Abhi To Main Jawaan Huun (#497)
Hrishi Dixit
#497
Song: do bol tere meethe meethe
dil jaan ke maalik ban baithe
Film: Daara (1953)
Singer: Lata Mangeshkar, Hemant Kumar, chorus
Music: Mohammed Shafi
Lyrics: Madhup Sharma
*ing: ?
Hemantda's eleventh death anniversary passed on September 26. In remembrance...
Some mentions have been made recently of this transcendental melody from the
lesser known Mohammed Shafi, but this is one of those songs where it takes a
long time to reach time to reach the "enough already!" threshold. It is a
compositional masterpiece, weaving together several seemingly asynchronous
musical threads into a multi-layered yet cohesive melodic theme. The result - an
absolutely enchanting tapestry of music that triumphs on all counts - the
orchestral ambience, the choral coordination, and of course the magnificent
renditions from Hemantda and Lata.
Gorgeous as it is, the song wouldn't be half as good if it weren't for
Hemantda's contribution to it, right at the offset. Amidst a softly whispering
chorus and the softest ever alaapi from Lata, he smoothes his way into the
mukhda with "kuchh nazar jhuki...". It is interesting to analyze the way the
lines of the mukhada have been patterned... () indicates Lata's voice, []
indicates chorus:
kuchh nazar hati (do bol tere meethe meethe)
kuchh nazar jhuki (dil jaan ke maalik ban baithe)
takaraake labon se baat uthi
(ye baat chhupaaye...) [do bol tere meethe meethe]
(chhup na saki) [dil jaan ke maalik ban baithe]
hum tumse muhabbat kar baithe
[do bol tere meethe meethe]...
Describing it this way sounds stupid. But the idea is to give a flavor of the
deft layering in this song, one of the two facets the song excels in. The other
one is the softness of the backing vocals - Hemantda's humming when Lata sings,
Lata's humming when Hemantda sings and the atmospheric chorus all along. If
nothing else, this song should assure Shafi a permament seat in the Golden Era
Hall of Fame.
I'm not sure if this song is available commercially, but I can try to put an
audio clipping of this song up on the Athaah Saagar web site if people are
interested. A song like this should not go unlistened.
..Hrishi
ATMJH Archives: http://ATMJH.tripod.com/
Srinivas Ganti
Hrishi wrote:
>
> #497
>
> Song: do bol tere meethe meethe
> dil jaan ke maalik ban baithe
>
> Film: Daara (1953)
> Singer: Lata Mangeshkar, Hemant Kumar, chorus
> Music: Mohammed Shafi
> Lyrics: Madhup Sharma
> *ing: ?
*ing:SHEIKH MUKHTAR, BEGUM PARA, MUKRI
Thanks for covering this "out of the world song".One of the few songs
that made me spell bound at the first listening and I didn't know
how many times I rewound the tape.I recorded the song 5 times
continuously on the tape but every time I listen I can't get enough of
it and end up rewinding.
--
Srinivas
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Anant Rege
"Hrishi Dixit" <hdi...@cysive.com> wrote in message
news:39D6601D...@cysive.com...
>
> #497
>
> Song: do bol tere meethe meethe
> dil jaan ke maalik ban baithe
>
> Film: Daara (1953)
> Singer: Lata Mangeshkar, Hemant Kumar, chorus
> Music: Mohammed Shafi
> Lyrics: Madhup Sharma
> *ing: ?
>
>
an
> audio clipping of this song up on the Athaah Saagar web site if people are
> interested. A song like this should not go unlistened.
>
>
> ..Hrishi
>
A very noble thought. And whenever you listened to any song that makes you
feel like everybody in the world must listen to this song, just go ahead and
put the song on the web site if you can. Don't worry whether people are
interested or not. Just remember that famous 'Shloka' from Geeta. Also one
more request. There is one more absolutely brilliant Lata and chorus song
in this film which IMO even better than above song. I am talking about
'Naino.n me.n zoomkar saajanaa, sapano.n me.n baaje shehnaai' . I rate this
song among her all time best 5 (along with other 25 of course.) If you have
it, you can't let it suffer in the darkness. Can you?
Anant
ani...@my-deja.com
"Anant Rege" <ar...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> more request. There is one more absolutely brilliant Lata and chorus
song
> in this film which IMO even better than above song. I am talking about
> 'Naino.n me.n zoomkar saajanaa, sapano.n me.n baaje shehnaai' . I rate
this
> song among her all time best 5 (along with other 25 of course.) If you
have
> it, you can't let it suffer in the darkness. Can you?
>
Anant,
As brilliant as 'aa, nainon mein" is, I think "do bol tere" is leagues
ahead. It says a lot about this composer's talent and he never really
got much recognition for his compositions. I guess he was know more
for his classical performances.
However, I would like to know how could you pick 5 or even 25 of Lata's
all time best?:-)
--
Cheers,
Anil P. Hingorani
naniwadekar
ani...@my-deja.com wrote:
> However, I would like to know how could you pick 5 or even 25 of
> Lata's all time best?:-)
>
In his introduction to "Pickwick Papers" (Oxford Illustrated Dickens
Series), Bernard Darwin, a Dickens scholar, Golf Correspondent of
London Times (1907-53) and a cricket buff, has talked about the
agreeably childish game of trying to pick an 11-man team from
characters in Dickens, who are minor characters in his novels, and yet
are immortal.
- nani (dhananjay naniwadekar)
Srinivas Ganti
> In article <oIGB5.282717$Gh.77...@news20.bellglobal.com>,
> "Anant Rege" <ar...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> I am talking about
> > 'Naino.n me.n zoomkar saajanaa, sapano.n me.n baaje shehnaai' . I
> >rate this
> > song among her all time best 5 (along with other 25 of course.)
I came across two such lists at http://www.tapeweb.com/lata.html
IMO the first list does much more justice to Lata than the second list.
Here it is.(This list is linked to indianscreen.com and there
are some pstat errors)
--
Srinivas
50 BEST SONGS OF LATA MANGESHKAR
KATTE HAI DUKH ME DIN, PEHLO BADAL BADAL KE:
REHTE HAI DIL MEN ARMAN MACHAL MACHAL KE.
Film: PARCHHAIN (1952) Music: C. RAMCHANDER
KOI KISI KA DIWANA NA BANETIRE NAZAR KA NISHANA NA BANE.
Film: SARGAM (1950) Music: C. RAMCHANDER
ROTE ROTE GUZAR GAI RAAT RE
YAD AAI TERI HAR BAT RE.
