Manna De singing "jinhe.n naaz hai hind par vo kahaa.N hai.n"

[Abhay Phadnis]

I have just come across a Manna De version of the first three verses
of this nazm from 'Pyaasa'. It is definitely Manna De and the origin
of the mp3 recording is clearly vinyl. The tune is the same as the
Rafi version - only the background sounds in the third stanza (tabla,
ghungroo, coughing) are absent. Does anyone know how Manna De came to
sing this and how it got released on vinyl?

Although Rafi's rendition of this nazm is one of the high points of
his repertoire, this Manna De version is a very good rendition in its
own right. (I am sure it would have sounded even better had not the
Rafi version been lodged so firmly in my head!)

Warm regards,
Abhay

[Sukesh]

Possibly a version recording. To cite another example - there is one
such recording of 'chal uDD jaa re panchhi' from "Bhabhi" (1957) by
Talat Mehmood. I believe, there were many such recordings in the 50s
of the popular songs. I have not been able to fathom the reason behind
such recordings. Perhaps, Afzal Saheb and other senior members would
be able to throw more light on this practice prevalent then.

Regards
Sukesh

[Abhay Jain]

"Sukesh" <sukesh...@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
news:106c250c-ad23-4a5a...@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...

Geet Kosh does not list any version records for Pyasa.

AJ

[Ninad]

Check http://www.talatmahmood.net/downmemorylane.htm towards the end
of the "Did You Know That...." column.

Ninad.

[Sukesh]

On Oct 19, 7:36 pm, "Abhay Jain" <abjuk0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Sukesh" <sukesh_hoo...@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message

Check out re:Bhabhi song

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=5zslcMFPf1k

Regards
Sukesh

[Abhay Phadnis]

On Oct 19, 9:56 pm, Sukesh <sukesh_hoo...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
(snip)

>
> Check out re:Bhabhi song
>
> http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=5zslcMFPf1k

The Talat version of the 'Bhabhi' song has been known for quite some
time and there is also some background to why it was recorded. I have
never come across any reference to the version recording of the
'Pyaasa' song. Hence the question.

Warm regards,
Abhay

[maheshks]

> Checkhttp://www.talatmahmood.net/downmemorylane.htmtowards the end

> of the "Did You Know That...." column.
>

> Ninad.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Version recording released on 78 rpm record. It is full version
and not half song. It is on both the sides.

[atu...@yahoo.com]

On Oct 19, 2:14 pm, Abhay Phadnis <aphad...@gmail.com> wrote:

Please upload the Manna Day version

[Sanjeev Ramabhadran]

Second that request.

Sanjeev

[maild...@yahoo.com]

Regarding Talat's version of 'Chal Ud Ja Re Panchhi' (Film:
BHABHI),
the story what I heard was that Talat was the original singer for this
song
the song (both Part 1 and 2). After few days (or perhaps weeks), the
MD
(or the director) had a second thought and they felt that Talat
singing was
not appropriate for this song and re-recorded the same in Rafi's
voice.

The original recording (might have been only on Sound Negative (that
is
corresponding recording for 78 rpm records on wax master, might not
have been made) was destroyed.

Few years later, when Talat started re-recording his earlier songs
(the
available 78 rpm records for some of them were of low sound quality
and
were not good enough for inclusion on LP records or the available
records
were highly worn out), he re-recorded this song of BHABHI. If this
story
is true, then BHABHI song is not a VERSION record, but a

Re-Recorded Semi-Version

Khalid (Talat's son) assertion that this was the only Version song
recorded
by a major artist is not true. Both Shamshad and Suraiya made
version
songs in mid to late 40s. Now, discovery of Manna Dey's version
of ' Jinhe
Naaz Hai Hind Par' is another proof in this regard

I have a recording of Hemant Kumar and Geeta Roy's ('Version song'
or may
be 'Replaced Singers' category) from BABUL - Milte Hi Aankhen Dil
Huwa.
The source record was highly worn-out

Comments and feed-back from members appreciated.

Sudhir

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[Abhay Phadnis]

On Oct 20, 10:00 pm, Sanjeev Ramabhadran

<sanjeev.ramabhad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 20, 3:09 am, "atu...@yahoo.com" <atu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

(snip)

> > Please upload the Manna Day version
>
> Second that request.
>
> Sanjeev

I have only half the song. If 'maheshks' has the full song, request
him to make it available to all of us. Else, I will upload the part
that I have in a few days.

Warm regards,
Abhay

[ani...@gmail.com]

On Oct 21, 12:23 pm, maildrop...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Khalid (Talat's son) assertion that this was the only  Version song
> recorded
> by a major artist is not true.  Both Shamshad  and  Suraiya  made
> version
> songs  in mid to late 40s.     Now, discovery of Manna Dey's version
> of ' Jinhe
> Naaz Hai Hind Par'  is another proof   in this regard
>
> I have a recording of  Hemant Kumar and Geeta Roy's  ('Version song'
> or  may
> be  'Replaced Singers' category) from  BABUL - Milte Hi Aankhen Dil
> Huwa.
> The source record was highly worn-out
>
> Comments and feed-back from members appreciated.
>
> Sudhir
>
> ----------------------------------------------
>

Besides the songs you mention there are others (I am not sure if they
are version or just not included in the film). Some of the ones I have
heard are:
Teri duniya mein jeene se - Asha (a brief version) and a Hemant/Asha
version
Mohabbat choome jinke haath - Hemant version and a Rafi/Shamshad
version
Marna teri gali mein - Rafi (a brief version)
Bachpan ke din bhula na dena - Rafi/Shamshad
Maine dekhi jag ki riit - Mukesh/Shamshad
Kahin deep jale kahin dil - Hemant (I think this was in the film)
Chaman mein rahke veerana - Rafi/Shamshad
Hue hum jinke liye barbaad - Rafi/Lata (a brief version)

BTW, I do like Manna Dey's version of the song from Pyaasa.

Cheers