The Most Successful Music Directors: 1940-1969
Mokammel Karim
Rank Film Year Nett Gross Adjusted Nett Gross Verdict Music Cast
1 Kismet 1943 1,00,00,000 65,36,00,000 All Time Blockbuster anilbiswas
ashok,mumtaz
2 Rattan 1944 1,00,00,000 63,08,00,000 All Time Blockbuster naushad
karan,amirbanu
3 Anmol Ghadi 1946 1,00,00,000 58,33,00,000 Blockbuster naushad
surendra,suraiya,noorzahan
4 Barsaat 1949 1,10,00,000 56,83,00,000 Blockbuster Shankar-jaikishan
rajkapoor,nargis
5 Basant 1942 80,00,000 53,58,00,000 Blockbuster pannalal
suresh,pramila,madhubala
6 Andaz 1949 1,00,00,000 51,67,00,000 Blockbuster naushad
dilip,rajkapoor,nargis
7 Khazanchi 1941 70,00,000 48,69,00,000 Blockbuster gulamhaider
ismail,ramala
8 Tansen 1943 70,00,000 45.75,00,000 Blockbuster khemchandPrakash
saigal,khurshid
9 Zeenat 1945 70,00,000 42,67,00,000 Blockbuster hafizKhan noorzehan
10 Mahal 1949 80,00,000 41,33,00,000 Super Hit khemchandPrakash
Ashok,madhubala
11 Shaheed 1948 75,00,000 40,69,00,000 Super Hit gulamHaider
dilip,kamini
12 Khandaan 1942 60,00,000 40,19,00,000 Super Hit gulamHaider
noorzahan,manorama
13 Zindagi 1940 55,00,000 39,78,00,000 Super Hit pankajMullick
saigal,pahadi,ashalata
14 Ram Rajya 1943 60,00,000 39,22,00,000 Super Hit-----------
prem,chandrakant,shobhona
15 Chitralekha 1941 55,00,000 38,25,00,000 Super Hit zindeKhan,ghani
mehtab,nandrekar
16 Chandralekha 1948 70,00,000 37,98,00,000 Hit
balkrishna,saluri,Shankar rajkumari,radha
17 Bhakt Surdas 1942 55,00,000 36,84,00,000 Super Hit gyanDutta
saigal,khurshid
18 Bandhan 1940 50,00,000 36,17,00,000 Super Hit sarswati,pal
ashok,leela,suresh
19 Shah Jehan 1946 60,00,000 35,00,00,000 Super Hit naushad
saigal,ragini
20 Sikander 1941 50,00,000 34,78,00,000 Hit rafiq,mir
prithviraj,sohrab
21 Dost 1944 55,00,000 34,69,00,000 Super Hit sajjad noorzahan,maya
22 Nadaan 1943 50,00,000 32,68,00,000 Super Hit ------ aman,noorzahan
23 Pyar Ki Jeet 1948 60,00,000 31,50,00,000 Super Hit
husnlal,bhagatram suraiya
24 Jhoola 1941 45,00,000 31,30,00,000 Hit saraswati leela,ashok
25 Dillagi 1949 60,00,000 31,00,00,000 Hit naushad shayam,suraiya
26 Gaon Ki Gori 1945 50,00,000 30,48,00,000 Hit shayamSundar
noorzahan
27 Jawab 1942 45,00,000 30,14,00,000 Hit kamalDasgupta ratin,barua
28 Mela 1948 55,00,000 29,84,00,000 Hit naushad dilip,nargis
29 Nauker 1943 45,00,000 29,41,00,000 Hit rafiqGaznavi,shantiKumar
Chandra,noorzahan
30 Achhut 1940 40,00,000 28,93,00,000 Hit gyanDutta gohar,moti
Naushad – 6 (other hits: nai duniya 1942, sharda 1942, namaste 1943,
kanoon 1943, sanjog 1943, pehle aap 1944, natak 1947, sanyasi 1945,
dard 1947, dulari 1949), Gulam Haider – 3, Khemchand Prakash – 2,
Saraswati Devi – 2, Gyan Dutta – 2, Rafiq Ghaznavi – 2, Anil Biswas –
1, Sajjad Hussain – 1, Shankar-Jaikishan – 1, Pannalal Ghosh – 1,
Husnlal-Bhagatram – 1 (other hits: badi bahen), Pankaj Mullick – 1,
Shyam Kumar – 1, Hafiz Khan – 1, Kamal Dasgupta – 1, Others – 2,
Missing – 2. Other hits: SD Burman - Shabnam (1949) and C Ramchandra
(Patanga, 1949).
