Bollywood DVDs Feb 99 .
Mo
Story of rival clan chiefs in Rajasthan who fight for the
right to sacrifice the goat at the temple and in the process
sacrifice a lot of each others subjects. Their offspring of
course fall in love.
Many sons and fathers in this movie -Sunil and Sunjay Dutt,
Dharmendra and Sunny Deol , Vinod Khanna and I think there
is an infant Akshay somewhere . Also Kabir Bedi who played
the villain in some James Bond movies. Some good traditional
Indian dances.
Picture -Great , as good as Superdigital
Sound - good volume but distorted , its like listening down
a telephone line . Somebody please rent this and put a more
comprehensive review of the sound quality.
Jhoot Boke Kauva Kate - 1998 - Superdigital -no subtitles
Juhi , Anil , Sajjid Khan , Amish Puri
Picture -very good
Sound -good
Sajid Khan of the Ikke pe Ikka countdown program on Zee TV
and brother of Farah Khan perhaps India's best choreographer
has a role in this recently released movie and later made
some good jokes against himself in the program.
The crow which makes a noise and flies about whenever
anybody tells a lie -which is all the time in this comedy
-is apparently a computer animation and not real and if so
then it is very very good . I dont believe it , I dont think
Bollywood special effects are that good yet.
Story of a man (Anil) who takes a job as a servant in his
love's household where the father is overbearing and the
crow upsets his plans all the time.
Somebody said that the reason that the songs are not
subtitled is because poetry does not translate well . What
nonsense ! As long as it is translated literally its great
fun .
There is one song which doesnt need any translation ,
because it is sung in English and in fact should never be
translated back into Hindi ! . It goes like this (letters to
be said out aloud individually)
Please be M, I, N, E - mine , because I shall L, O , V , E -
love you all the T, I , M , E - time ;
Like a L, A , R , K in the P, A, R, K park , I shall K, I ,
S, S -kiss you in the D, A , R, K - dark !
Another song which is quite funny is with the hero , heroine
and two male friends in the jungle setting wondering how to
tell the fearsome father of their love
Aata hai , chawal hai , daal hai , bhook hai , choola nahin
Chrous- Badi mushkil hai !
We have flour , we have rice , we have lentils , we have
hunger but no open oven
Oh what difficulty are we in !!
Badal hai , barkah hai , bijli hai , sawan hai , jhoola
nahin
Badi mushkil hai !
There are clouds , wind , lightening , spring but we have no
swing . Oh what difficulty..
Hum dono hain faryadi , mil jati agar azaadi
Chori chupe na milte , kar lete aaj hi shadi
We are willing , had we been independent
We wouldnt meet in secret , we would have got wed today
Ladka hai , ladki hai , dulha hai , dulhan hai , pandit
nahin
Badi mushkil hai
The girl is here , the male is here , the bride is here ,
the bridegroom is here , the priest is not . Oh what
difficulty are we in !!
Ladka ladki na hote , tum murga murghi hote
Jab chahen tum milte , jahan chaen tum sote
Boy , girl had you not been , had you been cock and hen
Whenever you wanted you could have met , wherever you wanted
you could have slept !
Pehra hai , parda hai , parde mein jalwa hai , halwa nahin
Badi mushkil hai !
There is a guard , you have the veil and behind it the bride
, but there are no sweetmeats. Oh what difficulty !!
female-Us jese ja baand kar sehra aaja (indicating a passing
bridegroom) , ban ja tu mera dulhe raja
Go get a headdress like that and tie it and come dressed as
my bridegroom .
Male-jungle hai , sher hai , cheeta hai , bhaloo hai , ghora
nahin ; badi mushkil hai
There is jungle , there is a lion , there is a tiger , there
is a bear but there is no horse for me to ride to the
wedding - oh what difficulty !!
friends -hai khub tumahari jodi , tum dono chand chakori
kahin dekhi nahin hamne aesi love story
You suit each other like the moon and its light , but we
have never heard a pitiful love story like yours !
hero hai , heroine hai , villain hai , shooting hai ,camera
nahin , badi mushkil hai
the hero is here , the heroine is here , the villain is here
, and we are ready to shoot but we have no camera
Oh what difficulty are we in !!
friend-thodisee main peekar tere baap ko samjaoon
Par darta hun kahin raste mein pakra na jaoon
let me take a drink and go talk to your dad but I am afraid
I might get caught in the way for ..
Whiskey hai m soda hai , pani hai , pyaas hai per permit
nahin , badi mushkil hai !
We have whisky , soda , water , thirst but no permit to
drink it . Oh what difficulty are we in !!
Well it is quite comical ! It proves once you see the song
and follow the literal translation that it can be a lot more
fun watching these movies . I think volunteers on RMIM could
do one a month each and correct the ones done to get these
transferred..
Mo
'Ike pe Ika' countdown music show on Zee. And really Zee
anchors are just great and surprise you with something new
every week.
This week for example Sajid did the whole show in Urdu
Shairi - most of it was very bad , but it was great fun .
My and everybody's favourite is of course Sofia from Zee Top
Ten - a lookalike of Tabu - always in the most gorgeous
traditional outfits , glamoruos , flirty and blowing kisses
- I am surprised nobody has offered her a film role yet
-maybe because the program is not seen in India..
Mo
subtitles -single layer dual side , Dolby 5.1
Picture quality - Good
Sound -Perfect
A very good who dun it . Won the villain of the year award.
The sound recording is so good it makes the movie a pleasure
to watch and listen to - again the only criticism is that
the songs are not subtitled however the first song/dance
-'This world is full of good lookers having a great time ,
and yet everybody is alone' has been translated at
www.ukindia.com.
Hopefully more people will put up websites translating the
songs. I believe that Eros-DEI are planning to bring it out
again on one side - if so dont mess with the sound track . I
think its as close to perfection as you can get but Irwin
may have more to comment on that..
Mo
there is some debate as to whether it sounds better than a
CD player .
However playing two CDs -of the movie BMCM and the
devotional prayer CD - Bhaktimala -Namstotram Shiv and Kali
by Anuradha Podwal SCI Tseries - the difference is truly
amazing .
The movie disc sounds a bit flat while the devotional one is
superb - the best sound quality I have heard from the DVD
player . Have others noticed that the non movie CDs sound
better ?.
I dont think its the lyrics or the vocals or the instruments
, I think its the method of recording. I am sure the prayer
disc was recorded in a live setting and that is why it
sounds so rich and deep with a wider range of frequencies
while the movie CD was probably recorded in a computer room
and sounds truncated .
Those who have both discs please add your comments . If you
agree , then the movie makers , Tips etc. have to be told to
change their recording methods..
Mo
Picture quality and sound are both very good.
Soundtracks -English and French
Subtitles -Spanish
I am not convinced of the superiority of widescreen . More
than half the TV screen is left blank , even more so if it
is a different region disc..
I would rather prefer the visual impact of full screen and
miss out the bit of the picture at the sides. The only
Bollywood movie that I even noticed something missing was
Tridev where the same girl is shown split screen in three
poses and one on the extreme left has a bit of the left hand
side of the body cut off.
Besides body shapes in widescreen are distorted (my view)
,Our eyes tend to concentrate on the central part of the
action anyway and I think its better to have full screen TV.
Bollywood is like the old Star Trek series - formula - 6 or
so songs , girl doesnt want to know boy , girl falls in love
with boy , family interferes -just as in real life and thats
why these movies are so popular . Kirk fell for the girl ,
in Star Trek she never resisted -thats the only difference
from Bollywood !. I have not been able to watch a single of
the new Star Trek series to completion -dont like heroes
with corrugated skulls , too much psyche stuff storyline.
Because of the lack of song breaks the attention span for
most Hollywood movies is limited to 30 mins and they have to
be watched over 3 days !
The interesting bit here is the subtitles -something that
Bollywood should copy . Hollywood movies are coming out with
6 or 7 title tracks - Hebrew , Arabic and even Hindi ! AND
the titles are a little in advance of the speech and are on
two lines and that is exactly as it should be . Its easier
to read ahead and have a second to look at the action .
In subtitled Bollywood movies the subtitles tend to follow
the speech and one soon loses track.
I have taken the liberty of putting Irwin's very informative
post in this thread as there are many people on
alt.video.dvd who have been writing to me and shown an
interest in Bollywood movies.
Irwin Marrin writes :
Soldier 98 3 hrs Dolby 5.1 www.indiaplaza.com
www.superdvd.com
EROS/DEI's latest offering is out and as of now it is the
dvd all future dvds must be compared to. "Soldier" is a well
done action thriller that stars Bobby Deol and Preity Zinta.
The picture quality on this dvd is
flawless. It has been masterfully transferred from the
original filmnegative resulting in a picture that is perfect
in every way. The DolbyDigital 5.1 sound is used to great
effect in the film and is especially dynamic in the action
scenes and songs (especially "Soldier Soldier")
where sounds bounce from speaker to speaker in perfect
distortion free audio.
"Soldier" also includes a cool main menu where an image of
Bobby Deol with gun shatters like glass being struck by a
bullet every time you select an option. Among the extra
features are subtitles, the theatrical trailor for
"Soldier", a "now available" option with a
detailed synopsis of 20 Eros films.
Along with chapter index and song menu. Some minor gripes:
the subtitles cannot be turned on or off via the remote and
the trailor for "Soldier" appears to be from a videotape
source. All that aside, EROS/DEI should be proud of the job
they've done
in improving the standard of indian dvd making to a higher
level. Lets hope all of their future releases will be as
good.And lets see if this
is the kick in the butt that will get Superdigital and WEG
and others to improve their product as well.Irwin Marin
Mo writes :
The DVD player can of course be used as a CD player and
there is some debate as to whether it sounds better than a
CD player .
However playing two CDs -of the movie BMCM and the
devotional prayer CD - Bhaktimala -Namstotram Shiv and Kali
by Anuradha Podwal SCI Tseries - the difference is truly
amazing .
The movie disc sounds a bit flat while the devotional one is
superb - the best sound quality I have heard from the DVD
player . Have others noticed that the non movie CDs sound
better ?.
I dont think its the lyrics or the vocals or the
instruments, I think its the method of recording. I am sure
the prayerdisc was recorded in a live setting and that is
why itsounds so rich and deep with a wider range of
frequencieswhile the movie CD was probably recorded in a
Dez
paragraphs re: widescreen
Mo wrote:
>
> I am not convinced of the superiority of widescreen . More
> than half the TV screen is left blank , even more so if it
> is a different region disc.
Widescreen is superior. Half the TV screen is blank, but you see 100%
of the picture.
> I would rather prefer the visual impact of full screen and
> miss out the bit of the picture at the sides. The only
> Bollywood movie that I even noticed something missing was
> Tridev where the same girl is shown split screen in three
> poses and one on the extreme left has a bit of the left hand
> side of the body cut off.
At first, I agree, there is a major impact seen when watching a pan and
scan (full screen) movie, but when you realise what you are missing, the
impact vanishes
>
> Besides body shapes in widescreen are distorted (my view)
> ,Our eyes tend to concentrate on the central part of the
> action anyway and I think its better to have full screen TV.
I don't know where you get the idea that the body shapes are distorted.
When you watch a movie in the cinema, it is widescreen. Are the body
shapes distorted? No. Try watching a widescreen version of a movie and
then watching the pan and scan version. The difference is astounding.
I used to be one of those people who hated widescreen and the "black
bars". Now that the majority of titles on DVD (both bollywood and
hollywood) are widescreen, I have come to appreciate it. Now I hate
watching pan and scan. Try visiting this web page with an open mind:
http://www.philipwilliams.com/widescreen/
It may or may not convert you. Some die hard pan and scan fans won't
change but I am sure that it will increase your awareness of exactly how
much you are missing.
