is walking right behind her.
>She thinks he is a shady guy following her and all that and fights
>with him. Then she lands up at the party where she was headed and
>it turns out that Amitabh is the gaayak invited to sing there. Th
>That's where the Kishore version is sung.
> The movie was quite mediocre (with Moushmi in it, what else can it be).
>Don't know how Lata's version got picturized so well.
>
>Veena.
I like Lata's version equally.
Great song.
- shailesh
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Ashok
In article <4pmsuq$12...@chnews.ch.intel.com>, pranav_...@ccm.ch.intel.com says...
>
>I truly believe that RDB has a level of sophistication, even in pain and sorrow,
>that is unlike any other composer.
Hello know-all true believer,
For a long time, RMIM has been on the lookout for there to emerge an omniscient
being, who is thoroughly knowledgeable about all the music directors ever to
compose a Hindi film song. Looks like our prayers are answered and our wating
hasn't been in vain. I look forward to a comprehensive series of learned
expositions on the crudeness, weakness, and blunders of all the music
directors of India except one.
Whenever I hear his songs of sorrow, I hear a
>person who is deeply hurt or pained but is almost embarassed to express it. There is
>a restraint in his expression. Just when you feel that he will go over the edge, he
>turns around. This is so different from most other composers (I will talk about this
>at some other time in more detail) who have been guilty of turning a melodious
>number into a melodramatic one many a times.
>
Do so. So far, you've come across just like an ignorant, bigoted
typical "ugly American" would, the one that loves his beefsteak, done
medium-rare, and is supremely contemptuous every other form of food
under the sun. Let us see if you have calibrated your claims to fit
the limits of your knowldge/ignorance divide any better than such a one.
Ashok
>"Ab ke na saawan barase..." supplements this notion perfectly...
>
>Pranav
>
Ashok
Rizwan M. Syed
Hello,
I've been away for about 3-4 weeks, so sorry if its already been mentioned,
but I can't believe I haven't seen 'Bheegi bheegi raato.n mei.n' mentioned
in this Thread. Definitely the best RD rain song, Music-wise. Maybe the best
overall, surpassing 'Rimjhim giray saavan' by a smidgen.
Rizwan
Rizwan M. Syed
> Another beautiful rain song by RDB is from
> the film "Jaise to Taisa", starring our very own
> Jeetubhai..!
Hey, your mentioning Jetubhai reminded me of an awesome Rafi/Lata song,
"Haae ray haae, neend nahee aaye" Picturized on Jeetu and Hema..
Anyone know the MD? Haven't heard it in a long time, but could
it have been the loRD?
Rizwan
Kuntal Shah
>>>>> "Rizwan" == Rizwan M Syed <riz...@sparco.com> writes:
Rizwan> In <31BF01...@starch.enet.dec.com> Rama Karedla
Rizwan> <ram...@starch.enet.dec.com> writes:
>> Another beautiful rain song by RDB is from the film "Jaise to
>> Taisa", starring our very own Jeetubhai..!
Rizwan> Hey, your mentioning Jetubhai reminded me of an awesome
Rizwan> Rafi/Lata song, "Haae ray haae, neend nahee aaye"
Rizwan> Picturized on Jeetu and Hema.. Anyone know the MD?
Rizwan> Haven't heard it in a long time, but could it have been
Rizwan> the loRD?
Hey Rizwan, it's not Hema but Leena Chandawarkar with Jeetendra in "Humjoli",
the movie that also has the song "Dhal gaya din ho gayi shaam jaane do jaana hai".
Donno about MD.
Pranav H Mehta
I didn't and don't claim to be an "omnicient being" and was merely expressing how I
feel about RD's compositions. BTW, while it's true that since I grew up with his
songs, I have a special soft corner for him, I am deeply fond (and sometimes in awe)
of MDs like SD, SJ, MM, SC, et al. Like all other RMIMers, I have an opinion and
yes, at times, a very passionate one, and like others I would like to share it with
others. I refuse, however, to respond to this kind of language and don't feel
obligated to take up your challenge. This is a newsgroup where people share their
views on indian music and let's keep it to that.