Top Earners 1950-1959 (Figures in Ind Rs)
Rank Film Year Nett Gross Adjusted Nett Gross Verdict Music Cast
1 Mother India 1957 4,00,00,000 117,30,00,000 All Time Blockbuster
naushad nargis,suneel,rajendra
2 Naya Daur 1957 2,25,00,000 69,75,00,000 Blockbuster opnayaar
dilip,vaijayanteemala
3 Shree 420 1955 2,00,00,000 65,76,00,000 Blockbuster Shankar-
jaikishan rajkapoor,nargis
4 Aan 1952 1,50,00,000 60,28,00,000 Super Hit naushad
dilip,nadira,nimmi
5 Madhumati 1958 2,00,00,000 58,64,00,000 Blockbuster salil
dilip,vaijayanteemala
6 Awaara 1951 1,25,00,000 54,25,00,000 Blockbuster Shankar-jaikishan
rajkapoor,nargis
7 Nagin 1954 1,50,00,000 50,86,00,000 Blockbuster hemant
pradeep,vaijayanteemala
8 Baiju Bawra 1952 1,25,00,000 50,23,00,000 Blockbuster naushad
bharatbhushan,meenakumari
9 Azaad 1955 1,50,00,000 49,32,00,000 Super Hit cRamchandra
dilip,meenakumari
10 Pyaasa 1957 1,50,00,000 46,50,00,000 Super Hit sdBurman
guruDutta,waheeda,mala
11 Anarkali 1953 1,25,00,000 45,21,00,000 Super Hit cRamchandra
pradeep,beena
12 Baazi 1951 1,00,00,000 43,40,00,000 Super Hit sdBurman
devAnand,geetaBali
13 Nastik 1954 1,25,00,000 42,38,00,000 Super Hit cRamchandra
nalini,ajit
14 Jhanak Jhanak Payal Baje 1955 1,25,00,000 41,10,00,000 Super Hit
vasantDesai gopi,sandhya
15 Anari 1959 1,50,00,000 40,69,00,000 Super Hit Shankar-jaikishan
rajkapoor,nargis
16 Jaal 1952 1,00,00,000 40,19,00,000 Super Hit sdBurman
devAnand,geetaBali
17 CID 1956 1,25,00,000 39,89,00,000 Super Hit opNayaar
devAnand,shakila
18 Albela 1951 90,00,000 39,06,00,000 Super Hit cRamchandra
bhagwan,geetaBali
19 Do Aankhen Barah Haath 1957 1,25,00,000 38,75,00,000 Super Hit
vasantDesai vShantara,sandhya
20 Paigham 1959 1,40,00,000 37,98,00,000 Super Hit cRamchandra
dilip,vaijayanteemala
21 Chalti Ka Naam Gaadi 1958 1,25,00,000 36,66,00,000 Super Hit
sdBurman kishore,ashok,madhubala
22 Udan Khatola 1955 1,10,00,000 36,17,00,000 Hit naushad dilip,nimmi
23 Samadhi 1950 75,00,000 35,38,00,000 Hit cRamchandra ashok,nalini
24 Deedar 1951 80,00,000 34,72,00,000 Hit naushad dilip,nargis,nimmi
25 Navrang 1959 1,25,00,000 33,91,00,000 Super Hit cRamchandra
mahipal,sandhya
26 Taxi Driver 1954 1,00,00,000 33,91,00,000 Hit sdBurman
devAnand,kalpana
27 Babul 1950 70,00,000 33,02,00,000 Hit naushad dilip,nargis
28 Jadoo 1951 75,00,000 32,55,00,000 Hit naushad suresh,shyam,nalini
29 Daag 1952 80,00,000 32,15,00,000 Hit Shankar-jaikishan dilip,nimmi
30 Ek Hi Raasta 1956 1,00,00,000 31,91,00,000 Hit hemant
ashok,meenakumari
C Ramchandra – 7 (other hits: aasha 1957), Naushad – 7 (Other Hits:
dastan 1950, diwana 1952, shabab 1954), SD Burman – 5 (other hits:
bahar 1951,paying guest 1957), Shankar Jaikishan – 4 (other hits:
seema 1955, chori chori 1956, basant bahar 1956, new delhi 1956,
rajhath 1956, yahudi 1958), OP Nayaar – 2 (other hits: aarpaar 1954,
Mr & Mrs 55 1955, tumsa nahin dekha 1957, phagun 1958), Hemant Kumar/
Mukharjee– 2, Vasant Desai – 2 (other hits - Goonj Uthi Shehnai 1959),