Mo
34 inch screen . I much prefer the full screen . Most of us
are not cinema buffs and just enjoy the movie for its visual
impact . Widescreen reduces a 34 inch to a 16 inch.
Some who have just widescreen TV may prefer that ..
Dez
bthi...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Any Bollywood DVD that are anamorphica Wide screen out there ?
> --
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Mo
Govinda , Shilpa , Raveena www.unitedfilms.com is given as
the website for the producers but I couldnt get to it.
Picture quality -Excellent
Sound - Very good -Dolby digital
This movie is still playing in theatres but is not a big hit
and the producers have wisely decided to release it on DVD
to capitalize on its newness and to thwart the pirates.
The box is marked 'for export' only and it is NTSC (nearly
all DVD players can play both PAL and NTSC ) so I wonder if
it has been mastered in India . If so it is a superb job.
Its the first DVD that I have been able to figure out has a
dual layer . If you switch the display on at exactly 89mins
and 49 seconds there is a momentary one second pause as the
player switches over to the second layer.
Apparently in the lab they have tested 9 layers on a side
or 13 hrs of movies on each side ! With single layer 90 mins
may be the top limit for best quality as this DVD does not
have any trailors or advts .
Again if space is a limiting factor it is best to get the
highest transfer rate at the songs . The rate at which
movies are coming out on DVD it seems they will exhaust the
supply in one year (only about 120 Hindi films are made each
year) and then can start working on TV Serials , folk dances
etc.
Why are they not using the second side to put thousands of
ads ? Initially even if given away free , it will make the
DVDs immensely popular as a reference source - for eg the
govt of India could put tourist areas of India etc.
Pardesi Babu is a semi comdey with superb acting by Satish
Kaushik the comedian as a Sardarji . Again a lot of Punjabi
in the movie to reflect the fact that most money is now made
in Punjab and Punjabi communities overseas.
Like all comedies one appreciates these movies more the
second time around . It has one hit song 'It happens only in
India ' . The dialog is good too . One memorable phrase
'mere dost ki shakal bale hi kharab ho par uska dil nahin
kharab'-My friend may not be good loooking but his heart is
good ' Must use that next time !..
ani...@my-dejanews.com
> The box is marked 'for export' only and it is NTSC (nearly
> all DVD players can play both PAL and NTSC ) so I wonder if
Is this really true? I thought they had some 'region' coding, with North
America being Region 1. I am not sure if all DVD players can play DVDs
from different regions.
Cheers,
Anil P. Hingorani
Dez
(North America) discs. DVD players can only play discs from their own
region but some can be modified to play discs from all regions. Maybe the
disc that Mo was talking about was region 0 or something - region 0 discs
can be played on all players.
Dez
definitely dual layered, although I don't know why their sound sounds so
flat compared to DEI's. I know that on the "Yes Boss" (one of my
favourites) disc, the layer changes right when the 'intermission'
comes. If you stay close to your player and turn down the volume, you
can often hear the sound of the laser re-focusing to read the second
layer.. Some discs go through the layer change very smoothly while
others are sloppy (one can notice a pause for a fraction of a second).
I don't really know why this is the case, but Also, some players
handle the layer changes better than others. Transfer rate should not
really be a problem - they should be able to confortably fit up to 4
hours on one side (dual layer). I think that DEI's new releases are
very well done and are dual layered. I don't think ads on the second
side is a feasable idea. It makes the product feel cheap and who would
buy advertising space if they know that no one will look at the ads??
Plus, right now it is not possible to do this with a three hour movie.
To fit 3 hours on one side and ads on the other side, it would require a
dual layered / dual sided disc. Right now, the only options are a dual
layered disc (4 hours of video), a dual sided disc (again 4 hours of
video), or a single sided disc (90 - 120 min). The first disc that will
combine dual layering and both sides will be James Cameron's "Titanic"
(This movie was extremely overrated). They will put the widescreen
version (for cinema buffs like me :-) ) on one side and the pan and scan
on the other. Of course, the costs of these discs will be very high.
Man, I've started rambling. Oh well, I hope this has been informing.
Mo wrote:
> Pardesi Babu -98 -United - 160min -no subtitles
> Govinda , Shilpa , Raveena www.unitedfilms.com is given as
> the website for the producers but I couldnt get to it.
> Picture quality -Excellent
> Sound - Very good -Dolby digital
> This movie is still playing in theatres but is not a big hit
> and the producers have wisely decided to release it on DVD
> to capitalize on its newness and to thwart the pirates.
> The box is marked 'for export' only and it is NTSC (nearly
> all DVD players can play both PAL and NTSC ) so I wonder if
Mo
played all over the world.
It makes sense as it maximises the market and simplifies
production of discs . With pirate copies on the market before the
movie is released ! - hold back for six months is not so important for
Bollywood .
I am sure 'Pardesi Babu' - I still cant get over the quality
of the transfer will make more money on DVD than in theatres..
Mo
other side . Tourist info would be great with the hotels there etc.
-would like to see the beach resorts of Kerala, Goa , palaces of
Rajasthan and Mysore . Most of these short movies are available free
from the Indian and Pakistani embassies , and the govts might even
sponsor them to give their tourist industries a boost.
Gupt and Border and Pardes are dual side single layer discs
from DEI .
The best place to sell the top ten DVDs is of course the
cinema halls . Another idea is that when dubbing the actors do one in
English as well . They are all fluent in it and having their own voice
makes it authentic . I dont think lip synch matters as long as they do
a literal translation of the dialog .
I wonder if the rental companies are sending their discs to
Blockbusters and other video stores -just think of the sales . I
think they will have to subtitle the songs , otherwise there will be
endless complaints..
Mo
get over the stereo sound and great picture. It was a pirate copy of a
pirate DVD of KKHH .
I didnt think it was a perfect picture but this person is
touchy and so I didnt say anything .However the sound was indeed
good . All the songs are also done again at the end of the tape -a
very good idea indeed.
Does piracy matter . I am beginning to think that it probably
does not . The ones who buy these tapes (and this person had already
seen KKHH on the big screen) probably dont go to the movies anyway and
it might actually help Bollywood increase market share by creating
product awareness .
What B producers must do is to release perfect copy DVDs say 4
weeks after movie release and with subtitles in English , Hindi , Urdu
and Arabic and perfect copy VHS as well and that is something the
pirates wont be able to match and maybe even a second sound track in
English..
imen goodmen
macrovision???
Mo
Companies like Reliance should start sponsoring informative ,
educational discs like this . It shows our spaceship -Mother Earth
from 200 miles high with a musical background.
A similar disc say from 5 miles showing the details more
clearly would be a great hit . Could be regional concentrating on one
country at a time and with Indian sentimental music . The advts if
placed at the end of the disc are not intrusive and most people accept
the need for them to make the discs affordable.
Earthlight is full screen and in glorious resolution . As the
number of lines on a TV screen get higher and higher one feels the
need for a bigger and bigger screen . The small 14 inch black and
white TVs were OK with 200 line pictures and 34 inch screens with 600
ones. And with ? 700 lines of DVD one feels that even a 34 inch is too
small ,however consumers in America and Japan have resisted buying
high definition TVs with 1200 lines inspite of the best efforts of the
govt as one needs much bigger screens to appreciate the detail and
there is not the technology yet to make direct screen TVs bigger than
40 inches.
Has anybody tried to play a DVD on high definition TV and if
so what is the image quality like ?
Projection TV most people cant stand because of the blurred
images unless one is sitting in the neighbours house ! Watching the
AALC movie I am not convinced that widescreen cuts off 40% of the
picture , I doubt if its even 5% -anyway have a look at a movie next
time and compare it with the DVD or VHS full screen movie. With
widescreen one definitely loses half the TV screen and the widescreen
TVs are twice as expensive.
At the rate Bollywood is coming out with movies on DVD , most
will be mastered within a year or two and because the South Asian
community in the West is one of the most affluent , is set to make
real money from the sales . One would like to see it turn its talents
to educational material like Earthlight , folk dances etc..
Mo
to bypass macrovision . As DVD prices fall to about $15 , piracy will
end ..
On Sun, 07 Feb 1999 03:36:46 -0500, imen goodmen <im...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Mo
T series , DVD by Main Video of Vancouver from
www.indiaplaza.com No subtitles
Color 170mins , Dolby digital
Picture quality -very good
Sound quality -delightful
The full dynamic range of sound with live recordings before
the computer synthesizers took over . All the three
Mangeshkar sisters and Mohammed Rafi - what a tragic loss
his early death was , the man with the perfect voice sing
for this movie.
T series are known for churning out high quality cheap CDs
and Cassettes and have obvioulsy decided to bring out all
the old classics on DVD. If they keep up the quality they
have shown with Khandan they will have an enormous market .
The picture quality is far better than Sholay from the 70s
which DEI has now promised to remaster.
It is dual layer as the menu has an opiton play 'part two'
80 mins into the movie . One great thing is that the repeat
function is not disabled so one can leave the song to play
endlessly while doing excercise or cooking or whatever.
It is something that other DVD makers should consider.
I have only seen the songs so I cant tell what the movie is
like but it is the favourite of the video shop owner , so it
must be good . He reports that the five or six people who
now rent DVD , refuse to rent VHS any more and so he is
having to get all the latest releases as they come out .
I think this is becoming true generally and I predict that
within a year VHS tapes will be hard to find for South Asian
movies even in India !
Must have disc for those who like the older type of movies..
'
Mo
the subtitling -songs as well -in English , Hindi , Urdu and
Arabic to give the DVDs a mass appeal . Hindi/Urdu for the
millions who are hard of hearing and for non residents to
learn the language. If there is space , repeating all the
songs at the end would be a nice feature.
I would also hazard a guess that DVDs will make Pakistani
and regional movies fairly popular . Although one might not
want to sit through a whole movie even when subtitled ,
music is universal . I am looking forward to the Tamil track
of Jeans having heard one song on Zee - one of the reasons
Saregama is so popular is that the recording is live and
full range , I believe. The Punjabi folk - 'Main Kamli' in
the Pakistani movie 'Charlie' is a superb.
Mo
including shipping -Toshiba
Another choice might be the $357 model but I dont think I would spend
any more..
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Raveena , Akhsay , Sunil Shetty
Picture quality -good
Sound - very good
Mohra has some of the all time great hits -NFAK 'Cheez hai
mast mast ' - although his song was copied without credit ,
it did make him very famous and gave him a break in
Bollywood movies -sadly he died early .
There is an extra song -a real hot number with Raveena
twining her arms and legs around Naseeruddin -which was cut
from the original movie because it was probably a bit too
far ahead of its time !
Story of drug camps and cops , I think this was Akshay's
last hit ! This movie and Khalanak have some of the best
songs ever .
Talking about Khalynayak -it is I think DEI's best mastered
disc so far , with superb resolution and flesh tones perfect
( will get Soldier next week) . No one has ever looked as
beautiful and sexy as Madhuri playing Antakashari with the
criminals ..
Mo
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been injected with a truth serum - something that obviously
allows hidden lustful feelings to come to the surface ! ) ,
one would rate her as a better dancer than Helen in some
ways . Raveena dances in tune to the music but with Helen
one felt that she was a just a little too fast and this is a
failing with Pakistani female dancers at the moment .
Are there any Pakistani DVDs out yet ? It only costs a few
thousand dollars to master the first one and then maybe $5 a
copy after that and if they are mastered from the original
negative could make them popular if only for the songs..
Mo
function is enabled - so one can mark two parts of the discs
and it will automatically between those two periods . Great
for favourite songs.
All the songs in this movie are beautifully picturized , not
only the Raveena ones but also that gorgeous woman who plays
Sunil Shetty's wife ( what was her name ?) .
All Bollywood DVD makers should put the repeat function on
and if space is availaible repeat the songs at the end
-apparently the pirate KKHH has done that -hope to have a
review next week . Amazing how many new things one picks up
on repeat viewing !..
