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Surajit Bose
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This, from the ISB, is an interesting candidate for the series. It's
quite rare, but not unheard of, to have part of the sthaayi clipped on
EP recordings. One example is "chi.ngaarii koii bhaDake," in which the
second line of the song, "patajha.D jo baag ujaaDe" etc., is missing on
quite a few releases--the 45 RPM that I used to own, for instance.
Another is this early Roshan composition. There are other examples, but
none come to mind right now....
% ITRANS Song #1153
%
\startsong
\stitle{mai.n dil huu.N ik aramaan bharaa}%
\film{Anhoni}%
\starring{Sunil Dutt}%
and Nargis
\singer{Talat}%
\music{Roshan}%
\lyrics{Satyendra}%
Who's he?
%
% Contributor: ShashiKant Joshi (rava...@gold.tc.umn.edu)
% Transliterator: Ravi Kant Rai (rr...@plains.nodak.edu)
% Editor: Anurag Shankar (anu...@chandra.astro.indiana.edu)
% Comments: Pankha Road se Pintu Diwana [3]
% a gem and VERY handy if you are still in the wooing phase :)
%
\printtitle
#indian
%
mai.n dil huu.N ik aramaan bharaa
tuu aake mujhe pahachaan zaraa
mai.n dil huu.N ik aramaan bharaa
khud maine husn ke hAtho.n me.n,
shokhii kaa chhalakataa jaam diyaa
gaalo.n ko gulaabo.n kaa rutabaa,
kaliyo.n ko labo.n kaa naam diyaa, naam diyaa
aa.Nkho.n ko diyaa saagar gaharaa \- 2
tuu aake mujhe pahachaan zaraa
ye sach hai, terI mahafil me.n,
mere afasaane kuchh bhI nahii.n
par dil kii daulat ke aage
duniyaa ke khazaane kuchh bhI nahii.n
yuu.n mujhase nigAho.n ko nA churaa \- 2
tuu aake mujhe pahachaan zaraa
%
#endindian
\endsong
%
This happens to be one of my favorite Talat solos. I tried to get UVR to
sing it at the RMIMeet, but he refused. :-( Sob. (Whether that refers to
my tears or is just a description of UVR, I'll leave to your
imagination. :-)) Most available recordings of the song reproduce it as
given above. But the ANHONEE/BEWAFA CD, and I believe the movie as well,
has a longer version. The usual recordings just plunge into the first
stanza after "ik aramaan bharaa." On the CD, the sthaayi itself has an
additional line:
ik saagar huu.N Thaharaa Thaharaa \- 2
tuu aake mujhe pahachaan zaraa
The tune of this line is the same as that of the last line of each of
the two stanzas. Following this line, there's an elaborate interlude
(mainly piano) before the stanza begins with "Khud mai.nne hus_n ke
haatho.n me.n."
In addition, on the usual recordings there's no pause between "duniyaa
ke khazaane kuchh bhii nahii.n" and "yuu.N mujhase nigaaho.n ko na
churaa," but in the CD, a brief rill on the piano intervenes.
I'm told that in the movie, after completing this song, Sunil Dutt,
seated at the piano, moves directly into the following lines:
%
ye jhilmil karte hue diiye \- 2
aakhir ik din bujh jaae.nge
daulat ke nashe me.n Duube huye
ye raag ra.Ng miT jaae.nge
guu.Njegaa magar ye giit meraa \- 2
ye giit meraa
%
#endsong
The CD includes these lines on the same track, which is listed as "main
dil hoon ek arman bhara / ye jhilmil karte huye." The lines are set to a
tune very distinct from that of the overall song, so much so that in
terms of music alone, they could be considered a fragment of an entirely
different song. However, the lyrics clearly tie these lines to the
earlier two stanzas. The rhyme scheme and meter are the same: abxbc, the
"c" line rhyming with the sthaayi. And the semantics match. "daulat ke
nashe" takes up the bit about "duniyaa ke Khazaane kuchh bhii nahii.n."
The overall theme, that the listener should give up the material world
for the true riches of love, is the same. From this, one can conclude
that these lines are part of Satyendra's poem but, for whatever reason,
Roshan chose to set a different tune for them.
So much for this song. Now for some general ramblings: The rest of the
ANHONEE soundtrack is pleasant, and grows on the listener, but IMO only
one other song reaches the level of this one: a Rajkumari-Lata duet,
"zindagii badalii." This is actually two songs in one. Rajkumari,
singing for a courtesan (Nargis), gives the song its upbeat opening:
zindagii badalii,
muhabbat kaa mazaa aane lagaa
haai, zindagii badalii
and Lata, singing for the pure-as-driven-snow "hamshakal" (also played
by Nargis, naturally) chips in with a sorrowful
dil ke TukaDe ho gaye,
har saa.Ns taDapaane lagaa
haai, zindagii badalii
The song continues, each stanza divided between two singers and two
moods. Hansraj Behl splices two dissimilar songs together in a similar
way in SAAVAN, with "nain dvaar se mana me.n vo aake" divided between a
mournful Mukesh and a chirpy Lata. In both cases, the composers play off
mood against mood and singer against singer to marvellous effect.