Film: BUZDIL (1951)Music: S. D. Burman
HUYI HAMSE YE NADANI TERI MEHFIL AA BAITHE. ZAMIN KI
KHAK HO KAR AASMAN SE DIL LAGA BAITHE.
Film: CHOR BAZAR (1954) Music: SARDAR MALIK,
TUM KAYA JANO TUMHARI YAD MEN HUM KITNA ROYE
Film: SHIN SHINAKI BUBLA BOO (1952) Music:C. RAMCHANDER.
AAYE GA AAYE GA AANE WALA.
Film: MAHAL (1949) Music: KHEM CHANDER PARKASH.
HAYE CHANDA GAYE PARDES CHAKORI YAHAN RO RO MARE.
RO RO MARE
Film: CHAKORI Music: GOBIND RAM.
HUM SE NA PUCHHO KOI PYAR KAYA HAI. PUCHHO BAHAR
SE, PUCHHO BAHAR SE.
Film: KALI GHATA Music: SHANKER JAIKISHEN.
BADI BARBADIYAN LE KAR MERI DUNIYA MEN PYAR AAYA
HANSI EK BAR AAYI TO RONA BAR BAR AAYA.
Film: DHOON Music: SHANKER JAIKISHEN.
MAN ME KISI KI PREET BASA LEY O MATWALE
Film: AARAM Music: ANIL BISWAS.
PYAR KI YEH TALAKHIYA NA SAHE SAKOON TO KYA
KAROON.
Film:SARDAR Music:JAI DEV.
DO DIN KE LIYE MEHMAN YAHAN
Film: BADAL Music: Shanker Jaikishen
JOGAN BAN JAON GI SAYYAN TORE KARAN
Film: Shabab Music: Naushad
BALMA JA JA JA, AB KAUN TUJHE SAMJHAYE
Film: AARAM Music: ANIL BISWAS.
TIR KHATE JAYEN GE, ANSOO BAHATE JAYEN GE.
Film: DIWANA Music: NAUSHAD.
SAB KUTCH LUTA KE HOSH ME AAYE TO KAYA KIYA.
Film: EK SAAL Music: RAVI.
GUZRA HUA ZAMANA AATA NAHIN DUBARA, HAFIZ KHUDA
TUMHARA.
Film: SHIRIN FARHAD Music: S. MOHINDER.
HO YAD AANE LAGI, CHANDINI RAAT AB SATANE LAGI.
SATANE LAGI.
Film: DAMAN MUSIC: CHIC CHOCLATE.
JAL KE DIL KHAK HUA ANKHON SE ROYA NA GAYA.
Film: PARICHAY Music: SAILESH
MEHFIL ME JAL UTHI SHAMA PARWANE KE LIYE.
PREET BANI HAI DUNIYA ME MARJANE KE LIYE.
Film: NIRALA Music: C. RAMCHANDER
ROYE GE HUM HAZAR BAR KOYI HAME SATAYE KYOON.
Film: AADHI RAAT Music: HUSN LAL BHAGAT RAM.
DIL LE CHHUPNE WALE, TU KAHAN GAYA BATA DE
Film: PARAS Music: GHULAM MOHAMAD.
HUM PASS AA RAHE HAI, TUM DOOR JA RAHE HO.
Film: SAMADHI Music: C. RAMCHANDER.
GUZRI THI RAAT AADHI, KHAMOSH THA ZAMANA.
Film: SURANG Music: C. RAMCHANDER.
TOO NE HAYE MERE ZAKHME JIGAR KO CHHU LIYA
Film: NAGINA Music: SHANKER JAIKHISHEN.
KATTI HAI AB TO ZINDAGI MARNE KE INTZAR ME.
Film: NAAZ Music:ANIL BISWAS
EK NAZAR BAS EK NAZAR JANE TAMANNA DEKH DHAR
Film: MUNIMJEE, Music: S. D. BURMAN.
YAD RAKHNA CHAND TARON ES SUHANI RAAT KO
Film: ANOKHA PYAR Music: ANIL BISWAS.
TU KYON MUJH KO PUKARE- TADAP TADAP KAR RO RHA HAI
Film: MAYUR PANKH Music: SHANKER JAIKISHEN.
ARI MAI TO PREM DIWANI MERA DARD NA JANE KOI
Film: NAUBAHAR Music: ROSHAN
DILE BEQRAR SO JAA
Film: RAAG RANG Music: ROSHAN
TERE SAATH CHAL RAHE HAI YEH CHAND YE SITARE
Film: ANGAREY Music: S. D. Burman
TUM NA JANE KIS JAHAN ME KHO GAYE
Film: SAZA Music: S. D. Burman
AAJAO TADAPTE HAI ARMAN
Film: AWARA Music: SHANKER JAIKISHEN
MOHE BHOOL GAYE SANVARIYA
Film: BAIJU BAWRA Music:NAUSHAD
AESI MOHABBAT SE HUM BAZ AAYE
Film: NIRALA Music: C. RAMCHENDER
DEKH LIYA MAINE SAJAN TERA WADA DEKH LIYA
Film: DEEDAR Music: NAUSHAD
SAPNA BAN SAJAN AAYE
Film: SHOKHIYAN Music: JAMAL SAIN
MERE PIYA SE KOI JA KE KEHDE, JIVAN KA SAHARA TERI
YAAD HAI
Film: AASHIANA Music: MADAN MOHAN
SAPNE MEN SAJAN SE DO BATE EK YAD RAHI EK BHOOL GAYE
Film: GATEWAY OF INDIA Music: MADAN MOHAN.
YEH RAAT YEH CHANDINI PHIR KAHAN, SUN JA DIL KI DASTAN
Fim: JAAL Music: S.D. BURMAN
CHANDA RE JA RE JA RE
Film: ZIDDI Music: KHEM CHANDER PARKASH
WOH DIL KAHAN GAYE BATA JIS DIL MEN PYAR THA
Film: TARANA Music: ANIL BISWAS.
BAHAR AAI KHILI KALIYAN
Film: ALIF LAILA Music: SHYAM SUNDER
SAJAN KI GALIYA CHHOD CHALE
Film: BAZAR Music: SHYAM SUNDER
Oh SAJNA BARKHA BAHAR AAI RAS KI PHUHAR KAI
Film: PARAKH Music: SALIL CHOUDHERY
NAINO SE NAIN HUYE CHAR, AAJ MERA DIL AAGAYA
Film: AURAT Music: SHANKER JAIKISHEN
KABHI TO AA, HO JANE WALE SATHIA
Film: PATRANI Music: SHANKER JAIKISHEN
MUJH PE ILZAME BEWAFAI HAI
Film: YASMEEN Music: C. RAMCHANDER
PRITAM MERI DUNIYA MEN DO DIN TO RAHE HOTE HUM PYAR KE SAGER ME EK SATH
BAHE HOTE
Film: ADA Music: Madan Mohan
Anant Rege
<ani...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8ra86i$m0c$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <oIGB5.282717$Gh.77...@news20.bellglobal.com>,
> "Anant Rege" <ar...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
> As brilliant as 'aa, nainon mein" is, I think "do bol tere" is leagues
> ahead. It says a lot about this composer's talent and he never really
> got much recognition for his compositions. I guess he was know more
> for his classical performances.