FHN55555
>ways . Raveena dances in tune to the music but with Helen
>one felt that she was a just a little too fast and this is a
>failing with Pakistani female dancers at the moment .
Perhaps you can explain in what ways Raveena is a better dancer than Helen.
Helen is an institution in herself as far as dancers in Hindi films are
concerned, and even when she played the vamp, the stigma of her on-screen roles
never put a blemish on her real life persona. She was one of the most respected
artistes, and even to this day commands respect in the film industry. No other
dancer/vamp has the track record or the kind of screen presence that she had.
To say that Helen could not dance in tune with the music is negating an entire
era of dancing in Hindi films. You mean to say she managed to fool both the
public and experts for decades with her out-of tune dancing?
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dancers with those in the 50s . I think Raveena does sing
the words while Helen just seems to mime and that may be the
difference why Raveena's performances seem more sensuous..
FHN55555
>dancers with those in the 50s . I think Raveena does sing
>the words while Helen just seems to mime and that may be the
>difference why Raveena's performances seem more sensuous..
When you make categorical statements, be ready to back them up with plausible
reasons. From giving reviews of DVDs to sitting on judgement on the merits of
current stars viz-a-viz old stars is a big jump and you should be prepared to
justify your statements with more concrete facts/reasoning. Otherwise most
people will be bound to do what has already been suggested - hit the ignore
button on your posts.
Mo
SRK , Kajol ,Rani
Side A -Dual layer , full screen
Side B -Dual layer , wide screen
Picture quality - Very good for a pirate DVD
Sound quality - Wow !
A Pirate DVD coming with all the FBI warnings and with a
price tag of 1800 rupees inclidung taxes - about $30 , but
can be purchased for less .
I thought the picture quality was maybe a tiny bit better on
the widescreen side and the sound quality on the full screen
part . The sound is a true delight .
Story of a man loved by two women , one dies and his
daughter helps him search for the other one. The top hit of
last year . I thought the interaction shown between Salman
Khan and the girl Saeeda was just great.
I wonder where this DVD has been mastered , probably a
Chinese factory . To get a 4 layer disc out for less than
$20 is truly impressive and such quality too ! It just shows
the cost effectiveness of mastering on DVD . Once people see
this movie they are not going to accept VHS pirate copies
again.
I believe that stamping out DVDs after the first 500
copies to recover mastering costs , is now cheaper than
turning out VHS copies . So expect most pirate copies to
move to DVD . The legit ones can counter by offering DVD
releases early and putting on subtites in four languages
-English , Hindi, Urdu and Arabic and maybe Spanish and do a
literal translation of the poetic language used in these
movies.
The movie is just going off screen , having earnt a
faboulous sum for the distributors -according to Karan Johar
on Ikke pe Ikka - it is a A 1 smash hit ie earnt 10 times
the price the distributors paid for it and is just behing
HAHK in all time earnings , so I dont think a bit of piracy
is going to hurt them . Just one cinema I know had four
screening a day and earnt more than $500k .
It must be the first time that people are watching s
crystal clear movie in places where Indian movies on the
screen are not readily available .
Karan Johar also said that he can only think of making
movies with SRK -reportedly now in the Rs 5 crore -$1m-
bracket , a big sum for Bollywood but he is worth every
penny as he is keeping much of Bollywood employed .
DVDs like KKHH are going to expand the market for DVD so
much -and a friend just back from Bombay tells me that they
are becoming more popular there - that they can only benefit
the industry as a whole . What one would like to see are
DVDs of folk dances from different parts of the subcontinent
, plays , learning how to play musical instruments etc.
Mr and Mrs Khiladi -WEG - 1997 -no subtitles
Picture quality -good only in parts
Sound - okay
I think this has been mastered on single layer , hence the
not so good resolution except maybe is some songs .
Highlights are the song - ' I will love you as long as there
is potato in samosas ' and Akshay wrestling with the real
life world Sumo chamipon .
Jai Santoshi Ma-1970s- no subtitles -WEG
Picture quality -awful
Sound - not good
This is one of the top hits of all time . Story of a woman
who becomes a devotee of Santoshi Maa - a new Goddess
invented in the last 50 years -much to the displeasure of
the three other Goddesses - Parvati , Laxmi and Brahmani who
then try to make her life a misery .
This is the kind of movie that could be a smash hit on DVD
and make the format truly popular amongst the millions of
devout Hindus , if they got the same picture and sound
quality as the even older Khandan by Tseries , but WEG have
made a complete mess of it . Even taping from TV and then
putting it on DVD would have been better than this junk .
Dont even rent it ..
Hasnat Mosharraf
bleeding though.. i mean some colors looked extremely bright or
something...
BTW was KKHH a 5.1 sound??
Mo
Mo
movie. Picture quality was much better than most legit DVDs
except superdigital . Hope to get Soldier some time this
week..
Mo
Manisha, Anil
Picture quality -watcheable just
Sound quality -Superb -Dolby digital
Story of the independence fight against the British ,
surprisingly the Brits didnt censor their flag being pulled
down and burnt , Imagine what the Shiv Sena would do it they
did that with the Indian flag !
I have noticed that the picture quality of most discs gets
much better in the second half -something to do with it
being easier for the laser to track the outer sides or maybe
its the other way round.
The recordings one makes on to audio tapes from DVDs sounds
a lot better than cassettes one can buy off the shelf and
you can record the same song two or three times .
Manisha the Nepali beauty whose father I think is the
Nepalese Prime Minister looks really lovely in this movie.
Dushman -1998 - Eros , DEI - English subtitles
Kajol , Kajol , Sunjay , Ashutosh
Picture quality -very good
Sound- good -Dolby digital
A superb performance by the serial rapist killer postman
Ashutosh Rana . I have already nominated him for best
villain (www.zeetelevision.com) on Zee cine awards . So good
that the postmen went on strike for a while to protest
against it .
The great song lamenting the death of a loved one ' No
letter , no message . What kind of a place is this that you
have gone to ?' is a bit spoilt by having Kajol play her own
dead sister . Otherwise an interesting movie .Sunjay Dutt
is the blind ex officer who trains her to stand up to bad
guys.
In the review of the DVD -MAMK -forgot to mention the
amazing talking goat which can answer simple questions like
-'Who is the goat , you or me ?' and 'What comes after
April ?' and which Akshay sells for a huge sum..
Mo
the perfomrances by Jaspal Bhatti and Kader Khan, who played
a Sardarji and Pathan, respectively. .
But this detracts very little from the movie, in my
opinion. It was still a joy to watch. Soon as I get a DVD
player, i will purchase the DVD.<
This illustrates why DVD is going to be an absolute gold
mine for Bollywood and other South Asian producers IF they
can get the quality right .
It is already India's biggest export , one day I will have
figures to prove it , but in the meantime just multiply 10m
NRIs with 20 movies a year at say $5 and then add the Zee,
magazines , cassettes etc. sold , but it will all pale when
compared to DVD.
For example I might have spent $500 on movies a year but my
DVD collection has already cost me $3000 for the Bollywood
ones and $1000 for Hollywood ( Mars Attack , Contact (truly
excellent ) ) . I am down to one meal a day to compensate !
Niraj wanting to buy the DVD after watching the movie is
going to become quite common and most will buy to own rather
than rent .
The GOI must really step and impose controls not on the
creative content but on technical aspects . Putting out bad
quality prints like Lamhe , Jai Santoshi Ma or Superhits is
just taking advantage of the customer .
All movies that get an export certificate and tax credits
should be mastered from original negatives , over 500 lines
resolution on dual layers , with Dolby 5.1 AND subtitles in
six languages which the GOI should do for the company by
appointing six linguist scholars full time . If they
translated the dialog literally it would show the world what
masters of their craft the Urdu dialog writers of India are.
English -as it is THE world language , Hindi, Urdu for hard
of hearing and for second generation NRIs and first
generation English medium school Indians to learn the script
again , Arabic -as they are popular in the middle east and
Spanish . In California I have seen many Hindi movie
theatres in Hispanic areas -also I would suggest that the
language be kept simple and not Sanskritized too much .
Sanskrit is like German - keep attaching syllables until the
word is over 100 letters long and gives a headache just
pronouncing it ! If the GOI can impose strict quality
controls it could take a share of this gold mine.
Mo
This DVD of the first color movie made in India in the 50s I
guess wouldnt play on a friend's machine but seems OK on
mine , I would like Irwin's opinion on the old style songs
on this one , especially the fifth chapter one -54 minutes
into the movie , sung I think by Suraiya.
There are only one or two instruments that I can hear but it
is a glorious song , and I wish composers today would give
us some more of this kind of stuff.
Towards the end of the song the speaker tended to give
alarming noises as if it was about to blow a fuse , and I
am not sure if its the recording or maybe a a fingerprint.
This DVD is a must just to hear this magnificient song..
Mo
as this one is getting long is which movie readers would
like brought out on DVD . Qila and Guide would do me for a
start if DEI can maintain the same quality as for Khalanyak.
There is a superb snake dance by Waheeda Rehman in Guide as
are a lot more. She was recently on 'Bhaje Payal ' a series
on Indian actresses/dancers and said that the director
wanted her to kiss the back of the snake's head and would
only desist when she said she would only do it if he showed
her how !
She was also a trained classical dancer , a bit surprising
as from her name it seems that she came from a Conservative
Muslim family of Hyderabad.
Guide is a must see movie. Its one of those movies that once
you see it , you never forget ..
Mo
to the part he had stopped the movie and it takes a fair
time -even though I think its 9x speed .
There is no need to do that , pressing chapter forward a few
times will take you through the whole disc quite
quickly . Another way is to press 'Last memo' button just
before stopping the disc and when you press play again it
will go to the place you stopped at .
Of course one must always connect the DVD to the stereo .
Then one can turn off the TV , and listen to the songs on
the stereo . Press the rpt function to listen to the gems on
movies like Aan again and again.
Ghulam -1998 -English subtitles- ErosDEI .
Amir , Rani
Picture quality -very good
Sound -Superb -listen to the train thundering as the teens
play chicken running towards it .
Rani is a lonely rich girl and falls in love with Amir . He
actually sang the song ' Will you come to Khandla ?' Not
sure how it escaped a ban as that is the place apparently
Bombay boys and girls go to make whoope . Terrific fights .
Ram Balram -1980 -English subtitles -Eros DEI
Amitabh, Zeenat , Rakhee, Vinod
Picture quality - okay
Sound-good
Cops and robbers , havent seen it yet . With Zeenat it
should be good
Muqudar Ka Sikander -1978 -Eros DEI -English subtitles
Picture -good
Sound- very good
Rekha , Zeenat , Amitabh ,Amjad ,Dharmendra
More cops and robbers . Havent seen it .
If T series can bring out such an excellent picture from a
1950s movie with Khandan there is no reason why DEI cant do
the same . Scratchy prints are not a good idea . Probably
better off to rent these two movies for those who are Zeenat
fans .
Aflatoon - 1998 - WWE -no subtitles
Akshay , Urmilla
Picture quality -Awful
Sound -okay
No excuse to bring out a DVD with such bad picture quality ,
its probably a single layer . Story of a poor ruffian
determined to trap and marry a rich girl .
Mo
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I couldnt resist putting a comment having seen the first
half . The picture quality improves tremendously after the
first twenty minutes .
What is fantastic about this DVD is however the amazing
accuracy of the English translation . It really is literal
and perfect , even the Urdu shairi (poetry) has been done
correctly ! . For those who dont understan Urdu and want to
get a feel of the emotional impact these words can have on
viewers just watch the scene at the gravesite after the boy
has just buried his mother and Kader Khan as the holy man
gives him powerful advice on how to live .
