PAIR OF SMALL wooden disks musical instrument used in Hindi movie songs
raaz
bat, flat in shape. They are generally made of rose wood
to get a good sound. The diameter of those disks
will be around 80 mm and thickness around 6- 8 mm,
the handle portion will be around 50 - 60 mm long.
It is played by holding the disks in one hand, pair
separated by keeping index finger in between at the
handle portion and striking with other palm, at
considerbly fast speed, forward and backward.
Most of the occasions, have seen this being used by
blind beggars as accompaniment, while they sing
asking for alms.
In Telugu, it is known as " chiDatalu ", don't know it's
equivalent in Hindi or English.
This instrument is used by O.P.Nayyar in many songs,
here are two songs.
Mitti Mein Sona (1960) music O.P.Nayyar
puuchho na hame.n ham unake liye - Asha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj9PMW_B4Q8
observe at 10 seconds to 15 seconds, as the song begins
Kashmir Ki Kali (1964) music O.P.Nayyar
ye chaa.Nd saa roshan cheharaa - Rafi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txv7RCe8DXM
observe from 10 seconds to 16 seconds, as the song begins
Sukesh
> It is a small pair of wooden disks, resembling table tennis
> bat, flat in shape. They are generally made of rose wood
> to get a good sound. The diameter of those disks
> will be around 80 mm and thickness around 6- 8 mm,
> the handle portion will be around 50 - 60 mm long.
>
> It is played by holding the disks in one hand, pair
> separated by keeping index finger in between at the
> handle portion and striking with other palm, at
> considerbly fast speed, forward and backward.
>
> Most of the occasions, have seen this being used by
> blind beggars as accompaniment, while they sing
> asking for alms.
>
> In Telugu, it is known as " chiDatalu ", don't know it's
> equivalent in Hindi or English.
>
> This instrument is used by O.P.Nayyar in many songs,
> here are two songs.
>
> Mitti Mein Sona (1960) music O.P.Nayyar
> observe at 10 seconds to 15 seconds, as the song begins
>
> Kashmir Ki Kali (1964) music O.P.Nayyar
> observe from 10 seconds to 16 seconds, as the song begins
Check this out
http://www.thehindu.com/fr/2009/01/09/stories/2009010950290200.htm
Regards
Sukesh
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>
> Check this out
>
> http://www.thehindu.com/fr/2009/01/09/stories/2009010950290200.htm
>
produce different sound, not what you hear in the songs
I have mentioned. As explained, their shape will be different.
raaz
Mr.&Mrs. '55 (1955) music O.P.Nayyar
udhar tum hasii.n ho idhar dil javaa.N hai - Rafi & Geeta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJptebQlEU
note the music from 17 seconds to 54 seconds from
the start.
Aditya
It is called khaDataal in Hindi.
UVR
> Here is another song,
>
> Mr.&Mrs. '55 (1955) music O.P.Nayyar
> note the music from 17 seconds to 54 seconds from
> the start.
That's the sound of castanets. They come in different sizes, but but
your description of their shape as resembling a "table tennis bat"
matches the picture here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castanets
-UVR.
raaz
>
> That's the sound of castanets. They come in different sizes, but but
> your description of their shape as resembling a "table tennis bat"
> matches the picture here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castanets
>
the instrument used in O.P.Nayyar's songs and not the crude
one described by me :)
Having known it's English name, got lot of information about
castanets and watched a demo video on youtube.
Many thanks for correcting me, and for the information
link.
The crude ones are flat and not concave,
just for information.
Pavan Jha
not wooden.. wooden ones are called Khadtaal (खड़ताल) (you can see
khadtaal in Narad's hands i may pics, apart from veena)
Khartaal in recent times has been popularized by Langa's and
Maanganiyaar's thru solo performances.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGjOr1pGe5c
raaz
>
> Castanets are called Manjeera (मंजीरा) used by Mandali's.. they are
> not wooden.. wooden ones are called Khadtaal (खड़ताल) (you can see
> khadtaal in Narad's hands i may pics, apart from veena)
>
> Khartaal in recent times has been popularized by Langa's and
> Maanganiyaar's thru solo performances.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGjOr1pGe5c
>
from castanets.
Manjeeras are totally different, they are of brass/bronze.
You can see castanets in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_gm9cG_MYA
UVR
> not wooden.. wooden ones are called Khadtaal (खड़ताल) (you can see
> khadtaal in Narad's hands i may pics, apart from veena)
>
Wooden as well as metal castanets exist and are used in cultures
across the world. Google it.
> Khartaal in recent times has been popularized by Langa's and
> Maanganiyaar's thru solo performances.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGjOr1pGe5c
Fascinating performance! Thanks for posting the link.
-UVR.
Asif
> Castanets are called Manjeera (मंजीरा) used by Mandali's.. they are
> not wooden.. wooden ones are called Khadtaal (खड़ताल) (you can see
> khadtaal in Narad's hands i may pics, apart from veena)
>
> Khartaal in recent times has been popularized by Langa's and
> Maanganiyaar's thru solo performances.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGjOr1pGe5c
>
That's interesting. So what instrument did Chaitanya Mahaprabhu use?
I remember having seen a painting depicting a group of sanyasis clad
in red-orange robes and playing 2-3 different musical instruments most
of them looking like manjeera and khadtaal - they also appeared to be
dancing and marching on. A few onlookers were depicted as well. It
was a very fascinating painting. Not sure if the painting showed
Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, but the way they were shown playing those
musical instruments really attracted my attention.
Asif
UVR
I don't think anybody knows for sure what instrument (if any)
Chaitanya Mahaprabhu played. The depictions you saw are probably the
artiste's rendering of his own mental image of those sannyasis.
There's a Chaitanya Mahaprabhu temple in West Bengal, where the idol
is shown holding nothing in its hands: no jhaa.Nj, no ma.njiiraa, no
kha.Dataal-va.Dataal :-) Rather, his palms are open and arms
outstretched, and his face turned skywards. The whole aspect is of a
human ready to embrace something (or someone) descending from the
heavens. I believe the intent is to depict a person in "bliss".
-UVR.
Pavan Jha
I never said Khadtals are castanets.. may be I was not clear it
putting up...
raaz
May be, I misunderstood, I am sorry.
raaz
Humsaya (1968) music O.P.Nayyar
mujhe meraa pyaar de\- de , Asha & Rafi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-1htTfeOSc