Salil Chowdhury – 1. Other hits: Khyaam - Phir Subah Hogi (1958), Usha
Khanna - Dil Deke Dekho (1959), N Dutta - Dhool Ka Phool (1959)
Top Earners 1960-1969 (Figures in Ind Rs)
Rank Film Year Nett Gross Adjusted Nett Gross Verdict Music Cast
1 Mughal E Azam 1960 5,50,00,000 132,69,00,000 All Time Blockbuster
naushad dilip,madhubala
2 Sangam 1964 4,00,00,000 88,57,00,000 Blockbuster Shankar-jaikishan
rajkapoor,vaijayanteemala,rajendra
3 Ganga Jamuna 1961 3,50,00,000 84,39,00,000 Blockbuster naushad
dilip,vaijayanteemala
4 Mere Mehboob 1963 3,00,00,000 69,26,00,000 Blockbuster naushad
rajendra,sadhana
5 Upkar 1967 3,50,00,000 69,05,00,000 Blockbuster kalyanji-anandji
manoj,asha
6 Waqt 1965 3,00,00,000 63,82,00,000 Blockbuster ravi sunil,sadhana
7 Aradhana 1969 3,50,00,000 63,29,00,000 Blockbuster sdburman
rajesh,sharmila
8 Aankhen 1968 3,25,00,000 61,86,00,000 Blockbuster ravi
dharmendra,mala
9 Do Raaste 1969 3,25,00,000 58,77,00,000 Blockbuster LP
rajesh,mumtaj
10 Jab Jab Phool Khile 1965 2,75,00,000 58,51,00,000 Blockbuster
kalyanji-anandji shashi,nanda
11 Phool Aur Patthar 1966 2,75,00,000 56,30,00,000 Blockbuster ravi
dharmendra,meenakumari
12 Ram Aur Shyam 1967 2,75,00,000 54,25,00,000 Super Hit naushad
dilip,waheeda,mumtaj
13 Suraj 1966 2,50,00,000 51,18,00,000 Super Hit Shankar-jaikishan
rajendra,vaijayanteemala
14 Ayee Milan Ki Bela 1964 2,25,00,000 49,82,00,000 Super Hit Shankar-
jaikishan rajendra,saira
15 Farz 1967 2,50,00,000 49,32,00,000 Super Hit LP jeetandra,babita
16 Himalay Ki God Mein 1965 2,25,00,000 47,87,00,000 Super Hit
kalyanji-anandji manoj,mala
17 Mera Saaya 1966 2,25,00,000 46,06,00,000 Super Hit madanmohan
sunil,sadhana
18 Ek Phool Do Mali 1969 2,50,00,000 45,21,00,000 Super Hit ravi
sanjay,sadhana
19 Hamraaz 1967 2,25,00,000 44,39,00,000 Super Hit ravi sunil,urmila
20 Dosti 1964 2,00,00,000 44,29,00,000 Super Hit LP sudhir,sushil
21 Barsaat Ki Raat 1960 1,75,00,000 44,16,00,000 Super Hit roshan
bharatbhushan,madhubala
22 Arzoo 1965 2,00,00,000 42,55,00,000 Super Hit Shankar-jaikishan
rajendra,sadhana
23 Junglee 1961 1,75,00,000 42,19,00,000 Super Hit Shankar-jaikishan
shammi,saira
24 Teesri Manzil 1966 1,90,00,000 40,95,00,000 Hit rdburman
shammi,asha
25 Taj Mahal 1963 1,75,00,000 40,40,00,000 Super Hit roshan
pradeep,beena
26 Shagird 1967 2,00,00,000 39,45,00,000 Super Hit LP joy,saira
27 Ziddi 1964 1,75,00,000 38,75,00,000 Super Hit sdburman joy,asha
28 Guide 1965 1,75,00,000 38,33,00,000 Hit sdburman devanand,waheeda
29 Do Kaliyan 1968 2,00,00,000 38,07,00,000 Super Hit ravi
biswajeet,mala
30 Kohinoor 1960 1,50,00,000 37,85,00,000 Hit naushad
dilip,meenakumari
Ravi – 6 (other hits: Chaudvin Ka Chand 1960, Gharana 1961, China Town
1962, Gumrah 1963, Khandaan 1965, Kaajal 1965, Do Badan 1966, Neel
Kamal 1968), Naushad – 5, Shankar-Jaikishan – 5 (other hits: Jis Desh
Mein Ganga Behti Hai 1960, Dil Apna Aur Preet Paraya 1960, Jab Pyar
Kisi Se Hota Hai 1961, Sasural 1961, Professor 1962, Asli Naqli 1962,