Well. Everyone has his/her opinions and thinks differently. You may think
'Jaaiye aap kahaa jaayenge' is the only perfect song by AB/OPN. I can not
distinguish it from other 90% songs by OPN. Make no mistake. I do love 'Do
bol tere' but I will not go as far as to say it is leagues ahead than the
other one. It has a very amusing Mukhada as Hrishi described it but there is
nothing unconventional about the rest of the song. And I don't think that
the tune is complex. Otherwise Hemant Kumar wouldn't be singing it. Again I
am not suggesting that a great tune has to be complex or difficult to sing.
But if you want to compare two songs, you will probably take these things
into account.
> However, I would like to know how could you pick 5 or even 25 of Lata's
> all time best?:-)
>
That is simple. Give me the list of her songs you just have to listen at
this moment. The first five songs in the list are her 5 best songs for the
day. Repeat the procedure for what you think is a good amount of time. (1
year/5 years) At the end of that period, give me your list and I will tell
you what you think are her 5 all time best songs. :-)
Cheers
Anant
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Anil P. Hingorani
>
>
naniwadekar
Srinivas Ganti <gant...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I came across two such lists at http://www.tapeweb.com/lata.html
> IMO the first list does much more justice to Lata than the second
Both the lists are worthless. The second one has a touch of humour
about it. But what about the first list ? It has only 5 songs by
Anilda. But 8 by Shankar Jaikishan !!! Another 8 by C Ramchand, which
is okay, as he was a genius. Only 3 by MadanMohan. And 2 by Roshan. I
have not bothered to check that credits have been given correctly for
each song. I just searched for these names.
Rajiv Gandhi was born in 1944. When India became independent, I think
Indiraji was pregnant with her second son. To say that the first list
does more justice is like saying that Rajiv contributed more to the
freedom struggle than Sanjay. Both the list compilers are crazy.
Years ago, a marathi magazine asked its readers to choose Lata's top 10
songs. Shirish Kanekar wrote an article about that poll. Rasik Balma,
that worthless SJ song, came out on top. I think "ye jindagi usiki
hai", another boring Lata solo, was second.
Of course, such lists are heavily marked by personal taste. One C Ram
fan listed 10 C Ram songs as Lata's best 10. But that is okay, too,
given C Ram's class. Only C Ram and Anilda can be confident that they
will be represented in any such list put together by a worthy listener.
Kanekar has hinted that he made a list of her top 15. His article /
tribute to Madanmohan mentioned that there were 3 MM songs in that
list. When I asked him to show me the list, he skipped the issue.
- nani (dhananjay naniwadekar)
naniwadekar
> I came across two such lists at http://www.tapeweb.com/lata.html
> IMO the first list does much more justice to Lata than the second
Snehal Oza had posted Lata's top 10 by Meena Kapoor, top 10 by
Chitragupta, etc. 5-10 of such lists. Anilda chose to list only his own
songs with her. Chitragupta's list had 5 songs by him, IIRC. Which
should confirm that he is even worse as a listener than he was as a
composer. These lists are there somewhere in RMIM archives. Some of the
lists are thoughtfully presented. Most others suggest that the compiler
was asked for a list and wanted to shake off the journalist who wanted
the list. So he/she just came up with whichever 10 songs came to his
mind first.
Srinivas Ganti
naniwadekar <nan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Both the lists are worthless. The second one has a touch of humour
> about it. But what about the first list ? It has only 5 songs by
> Anilda. But 8 by Shankar Jaikishan !!! Another 8 by C Ramchand, which
> is okay, as he was a genius. Only 3 by MadanMohan. And 2 by Roshan. I
> have not bothered to check that credits have been given correctly for
> each song. I just searched for these names.
Try to look at the output percentage wise.
First list has 8 by S-J.But total Lata songs by S-J is 453.
And First list has 5 songs by Anilda.Total Lata songs by Anilda is
123.So percentage wise Anilda is far ahead than S-J.
Why do you only look at the big names?Little known composers also had
gems with Lata.
Two examples from the first list.
JAL KE DIL KHAK HUA-MD:Sailesh
PYAR KI YEH TALAKHIYA-MD:Jagmohan
These two songs are no way inferior to the best Lata songs with Anilda
or CR or any other big time MD.
IMO if the best list of Lata has any songs from 70's,80's or 90's
then it doesn't become a best list however popular or good the song
may be.When one talks of Lata's magical voice it mainly refers to 50's
and sometimes 60's and Late 40's.That's why second list doesn't
so justice to Lata.Ofcourse in addition to this I have my own personal
agendas(just like u were disappointed with less no. of Anilda songs)
first list had more of my personal favourites.That's why I said IMO!!
--
Srinivas
ps:I feel that it's impossible to come up with Lata's best 50 etc as
she had so many outstanding songs.
Hrishi Dixit
> That compiler is free to compile idiotic lists because many lunatic asylums
> have refused to admit him. Why give him a sanctuary on RMIM ?
Then, naniwadekar compiles:
> For the best Mukesh song ("dil me
> samane aa jaa" - aaraam) , for the best Talat song ("mahobat tarq" - do
> raahaa), the best duet ("seene me sulagate"), the best effervescent
> duet IMO ("nain mile" - tarana), for all these, you look to AB.
>
And to top it, he insinuates:
> I amsure I have heard most of Talat gems. You can make a case for "zindagi
> denewale sun" or "ye hawa ye raat" as his best. But there are not many
> other candidates for his best song.
Good god, which lunatic asylum refused to admit you?
..Hrishi
naniwadekar
Srinivas Ganti <gant...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article <8rb32c$f3l$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Try to look at the output percentage wise.
> First list has 8 by S-J.But total Lata songs by S-J is 453.
> And First list has 5 songs by Anilda.Total Lata songs by Anilda is
> 123.So percentage wise Anilda is far ahead than S-J.
