Odd MD-Lyricist pairs

[Surma Bhopali]

I find Gulzar writing songs for AR Rahman very odd. Most Gulzar songs
need "time and mood to think" to comprehend them properly. IMO Rahaman
fails to create both the "time span" and "mood" sutable for Gulzar's
words. Compare his Saathiyaa songs with Aandhi songs for example.
Vishal Bhardwaj was okay in creating the mood in Maachis IMO.

One more odd pair I find is Kaifi Azmi writing for Bappi Lahiri. I
don't have examples right now where Kaifi's words misfit completely
with Bappi's compositions (they may not actually), but this pair in
itself feels very odd to me. Can't imagine Kaifi who wrote a lot for
Madan Mohan sitting with Bappi discussing a song. May be because of
their overall images in my mind.

Any other?

[Robin]

Kaifi Azmi writing for Laxmikant Pyarelal may also seem, to some, a
waste of the poet's time. Not so, at least in Satyakam.

Sahir and LP may be seen in the same light, but we have some excellent
songs in Daag and Dastaan.

regards...Robin
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[V S Rawat]

> nanhaf...@yahoo.co.in (Surma Bhopali) wrote in
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>> I find Gulzar writing songs for AR Rahman very odd.
>> Most Gulzar songs need "time and mood to think" to
>> comprehend them properly. IMO Rahaman fails to create
>> both the "time span" and "mood" sutable for Gulzar's
>> words. Compare his Saathiyaa songs with Aandhi songs
>> for example. Vishal Bhardwaj was okay in creating the
>> mood in Maachis IMO.

Are you forgetting Dil Se?

It might be considered most popular and most poetic work as
a album that came out of Gulzar's pen.

All the songs of the album had such an eerie, haunting,
philosophical feel to it that no other single album of
Gulzar had, not even Dil Padosi hai.

A single song of it, chhayyaa.N chhayyaa.N brings froward
all the highs for which Gulzar is known.

I agree that ARR had failed to create time-span for this
song, because he has made it a timeless song.

And is anybody likely to forget "jiya jale" which was a high
for Lata in her this state of voice. The only mandate given
by mani to ARR/ Gulzar for this song was that he wanted a
song in which a young girl is dreaming about her married life.

If ARR had failed to create mood in this song, I wonder
whether you yourself understand the mood of "a young girl
dreaming about her married life." Ask such a girl in your
neighbourhood.

Not to reduce the lovelyness of Maachis' words and sounds, I
personally feel that only "chho.D aaye ham wo galiyaa.N" is
a timeless song. Other songs are only slightly better than
mediocre, and Lata's songs in it are so sacharine sweet that
one will have shakkar rog if he manages to listen to them
for half a dozen times.

Sathiya as a album will come next to Dil Se in Gulzar's
highs as a complete album. Just one song "chorii pe chorii"
didn't measure up.

Sathiya's "chupake se" is one of the sweatest songs by ARR
that one would like to listen again and again.

To everyone his own.

--
Rawat

[Afzal A. Khan]

V S Rawat wrote:

> Sathiya's "chupake se" is one of the sweatest songs by ARR
> that one would like to listen again and again.
>
> To everyone his own.
>
> --
> Rawat

I agree entirely. It was a great song, beautifully
rendered by Sadhana Sargam. I loved the way she
emphasised the "q" in "qatra, qatra".

Afzal

[Surma Bhopali]

V S Rawat wrote:
> > nanhaf...@yahoo.co.in (Surma Bhopali) wrote in
> > message
> > news:<622ae881.04072...@posting.google.com>...
> >
> >
> >
> >> I find Gulzar writing songs for AR Rahman very odd.
> >> Most Gulzar songs need "time and mood to think" to
> >> comprehend them properly. IMO Rahaman fails to create
> >> both the "time span" and "mood" sutable for Gulzar's
> >> words. Compare his Saathiyaa songs with Aandhi songs
> >> for example. Vishal Bhardwaj was okay in creating the
> >> mood in Maachis IMO.
>
> Are you forgetting Dil Se?
>

Well I have mentioned only 3 movie names above, does that mean I am
forgetting the rest?

> It might be considered most popular and most poetic work as
> a album that came out of Gulzar's pen.
>

Definitely not by me.

>
> And is anybody likely to forget "jiya jale" which was a high
> for Lata in her this state of voice. The only mandate given
> by mani to ARR/ Gulzar for this song was that he wanted a
> song in which a young girl is dreaming about her married life.
>
> If ARR had failed to create mood in this song, I wonder
> whether you yourself understand the mood of "a young girl
> dreaming about her married life." Ask such a girl in your
> neighbourhood.
>

First objection, you are getting personal here. Second, my comment was
generic and I stick to it having heard a lot of ARR songs by now.

> Not to reduce the lovelyness of Maachis' words and sounds, I
> personally feel that only "chho.D aaye ham wo galiyaa.N" is
> a timeless song. Other songs are only slightly better than
> mediocre, and Lata's songs in it are so sacharine sweet that
> one will have shakkar rog if he manages to listen to them
> for half a dozen times.
>

I agree not all Maachis songs are great, but most of them do justice
to Gulzar's lyrics. One can feel the words in songs such as "paanii
paanii re".

[V S Rawat]

Surma Bhopali wrote:

> V S Rawat wrote:
>
>> If ARR had failed to create mood in this song, I wonder
>> whether you yourself understand the mood of "a young
>> girl dreaming about her married life." Ask such a girl
>> in your neighbourhood.
>>
>
> First objection, you are getting personal here. Second,
> my comment was generic and I stick to it having heard a
> lot of ARR songs by now.

I particularly added that comment to lighten it. My bad. :-)

You find it objectionable to ask a girl something. Your bad. :)

--
Rawat