Whoever has done this translation for Eros DEI is a genius
-dont let him or her go and make him or do the songs as
well . Songs are a cinch after the difficult Urdu shairi and
add greatly to the enjoyment of the movies . I wish Rmim
readers instead of indulging in pointless backbiting and
chit chat would do some work and translate at least one
song a month - ie those who can understand both Urdu and
English .
For anyone who doesnt understand Urdu , this DVD is a must
have just to see what masters the Urdu writers are , and why
India must make an effort to set up institutions where the
language can be preserved and developed further . Having
over 100 words for love it is a unique language to convey
emotions and feelings .
After having seen the movie write to DEI to congratulate
them on this superb subtitling . These movies will be
rented in millions from American video stores once the songs
are done as well and in four or five languages.
Would appreciate a comment from Irwin about what he thought
of the translation ..
Mo
SATYA- DEI/EROS-1998, 5.1 dolby digital,english
subtitles,175 minutes.
The latest dvd release from DEI/EROS is Ram Gopal Verma's
critically
acclaimed crime drama "Satya" and it is given a first-class
treatment
which is, of late, becoming commonplace from DEI/EROS.
Giving the dvd
consumer more than a no-frills product, which companies like
Superdigital and WEG have been dumping on the consumer, is
one sure way
to attract and keep new customers. For instance, where else
can you get
such cool main menu graphics like they give you in the
"Satya" dvd.
Press DVD menu and you get an image of "Satya" star
J.D.Chakravarthy
pointing a gun straight at you. Select an option and you
hear the sound
of 3 gunshots followed by smoke oozing out the gun barrel
and a jigsaw
puzzle dismantling of the image as you head to your
destination.
Subtitles, song menu, chapter index, play movie, upcoming
dvd releases,
and details of currently available dvd releases are
available at your
fingertips. Set in Mumbai, this is the
story of Satya
(Chakravorty) who comes to the big city to earn a living but
is soon
drawn into the Mumbai underworld. He eventually meets and
falls in love
with Vidya (Urmilla Matondkar, excellent in a small role)
which
complicates the life he has been living and what he hopes
for their
future. "Satya" is a violent and realistic crime drama with
excellent
perfomances by all. Expertly directed by Verma, one of
bollywood's most
inventive directors. The video picture is excellent, on par
with
DEI/EROS superbly done "Soldier." The 5.1 audio is in a
word-
sensational. During a violent gun battle with police,
bullets fly from
speaker to speaker, from front to back and side to side. It
was so
realistic I almost felt like ducking for cover, myself. The
backgrond
music by Vishal is stirring, and the songs are melodious and
memorable.
Especially "Gholi Mar", "Sapne Mein," and "Baadlon Se." Lata
Mangeshkar
and the other singers excel. A must-have dvd. "Satya" is not
yet
available at most outlets, but can be purchased directly
from DEI at:
www.indianfilmsdvd.com
Mo
to plead for literal translations as done in Muqaddar ka
Skindar and for songs
Something like this you can cut and paste and add your
comments to
ati...@indianfilmsdvd.com
in...@superdvd.com
EROS...@aol.com.
Dear Sir ,
You have the best picture quality amongst the Bollywood
movie producers .
Please subtitle the movies the way that has been done in an
excellent manner for Muqqadar Ka Sikkandar ie a literal
translation -congratulations to the person - but also
include the songs and do it in four or five languages . This
will expand your market to the mainstream video stores and
may lead to sales in millions.
DVD reviews are stored on rec.arts.movies.local.indian
Irwin wrote
I liked the "Muqaddar" dvd very much and I thought it was
well written,
but I didn't know of its use of Urdu till you mentioned it.
I just
replayed the graveyard scene you cited and I agree that it
is a
brilliant piece of dialogue, which the Urdu language
embellishes
beautifully. If enough people write about song subtitling to
DEI it could happen. They have been responsive to other
suggestions- improvingtheir audio and video for example.
Mo
DISTINGUISH A PIRATED DVD FROM A EROS ENTERTAINMENT
ORIGINAL.
1. On a single sided DVD, on the inner ring at the back
you should
see the words SONO PRESS or JVC CA IPFIL243.
If these are missing, then these are not EROS DVDs.
2. On a double sided DVD, on the inner ring if it has the
letters IPF1664 mentioned, it is
pirated.
SHOLAY, KARAN ARJUN, AKELE HUM AKELE TUM, HUM APKE HAIN
KAUN..!,
PARDES, SOLDIER, DIL SE.., MAACHIS, MOTHER INDIA,
DILWALE DULHANIYA
LE JAYENGE, ARE AVAILABLE PIRATED OPENLY.
?
SO PLEASE BUY ONLY THE ONES WITH EROS LOGO.
ALSO BEWARE OF PIRATED DVDS THAT HAVE EROS LOGOS NOW.
ONLY SUPPORT STORES THAT DO NOT SUPPORT PIRACY.
IN CASE THEY DO SELL YOU A PIRATED DVD, PLEASE RETURN IT
AND DEMAND
YOUR MONEY BACK. LEGALLY THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO DO SO.
?
Mo
ka Skindar (mks) . As mentioned before the translation is
EXCELLENT and those who dont understand Urdu will for the
first time appreciate how powerful the dialogs are when they
watch this movie . I could only pick one or two sentences in
the whole movie that I could quibble about -at one point for
example he translates 'you have lifted a load from my heart
' as ' I feel relieved' but otherwise it is all perfectly
literal . A contrast is Aah which is so badly translated
that it is almost funny .
The second point is that this movie is 21 years old and it
is interesting to note how much Bombay has changed . Also
the dialogs are written by India's resident Afghan -Kader
Khan (the one who plays the holy man in the movie ) and he
is still writing and acting in movies -eg Dulhe Raja - and
he must get an award for bringing so much pleasure to
millions .
There are also interesting real life situations here. Vinod
Khanna for example went off to join the Rajneesh set up in
California (osho) and his son is of course Akhsay Khanna .
Rekha (the courtesan in the movie) has been reported never
to have married again because she still has a crush on
Amitabh.
And finally one of the songs HAS been translated in the
movie -the one in the last few minutes and the translator
has done a perfect job . Songs occupy about 30mins of a
movie and with musical interludes maybe 15min of singing of
which half are repeating verses , so the translators need to
do only an additional 7-10 mins . But they are the most
important part of the movie as they express the emotions the
best and move the story along or give it a new twist and
English with its vast vocabulary is an easy language to
translate to .
The real money will only be made from main stream video
rental stores but they wont rent these out without the songs
being subtitled as they will recieve endless complaints and
of course the second generation south asians who dont speak
the language need them too.
So do write to DEI and superdvd to correct this very
important point .
Mo
where you stopped and pressing it again will restart the
movie at the same spot . Remarkably the DVD machine remember
this for the past five dvds you have played .
To give people the flavour of the beauty of the Urdu
language in these movies and the importance of accurate and
literal translation here is an example -the last song from
MKS when the hero cradles his dying friend in his arms and
sings this song
Zindagi to bewaffa hai , Ek din thukrayegi x2
Mot muhabat hai , apne saath le jayegi
Mur ke jeene ki adaa jo duniya ko sikhlayega
Wo Muqaddar ka Skindar kehlayege
I would tranlate that as
Life is unfaithful , one day it will betray you
Death is your (true) lover, it will take you along (forever)
The one who by his dying shows the world how to live
That one will be called the Alexander (conqueror) of
destiny.
Alexander the Great is considered a mighty conqueror in
India. The subtitler for this movie who has done a fantastic
job and his name should be in the movie credits translates
the last two lines as
While at the doorsteps of death
The one who , to the world teaches the way to live
Will be called the conqueror of destiny
Mo
year Whether anyone will be able to afford it is another
matter . So having two of these in one PC and you can make
copies of segments ..
Dez
copying DVDs, or segments of them, is not (unless hacked, which
apparently is VERY difficult) possible.
Mo
www.indiaplaza.com
www.superdvd.com
and in Europe
http://www.scan.co.uk/
Service is excellent and deliveries are within a week if you
order ups.
Detailed movie reviews at
http://www.indolink.com/bollywood/mvierevs.html
Soldier -1998 - Eros DEI - English subtitles -Dolby 5.1
Picture quality - very good
Sound - Perfect .
Not much more that I can add to Irwin's excellent and
informative post on this DVD . I think Superdigital
(Gharwali , Dukhe Raja etc. ) still have a slight edge in
picture detail but their sound cannot match DEI and there is
not much in it . Even DEI -Khalynayak and Mohra had
excellent picture quality. It would be interesting to hear
other people's comments on the picture and sound quality .
Subtitling seems accurate but then this one doesnt have as
much Urdu poetry as MKS. If the DVD makers want to make big
sales they have to subtitle the songs and in many languages
as these movies are popular all over the world but people
are not going to buy them if they cant understand the
songs..
Mo
South Indian classical dance and this lady popularized them
all over the world -performing in front of Kennedy , Mao and
other leaders..
from rediff.com
In memoriam
Placido P D'Souza salutes the memory of Indrani Rehman, the
famed dancer who passed into the ages last fortnight
It is somewhat surprising that little, if any, attention has
been paid by the Indian media to the passing away of Indrani
Rehman earlier this month in New York. She was certainly a
renowned exponent of Indian classical dance in her time --
one of the all-time greats in her line who did not let
advancing age stop her from promoting Bharat Natyam
overseas.
Her name hit the headlines when she won the Miss India title
some time in the '50s. At that time, this contest was
something of a novelty, and pictures of Indrani in a
classical dance pose were on the front pages of almost every
newspaper.
Little did I realise then -- still at university -- that I
would be meeting Indrani in person. This took place when I
was appointed Indian consul-general in New York in the early
'80s. She came for one of the functions organised by the
consulate and I found her a friendly person, anxious and
willing to help us in our work.
One of the "perks" of being the Indian consul-general in New
York is the opportunity to visit Puerto Rico and the US
Virgin Islands in the Caribbean for Republic Day
celebrations by Indian communities there. This has been a
tradition for many years now, and provides welcome relief
from the winter in New York.
During my first visit to Puerto Rico, an Indian professor at
the university complained that nothing was being done to
make the people aware of India's rich cultural heritage. He
said he would be happy to organise something in this area
with help from the consulate.
On my return to New York, I spoke to Indrani Rehman about
the possibility of her giving a dance performance in Puerto
Rico the following year. She responded enthusiastically and,
along with her daughter Sukanya, accompanied me to the
island the following January.
Her performances at the university and on television were
highly acclaimed, and I am grateful for her help in
providing the inhabitants of Puerto Rico with a glimpse of
India's culture. It was particularly gratifying to have
someone like her on that trip as she was most charming and
friendly towards all those that she met -- quite unlike some
other artistes that I have had to handle in my overseas
assignments.
We kept in touch thereafter, off and on, exchanging
Christmas and New Year greetings. During the last few years,
whenever I visited the United States, I would call her and
chat about what she was doing and what the Indian cultural
scene was like in New York.
Last summer, she told me about her work of teaching and
training American girls in Indian classical dance. She
invited me to attend an open-air performance by two of them
in a park in downtown Manhattan.
It was a fine performance -- a tribute to Indrani's own
expertise and teaching skills. In fact, I would not have
realised that the girls that were dancing that evening were
Americans had she not told me.
I congratulated her on her achievement and we talked about
the other Indian cultural events that were taking place in
New York at that time. She was grateful for having finally
received the video cassette of her dance performance in
Puerto Rico -- something I had misplaced in my wanderings
around the world.
More recently I wrote to her about a survey that our journal
New India Digest was conducting with prominent individuals
on the subject of India and the coming millennium. There was
some delay in her reply.
She finally sent a fax in December, explaining that a stroke
had kept her in hospital for over a month. In spite of her
illness she was determined to go on working, and wrote: "I
am on medication for life but hope to continue teaching with
an assistant, and promoting good dancers as usual."