That is a totally wrong way of looking at things. As I said, it is okay
if somebody lists all 10 C Ram (or 5-6 Roshan or maybe even 5-6 MM)
songs in his top 10 list. You don't count how many songs Lata had sung
in 40s and 50s... to 90s and go by per-centages from there. That is
what the secong compiler has probably done. Lata sang in 1980s , so let
us include at least a song or two from 1980s. That compiler is free to
compile idiotic lists because many lunatic asylums have refused to
admit him. Why give him a sanctuary on RMIM ?
>
> Why do you only look at the big names?Little known composers also had
> gems with Lata.
> Two examples from the first list.
>
> JAL KE DIL KHAK HUA-MD:Sailesh
> PYAR KI YEH TALAKHIYA-MD:Jagmohan
I used big names to make my point. "Jal ke dil" is most welcome in that
list by any criterion. (But "jal ke dil" is not as good as "kaagaa re
jaa re" (wafaa - Vinod) IMO ). I don't think "pyar ki ye talakhiya" is
a top 50 candidate. But that is just my opinion. And if we apply per
centage criterion, "jal ke dil" and Shailesh do not stand a chance.
> IMO if the best list of Lata has any songs from 70's,80's or 90's
> then it doesn't become a best list however popular or good the song
why don't you apply your per-centage criterion here, too ?
> (just like u were disappointed with less no. of Anilda songs)
> first list had more of my personal favourites.That's why I said IMO!!
Yes I do have my Anilda agenda. But 10 C Ram songs and 0 Anil songs is
okay by me. 8 SJ songs and 5 Anilda songs, 2 Roshan songs is non-sense.
I am not an SJ basher. But how many of their songs are deserving of the
very highest accolades is the point. For the best Mukesh song ("dil me
samane aa jaa" - aaraam) , for the best Talat song ("mahobat tarq" - do
raahaa), the best duet ("seene me sulagate"), the best effervescent
duet IMO ("nain mile" - tarana), for all these, you look to AB.
> first list had more of my personal favourites.That's why I said IMO!!
that is no way to look at things. If the second list is stupid, I would
rather say so then praise list 1 because list 2 is even more crazy.
- nani (dhananjay naniwadekar)
Srinivas Ganti
naniwadekar <nan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>For the best Mukesh song ("dil me samane aa jaa" - aaraam) , for the
>best Talat song ("mahobat tarq" - do raahaa), the best duet ("seene me
>sulagate"), the best effervescent duet IMO ("nain mile" - tarana), for
>all these, you look to AB.
This is some statement.Since you can come up with the *best song* for
Talat and Mukesh why don't you do the same for Lata.Or relaxing the
criterion a bit how about compiling a list of your top 25 or 50 for
Lata?
--
Srinivas
naniwadekar
Srinivas Ganti <gant...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article <8rb8pc$jm4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> naniwadekar <nan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >For the best Mukesh song ("dil me samane aa jaa" - aaraam) , for the
> >best Talat song ("mahobat tarq" - do raahaa), the best duet ("seene
> > me sulagate"), the best effervescent duet IMO ("nain mile" -
> > tarana), for
> >all these, you look to AB.
>
> This is some statement.Since you can come up with the *best song* for
> Talat and Mukesh why don't you do the same for Lata.Or relaxing the
> criterion a bit how about compiling a list of your top 25 or 50 for
> Lata?
Though I like them both, and especially Talat, are Mukesh and Talat
artistes of such magnitude that you can't choose their top 5/10 ? I
don't know much about Mukesh. But I like his aaraam solo the best. I am
sure I have heard most of Talat gems. You can make a case for "zindagi
denewale sun" or "ye hawa ye raat" as his best. But there are not many
other candidates for his best song. Like songs with minimum
instrumentation, one can start a thread for best Mukesh or Talat songs.
Lata is a different case. Top 25 for ANYBODY are 15 too many. Top 10
for Lata are probably 20 too few. That is the problem. I won't relish
choosing a Lata list. Even classical musicians treat her with
reverence. She is a one-off. She may be ungrateful and she may have
played dirty politics. As a singer, "she has no peer" in AB's words.
Praise does not come any higher than that.
In the summer of 1987, John Woodcock chose top 100 cricketers. Even he
made many indefensible choices. But his sketches were a delight. If
somebody wants to compile Lata's top 10, he will need to be as good at
music/Lata as Woodcock is at Cricket. It is a pity someone like Anilda
does not do it. But quite apart from politics involved in making such a
list, artistes are notoriously bad judges of their own work.
Reading Kanekar's list would be interesting if only he were willing to
show it. He composed it when he did not know Lata. Today he is her
chamachaa. Anyway, I don't know why he should not list his top 15 songs
after hinting that he has made a list.
Maybe we should ask Vish Krishnan to make such a list.
- nani (dhananjay naniwadekar)
ani...@my-deja.com
naniwadekar <nan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> songs with her. Chitragupta's list had 5 songs by him, IIRC. Which
> should confirm that he is even worse as a listener than he was as a
> composer.
So, what do you have against Chitragupta? Lata songs composed by him
are in a special category by themselves. Judging by the way she sounds
in his songs, she must have had a terrific rapport with him.
Can you justify your statement about his ability as a composer by
giving some examples?
--
Cheers,
Anil P. Hingorani
ani...@my-deja.com
> Both the lists are worthless. The second one has a touch of humour
> about it. But what about the first list ? It has only 5 songs by
> Anilda. But 8 by Shankar Jaikishan !!! Another 8 by C Ramchand, which
> is okay, as he was a genius. Only 3 by MadanMohan. And 2 by Roshan. I
> have not bothered to check that credits have been given correctly for
> each song. I just searched for these names.
>
There is one song in that list that I would put on my list, if I were
foolish enough to even begin attempting a top-whatever list of Lata
songs. And it was created by SJ!
In spirit, I agree with what you are saying but by assigning numbers
and composer names I think you are doing what that person who made the
list did. That was his choice and this is yours. Same difference!
ani...@my-deja.com
"Anant Rege" <ar...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> Well. Everyone has his/her opinions and thinks differently. You may
think
> 'Jaaiye aap kahaa jaayenge' is the only perfect song by AB/OPN. I can
not
> distinguish it from other 90% songs by OPN.
Really.....not even Asha's impeccable singing?
> Make no mistake. I do love
'Do
> bol tere' but I will not go as far as to say it is leagues ahead than
the
> other one. It has a very amusing Mukhada as Hrishi described it but
there is
> nothing unconventional about the rest of the song. And I don't think
that
> the tune is complex. Otherwise Hemant Kumar wouldn't be singing it.
