Kevin Iyer - RMIMer - Tragic Loss
Surjit Singh
Kevin Iyer was a 17 year old kid who loved old Hindi film music,
discovered RMIM on his own, attended the Denver 2003 meet in guri's
house with his father and brother. I learnt about his passing away on
Saturday and, frankly, have still not recovered from the news.
His obituary is in
http://www.coloradoan.com/news/stories/20031204/obituaries/index.html
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Kevin Iyer
Published Thursday, December 4, 2003
Kevin Krishnan Iyer, 17, of Fort Collins died Saturday, Nov. 29, 2003,
while hiking with his brother, Matthew, and his close friend, Nathan
Hand. Kevin, born Sept. 28, 1986, was a junior at Fort Collins High
School and attended classes at Colorado State University as well.
Kevin was a talented and intelligent individual who enjoyed school,
music, athletics and outdoor adventures. He dedicated himself to his
schoolwork and worked hard to maintain good grades. He also participated
in the high school orchestra, jazz band and the Larimer County Youth
Orchestra. He learned to play the violin, viola, clarinet and piano,
which was clearly his favorite. In addition, Kevin enjoyed listening to
and learning to play Hindi music. He was a dedicated member of the Fort
Collins High School cross country team and also enjoyed hiking and biking.
Kevin was very outspoken, straightforward and independent. Although very
simple and logical, he had a special talent for making people laugh with
his unique sense of humor. Most of all, he was extremely creative in
anything he undertook.
Kevin is survived by his parents, Pam and Hari Iyer; brothers, Matthew
and Geoffrey; sister, Kristin; and nephew, Scott, all of Fort Collins.
A memorial gathering for Kevin will be at 3:30 p.m. Saturday in Room
A-101, Clark Building on the CSU campus. (Parking is available directly
south of Clark Building.) In lieu of flowers, contributions to set up a
scholarship fund for a Fort Collins High School student can be made in
care of Bohlender Funeral Chapel, 121 W. Olive St., Fort Collins, CO 80524.
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Here is the thread he started soon after the Denver 2003 meet:
Miss you terribly terribly, Kevin.
--
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html
BHAGWANTSAGOO
>
>Kevin Iyer was a 17 year old kid who loved old Hindi film music,
>discovered RMIM on his own, attended the Denver 2003 meet in guri's
>house with his father and brother. I learnt about his passing away on
>Saturday and, frankly, have still not recovered from the news.
>
>His obituary is in
>
>http://www.coloradoan.com/news/stories/20031204/obituaries/index.html
I did not have the good fortune of meeting Kevin, but feel as if I did know him
from the comments made by RMIMers at the Denver 2003 "meet".
Having lost 2 brothers at very young ages, I know what Kevin's family must be
going through.
May the Almighty grant Kevin everlasting peace and his family the courage to
cope with their immense loss.
Bhagwant
Satish Kalra
I got the terrible news yesterday, and have been in a shock since
then. I can not even imagine what the parents must be going thru.
What a tragedy. Only a few days ago, while talking to someone about
the Denver meet, I was telling some friends about the talented
brothers and how eagerly we were looking forward to the next year's
meet to listen to Kevin and Matthew performing on a live piano.
Our hearts fgo out for the family. May God give them the strength to
go through this awfully difficult period with courage.
Satish Kalra
Arun Iyengar
http://www.coloradoan.com/news/stories/20031202/sports/748724.html
Didn't know him, haven't met him, but it was really shocking to hear the
news. Life really is so ephemeral....
Nimish, the link to the 2003 Denver meet report is not working. Could you
please put it up again?
A
--
(Remove 999 to reply)
Nimish Pachapurkar
arun_iy...@hotmail.com wrote on 12/12/03 8:12 AM:
Sathya informs me that the original .Mac account has expired. However, he
has provided web-space elsewhere. I have moved it to another site. Please
access it from http://homepage.mac.com/tarana/RMIM2003/RMIMDenver2003.html
The slide show will be made available shortly.
- Nimish
Satish Kalra
Kevin discovered RMIM on his own. He made the efforts to establish
contact with like-minded music lovers, and succeeded. What's more, he
was a fan of Mukesh, especially from the 40's and 50's. As one
veteran RMIMer puts it: How many young kids of today would even like
to listen to vintage Mukesh of the 40's - songs like 'dil ne to diyaa
dhokaa...'. It was not just the songs, Kevin also wanted to see all
the films of Mukesh songs, films like Lekh, Chhoti Chhoti Baaten,
Anuraag, etc., and was continuously trying to find videos/DVDs of such
films.
In just no time at the Denver meet, he had made friends with all those
present at the Denver meet.
His departure hurts, deep within.
Satish Kalra
Srinivas Ganti
"Surjit Singh" <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Kevin Iyer was a 17 year old kid who loved old Hindi film music,
> discovered RMIM on his own, attended the Denver 2003 meet in guri's
> house with his father and brother. I learnt about his passing away on
> Saturday and, frankly, have still not recovered from the news.