Her responses to the questionnaire were short and to the
point. According to Indrani, India's principal achievement
in the preceding century had been to hold free and fair
elections. Its major failure -- religious fundamentalism.
On the question of her concerns for the future, she wrote:
"I fear India, once great, will not reach greatness
internationally next year, in spite of brilliant
individuals" and felt the fault lay with corrupt
politicians.
It is a pity that one who had done so much during her
lifetime to increase awareness of Indian culture abroad
should have passed away somewhat pessimistic about the
nation's future.
Placido P D'Souza, a former Indian diplomat, currently edits
New India Digest
The Rediff Specials
Mo
By Sathya Saran
MUMBAI: The battlelines have been drawn, with less than 24
hours left for the war to begin. Where else can you watch
titans clashing headlong for honour and trophies?
The 44th Filmfare Awards night has set the stage and it is
for Sunday night to show what the outcome of the battle will
be --who will return home bearing triumphant trophies and
who will wait for another year, another round of rivalry.
Who wins and who loses will depend as much on the prowess of
the combatants as on the will and voice of the people. So it
has been and so it shall always be. Therein lies the charm,
the unpredictability, and the rub.
It is only when it is time for the stars to come out that it
will be known who this year's favourites are, though there
is no secret about the titans who wait in the wings, waging
their battle of hope.
The three major Khans are there, staking their claim to the
title of best actor, along with Govinda and Ajay Devgan. And
it is anybody's guess whether it is the endearing Tapori of
Ghulam or the completely believable charmer of Pyaar To Hona
Hi Tha, or that unbeatable, every movie buff's favourite
Govinda, who will romp home triumphant. On the other hand,
it is as likely that Dame Luck will favour Salman in Pyaar
Kiya To Darna Kya or Shah Rukh in Kuch Kuch Hota Hai.
Tough competition also marks the award of the best actress.
Manisha Koirala and Urmila Matondkar are pitted against
Kajol, who is pitted against herself--after all, she has
three nominations.
Vying for the best actor in a supporting role are actors of
no mean merit either. The Khans find a footing here too,
with kid brother Arbaaz Khan making his second bid at the
awards after Daraar for his role of the possessive elder
brother in Pyaar Kiya To Darna Kya, pitting his claim
against big brother Salman in Kuch Kuch Hota Hai. Thespian
Naseeruddin Shah shows his acting mettle in China Gate as
the upright man on a mission of vengeance. Om Puri, no mean
claimant at the awards, has his place in the list for Pyaar
To Hona Hi Tha as does Manoj Bajpai for his performance as
Bhiku Mhatre in Satya.
On the flip side of the supporting role coin, veteran
actress Raakhee in Soldier vies with Tanvi Azmi in Dushman,
Rani Mukherjee in Kuch Kuch Hota Hai, Preity Zinta in Dil Se
and Shefali Chhaya in Satya.
For the best performer in a comic role, the clash is between
Johny Lever with two nominations and Kadar Khan and Anupam
Kher hoping to add to their list of Filmfare trophies. The
only female contender for comedy is Archana Puran Singh. Kya
Baat Hai, she might have said in another avatar.
Villainy finds many forms..from the smooth-talking Shah Rukh
Khan in Duplicate to the menace of Mukesh Tiwari in China
Gate, Govind Namdeo in Satya, Sharat Saxena in Ghulam and
Ashuthosh Rana in Dushman.
As for the best film and the best director, it is that
classic clash between the new and the old, between the
veteran and the freshers. So, Ramgopal Varma's Satya, Karan
Johar's Kuch Kuch Hota Hai, Sohail Khan's Pyaar Kiya To
Darna Kya, Vikram Bhatt's Ghulam compete for Best Director
along with Abbas Mastaan for Soldier.
The trophies wait, the storm clouds rumble and the suspense
mounts. The Critics' Awards for Best Film and powerhouse
performance have gained super stature over the years.
Applauded by the discriminating as well as the ticket-buying
janta, the Critics' Awards are hotly contested.
Tomorrow is the night when the drama will unfold again,
conveying the power and glory of cinema. There will be a new
breed of winners and a new batch of victories. Yet another
chapter will be written in the history of films and the
Filmfare awards.
The Manikchand Group will be sponsoring the show for the
sixth consecutive year.
leher
I'd like to get my hands on the lyrics for the "Billo Day Ghar" song
(or any part of it!) soon - any help would be very gratefully accepted
including web-site pointers, if possible, before this Sunday.
An e-mail response would be even better,
Thanks in advance,
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Ashok
says...
>
The material in this article is irrelevant for RMIM.
It does,however, remind one that there isn't equivalent
interest in the awards related to music.
Come on, folks (at least those of you who follow the
recent music). Let us have some speculations. And
quickly!
And, noticed that while the names are a yawn in the music
director and lyricist categories, some unfamiliar (to me)
names have shown up in the playback singer categories.
Any opinions/further information?
Ashok
The nominations this year:
BEST MUSIC
A.R.RAHMAN (Dil Se)
ANU MALIK (Soldier)
JATIN-LALIT (Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
JATIN-LALIT (Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
VIJU SHAH (Bade Miyan Chote Miyan)
BEST LYRICS
GULZAR (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan ...Dil Se)
GULZAR (Ae ajnabi...Dil Se)
JAVED AKHTAR (Mere mehboob mere sanam...Duplicate)
SAMEER (Ladki badi anjani hai ...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
SAMEER (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
BEST MALE PLAYBACK SINGER
AAMIR KHAN (Aati kya Khandala...Ghulam)
KAMAAL KHAN (O o jaane jaana...Pyaar Kiya To Darna Kya)
KUMAR SANU (Ladki badi anjani hai ...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
SUKHWINDER SINGH (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan...Dil Se)
UDIT NARAYAN (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
BEST FEMALE PLAYBACK SINGER
ALKA YAGNIK (Chhamma chhamma ...China Gate)
ALKA YAGNIK (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
JASPINDER NIRULA (Title Song...Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
SANJEEVANI (Chori chori jab nazren mili...Kareeb)
SAPNA AWASTHI (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan ...Dil Se)
Nataraj NV
But then, mo is not known to notice such subtleties.
>Come on, folks (at least those of you who follow the
>recent music). Let us have some speculations. And
>quickly!
Yes, why not.
>
> BEST MALE PLAYBACK SINGER
>
>AAMIR KHAN (Aati kya Khandala...Ghulam)
On second thoughts, no thanks.
SKalra902
>>
>>AAMIR KHAN (Aati kya Khandala...Ghulam)
>
>
>On second thoughts, no thanks.
>
Does the popularity of just one song make him a PLAYBACK SINGER? Does that
tell us something about how far (south) the FF nominations can go? Shouldn't
the FF board supervising the nominations have cut it off? I hope the panel
selecting the award winners does.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Mo
Madhuri , Salman , Sunjay
Couldnt quite make out what year from the censor certificate
but it does have a very young looking Madhuri , Sanjay and
Salman so probably 84 .
Picture quality -Good
Sound -Very good
Subtitling -Excellent
Havent seen the movie yet . Subtitling is very good and
literal eg 'Only time will tell whether I turn out to be an
ember or a dew drop . At the moment I am a tear glistening
(waiting) on the lashes of time ' Dont know what context it
is said in , but it does sound good !
Some good songs by Pankaj Udhas .
If the companies could get together and marry the sound
quality of DEI with the picture quality of superdigital that
would he heaven ! T series have done a great job on the 40
year old Khandan and other companies should do the same.
One would also like to see different trailers for
forthcoming movies and DVDs on each new film disc..
Niraj Agarwalla
The movie was made in 1994, not 1984. I don't think Madhuri
was a big star yet. Regardless, a great movie. The songs are
wonderful, the acting was good, the story great. A definte keeper
in terms of DVD.
--
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GO RED SOX!!!!
il_...@yahoo.com
Since he himself sang the song on the screen, should
he even be called a PLAYBACK singer ?
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10033...@compuserve.com (Mo) wrote:
> Saajan - ?84 ? 94 - Eros DEI -English subtitles
> Madhuri , Salman , Sunjay
> Couldnt quite make out what year from the censor certificate
> but it does have a very young looking Madhuri , Sanjay and
> Salman so probably 84 .
> Picture quality -Good
> Sound -Very good
> Subtitling -Excellent
> Havent seen the movie yet . Subtitling is very good and
> literal eg 'Only time will tell whether I turn out to be an
> ember or a dew drop . At the moment I am a tear glistening
> (waiting) on the lashes of time ' Dont know what context it
> is said in , but it does sound good !
> Some good songs by Pankaj Udhas .
In a DVD movie, I suppose it IS possible to see the
Subtitling and hear the songs without seeing the
movie itself.
ani...@my-dejanews.com
ADhar...@WorldBank.Org (Ashok) wrote:
> The nominations this year:
>
> BEST MUSIC
>
> A.R.RAHMAN (Dil Se)
> ANU MALIK (Soldier)
> JATIN-LALIT (Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
> JATIN-LALIT (Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
> VIJU SHAH (Bade Miyan Chote Miyan)
>
ARR" best effort for hindi films to date, certainly not a 'yawn':-)
But, JL will take it, given that they have two nominations, and probably
for that awful KKHH.
> BEST LYRICS
>
> GULZAR (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan ...Dil Se)
> GULZAR (Ae ajnabi...Dil Se)
> JAVED AKHTAR (Mere mehboob mere sanam...Duplicate)
> SAMEER (Ladki badi anjani hai ...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
> SAMEER (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>
YAWN!
> BEST MALE PLAYBACK SINGER
>
> AAMIR KHAN (Aati kya Khandala...Ghulam)
> KAMAAL KHAN (O o jaane jaana...Pyaar Kiya To Darna Kya)
> KUMAR SANU (Ladki badi anjani hai ...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
> SUKHWINDER SINGH (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan...Dil Se)
> UDIT NARAYAN (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>
Interesting to see aamir khan, kamaal khan and sukhwinder here. I think
shukhwinder for 'chaiya chaiya' deserves it. But aamir might get it, after
all the Great Lady herself said that he sang this song in "sur".
> BEST FEMALE PLAYBACK SINGER
>
> ALKA YAGNIK (Chhamma chhamma ...China Gate)
> ALKA YAGNIK (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
> JASPINDER NIRULA (Title Song...Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
> SANJEEVANI (Chori chori jab nazren mili...Kareeb)
> SAPNA AWASTHI (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan ...Dil Se)
>
isn't jaspinder narula the one who did the duet(with sanjeevani) in 'kareeb'?
if she is, then she definitely has a very good voice. probably alka will get
it for 'chamma chamma' - she has two nominations!
Cheers,
Anil P. Hingorani
SKalra902
>
> The movie was made in 1994, not 1984. I don't think Madhuri
>was a big star yet. Regardless, a great movie. The songs are
>wonderful, the acting was good, the story great.
IIRC, the film was released in 1991.
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
SKalra902
>And, noticed that while the names are a yawn in the music
>director and lyricist categories, some unfamiliar (to me)
>names have shown up in the playback singer categories.
>Any opinions/further information?
>Ashok
>
>The nominations this year:
>
> BEST MUSIC
>
>A.R.RAHMAN (Dil Se)
>ANU MALIK (Soldier)
>JATIN-LALIT (Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>JATIN-LALIT (Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
>VIJU SHAH (Bade Miyan Chote Miyan)
While Dil Se has had its share of such popular chartbusters like Chal chhaiyyan
chhaiyyan.... and ai ajnabi tu bhii kabhie, now one, not one music critic from
any of the movie magazines has drawn the attention to the fact that ARR copied
the Chaiyyan chaiyyan from the late Ustad Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. Ai ajnabi has
opening refrains from "dhiire chal dhiire chal ai bhigi hawa" from Boy Friend.
It may be a personal problem for me, but I cannot enjoy the compositions when I
am trying to find a reason for the tune having been copied.