Dil Tera Diwana 1962, Hariyali Aur Raasta 1962, Dil Ek Mandir 1963,
Rajkumar 1964, April Fool 1964, Jaanwar 1965, Gumnaam 1965, Love In
Tokyo 1966, An Evening In Paris 1967, Kanyadaan 1968, Brahmachari
1968, Prince 1969), LP – 4 (other hits: Aaye Din Bahar Ke 1966, Milan
1967, Patthar Ke Sanam 1967, Aaya Sawan Jhoom Ke 1969, Jeene Ki Raah
1969), SD Burman – 3 (other hits: Tere Ghar Ke Saamne 1963, Jewel
Thief 1967,), Kalyanji-Anandji -3, Roshan – 2 (Aarti 1962), Madan
Mohan -1 (other hits: Anpadh 1962, Haqeeqat 1964, Woh Kaun Thi 1964),
RD Burman – 1 (other hits: Padosan 1968). Other: Jaidev - Hum Dono
(1961), Hemant - Bees Saal Baad (1962), OP Nayaar - Ek Musafir Ek
Haseena (1962) Phir Wohi Dil Laya Hoon (1963) Kashmir Ki Kali (1964)
Mere Sanam (1965), Prem Dhawan- Shaheed (1965).
Total (excluding the ‘other hits’ category): Total 90.
Naushad 18 (56 = Total number of movies as composer up to 1969)
Shankar Jaikishan 10 (94)
SD Burman 8 (56)
C Ramchandra 7 (92)
Ravi 6 (57)
LP 4 (56)
All time Blockbuster: 4 (Naushad 3, Anil Biswas 1)
Blockbuster (Including ‘All time Blockbuster’): 27 (Naushad 8, Shankar
Jaikishan 4, Ravi 3, Kalyanji Anandji 2, Anil Biswas 1, Gulam Haider
1. Khemchand Prakash 1, Hafiz Khan 1, Pannalal Ghosh 1, OP Nayaar 1,
Salil 1, Hemant 1, SD Burman 1, LP 1)
surjit singh
Looks like the data is from
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/showProd.php?itemCat=121&catName=MTk0MC0xOTQ5
The data is full of guess work. For example many amounts are just
round numbers.
Another example, for Kismet 1943 the actual numbers are known but
these guys made no effort to get them.
Mokammel Karim
>
> The data is full of guess work. For example many amounts are just
> round numbers.
> Another example, for Kismet 1943 the actual numbers are known but
> these guys made no effort to get them.
yeah, the data is from boxofficeindia.com. i found another one or two
sites that had such lists. For me the ranking is more important. If
that's correct, then it serves the purpose. (I think) Even if actual
numbers were used instead of approximations, the list would have
remained fairly the same.
kcp
>For me the ranking is more important. If
> that's correct, then it serves the purpose. (I think) Even if actual
> numbers were used instead of approximations, the list would have
> remained fairly the same.
I somehow agree with the ranking. Just that OP is rated very low. He
( his films ) was right at the top, 50's onwards.
Mokammel Karim
If we look at the list of top earners by year, the standing of OP's
films is:
1954 5 AarPaar
1955 5 Mr & Mrs 55
1956 1 CID
1957 2 Naya Daur
5 Tumsa Nahin Dekha
1958 6 Phagun
9 Howra Bridge (above average)
1962 2 Ek Musafir Ek Hasina
1963 3 Phir Wohi Dil Laya hoon
1964 6 Kashmir ki Kali
1965 9 Mere Sanam
1966 8 Sawan Ki Ghata (semi hit)
1968 18 Kismet (above average)
so, from 1950-69, OP had 10 hits and 1 semi hit. He had two periods of
success, 1954-58 and 1962-65.