Again I
> am not suggesting that a great tune has to be complex or difficult to
sing.
> But if you want to compare two songs, you will probably take these
things
> into account.
>
Well, I got nostalgic about the two songs and listened to them last
night. I have to say that my using the phrase "leagues ahead" was
unneccessary. "aa, nainon mein jhoomkar sajana" is indeed beautiful.
I still like "do bol tere meethe meethe" better though.
I do not agree with you that this is a simple or conventional song in
HFM. Just the fact that M.Shafi uses counterpoint to such brilliant
effect is enough to make it unconventional. Counterpoint was
discussed a while ago in relation to Sajjad's masterpeice "khayalon
mein tum ho". M.Shafi doesn't scale those heights, but does farily
well. What he does do however, is simplify the presentation of this
song unlike Sajjad. "khayalon mein tum ho" is a very hard song to
like right away. "do bol tere" is instantly likeable.
I cannot dispute your statement about HK not being able to sing a
complex tune. However, to sing for a fraction of a second(in "dol bol
tere meethe meethe") and still leave such an impression by sounding
sweeter than even the sweetest voice in the world is quite an
accomplishment.
> > However, I would like to know how could you pick 5 or even 25 of
Lata's
> > all time best?:-)
> >
>
> That is simple. Give me the list of her songs you just have to listen
at
> this moment. The first five songs in the list are her 5 best songs for
the
> day. Repeat the procedure for what you think is a good amount of time.
(1
> year/5 years) At the end of that period, give me your list and I will
tell
> you what you think are her 5 all time best songs. :-)
>
OK. You got a deal. I will start sending you a weekly list for the
next 5 years:-)
Better still, if we can have RMIMers post their favorite Lata songs
(solos, duets....whatever) maybe we can come up, using some formula,
with a good list of 25 to 50 songs. What do you think?
Srinivas Ganti
ani...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Better still, if we can have RMIMers post their favorite Lata songs
> (solos, duets....whatever) maybe we can come up, using some formula,
> with a good list of 25 to 50 songs. What do you think?
I feel there will be too much disagreement.In the list I took from the
net you said that only 1 song will go into your top 50.Though this
exercise is similar to the desert Island soundtracks one,picking desert
Island soundtracks is much much easier.Let me post 10 out of 50 and see
how many ppl. agree that these 10 or atleast some of these fall in their
best 50.
aa palkon me.n aa(Mad Bhare Nain)
chhed gayo mohe sapne me.n Shyam(Jhanjhar)
Baandh preeti phuul dore(Malti Madhav)
us bastii ko jaanewaale(Angarey)
Muhabbat ek shola hai(Aagosh)
Bahaaren hamako dhuundengi(Baghi)
Ab wo baaten kahaan(Yasmin)
eri aalii piyaa bina(Raagrang)
do bol tere meethe meethe(Dara)
Tumhare bhulaane ko jee chahtaa hai(Ladali)
--
Srinivas
Neha Desai
aa palkon me.n aa(Mad Bhare Nain)
chhed gayo mohe sapne me.n Shyam(Jhanjhar)
Baandh preeti phuul dore(Malti Madhav)
us bastii ko jaanewaale(Angarey)
Muhabbat ek shola hai(Aagosh)
Bahaaren hamako dhuundengi(Baghi)
Ab wo baaten kahaan(Yasmin)
eri aalii piyaa bina(Raagrang)
do bol tere meethe meethe(Dara)
Tumhare bhulaane ko jee chahtaa hai(Ladali)
Only one Anil Biswas Song and only 2 CR songs.
Who gave you sanctuary on RMIM? Did all lunatic
asylums refuse to admit you?
Now if only a IgnorantMarathiJournalist would let me
look at his list, that would be so cool.
:)
-- Neha
naniwadekar
ani...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In spirit, I agree with what you are saying but by assigning numbers
> and composer names I think you are doing what that person who made the
> list did. That was his choice and this is yours. Same difference!
Hello Anil Hingorani :
Difference of opinion is one thing. I called "Rasik Balma" worthless.
But many had voted for it in a poll. And we have this story of Lata
singing it for Mehboob over phone. What is madness is including "didi
tera dewar diwana" in such a list. Youcan begin your list with SJ song.
The distribution of songs, MD-wise, will depend on whether the list
compiler is a fan of AB, CR, MM , Roshan or even SJ. I am not SJ basher
as I said earlier. But 8 songs by SJ alone and only 10 by Anilda, Roshan
and MM combined is surely a joke. The list goes beyond it being merely
his choice. How can I make this point without assigning numbers?
Else all that is left open to us is 3 people meeting each other. The
first one says all top 10 Lata ones should be by AB / CR / Roshan (pick
your choice). He adds IMO. The second says : oh, I respect you. But IMO
(don't forget IMO please) all 10 should be from Bhappi Lahiri /
LaxmiPyare repertoire (pick your choice). Third one says all 10 should
be by SJ / SDB / whoever. IHisO, of course. There can be no objectivity
in this sort of exercise. But there are limits, as I have tried to
show. It is possible for 3 diff people to come up with 30 diff songs.
That is quite okay. You seem to be agreeing with me in spirit anyway.
If someone chooses all top 10 Lata songs by C Ram, you can laugh it off
as engaging eccentricity. But if the same person picked top 50 from C
Ram alone, that would be madness.
And you can choose 10 gems from 10 lesser known MDs. But can you
maintain, hand on your heart, that they would make a worthy top 10 list?
Shirish Kanekar has never released his list, so far as I know. But he
played this game when Lata turned 60. Let us choose 10 by this one MD
alone. Then 10 from 1952 alone. Then 10 by 10 diff MDs. Then 10 with
some other criterion. That kind of thing. (I am just imagining
examples. But he did do something similar.) He chose great songs for
all the lists. But no such list would not be a true Kanekar list.
Besides, if a person chose excellent 9 songs + "didi tera dewar
diwana", what would you say to that? Possibilities, sane and insane and
a combo, are endless.
The second list contains these gems :
Yeh sama, sama hai yeh pyaar ka - Jab Jab Phool Khilen - Kalyanji Ana..
Dil deewana bin sajna ke - Maine Pyaar Kiya - Ram Laxman
Suniyo ji araj maari o - Lekin - Hridaynath Mangeshkar.
Yeh raaten nayee purani - Julie - Rajesh Roshan
That fellow is a lunatic. yuk, I had to see that list again to write
this. For making me see it again, Anil Hingorani is for ever and ever
on my permanent and ever and ever black list :-)
For your Chitragupta argument, see my other post.
Cheers.