Soldier's Anu Malik does nothing but get 'inspired' from various sources, so my
vote does not go for him, either. Viju Shah did not show much imagination for
BMCM either. Pedestrian music, at best.
That leaves Jatin Lalit, by default. Among the two films for which they have
been nominated, KKHH has the more refreshing music, IMO, even though it is so
close to listening to DDLJ all over again.
>
> BEST LYRICS
>
>GULZAR (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan ...Dil Se)
>GULZAR (Ae ajnabi...Dil Se)
>JAVED AKHTAR (Mere mehboob mere sanam...Duplicate)
>SAMEER (Ladki badi anjani hai ...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>SAMEER (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
I am voting against chaiyyan chaiyyan for the same reason - not original
lyrics. And what do you make of ''..jiski zubaan urdu ki tarah''. I would
have imagined such wording coming more from PK Misra/Mehboob, ARR's stock
lyricists for his Hindi film compositions. Wonder why "jiya jale jaan jale.."
was not even among the voted lyrics. It has much better, Gulzar style poetry
in "nainon tale dhuaan chale, raat bhar duaan chale..".
Ai ajnabi is obviously my choice here, since none of the other three have any
thing lyrical worthwhile to write anywhere about, except situational expediency
for the films.
>
> BEST MALE PLAYBACK SINGER
>
>AAMIR KHAN (Aati kya Khandala...Ghulam)
>KAMAAL KHAN (O o jaane jaana...Pyaar Kiya To Darna Kya)
>KUMAR SANU (Ladki badi anjani hai ...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>SUKHWINDER SINGH (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan...Dil Se)
>UDIT NARAYAN (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
Aamir Khan, I have already written about in a separate post. Kamal Khan may
have hit the paydirt wihis O o jaane jaana, but he does render the song out of
'sur' at places. Kumar Sanu for the ladki badi anjaani hai in KKHH may have
sung it well, going by the popularity charts, but somehow, personally, I can't
vote for him. :))) Udit Narayan has sung the title KKHH song very well, with
Alka Yagnik, and my choice is for them in their individual categories.
> BEST FEMALE PLAYBACK SINGER
>
>ALKA YAGNIK (Chhamma chhamma ...China Gate)
>ALKA YAGNIK (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>JASPINDER NIRULA (Title Song...Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
>SANJEEVANI (Chori chori jab nazren mili...Kareeb)
>SAPNA AWASTHI (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan ...Dil Se)
Happy listenings.
Satish Kalra
Snehal B. Oza
>The material in this article is irrelevant for RMIM.
>It does,however, remind one that there isn't equivalent
>interest in the awards related to music.
>Come on, folks (at least those of you who follow the
>recent music). Let us have some speculations. And
>quickly!
I hope mine will count. :-)
>And, noticed that while the names are a yawn in the music
>director and lyricist categories, some unfamiliar (to me)
>names have shown up in the playback singer categories.
>Any opinions/further information?
Yes and interesting one, atleast to me.
>
>A.R.RAHMAN (Dil Se)
I wouldn't give ARR on this one.
>ANU MALIK (Soldier)
Good.
>JATIN-LALIT (Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>JATIN-LALIT (Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
Nice music.
>VIJU SHAH (Bade Miyan Chote Miyan)
Haven't heard any songs.
> BEST LYRICS
>
>GULZAR (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan ...Dil Se)
>GULZAR (Ae ajnabi...Dil Se)
I will look at Gulzar at leisure time for I need time to digest him, if I could.
>JAVED AKHTAR (Mere mehboob mere sanam...Duplicate)
I liked this one.
>SAMEER (Ladki badi anjani hai ...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>SAMEER (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>
> BEST MALE PLAYBACK SINGER
>AAMIR KHAN (Aati kya Khandala...Ghulam)
>KAMAAL KHAN (O o jaane jaana...Pyaar Kiya To Darna Kya)
This singer looks promising. I liked this song and his singing.
>KUMAR SANU (Ladki badi anjani hai ...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>SUKHWINDER SINGH (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan...Dil Se)
I won't say this was bad performance, just I didn't like the song much.
>UDIT NARAYAN (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
I don't this song, but I like Udit Narayan more than any other new generation
guys. Abhijeet was not bad too.
>
> BEST FEMALE PLAYBACK SINGER
>
>ALKA YAGNIK (Chhamma chhamma ...China Gate)
>ALKA YAGNIK (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>JASPINDER NIRULA (Title Song...Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
She brings in this song the "Punjabi lehakaa". I liked her rendition. To some
hers is shrill voice. But if we could withstand Sharada, she is no comparison
to her.
>SANJEEVANI (Chori chori jab nazren mili...Kareeb)
Ah! Sanjeev Rambhadaran can talk more about her as I guess he shared stage with
Sanjeevani xxx-ker (forgot her surname). She is from Maharashtra and the reason
I admire her is she is big fan of Anil Biswas. She was the one who brought songs
like 'Ik Pal Ruk Jana' and 'Ja Main To Se Nahi Bolun' to TVS Sa Re Ga Ma. She
reached in the Mega Final and lost to a very good singer called Bela (IIRC).
Sanjeevani got her break in films through TVS Sa Re Ga Ma. When V V Chopra
was looking for fresh voice he accidentally found the voice he was looking for
in TVS Sa Re Ga Ma. That was she.
Snehal
Mo
to the stereo system . For poetic movies like Heer Ranjha
its fun just listening to the dialog without switching the
TV on , but to see the subtitles you have to watch the movie
..
il_...@yahoo.com wrote:
In a DVD movie, I suppose it IS possible to see
the
Subtitling and hear the songs without seeing the
movie itself.
>
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Mo
and sofas were typical Indian , curved and elaborately
decorated a bit like what the Kings sit on in the
mythologicals .
Now in movies its all uncomfortable western style , short
backs , all squares and rectangles one tends to slip off (eg
HADMRH , )
Mo
. I am looking forward to Sridevi's 'Chaalbaaz' where she
does the Tandava -Shiva's maginificent dance where he ends
the Universe-apparently the only movie it has ever been
performed in . Also looking forward to good quality DVDs of
Taqdeerwala and Qila..
Nataraj NV
>>>
>>>AAMIR KHAN (Aati kya Khandala...Ghulam)
>>
>>
>>
>
>Does the popularity of just one song make him a PLAYBACK SINGER? Does that
>tell us something about how far (south) the FF nominations can go?
Shouldn't
>the FF board supervising the nominations have cut it off? I hope the panel
>selecting the award winners does.
>
I hope you got my meaning. There isn't a hindi film song I **really** like
that was recorded in 80s or 90s.
And, yes, in strict sense its not playback either ( its altogether a
different matter whether its "singing" at all ). For eg. when we say 'Dil
Jalta Hai' is Mukesh's first song as a playback singer ... it is excluding
the songs he recorded for roles he was enacting himself.
Mo
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My votes:
(note: I do not necessarily like these songs so much as to consider them
for awards. Am just picking one out of the available choices. "a.Ndho.n
me.n kaaNaa raajaa"):-)
> BEST MUSIC
>
> A.R.RAHMAN (Dil Se)
> ANU MALIK (Soldier)
> JATIN-LALIT (Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
> JATIN-LALIT (Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
> VIJU SHAH (Bade Miyan Chote Miyan)
Tough choice. I am struggling between selecting ARR or JL for PTHHT. If
Rahman sounds repetitive so does JL. KKHH reminds you of Kabhi haan kabhi
na, JJWS and DDLJ. BMCM doesn't even deserve to be in this list. One would
expect V.Shah to do a bit better. Ditto Soldier.
Award goes to - ARR
> BEST LYRICS
>
> GULZAR (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan ...Dil Se)
> GULZAR (Ae ajnabi...Dil Se)
> JAVED AKHTAR (Mere mehboob mere sanam...Duplicate)
> SAMEER (Ladki badi anjani hai ...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
> SAMEER (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
I am surprised that Soldier found a place in MD list and Duplicate didn't
for "mere mehboob mere sanam"! In any case nothing out of the ordinary
anyway. Sameer's lyrics for KKHH are at best amateurish. The kind that
would appeal to Mills & Boon readers. The title line "kuch kuch hota
hai" is evidence enough.
Award goes to - Gulzar for "ai ajnabi"
> BEST MALE PLAYBACK SINGER
>
> AAMIR KHAN (Aati kya Khandala...Ghulam)
> KAMAAL KHAN (O o jaane jaana...Pyaar Kiya To Darna Kya)
> KUMAR SANU (Ladki badi anjani hai ...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
> SUKHWINDER SINGH (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan...Dil Se)
> UDIT NARAYAN (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
The question about Aamir's nomination for playback singing, IMO is moot.
Play ack singing doesn't mean a song sung by a person for an actor on
screen. It just means that it is a song recorded in a music studio on
which the actor lip synchs on screen. ANd the singer can very well be the
actor himself. Gone are the days when the dialogues were recorded right
off of the shooting. These days even they are play backed by the actors
themselves. In this category its really a choice between Kamaal and
Sukhwinder.
award goes to - Kamaal Khan for "o o jaane jana"
I am surprised that Udit is nominated for "tum paas aaye" and not for "ai
ajnabi". "tum paas aaye" is the kind of a song we have heard from Udit a
millon times. "ai ajnabi" was a bit different, more suited for Sonu Nigam
and Udit did well too.
> BEST FEMALE PLAYBACK SINGER
>
> ALKA YAGNIK (Chhamma chhamma ...China Gate)
> ALKA YAGNIK (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
> JASPINDER NIRULA (Title Song...Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
> SANJEEVANI (Chori chori jab nazren mili...Kareeb)
> SAPNA AWASTHI (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan ...Dil Se)
I am unable to make a selection here since I haven't heard Sanjeevani's
song in kareeb. I will eliminate Alka Yagnik and Sapna awasthi for I don't
favor their nominated songs. So had I heard the songs of kareeb, it would
have been a choice between Sanjeevani and Jaspinder for me. No Kavita this
time!
just curious, was Sapna Awasthi nominated for Pardes last year? I think
she did a much better job there than in "chal chaiyyan".
Hema.
-
Speed gets you nowhere if you're headed the wrong way!
LTsering
>Come on, folks (at least those of you who follow the
>recent music). Let us have some speculations. And
>quickly!
>
>And, noticed that while the names are a yawn in the music
>director and lyricist categories, some unfamiliar (to me)
>names have shown up in the playback singer categories.
>Any opinions/further information?
>
>
>Ashok
It always seems that great singers are nominated for mediocre performances, and
this year seems no different.
I mean, Udit being nominated for "Tum paas aye" but NOT for his gorgeous -- and
technically awesome -- "E Ajnabi"???
> BEST MALE PLAYBACK SINGER
>
>AAMIR KHAN (Aati kya Khandala...Ghulam)
>KAMAAL KHAN (O o jaane jaana...Pyaar Kiya To Darna Kya)
>KUMAR SANU (Ladki badi anjani hai ...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>SUKHWINDER SINGH (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan...Dil Se)
>UDIT NARAYAN (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
...and the as-yet-underappreciated Jaspinder Nirula nominated for "Pyaar To
Hona Hi Tha" and -- not for that kicka** song she did on "Bade Miyan Chote
Miyan"?
And where the heck is Kavita?
> BEST FEMALE PLAYBACK SINGER
>
>ALKA YAGNIK (Chhamma chhamma ...China Gate)
>ALKA YAGNIK (Tum paas aaye...Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>JASPINDER NIRULA (Title Song...Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
>SANJEEVANI (Chori chori jab nazren mili...Kareeb)
>SAPNA AWASTHI (Chal chhaiyan chhaiyan ...Dil Se)
Befuddled (as usual)
Lisa Tsering
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Mo
By Rekha Dixit and Saloni Meghani
The Times of India News Service
MUMBAI: The film industry's glitterati - from veteran
thespians to budding starlets - converged at the Andheri
Sports Complex in Mumbai on Sunday evening to celebrate the
44th Filmfare Awards function, the event that salutes the
best in the business.