Sukesh
ranking them, but such a list ignores the population (potential
audience) of the country at the point in time when a particular film
was released. According to me, the more realistic method would to
average the adjusted earnings with the population. If you take the
aggregate figures, Sholay is ranked at number one, followed by Mughal-
e_Azam. Based on averages per crore population, the figures are 1)
Sholay 162/61 = 2.65 2) Mughal-e-Azam 132/43 = 3.06 (61 and 43 are the
approximate population figures in 1975 and 1960). Similarly, Hum Aapke
Hain Kaun would not be in the top bracket (ranked at no 4) as its
average comes to 1.23 lower than Barsaat (1.6) & Naya Daur (1.4) just
to cite two examples.
For those who may be interested, the census figures are as follows
1941 - 38 crores (undivided India - minus Baluchistan & NW Frontier
Province)
1951 - 36 crores
1961 - 43 crores
1971 - 54 crores
1981 - 68 crores
1991 - 84 crores
2001 - 102 crores
2010 - 115 crores (estimated).
Now the more statistical minded can get to work.
Regards
Sukesh
Narsingh
Narsingh
Mokammel Karim
thanks for bringing the significance of the population factor forward.
however another important factor may be accessibility - the
penetration rate of cinema, for which we can use 'the number of cinema
hall per square km' as a proxy. also, 'number of tickets sold per 100
individuals' may provide important insights. but i don't think this
kind of data is available.
my focus was on the number of big hits associated with different music
directors.
narsingh,
i think the adjusted net gross takes account of inflation.
Sukesh
IMO, one should work with the data available. Population is one such.
In cricket, the averages are worked only on the basis of matches/
innings played and not other factors such as venue, playing
conditions, etc. In this case, one can assume, that the number of
cinemas (or rather seats) would keep pace with the population. Number
of tickets sold per x individuals would not be a factor. However,
earlier until the advent of multiplexes, the tickets did come under
the licence-permit raj, at least in Maharashtra, not sure about other
states.
Music was not a significant factor in the success of some of the
films. Sholay is classic example, songs were just incidental in the
film and none of them set the jukeboxes on fire. From the list, I
wonder which other films fall in this category.
Regards
Sukesh
Mokammel Karim
nk the adjusted net gross takes account of inflation.
>
> IMO, one should work with the data available. Population is one such.
> In cricket, the averages are worked only on the basis of matches/
> innings played and not other factors such as venue, playing
> conditions, etc. In this case, one can assume, that the number of
> cinemas (or rather seats) would keep pace with the population. Number
> of tickets sold per x individuals would not be a factor. However,
> earlier until the advent of multiplexes, the tickets did come under
> the licence-permit raj, at least in Maharashtra, not sure about other
> states.
Interested people can do the research. I assumed that if a movie was a
hit, its music was a hit too. It was true for that era. For most
people (esp in rural areas) if they liked a song or a dance the only
way to enjoy that again was to see the movie again (once I met a man
who saw Baijubawra 31 times in theater). I am quite convinced that it
would work pretty well, on average.
Number of theaters won't increase proportionately with population. It
is likely to increase at an increasing rate, at least for a
substantial time period. Number of tickets sold per 100 individuals is
not a factor, its an indicator of popularity.
> Music was not a significant factor in the success of some of the
> films. Sholay is classic example, songs were just incidental in the
> film and none of them set the jukeboxes on fire. From the list, I
> wonder which other films fall in this category.
For most of the films, music and the success of the film were highly
positively correlated. I considered 1940-1969 only, Sholay is not in
that period. However, Paigham (1959) by CR would be a good example -
the movie was a hit, music is not good.
Baad-e-Siyaah
This type of analysis is gross injustice to Hemant Kumar and
Madanmohan. Music composer is not supposed to get viewers in to the
cinema halls.
Sukesh
> On Mar 20, 12:57 am, Sukesh <sukesh_hoo...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> nk the adjusted net gross takes account of inflation.
>
>
> > IMO, one should work with the data available. Population is one such.