- nani (dhananjay naniwadekar)
naniwadekar
> naniwadekar <nan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > songs with her. Chitragupta's list had 5 songs by him, IIRC. Which
> > should confirm that he is even worse as a listener than he was as a
> > composer.
>
> So, what do you have against Chitragupta? Lata songs composed by him
> are in a special category by themselves. Judging by the way she sounds
> in his songs, she must have had a terrific rapport with him.
> Can you justify your statement about his ability as a composer by
> giving some examples?
>
God, is one not to have a cheap joke even at Chitragupta's expense?
But, seriously :
I have got absolutely nothing against Chitragupta. I can tell you only
one and a half songs by him. "badal jaaye duniya" (Captain Kishor) and
if "kaare kaare baadara" is by him, that is the second one, and you can
round off 1.5 to 2. I may also add Talat-Lata's "jaa jaa re sugana jaa
re", a non-hindi (bhojpuri?) song. "kaare kaare baadara" is good. Or
very very good. Nothing more.
The point is this : if I hear a good song, I check who its MD is. I
have never come across Chitragupta's name in this process. And
frequently I have heard that so-and-so bad IMO song is by Chitragupta.
That marked him as a very poor MD in my eyes. When one expert, who
knows far more than I do, joked about Ravi, I did point out that Ravi
did have good songs, so long as you don't expect Anilda level from him.
I don't know many names who can get Lata to both talk and talk sense.
Kanekar is one. She uses him as her chamcha to spread some convenient
views, too. But that is another matter. In one talk she said "we used
to consider Chitragupta C-grade composer", a most uncharacteristic LDM
statement. "But today's songs are so worthless that even he seems quite
good now." So Lata does not seem to share your "great rapport with
Chitragupta" remark at all. That LDM statement confirmed my opinion
about CGupta.
For me to justify my statement giving examples would mean my opening
GKosh, going through CG films, finding that I have not heard 80-90%
songs, and so on. The rest 10-20 % songs would bring me no cheer. A
boring process.
> Can you justify your statement about his ability as a composer by
> giving some examples?
Instead, let me shift the onus on to you. Can you justify
your "terrific rapport" statement about his ability as a composer by
giving some examples? You don't have to cite TOP 10 cases. Any good 10-
15 cases will do. I will happily record the songs not heard by me. And
I don't mind being proved wrong. But that is unlikely to happen.
My Chitragupta statement still stands.
ani...@my-deja.com
naniwadekar <nan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article <8rcud6$t1o$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> ani...@my-deja.com wrote:
Can anyone make sense of what this guy is trying to say? It seems like
his posts are exponentially degenerating into gibberish.
> For your Chitragupta argument, see my other post.
>
I read it and have the same comments as above.
--
Cheers,
Anil P. Hingorani
ani...@my-deja.com
Srinivas Ganti <gant...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article <8rd4e7$2jk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> ani...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > Better still, if we can have RMIMers post their favorite Lata songs
> > (solos, duets....whatever) maybe we can come up, using some formula,
> > with a good list of 25 to 50 songs. What do you think?
>
> I feel there will be too much disagreement.In the list I took from the
> net you said that only 1 song will go into your top 50.Though this
> exercise is similar to the desert Island soundtracks one,picking
desert
> Island soundtracks is much much easier.Let me post 10 out of 50 and
see
> how many ppl. agree that these 10 or atleast some of these fall in
their
> best 50.
>
> chhed gayo mohe sapne me.n Shyam(Jhanjhar)
> Baandh preeti phuul dore(Malti Madhav)
> us bastii ko jaanewaale(Angarey)
> Muhabbat ek shola hai(Aagosh)
> Bahaaren hamako dhuundengi(Baghi)
> Ab wo baaten kahaan(Yasmin)
> eri aalii piyaa bina(Raagrang)
> do bol tere meethe meethe(Dara)
> Tumhare bhulaane ko jee chahtaa hai(Ladali)
>
Srinivas,
Surely you knew I was kidding.
I guess you just love to post all kinds of lists.......not that there
is anything wrong with that:-)
vijay...@my-deja.com
naniwadekar <nan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article <8rcud6$t1o$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> ani...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > naniwadekar <nan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > songs with her. Chitragupta's list had 5 songs by him, IIRC. Which
> > > should confirm that he is even worse as a listener than he was as
> > > a composer.
> >
> > So, what do you have against Chitragupta? Lata songs composed by him
> > are in a special category by themselves. Judging by the way she
> > sounds in his songs, she must have had a terrific rapport with him.
> > Can you justify your statement about his ability as a composer by
> > giving some examples?
> > Anil P. Hingorani
> >
>
> God, is one not to have a cheap joke even at Chitragupta's expense?
>
> But, seriously :
> I have got absolutely nothing against Chitragupta. I can tell you only
> one and a half songs by him. "badal jaaye duniya" (Captain Kishor) and
> if "kaare kaare baadara" is by him, that is the second one, and you
> can round off 1.5 to 2. I may also add Talat-Lata's "jaa jaa re
> sugana jaa re", a non-hindi (bhojpuri?) song. "kaare kaare baadara"
> is good. Or very very good. Nothing more.
>
Pride in ignorance is bad. Arrogance abominable. Instead of tom-tomming
your ignorance, you may spend some time going through the HMV site or
ISB sites and see what else Chitragupt might have composed. Or even go
through RMIM archives, Chitragupt is not exactly an unknown entity here.
A quick look up of these sites reveals films like Main Chup Rahoongi,
Kali Topi Lal Rumal, Zabak, Vasna, Oonche Log, Afsana, Bhabhi, Akash
Deep, Insaaf and Main Shadi Karne Chala. A fair bit of quality work
there, one would say.
Maybe your opinion will not change. No problem with that. At least you
will have a leg to stand on then, if you say "I don't think Chitragupt
has any great compositions to show for his efforts". As of now, you
don't.
Vijay
Srinivas Ganti
ani...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Srinivas,
> Surely you knew I was kidding.
> I guess you just love to post all kinds of lists.......not that there
> is anything wrong with that:-)
Well Anil you have probably compiled two of the biggest lists
I have ever seen:)one on Lata's songs and the other on your CD
collection:)My lists are too small.Your lists never seem to end!!
--
Srinivas
Ket...@att.net
>> But, seriously :
>> I have got absolutely nothing against Chitragupta. I can tell you only
>> one and a half songs by him. "badal jaaye duniya" (Captain Kishor) and
>> if "kaare kaare baadara" is by him, that is the second one, and you
>> can round off 1.5 to 2. I may also add Talat-Lata's "jaa jaa re
>> sugana jaa re", a non-hindi (bhojpuri?) song. "kaare kaare baadara"
>> is good. Or very very good. Nothing more.