The evening began on a sombre note, with a tribute to the
chairperson of The Times of India Group Ashok Jain, who
passed away on February 4. It was Mr Jain's belief that `the
show must go on timelessly' that set the mood for the event-
packed occasion.
The tension was palpable and the competition stiff for the
coveted awards. While five heroes, Aamir Khan, Salman Khan,
Shah Rukh Khan, Govinda and Ajay Devgan, vied for the Best
Actor's award, Kajol was pitted against herself, with three
nominations for the Best Actress trophy. The other
contenders for this prize are Manisha Koirala and Urmila
Matondkar.
The hits of 1998 - Satya , Kuch Kuch Hota Hai, Pyaar Kiya To
Darna Kya, Ghulam and Soldier - were contenders for the Best
Film. Their directors, Ramgopal Varma, Karan Johar, Sohail
Khan, Vikram Bhatt and Abbas Mastaan, respectively, are
keeping their fingers crossed, hoping to be chosen the Best
Director of the year.
The star-spangled function was anchored with panache by
compere Nikhil Kapoor. Accompanied by a host of beauty
queens and actresses, including Tara Deshpande, Namrata
Shirodkar, Femina Miss India Universe '99 Gul Panag, Shilpa
Shetty, former Miss World Diana Hayden and Karisma Kapoor,
he held the audience captive with his lively presentation.
Artistes flew in from all parts of the world to entertain
the mammoth audience at the venue as well as the star-struck
millions who watched their favourites on television. The
show was kicked off with a jugalbandi by tabla maestro Zakir
Hussain and pop singer Remo Fernandes. The internationally
acclaimed reggae band UB40, Bhangra rap artiste Malkit Singh
and fusion artiste Vikrant, backed by the four-member
Anglo-Asian group DIP, kept the crowds swaying to their
foot-tapping numbers.
Film artistes, including Aishwarya Rai, Sonali Bendre, Shah
Rukh Khan, Rani Mukherjee and Malaika Arora-Khan, brought
the stage to life with their electrifying acts. Comic relief
was provided by Johnny Lever, while Gulshan Grover excelled
with his villainous stunts.
The audience was on the edge of its seats when the Canadian
duo Acrobasia comprising Christian Paquet and Jean Francoise
Martel performed gravity-defying gymnastic feats.
Veteran actor Manoj Kumar and dancing sensation of
yesteryear Helen were felicitated with the Lifetime
Achievement Awards. Shekhar Kapur, who went global with his
Elizabeth, was honoured with a Special Award.
In the technical award categories, which were announced last
week, H. Sridhar bagged the best sound recording award for
Satya. The film also won the trophy for best editing (Apurva
Asrani and Bhanu Daya) and background music (Sandeep
Chowtha). Sharmishta Roy was awarded the prize for best art
direction (Kuch Kuch Hota Hai) and Santosh Sivan the best
cinematography trophy (Dil Se). Soldier won the best action
award (Akbar Bakshi) while Rajkumar Santoshi and K.K. Raina
bagged the prize for best dialogue in China Gate. Karan
Johar walked away with the best screenplay award for Kuch
Kuch.. Mahesh Bhatt's sensitive love story, Zakhm, won the
best story award.
The film Tu Tithe Mi won all the popular awards in the
Marathi section, including best film, best director (Sanjay
Soorkar), best actress (Suhas Joshi), best actor (Mohan
Joshi) and best music (Anand Modak). In a break with the
past, the Marathi awards were also announced in advance of
Sunday's show.
The function, which was sponsored by the Manikchand Group
for the sixth consecutive year, will be re-telecast on the
Sony Entertainment Television channel on Monday night at
9.10 p.m. Coca Cola provided the beverages and Monginis the
refreshments for the evening. The transportation was by
Adarsh Rent-A-Car and the communication facilities by Max
Touch Cellular Phone service.
Mohranis and Soorma directed the star acts which were
choreographed by Ganesh Hegde. The sound, lights and other
effects were set up by Wizcraft, which also presented UB40.
The show was rehearsed at the Hotel Sea Princess.
Sanora-Times Music Associates also helped with the show.
Mo
sound on the stereo . For well mastered discs like Saajan
its a great joy to hear the crystal clear songs . Picture
quality varies from VHS standard to good DVD but like all
DVDs you have to fiddle with the brightness , contrast and
color settings to get the best picture.
Subtitling as mentioned before is very accurate and another
good thing is that the Eros logo being grayish is hardly
noticeable when it comes on during the songs .
Having missed most of the late 80s and early 90s movies as
they didnt show them in the cinemas and I refused to rent
bad quality VHS tapes , so there is a lot of catching up to
do . Saajan has good Urdu poetry and the art decor in the
background is very Indian .
There were 9 or 10 songs in the movie and it seems that over
time the number of songs in films has gradually got less .
HADMRH apparently had only 5 and even the non South Asians I
went to see the movie complained that there were too few .
Apparently they have added one more in India .
BTW I have just seen a VCD (3 VCD for one movie) pirate
copy of this movie and Aa ab laut chalen and my advice to
anyone is dont buy them . There are plenty of good old DVDs
to go through and within a month most of these movies will
be out on legit DVD anyway .
One good thing about good quality pirate DVD is that it will
force the makers to improve their product and adding
subtitles in different languages - six English , Hindi ,
Urdu . Arabic and Spanish should take care of
piracy .
BTW there is a button on the DVD machine where one can leave
the fluorescent display on and since most movies are 180mins
one can easily work out how much of the movie is left ..
Mo
interviews with SRK , Subash Ghai , Manisha and location
shooting with Raveena and Chini Prakash doing the 'ore ore '
song and dance sequence ..
sanj...@my-dejanews.com
skal...@aol.com (SKalra902) wrote:
> > BEST MALE PLAYBACK SINGER
> >
> >AAMIR KHAN (Aati kya Khandala...Ghulam)
Hmm...he has done justice to THIS song...his voice definitely fits the mood,
and it's fun listening.
> >KAMAAL KHAN (O o jaane jaana...Pyaar Kiya To Darna Kya)
If this guy gets ANY AWARD for this song, I'll have to...um - never mind.
Sanjeev Ramabhadran
Raj
see through them.
Mo
remote to switch from normal TV to DVD and if you have the DVD plugged
into the stereo you dont have to miss the DVD sound when watching a TV
program . If the VHS is plugged into the other scart socket then one
can easily switch between the three when boring political speeches are
being made.
Irwin or somebody else can probably tell us why the DEI discs
even older like MKS sound so much better than superdigital ones .
The 21 dance and song videos by Superdigital have a couple of
good tracks by NFAK (piya re) and Lata (Ah mere watanke logo) but I am
generally not into Indiepop . It is interesting to see however ,
comparing the beautiful gold Egyptian outfit worn by Rageshwari in the
first song and comparing it with the black jeans and clashing white
and blue shirt she wears later -how much fashion sense has
deteriorated amongst women in the last 5000 years .
Even Sapna Mukherjee (who played Sunil Shetty's wife in Border
) looks really good in jungle outfits in one of the tracks here .
Surely if God had wanted women to wear trousers and jeans he wouldnt
have given them such nice looking legs !..
Mo
training is given in schools will the kids appreciate their
own heritage..
NEW DELHI, Feb 24 (AFP) - A celebrated Indian classical
musician
on Wednesday hit out at MTV and Western pop music for
corrupting
young Indians.
Vilayat Khan, one of India's leading sitar players, told
the
Hindustan Times daily that the songs aired by MTV (Music
Television)
were obscene and meaningless.
"(It is) music for the eyes and not the ears," he said.
"I have
to close my eyes in shame every when I see television these
days.
"Unless something is done, it can lead to an identity
problem
for us, signs of which are already there. I feel sad to see
people
running after small things when there is such a wealth of
cultural
traditions in India."
Khan's outburst echoed a theme espoused by many senior
politicians in the ruling Hindu nationalist party, that
western
satellite television channels and music are undermining
Indian
traditions and social mores.
Khan also slammed experiments in Western and Indian music
as a
futile exercise.
"It does not gel ... fusion music is confusio music. How
can the
East and West meet when even our own music traditions in
north and
south India are so hugely different from each other?"
Pankaj Kakkar
guess he is too old to adjust to new styles of music anymore, but
considering that he is a musician I would have expected better.
Pankaj
Niraj Agarwalla
: I find Vilayat Khan's comments about fusion music hard to stomach. I
: guess he is too old to adjust to new styles of music anymore, but
: considering that he is a musician I would have expected better.
Many classical muscians, both Western and Eastern, have a certain
disdain for new forms of music. Classical musicians in the west
had low opinions of jazz in the 1920s, but now jazz is considered
the greatest Americal art form.
Mo
>I don't even think that their picture quality is that good (although
Mo seems to love it because it 'fills' most of the screen<
Are you sure you have your contrast right ? You really need
to get your contrast , color and brightness accurate to get
the best picture . For superdigital I find that the
brightness needs to be set below 50% and the contrast and
color above that .
Have you seen superdigital's Gharwali or Deewana Mastana ?
Just note the scene with Juhi and Anil on the Switzerland
street - the picture is so pin sharp one can see every
cobble in that paved street !
I think Superdigital is still the gold standard for picture
quality , even took the DVD to my local video hifi store and
they were amazed that even with the brightest reds (second
song in Gharwali with all the Goree mems -are they from
Bombay ? ) there was no color bleed at all .
What we should be truly thankful to them is that by bringing
out such excellent quality DVDs first they made it
difficult for the distributors to palm off second rate stuff
as they do on VHS - compare the outcry with the Sholay DVD .
Eros DEI have improved tremendously since then . If
Superdigital can get the sound right and the subtitling in
different languages accurate then they will I think have
achieved perfection .
BTW not all Hollywood movies are good quality . This is why
I think the GOI must step in with technical standards for
this export industry as it does with all other industries.
These movies can be a big hit in Korea , China , in fact I
get email from some Chinese women who quite like them .
It would be good to see more posts from non South Asians on
Ramli..
Toby
>Recordable DVD is already out, except all DVD's are encrypted so that
>copying DVDs, or segments of them, is not (unless hacked, which
>apparently is VERY difficult) possible.
AIUI, the major obstacle to recordable DVD currently is the politics of
it, as the studios are terrified of the piracy potential. If the copy
protection on DVD's was as good as you suggest, then I doubt there would
be this level of paranoia.
In reality, all that is required is a system to prevent Joe Public from
renting a title from the local video store and recording it onto a blank
at home. They should know by now that no copy protection system will
stop PC users from copying titles with recordable DVD drives, history
has shown that everything can be got around sooner or later.
>
>z...@pathcom.com
>
>Mo wrote:
>
>> I understand a recordable DVD for the PC is coming next
>> year Whether anyone will be able to afford it is another
>> matter . So having two of these in one PC and you can make
>> copies of segments ..
>
--
Toby
LTsering
> ADhar...@WorldBank.Org (Ashok) wrote:
>> The nominations this year:
>> A.R.RAHMAN (Dil Se)
>> ANU MALIK (Soldier)
>> JATIN-LALIT (Kuch Kuch Hota Hai)
>> JATIN-LALIT (Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha)
>> VIJU SHAH (Bade Miyan Chote Miyan)
>>
>But, JL will take it, given that they have two nominations, and probably
>for that awful KKHH.
Oh my god, I thought I was the only one who found the music to KKHH stinky
(except for the passable "Saajan ki ghar aye").
Thanks for the post!
Pardesi
people can or can't do. I love this new experimental stuff, I have become
bored of conventional Western music. A lot of new music coming out of India
is so fresh...
Pankaj Kakkar wrote in message <36D5C3A1...@gradient.cis.upenn.edu>...