> > In cricket, the averages are worked only on the basis of matches/
> > innings played and not other factors such as venue, playing
> > conditions, etc. In this case, one can assume, that the number of
> > cinemas (or rather seats) would keep pace with the population. Number
> > of tickets sold per x individuals would not be a factor. However,
> > earlier until the advent of multiplexes, the tickets did come under
> > the licence-permit raj, at least in Maharashtra, not sure about other
> > states.
>
> Interested people can do the research. I assumed that if a movie was a
> hit, its music was a hit too. It was true for that era. For most
> people (esp in rural areas) if they liked a song or a dance the only
> way to enjoy that again was to see the movie again (once I met a man
> who saw Baijubawra 31 times in theater). I am quite convinced that it
> would work pretty well, on average.
>
> Number of theaters won't increase proportionately with population. It
> is likely to increase at an increasing rate, at least for a
> substantial time period. Number of tickets sold per 100 individuals is
> not a factor, its an indicator of popularity.
Does it matter to know the number of tickets sold to per 100 or
whatever number of individuals?
For example, Mughal-e-Azam's average 3.06 indicates that Rs 3.06 was
earned per person (taking the total population of the country into
consideration). Whether only 50%, 33% or 25% of the population watched
the film becomes irrelevant and anyway impossible to find out.
> > Music was not a significant factor in the success of some of the
> > films. Sholay is classic example, songs were just incidental in the
> > film and none of them set the jukeboxes on fire. From the list, I
> > wonder which other films fall in this category.
>
> For most of the films, music and the success of the film were highly
> positively correlated. I considered 1940-1969 only, Sholay is not in
> that period. However, Paigham (1959) by CR would be a good example -
> the movie was a hit, music is not good.
Kanoon (1960) is not in the list, but it was a silver jubilee hit. Of
course, your general contention is correct - hit film normally meant
music was also good, but not necessarily the other way around. Some
films were purely on account of its music. The song and dance has been
an integral part of the story telling in Indian films and what a
fantastic body of work by the composers, the lyricists and the
singers. It is difficult to imagine life of Indians (and others)
without the Indian film music.
Regards
Sukesh
Mokammel Karim
> Does it matter to know the number of tickets sold to per 100 or
> whatever number of individuals?
> For example, Mughal-e-Azam's average 3.06 indicates that Rs 3.06 was
> earned per person (taking the total population of the country into
> consideration). Whether only 50%, 33% or 25% of the population watched
> the film becomes irrelevant and anyway impossible to find out.
that is another way to carry out the analysis which IMO is not
irrelevant. I am copying from the wiki:
"Factors in determining “adjusted gross”
No one as of yet has calculated a truly precise and definite
referential adjusted gross for a film, since doing so would have to
take into account most (or all) of the following:
* Box office gross on initial release
* Ticket price at time of release, or its relative price to other
commodities in a given year[5], in relation to general inflation and
gross domestic product.[6] Related to that:
* economic conditions that may help or hurt the entertainment
industry as a whole (theaters in 2008 lowered ticket prices to attract
more viewers though the average ticket cost $7.00) [5]
* Population at time of release—to be used to calculate:
* Per capita ticket purchase number[7]
* Availability of movies (number of theaters and screens, number
of prints)
* Competition of other media (television, internet, home video,
film piracy)[5]
* the total number of movies in the marketplace at a given time[5]
* Screen quotas (no influence on U.S. box office)
* Price differences: matinee and evening tickets[8], roadshow
tickets[8], or difference between rural and urban cinemas[6]
* Length of release (number of weeks)[8]"
for details:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films#Issues_with_calculation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films_in_Canada_and_the_United_States
Sukesh
I had given a thought to many of these factors, but if they are
indeterminable, then it does not make sense to bother about them. One
should be able to make some sense from the firm data that is
available. However, there is a famous saying, which you must be also
be aware of - there are lies, damn lies and statistics.
Regards
Sukesh
surjit singh
>
> I had given a thought to many of these factors, but if they are
> indeterminable, then it does not make sense to bother about them. One
> should be able to make some sense from the firm data that is
> available. However, there is a famous saying, which you must be also
> be aware of - there are lies, damn lies and statistics.