While I haven't met Kevin, I have corresponded quite a bit with him
by e-mail and with his father's permission I am reproducing one of
his emails where I asked him about why Mukesh is his favourite
singer.
All I can say is that RMIM will never be the same again...
sg.
>
> Subject:
> Re: One more video store
> From:
> "Kevin Iyer"
> Date:
> Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:20:19 -0600
> My Mukesh fixation is not maybe not quite as big as I make it sound. I
> like all the old singers, it's just that my song preference is
usually
> sad songs. Mukesh's voice is really excellent and he sings sad songs
> well therefore I like him. When Rafi sings sad songs I usually like
> them as well, its just that a smaller percentage of his output is sad
> songs. He does have some good ones like "Yaad Na Jaye" "Toote Huye
> Khwabon Ne" "Duniya Ke Rahkwale" "Raha Gardishon Mein Hardum" but not
> nearly as many good ones as Mukesh. Also Mukesh just sounds better
> because of his voice on most sad songs. I also like music that is
> semi-classical and Mukesh has some very good songs in this catagory,
> however I have not heard much classical from Rafi so I don't know if
> he beats Mukesh here or not. Kishore sings 99% happy loud songs and
> some of them are good but he has practically zero classical or sad.
> The one's I have heard like "Mere Mehboob Qayamat Hogi" "Koi Lauta De
> Mere" ... are good but he doesn't have enough. I like most of
>Talat's songs because he sings more mellow music and lots of ghazals.
Manna
> Dey sings great songs but he doesn't have that many. Lata sings
> absolutely everything so there are some that I like and some that I
> don't. None of their voices really stand out to me, it all depends
> on the songs they sing. So I do listen to the other singers but I like
> a smaller percent of their songs and I don't like their voice as much
> as Mukesh even though they may have better range and technique.
Arun Iyengar
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> All I can say is that RMIM will never be the same again...
Well, on the one hand you have
kal koii mujhako yaad kare
kyuu.N koii mujhako yaad kare
masaruuf zamaanaa mere liye
kyuu.N vaqt apanaa barabaad kare
Honestly how many RMIMers will set aside a few moments to remember Kevin 10
years from now? Not being cynical here but matter-of-factly people tend to
move on with their lives sooner or later. It's almost as if none of our
lives ever mattered.
And then there is
zi.ndagii kaa safar hai ye kaisaa safar
koii samajhaa nahii.n koii jaanaa nahii.n
hai ye kaisii Dagar chalate hai.n sab magar
koii samajhaa nahii.n koii jaanaa nahii.n
Nobody knows what's going on in this world. We just exist for the sake of
existence.
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
> Honestly how many RMIMers will set aside a few moments to remember Kevin
10
> years from now? Not being cynical here but matter-of-factly people tend to
> move on with their lives sooner or later. It's almost as if none of our
> lives ever mattered.
I believe at least some will, certainly those who were fortunate enough to
meet him at the Denver Meet (I was not one of them). "Moving on" and
remembering Kevin are not, IMO, mutually exclusive. In any case, even if you
are right that none of our lives matter, we are probably not any happier by
thinking of things that way.
Sanjeev
UVR
>
> Honestly how many RMIMers will set aside a few moments to remember Kevin 10
> years from now? Not being cynical here but matter-of-factly people tend to
> move on with their lives sooner or later. It's almost as if none of our
'Remembrance' is of two kinds.
When the wound of loss is fresh and the pain new, one remembers the
person lost, the things they said or did, their walk, their talked,
(and even) their touch, their smell ... Even the mere suggestion of
"life is ephemeral and inconsequential", however true, can come
across as being very insensitive and offending at such times, and,
inasmuch as that, I think your statements, Arun, were singularly
ill-timed.
But the dearly beloved seldom depart without leaving a part of
themselves behind, without touching our lives, without affecting
a change, however minuscule, in us. It is thus by the mere act
of being ourselves, then, that we remember those that are no
longer with us.
If you had met Kevin Iyer, I believe you too would have been struck
by the simple-hearted passion of this young boy for music, and his
love for a singer to whom he felt connected and drawn. I speak only
for myself, of course, but I think that like me, *all* those present
at Guri-&-Gargi's that fond weekend past felt (strangely) enriched
by the experience of meeting Kevin and Matthew. Perhaps because in
their earnest enthusiasm we saw a bit of our own selves in days past,
of our own childhood joy at discovering the kind of music which is
now a part of our lives. Perhaps because in them we found a selfish
vindication of a stance that most of us take: that "our" music is
timeless and eternal, and you only have to pay it an honest ear to
fall in love with it, "see, I told you so". Perhaps because like me,
others too were looking forward to meeting Kevin again next year,
and it feels terrible to know that we will never be able to do so.
Ever again.
> Nobody knows what's going on in this world. We just exist for the sake of
> existence.
Perhaps. It is also true, however, that by the simple act of our
existence, we affect, sometimes profoundly, those whom we come into
contact with. And vice versa.
-UVR.
naniwadekar
"UVR" <u...@usa.net> wrote -
> >
> > Honestly how many RMIMers will set aside a few moments
> > to remember Kevin 10
>
> 'Remembrance' is of two kinds.