>>
>Ignorance is not bad, per se. It is a very good starting point, in fact.
>Pride in ignorance is bad. Arrogance abominable. Instead of tom-tomming
>your ignorance, you may spend some time going through the HMV site or
>ISB sites and see what else Chitragupt might have composed. Or even go
>through RMIM archives, Chitragupt is not exactly an unknown entity here.
>
>A quick look up of these sites reveals films like Main Chup Rahoongi,
>Kali Topi Lal Rumal, Zabak, Vasna, Oonche Log, Afsana, Bhabhi, Akash
>Deep, Insaaf and Main Shadi Karne Chala. A fair bit of quality work
>there, one would say.
Just to lend you a leg-- let me mention one more movie that has been missed
above. I had very little knowledge of C'gupt prior to knowing that he had
composed this song, but once I found out that he was the composer(after a 8 year
wait and thanks to Vish for solving my mystery), he went from being unseeded to
pretty much top seed.
The song I refer to is : "Naghma-e-dil ko chhed ke hothon main kyon daba diya"
sung by Kishore and Lata. Pretty much all songs in EK RAAZ are good, but this
remains my fav. The movie has Kishore and Jamuna.
As if that wasn't enough, to further justify and solidify his seeding, I came
across two gems in Akashdeep, starring Nimmi and Dharmendra. Did it have Nanda?
Lata's fab solo "Dil ka diya jala ke gaya". If Javed Akhtar thinks she sings the
word "mulayam" in Silsila softly, he should listen to this. This beats the
Silsila one hollow.
Further I came across, the Rafi solo from that movie "Main to..something
something maze main tha..mujhe aap kis liye mil gaye". Help RMIMers, I forgot
the words. The way Rafi infuses the right amount of sarcasm in that song is
beautiful. Furthermore, the high point of the song is that when Dharmendra
smiles in the song, IMHO, I find Rafi's voice breaking exactly then into just
that little smile too. Perfect song, very nicely sung.
So my point is..what the heck went wrong? We have heard of Lata slashing her
price for producers if Chitragupt was the MD. We have heard stories of how high
in esteem she holds Chitragupt. I wonder what it was that made this great MD of
the 50's and 60's into such a unknown figure. Far more than CR, I find
Chitragupt's usage of Lata, more perfect.
BTW, I think the only Talat-Kishore duet is also by Chitragupt from "Hamari
Shaan" a 1951 movie.
Ketan
sanj...@my-deja.com
Ket...@att.net wrote:
>
>
> Further I came across, the Rafi solo from that movie "Main
to..something
> something maze main tha..mujhe aap kis liye mil gaye". Help RMIMers,
I forgot
> the words.
You're looking for "Mujhe Dard-e-Dil Ka Pata Na Tha, Mujhe Aap Kis Liye
Mil Gaye, Main Akele Yun Hi Maze Men Tha, Mujhe Aap Kis Liye Mil Gaye."
--
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
chetan vinchhi
> The song I refer to is : "Naghma-e-dil ko chhed ke hothon main kyon daba
diya"
> sung by Kishore and Lata. Pretty much all songs in EK RAAZ are good, but
this
> remains my fav. The movie has Kishore and Jamuna.
And it has the famous "paayalwaali dekhanaa" (based on Marubihag, sung
by Kishore), thus giving Chitragupt the credit for doing something no other
MD has done - make KK sing a classical song :)
Chitragupt has some other nice songs as well. One more soundtrack -
Barkhaa - has one of my favourite Lata-Chitragupt songs:
taDapaa_oge? taDapaa lo!
ham taDap taDap kar bhii tumhaare giit gaa_e.nge
Lata sings it with a special kind of softness (the kind she used to
summon for CR, or for Vasant Prabhu if you are familiar with her
Marathi songs) It certainly shows the special rapport between the
singer and the MD.
> Far more than CR, I find Chitragupt's usage of Lata, more perfect.
While he did not get the credit he deserved, this is stretching it a
bit. IMO, Lata's songs for him are in general better than her songs
for Ravi, post-60 SJ, LP, KA etc. But he is no CR.
C
PDV
naniwadekar wrote:
>
> > Can you justify your statement about his ability as a composer by
> > giving some examples?
>
> Instead, let me shift the onus on to you. Can you justify
> your "terrific rapport" statement about his ability as a composer by
> giving some examples? You don't have to cite TOP 10 cases. Any good 10-
> 15 cases will do. I will happily record the songs not heard by me. And
> I don't mind being proved wrong. But that is unlikely to happen.
>
> My Chitragupta statement still stands.
>
Some of Chitragupt's songs which I consider good are
- - Mojhe Apni Sharan Me Lelo Ram--Rafi--Tulsidas
-- Do Dil Dhadak Rahe hai Aur Awaza Ek Hai- Lata/Talat (Insaaf)
--Chal Udja Re PAnchhi--Rafi (Bhabhi)
--Laagi Chhute NA Ab to Sanam--Lata/Rafi (Kali topi Lal Rumal)
--Diaweana Aadmi ko banati hai rotiya--Rafi (Kali topi Lal Rumal)
--MuskuraoKe Jee Nahi Lagata--Lata (Kangan)
--Din Raat Basdalate Hai Halat Badalate HAi--Hemant Kumar (Naya Sansar)
--DilKo Lakh Sambhalaji PhirBhi Dil Matawalaji--Lata (Guest House)
--Vo Duur jo nadiaya bahati hai--Lata/Rafi (Barkha)
--TadapaoGe Tadapalo Hum Tadap Tadap karbhi-Lata (Barkha)
--Ek Raat me Do do chand khile -Lata/Mukesh (Barkha)
--Suur Badale KAise Kaise Dekho--Rafi (Barkha)
--Sajana Kahe Bhul Gaye Din Pyarke (Cahnd Mere AAja)
--ChandKo Dekhoji MAsti Lutaye --Lata/Rafi (Cahnd Mere AAja)
--Rang Dilki DhadkanBhi LAti to hogi--Lata (Patang)
--Muft Huyr badnam00Mukesh (Baraat)
--Akhiyan Sang Ankhiya LAgi Aaj--Rafi (Bada Aadmi)
--Balama Mane na --Lata (Opera House)
--Baat takat Thak gaye naina pal pal chhin chhin-lata/MannaDey (Tel
Malish Boot Polish)
--Teri Duniya se duur Chale Hoke Majbur--Rafi (Zabak)
--Koi Bata De Dil Hai jaha Kyu Hota hai dard vahan Lata/Rafi (MAi Chup
Rahungi)
--Chand Jane Kahan Kho Gaya-Rafi (Mai Chup Rahungi)
--Khush Raho Ahele Chaman-Rafi (Mai Chup Rahungi)
--Tumhi ho mata pita tumhi ho-Rafi (Mai Chup Rahungi)
--MAi Kaun Hu Mai Kahan Hu Muzhe ye hosh nahi-Rafi(Mai Chup Rahungi)
--Mere Dil Kabhi to koi ayega-Lata(Mai Chup Rahungi)
--Albeli Naar Pritam Dware-Manna Dey (Mai Shaadi Karne Chala)
--Aaj Ki Raat Naya chand leke aayi hai-Lata (Shaadi)
--Ajnabi se banake Karo Na kinara-Kishor/Lata (Ek Raaz)
--Payalwali Dekhna-Kishor (Ek Raaz)
--Agara Sunle Tu Ek Nagma-Kishor (Ek Raaz)
--MAchalati Hui Hawa ke sang-Lata/Kishor (GangaKi Lahere)
--Chhedona mweri Zulfe-Lata/Kishor (GangaKi Lahere)
--Muzhe Dare Dilka Pata na tha-Rafi (AkkashDeep)
--Dil Ka Diay jalake gaya-Lata (AkkashDeep)
--Jag Dile Diawana--Rafi (Unche Lig)
--Haye re tere chanchal nainwa-Lata (UcheLog)
--Itni Nazuk Na Bano (Vasana)
I am sure I am missing few good songs here. Let this list speaks for itself.