>
> Regards
> Sukesh
Apart from the fact that they openly admit that they don't know much
before 1954
"SOURCES
All data prior to 1954 is estimated depending on the how long a film
ran as actual collections were not published. After that the data has
been estimated from what has been given in trade journals. Many
figures from 2004 onwards are what the distributor or producers have
declared."
there are plenty of unsupported assumptions, e.g.
1. A given MD contributes the same effort to every movie.
2. All MDs contribute the same effort to all movies.
3. The money a movie makes is proportional to the efforts of the MD.
4. Every year is the same as the other, in other words, no recessions,
no increase or decrease in the number of cinemas or the taste of movie-
going public.
5. Actors, producers, directors have the same proportion of influence
in every year in every movie.
6. The assistant MDs play no role at all or the same influence in all
movies
7. The lyricists either play no role or the same role in every movie
every year.
8. There were no strikes or electricity shortage and cinemas never
closed.
I am sure there are more assumptions.
Ketan
Sukesh says...
>Music was not a significant factor in the success of some of the
>films. Sholay is classic example, songs were just incidental in the
>film and none of them set the jukeboxes on fire. From the list, I
>wonder which other films fall in this category.
I don't know if you can say that for Sholay since I wasn't born for the #1
movies in the 1950s-Mother India and 1960s-Mughal-e-Azam. Mehbooba was a huge
hit and it did draw in a lot of people who came in to watch Helen. That they
also liked the rest of the movie is another matter.
What one can infer on a very personal basis, is that neither of the 3 movies
listed above, had the best music for that decade. In the 1950s, I would give it
to Madhumati for starters, followed by movies like Anarkali, Baiju Bawra, Shree
420, and many others. In the 1960s, it would be Guide, Taj Mahal, Barsaat Ki
Raat, Teesri Manzil, Aradhana, Teesri Kasam and many others. In the 70s, you had
better music in YKB, HKKN, Kati Patang, Amar Prem, Abhimaan, to name others
which had better music than Sholay just from the Burman stables.
In short, there is no co-relation to a movie being a blockbuster and it having
the best music for that decade. The notion that if a movie is a hit, the music
is a hit is entirely false. More people listen to it, but that doesn't assure us
of it's longevity. I don't even remember the songs of HAHK and that was the
biggest hit of the 90s.
Ketan
>Sukesh
kcp
> More people listen to it, but that doesn't assure us
> of it's longevity. I don't even remember the songs of HAHK and that was the
> biggest hit of the 90s.
Thats your fault :-)
For marriages still play "Maaye ni maaye munder pe tere"
TV serials still ( saw it just yesterday on a Marathi serial ) play
"Pehla Pehla Pyaar Hai" , when hero-heroines are in love for first
time
Didi Tera Dewar has acquired a legendary status in marrage functions.
Rest of them I agree are forgotten ( not for me though. I find most of
them them fresh, even today, same like DTPH songs ).
I consider HAHK music to be JUST apt for the mahaul of the film. It
was very well composed for the theme. Definitely a supportive to the
success of the film.
Hema
> In article <78723122-0cfe-4ee8-ae17-804ab45bf...@g28g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
Define "hit music". Because you don't remember HAHK's songs, doesn't
mean they weren't "hit". A hit movie's songs don't have to be hit,
but usually they do end up being hit. As you point out, more people
listen to those songs repeatedly (like it or not, the blaring radios
in India are a part of the cultural fabric) and that puts those songs
in "hit" lists. No matter how stupid a song like "tu chal main aayi"
is, you can't deny the fact that it was a "hit". I might not have
heard it for almost two decades, but I am sure if I hear it today it
will evoke a nostalgic appreciation. Its out of sight, but certainly
not out of mind. I could say the same about songs of most of the hit
movies of late 80s, early 90s.
Hema.
kcp
full blast, "Chocolate Lime Juice Icecream"
Vinay
>
> No matter how stupid a song like "tu chal main aayi"
> is, you can't deny the fact that it was a "hit". I might not have
> heard it for almost two decades, but I am sure if I hear it today it
> will evoke a nostalgic appreciation. Its out of sight, but certainly
> not out of mind. I could say the same about songs of most of the hit
> movies of late 80s, early 90s.
>
Tell me about it. My eyes still get brighter when I hear 'taakii o
taakii o taakii taakii taakii re, jab se tuu aa.Nkho.n me.n
jhaa.Nkii'.
Vinay
> Hema.