>
> "life is ephemeral and inconsequential", however true, can come
> across as being very insensitive and offending at such times, and,
> inasmuch as that, I think your statements, Arun, were singularly
> ill-timed.
>
I think the chief culprit here is Ganti's exaggerated remark
that 'RMIM will never be the same again'. I groaned when
I read it but let it pass because I could not counter it
without sounding insensitive and ill-timed.
I had never met Kevin Iyer but still the news of his death
was very cruel. His private email to Ganti, quoted in this
thread, shows astonishing maturity for a 17 year old and
it made the pain more acute. Yet he hadn't even begun to
contribute to RMIM in any significant manner. So some
speculation on the lines of 'what might have been' would
have been more proper. I agree with UVR and Sanjeev
that Arun could have avoided making his post but let
me place on record the mitigating factor behind Arun's post.
And, please, please, please, could we avoid improper
greetings like 'Hi' and solecisms, albeit they are far less
jarring, like 'I *have* not met the deceased' in obituary
threads? In my opinion, the forum is seriously diminished
by misplaced informality.
- dn
Arun Iyengar
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> When the wound of loss is fresh and the pain new, one remembers the
> person lost, the things they said or did, their walk, their talked,
> (and even) their touch, their smell ... Even the mere suggestion of
> "life is ephemeral and inconsequential", however true, can come
> across as being very insensitive and offending at such times, and,
> inasmuch as that, I think your statements, Arun, were singularly
> ill-timed.
I really feel the pain of Kevin's untimely demise so much so that I have
felt guilty to be happy the last few days. It was just my frustration and
helplessness at such an unjust happening that made me say whatever I said. I
can't even begin to fathom the events leading to his death. My cousin's
untimely and equally unjust demise last year and my friend's car accident
which has left him in a vegetative state for almost 5 years now came rushing
through to me even as I read Surjitji's post. Just the realization that life
seems so meaningless is at times simply overbearing...
Surjit Singh
>
> And, please, please, please, could we avoid improper
> greetings like 'Hi' and solecisms, albeit they are far less
Dear Nani:
I used to write "Dear RMIMers", but I found out that not all RMIMers
think of me as Dear and neither do I think all of them as Dear. If you
object to Hi, please make some good suggestions.
>
> - dn
Rirfan6
More than thirty years ago I read a couple of lines some where. I could
not recall who said/wrote that :
' Life is short Art is long, opportunity
fleeting, reasoning difficult and experimentation dangerous'.
These lines are haunting me ever since
I read the news of Kevin's death.
Regards,
Irfan
Surjit Singh
Rirfan6 wrote:
It is the first aphorism of Hippocrates of the Doctors' Oath fame.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/medieval/english.html
Hippocrates. The whole aphorismes of great Hippocrates ... translated
into English ... of the Greek and Latine tongs. London : Printed by H.L.
for Richard Redmer, 1610.
The Aphorisms were popular well into the 17th century. Here the first
aphorism is translated:
The life of man is short, the Art of Physicke long, occasion suddaine,
experie[n]ce uncertain, judgement difficult.
>
> Regards,
>
> Irfan
Rirfan6
Thanks a lot Prof. Saheb.
Warm regards,
Irfan
naniwadekar
"Surjit Singh" <surjit...@yahoo.com> wrote -
>
> naniwadekar wrote:
> >
> > And, please, please, please, could we avoid improper
>
> If you object to Hi, please make some good suggestions.
>
A standard impulse in such case would be to look for
precedence or any other practice in vogue which you
could use when your own standard practice (of starting
your posts with the 'Hi' salutation) is rather avoided.
The alternative can be figured out easily since many of
us start our posts without any preamble. That mode
would have suited the announcement. In case you
strongly preferred a preamble for the sad announcement,
you could have begun with the simple vocative : 'Friends -' .
The phrase, "I announce with a heavy heart", is another
standard and suitable choice.
A gentleman, who was perhaps born in the 19th C, once
told me some very simple but profound and sensible rules
governing communication regarding death. One of these
days, I will try to create a context to enumerate them here
on rmim.
- dn
Ashok
>A gentleman, who was perhaps born in the 19th C, once
>told me some very simple but profound and sensible rules
>governing communication regarding death. One of these
>days, I will try to create a context to enumerate them here
>on rmim.
>
>- dn
What? You "will try to create a context"? By committing
homicide or suicide, I wonder.
Ashok
Arun Iyengar
Abhay Phadnis
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(snip)
> And, please, please, please, could we avoid improper
> greetings like 'Hi' and solecisms, albeit they are far less
> jarring, like 'I *have* not met the deceased' in obituary
> threads? In my opinion, the forum is seriously diminished
> by misplaced informality.
Why is informality 'misplaced' in the context of a death? In my opinion,
affection and respect for the deceased are not compromised in any way by
informality; it is the cavilling over the manner of expression that is
ungracious.
Warm regards,
Abhay
Surjit Singh
In this case, I actually do agree with Nani. I should have put more
thought into it.
>
> Warm regards,
> Abhay
Arun Iyengar
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