>I find Vilayat Khan's comments about fusion music hard to stomach. I
>guess he is too old to adjust to new styles of music anymore, but
>considering that he is a musician I would have expected better.
>
>Pankaj
Mo
HT Correspondent (New Delhi, March 9)
Ravi Shankar with daughter Anoushka at a Press conference.
Photo: Pradeep Bhatia Noted sitarist Pandit Ravi Shankar who
was recently given Bharat Ratna, the highest civilian award
of the country, today said that he would like to score music
for films provided he was given an opportunity to do so.
He was talking to the mediapersons before his concert in the
Capital on his music, inspiration and influence. Pandit Ravi
Shankar, who is considered a phenomenon in the classical
music all over, said that he was not much inspired by
fusion. “I did not do anything which changed the Indianness
of the music-the raga and the tal,” he said. Talking about
the younger generation who have taken to classical music, he
said some of them have really come up well and are extremely
talented. In a reference to his daughter Anoushka Shankar,
he said that the present kids are a lot more sensible.
“However,” he added, “very few children of illustrious
classical musicians and singers took to the vocation of
their fathers".
According to him, dedication and sanskars were essentials to
succeed in the field. The sitarist who claims to have
composed Sare Jahan se acchha in 1945 and has been awarded
with some of the highest musical awards all over the world,
paid glowing tributes to his guru Baba Allauddin Khan and
described him as one of the best sitarists ever. He also
praised Ustad Faiyaz Khan, Abdul Hamid Khan, Rameshwar
Pathak, Inayat Khan, amongst others who were excellent
sitarists. When asked about the allegations that he lobbied
hard for the Bharat Ratna, the sitarist simply said that he
came to know about the award only after a call from the
President's office “The laurels came to him without any
lobbying but only due to his brilliance with the sitar," his
wife added.
Mo
Popular Asian television network Zee TV is spreading its
wings further with plans to gain greater visibility in
Canada, Holland, Germany and Portugal and launch of two more
channels in Britain later this year. The network, which
claims to go to 165,000 homes in Europe, of which 140,000
are in Britain alone, wants to be seen as a Eurocentric
channel rather than simply Britain-based as at present,
officials said. The network is widely watched across South
Asia and the Middle East.
Mo
snapped up by Bollywood . She is very pretty and has a
very expressive face , Tabu lookalike , and great dress
sense - anybody see her Zee Top Ten Eid special ?..
Mo
dance show by teens , because they are in tight torn jeans
-ugh! If Sardars can do Bhangra in traditional dress what is
stopping these teens in dressing up nicely.
The other is a children's quiz all in English with convent
schools . If the students are from non Hindi parts of India
it would be acceptable but from St Stephens in Delhi ! is
unacceptable . Let them get the students from Hindi medium
schools .
Some of the older T series CDs of Daag -dont have
Sukhvinder's excellent Lucky Kabootar which was added to the
movie later on . Beware..
Mo
In fact before the end of the year Zee is going to bring out
channels in Marathi , Gujarati and Punjabi ..
ltse...@aol.com (LTsering) wrote:
Mo, name your source!
Lisa
Mo
Mo
in US . Check with www.zeetelevision.com
or ring 1-800-333-3474
pagal...@aol.com (PaGaLDiL4u) wrote:
unfortunately we still don't have Zee TV in washington dc
Mo
MUMBAI: Music maestro Naushad Ali today lambasted film and
television mediums for inculcating pop culture in youth and
weaning them away from Hindustani classical tradition.
'Youth today do not know Rags Darbari and Bhopali and the
responsibility for this ignorance should be owned by film
and TV mediums', the 81-year-old musician told reporters at
the Press Club here. He said Maharashtra government was yet
to allot a plot of land to him for establishing the 'Naushad
Academy of Hindustani Sangeet' despite an assurance given
last year by state cultural affairs minister Pramod
Navalkar, reports PTI.
'However, I am not angry with the state government and feel
quite sure that the promise would be fulfilled', he said
adding 'though I was born in Lucknow, Maharashtra made me
Naushad and I am grateful to this state which has always
honoured musicians'. 'I hope to take the youth of
Maharashtra back to Hindustani classical tradition once the
academy is established', Naushad said. Change of chief
ministers in Maharashtra and his periodic illnesses had
delayed the project, he explained. He said the academy
floated in March 1998 by him has organised a classical vocal
recital by upcoming 33-year-old Calcutta artiste Ustad
Rashid Khan at the Nehru Centre Auditorium here on April
eight to partly raise funds for the academy building
estimated to cost Rs two crore.
Niraj Agarwalla
> It is not the fault of Indian movie industry that Indian youth
> is mesmerized by everything American.
> Hollywood has done its number of all youth all across
> the Globe. I remember German parents being pissed at
> the overpowering influence of US films back in late 50's over their
> old
> and rich culture, what prayer do you think we have of ever stopping
> the Hollywood juggernaut naught.
> Nusrat Rizvi
The only way to resolve this issue is to become lika a North Korea.
Don't let anyone out, don't let anyone in. Restrict access to radios,
television, and newspapers. And the Internet? Well, India will have
to do without. Then, maybe then, will India have a modicum of a chance
to change the tide.
--
Niraj Agarwalla -- ni...@shore.net -- http://www.shore.net/~niraj
GO RED SOX!!!!
Nusrat Rizvi
Kuntal M. Daftary
> MUMBAI: Music maestro Naushad Ali today lambasted film and
> television mediums for inculcating pop culture in youth and
> weaning them away from Hindustani classical tradition.
this is stupid. no one forces the youth to see the pop culture.
it is their choice. if anyone is to blame it is the youth themselves or
perhaps their parents who can make a difference in their children's
tastes but dont do so - and even then, why blame them too. why should
the youth take any interest in Hindustani Classical tradition if they
are not interested in it. just because "Music maestro Naushad Ali" says
so ?
even before cable TV or MTV culture became so prevelant in india, DD
used to (and perhaps does so even now) air these "<blah> kaa akhil
bhartiya karyakram" and even many other "indian tradition" programmes.
but they never evoked any interest in the general public. and the next
day MTV comes in and sweeps off the youth of a nation off its feet. so
it becomes the culprit ?! The television medium and the film business
are out to do business and not social service. and that i am sure is
not very different from the motive behind establishing "Naushad Academy
of Hindustani Sangeet".
What big awareness did he awake in the people of india when he was such
a prevelant figure in the film industry with regards to hindustani
classical music ?
in fact, if anyone is to blame for this "catastrophe" it is the
propenents of hindustani classical music themselves who were not able
to present this music to the indian populace in a manner which is
appealing and easy to embrace.
this is like vadilal saying that it is the fault of ice-cream shop
owners that everyone eats baskin-robbins now and no one buys vadilal -
less and less shop keepers are now opening vadilal shops or stocking
vadilal ice-cream.
> 'Youth today do not know Rags Darbari and Bhopali and the
> responsibility for this ignorance should be owned by film
> and TV mediums', the 81-year-old musician told reporters at
> the Press Club here. He said Maharashtra government was yet
> to allot a plot of land to him for establishing the 'Naushad
> Academy of Hindustani Sangeet' despite an assurance given
> last year by state cultural affairs minister Pramod
> Navalkar, reports PTI.
>
> 'However, I am not angry with the state government and feel
> quite sure that the promise would be fulfilled', he said
> adding 'though I was born in Lucknow, Maharashtra made me
> Naushad and I am grateful to this state which has always
> honoured musicians'. 'I hope to take the youth of
> Maharashtra back to Hindustani classical tradition once the
> academy is established', Naushad said. Change of chief
> ministers in Maharashtra and his periodic illnesses had
> delayed the project, he explained. He said the academy
> floated in March 1998 by him has organised a classical vocal
> recital by upcoming 33-year-old Calcutta artiste Ustad
> Rashid Khan at the Nehru Centre Auditorium here on April
> eight to partly raise funds for the academy building
> estimated to cost Rs two crore.
>
>
>
Kuntal Daftary
Mo
musical program. It is really quite enjoyable . If Bollywood
puts in one classical number -music or singing - I think
people would become used to it and appreciate them even
more . After all classical music is the basis of all South
Asian music..
Nusrat Rizvi
Dear Mo, Will you please tell me how does one go about getting
ZeeTV. I have both DIRECTTV a satalite network and
cable. Are these 2 services sufficient to get Zee TV with out extra
connection.
thanks
Nusrat Rizvi
Mo
By Our Correspondent
ISLAMABAD, April 1: Two eminent Pakistani Qawwals Mehr Ali
and Sher Ali will be visiting France on a week-long tour
from April 12 on the invitation of the House of World
Culture.
After the death of maestro Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, they are
considered the leading exponents of style immortalised by
him.
The two Qawwals are expected to give several performances in
Paris and other cities in France.
They made their first radio performance in 1970 from Multan.
In 1978, the two musicians made their television debut from
Lahore. Two years later, they achieved international
recognition with their successful tour of Middle East
followed by a visit to South Africa.
They have won coveted honours at international fora,
including the best group of Pakistan music village in
London.
The two Qawwals have also been selected by the World Music
Institute, New York, for their North American tour in
October this year.
Mo
is $199 and subscription $25 a month but its well worth it.
Check with www.zeetelevision.com a good site with latest
news from the subcontinent too or ring
1-800-333-3473
ZEE TV is available on Echostar DTH platform. Echostar has a
subscriber base of 1.4 million and is fast growing.
•Is also available through leading cable companies like the
international channel cable network.
Live cricket next week -India.Pakistan, England from Sharjah
Maybe others who have Zee already can add a comment . the
program details dont appear on that web site anymore..
Other info from that site
Zee TV in USA
Launched On July the 15th1998
US - Where the Potential Lies
•2.5 million strong community of Indians, Pakistanis,
Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans inhabit the country.
•This community mostly comprises well educated and high
income group individuals
•US is also the gateway to other potential markets of
Canada, The Caribbean and South America
Zee TV’s Reach
•Launched on 15th July’98 •ZEE reaches 30,000 households.
•Catching 1.5 Lakh focussed viewers •And is working towards
1,50,000 DTH connections in 3-5 yrs &
2,00,000 DTH connections in 5 Yrs .
Zee TV reaches 52 States in the US
Top Ten States Contribute 80% of the total number of
Subscribers
•Texas •California •Florida •NewYork •Illinois •Georgia •New
Jersey •NorthCarolina •Ohio •Virginia
The Launch Vehicles for ZEE TV in U.S.
•ZEE TV is available on Echostar DTH platform. Echostar has
a subscriber base of 1.4 million and is fast growing.
•Is also available through leading cable companies like the
international channel cable network.
Mo
http://www.zeetelevision.com/zee/newlook/fpcusa.htm
Alaap the classical music program is on Satrudays at 09.30
Eastern Time
Also excellent are Saregama and Jhat pat Khana ..
Manish Parikh
news:Pine.GSO.3.96.990401...@shell2.shore.net...
>
> The only way to resolve this issue is to become lika a North Korea.
> Don't let anyone out, don't let anyone in. Restrict access to radios,
> television, and newspapers. And the Internet? Well, India will have
> to do without. Then, maybe then, will India have a modicum of a chance
> to change the tide.
>
> --
> Niraj Agarwalla -- ni...@shore.net -- http://www.shore.net/~niraj
> GO RED SOX!!!!
>
India is a democracy and will always be a democracy . It's very easy for
people like you sitting in America to say that India should be closed
to the world . What's wrong with watching Hollywood movies .
Even bad Hollywood movies are rejected in India .
As for Naushad , he is speaking nonsense . For the last so many
years ,i am listening to him lambasting everyone .
He started first saying that the music directors were dishing out
crappy music . He himself could not come up with a
good score himself ( I am taling of the ninetees )
He failed miserably . So he should better shut up .
Pancham forever
Manish