Pankaj Vyas
> - nani (dhananjay naniwadekar)
Srinivas Ganti
>seeding, I came across two gems in Akashdeep, starring Nimmi and
Dharmendra. Did it have Nanda?
Nanda or Mala sinha I am not sure.
Didn't this have Nanda/Mala Sinha in the role of a News paper editor?
May be I am confusing this one with another early Dharmendra
movie.
> Lata's fab solo "Dil ka diya jala ke gaya".
Now this is a song worth putting in Lata's top 50:)
My favourite Chitragupt-Rafi solo is from Bhabhi,Chal ud jaa re panchii.
--
Srinivas
PDV
Tumhi Mata is not by Rafi it is Lata and chorus.
Pankaj
PDV wrote:
naniwadekar
PDV
Pankaj
naniwadekar
PDV <fan...@home.com> wrote:
> OK
> Pankaj
Pankaj Bhai :
Thanks for the list.
I do recognise a few songs from your list.
Laagi Chhute NA Ab to Sanam
Akhiyan Sang Ankhiya LAgi Aaj
Balama Mane na
Teri Duniya se duur Chale Hoke Majbur
Payalwali Dekhna, and a few others.
Nothing in that list suggests to me that we are talking about a
composer who deserves to have 5 (or even 1, I would say) songs in
Lata's top 10 list. If a song is not even as moderately good as "laagi
chhute na", it is no song at all. Of course MDs do try things and often
fail with their experiments. One does not expect every song from any MD
to be good. But a very good MD will come up with many songs that are
far better than the Chitragupt songs I have heard from your list.
"Dilka diya jalake gaya" is a very good song, but not a top 50
candidate IMO. At the same time, if somebody were to include it in his
top 10, that would be okay with me, taking into consideration personal
taste. However, as I said earlier, the "personal taste" argument can
surely not be extended to include "didi tera dewar diwana" in Lata's
top 50.
I have made a list of Lata songs from your list which I have not heard,
and will get them recorded. I am not particularly excited at the
prospect of hearing those songs, judging by the quality of songs I have
already heard; but there is no harm in getting another 5-10 Lata songs.
So thanks again for providing the list.
The most apt description of Chitragupt seemed to come from Chetan.
> IMO, Lata's songs for him are in general better than her songs
> for Ravi, post-60 SJ, LP, KA etc. But he is no CR.
> Chetan.
There is no problem in believing that. And that assessment is neither
here, nor there. To say someone is better than Ravi or post-60 SJ is to
say nothing much. Chetan mentions one song (which I have not
heard) "taDapaa_oge? taDapaa lo!" to show the special rapport between
Lata and MD. I can't agree with that. One good song does not special
rapport suggest.
Anant Rege
<vijay...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8rftki$cp5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <8repth$eor$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> naniwadekar <nan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <8rcud6$t1o$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > ani...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > > In article <8rb3fd$faa$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > > naniwadekar <nan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
>
> Kali Topi Lal Rumal, Zabak, Vasna, Oonche Log, Afsana, Bhabhi, Akash
> Deep, Insaaf and Main Shadi Karne Chala. A fair bit of quality work
> there, one would say.
>
> will have a leg to stand on then, if you say "I don't think Chitragupt
> has any great compositions to show for his efforts". As of now, you
> don't.
>
> Vijay
>
>
best 5 songs for the day etc., let me add one more masterpiece by
Chitragupta created for Lata, to the list of other songs mentioned by
others. There are days when I think 'Muskuraao ke jii nahii lagata, Maan
jaao ke jii naa~hii lagataa' from Kangan is better than or comparable to
anything Lata ever sang in her career. There was a lovely article written by
Isaaq Muzaavar (another not so ignonart Marathi journalist) on Lata,
Chitragupta and songs by Lata for lesser known MDs. If I find some free time
soon, I will try to translate and post it .
Anant
ani...@my-deja.com
"Anant Rege" <ar...@removethis.crgroup.com> wrote:
> Since this whole thread started with comparison between two songs and
Lata's
> best 5 songs for the day etc., let me add one more masterpiece by
> Chitragupta created for Lata, to the list of other songs mentioned by
> others. There are days when I think 'Muskuraao ke jii nahii lagata,
Maan
> jaao ke jii naa~hii lagataa' from Kangan is better than or comparable
to
> anything Lata ever sang in her career. There was a lovely article
written by
> Isaaq Muzaavar (another not so ignonart Marathi journalist) on Lata,
> Chitragupta and songs by Lata for lesser known MDs. If I find some
free time
> soon, I will try to translate and post it .
>
Anant,
Thanks for reminding us of this wonderful song. Let me also add a
duet which is better than or comparable to any great duets out
there (ok, except maybe 'seene mein sulagten hain armaan').
This is from the desert-island soundtrack of 'bhabhi' and is sung by
Lata & Rafi - "chhuppa kar meri ankhon ko".
Absolutely gorgeous work by Chitragupta.
Looking forward to that article.
--
Cheers,
Anil P. Hingorani