I have enjoyed the views of some of the RMIMers, like Chetan, Snehal, Sami, Shyam
U...just to name a few (and I know there are a lot of them)...and am just amazed at
their wealth of knowledge on Indian Music. I would really appreciate (sorry for
using a 'typical American' phrase, but I do mean this) if you could allow others to
enrich themselves by exchanging ideas/opinions/critiques rather than resorting to
this kind of personal attacks.
Regards,
Pranav
Arun Verma
In article <4qbr5r$2f...@chnews.ch.intel.com>,
Pranav H Mehta <pranav_...@ccm.ch.intel.com> wrote:
>
>I didn't and don't claim to be an "omnicient being" and was merely expressing how I
>feel about RD's compositions. BTW, while it's true that since I grew up with his
>songs, I have a special soft corner for him, I am deeply fond (and sometimes in awe)
>of MDs like SD, SJ, MM, SC, et al. Like all other RMIMers, I have an opinion and
>yes, at times, a very passionate one, and like others I would like to share it with
>others. I refuse, however, to respond to this kind of language and don't feel
>obligated to take up your challenge. This is a newsgroup where people share their
>views on indian music and let's keep it to that.
>
>I have enjoyed the views of some of the RMIMers, like Chetan, Snehal, Sami, Shyam
>U...just to name a few (and I know there are a lot of them)...and am just amazed at
>their wealth of knowledge on Indian Music. I would really appreciate (sorry for
>using a 'typical American' phrase, but I do mean this) if you could allow others to
>enrich themselves by exchanging ideas/opinions/critiques rather than resorting to
>this kind of personal attacks.
>
>Regards,
>
>Pranav
>
>
*gulp* uh-ohh! Well, I'm sure Ashok had no intention of 'attacking'
you (He just seems much more serious than he actually is). Its just
that he loves doing 'legpulling' once in a while...don't take him
too seriously :)))))))))
Arun
Shyam Uttarwar
Pranav H Mehta wrote:
> I didn't and don't claim to be an "omnicient being" and was merely expressing how I
> feel about RD's compositions. BTW, while it's true that since I grew up with his
> songs, I have a special soft corner for him, I am deeply fond (and sometimes in awe)
> of MDs like SD, SJ, MM, SC, et al. Like all other RMIMers, I have an opinion and
> yes, at times, a very passionate one, and like others I would like to share it with
> others. I refuse, however, to respond to this kind of language and don't feel
> obligated to take up your challenge. This is a newsgroup where people share their
> views on indian music and let's keep it to that.
>
> I have enjoyed the views of some of the RMIMers, like Chetan, Snehal, Sami, Shyam
> U...just to name a few (and I know there are a lot of them)...and am just amazed at
> their wealth of knowledge on Indian Music. I would really appreciate (sorry for
> using a 'typical American' phrase, but I do mean this) if you could allow others to
> enrich themselves by exchanging ideas/opinions/critiques rather than resorting to
> this kind of personal attacks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pranav
Couldn't agree any less, Pranav. Frankly speaking, I was little
surprised
with the tone of Ashok's post. I have been visiting various NGs for
quite a while now and RMIM is the only place I find very enjoyable.
I was totally put off with the personal attacks, dirty comments and
obscene
language that is found on other NGs, especially soc.culture.indian.*.
RMIM is the only place where I find people sensible, mature and good
spirited so I spend all my free time on this NG and have stopped
looking at other NGs.
There have been many discussions on RDBs recently. Personally, I
am not a big fan of him. I rate other MDs like Salil, Madan Mohan,
Naushad, SBD and Roshan much above RDB. But I read and respect
the opinions of RDB lovers. RMIM is for all music lovers and each
one should express his/her opinion without any fear of any personal
attacks. That is the spirit of this NG and lets keep it that way.
- Shyam Uttarwar