ANHONEE has as many as five lyricists: Satyendra, Shailendra, Nakhshab,
Sardar Jafri, Santoshi. Is there any other movie that uses quite as
many? PAKEEZAH, which uses four--Kaifi Azmi, Kaif Bhopali, Kamal Amrohi,
Majrooh Sultanpuri?--comes close, but that's as near as I remember.
I am indebted to Malini and Balaji Kanth for two additional points about
the ANHONEE soundtrack. One, Rajkumari sings for the courtesan and Lata
for the Nargis consistently, except for one song: "kahaa hai unhone ye
raaz-e-muhabbat." Lata, singing for the courtesan here, modifies her
voice considerably, so that it sounds quite a bit like Rajkumari. (In
fact, if I hadn't read the CD inlay, I might have been puzzled as to the
singer's identity.)
Two, the sthaayi of Rajkumari's solo "shariifo.n kii mahafil me.n dil
gayaa chorii" recycles the interludes of Roshan's earlier "iichak
biichak churr" from BAAVRE NAIN.
-s
Ashok
In article <33E77C...@nd.edu>, bos...@nd.edu says...
>
Thanks, Surajit, for a very rich post. One correction.
>\stitle{mai.n dil huu.N ik aramaan bharaa}%
>\film{Anhoni}%
>\starring{Sunil Dutt}%
>
>and Nargis
The hero is Raj Kapoor. As far as I know, there is only
one film with both Nargis and Sunil Dutt in the cast.
'Anhoni' is a 1952 film.
>
>\singer{Talat}%
>\music{Roshan}%
>\lyrics{Satyendra}%
>
>Who's he?
Not clear what kind of answer is expected here! The
first song Satyendra Athaiya wrote for a Hindi film
was
jhilamil sitaaro.n ke tale aa, meraa daaman thaam le
a wonderful Lata solo from 'Naaz' (released in 1953),
composed by Anil Biswas. Incidentally, I believe this
was the first film to be shot abroad.
The most memorable song of Satyendra is the one from
'Naubahar,' anodther great doundtrack of Roshan,
where the poet dares to "extend" a Meera bhahan and
pulls it off:
na mai.n jaanu.N aarati bandan, na pooja ki reet
hai anjaani, daras deevaani, mere paagal preet
liye ri mai.n ne do naino.n ke deepak liye sanjoy (*?)
eri mai.n to prem deevaani mera darad na jaane koy
(* I am unsure of the whole line here.)
Ashok
>
>
>-s
Snehal B. Oza
>Fill In The Blanks [13]
>This, from the ISB, is an interesting candidate for the series. It's
>quite rare, but not unheard of, to have part of the sthaayi clipped on
>EP recordings. One example is "chi.ngaarii koii bhaDake," in which the
>second line of the song, "patajha.D jo baag ujaaDe" etc., is missing on
>quite a few releases--the 45 RPM that I used to own, for instance.
>Another is this early Roshan composition. There are other examples, but
I doubt this was ever released on EP. It must be on some 78 rpm and then on LP?
I am not sure.
>none come to mind right now....
>% ITRANS Song #1153
>%
>\startsong
>\stitle{mai.n dil huu.N ik aramaan bharaa}%
>\film{Anhoni}%
>\starring{Sunil Dutt}%
As Ashok says hero was Raj Kapoor. Sunil Dutt needs three more years before he
comes on screen as hero (with Hemantkumar's golden voice) in 1955 - Ek Hi Rasta
>This happens to be one of my favorite Talat solos. I tried to get UVR to
>sing it at the RMIMeet, but he refused. :-( Sob. (Whether that refers to
>my tears or is just a description of UVR, I'll leave to your
>imagination. :-)) Most available recordings of the song reproduce it as
>given above. But the ANHONEE/BEWAFA CD, and I believe the movie as well,
>has a longer version. The usual recordings just plunge into the first
This is another proof for my belief that al these new releases that HMV is
coming out with, have their source NOT original 78 rpm recordings but sound-
track. Of course there are exceptions like Talat Mehmood: Rare Melodies, which
come from 78 rpm.
>stanza after "ik aramaan bharaa." On the CD, the sthaayi itself has an
>additional line:
>ik saagar huu.N Thaharaa Thaharaa \- 2
>tuu aake mujhe pahachaan zaraa
>So much for this song. Now for some general ramblings: The rest of the
>ANHONEE soundtrack is pleasant, and grows on the listener, but IMO only
>one other song reaches the level of this one: a Rajkumari-Lata duet,
>"zindagii badalii." This is actually two songs in one. Rajkumari,
>singing for a courtesan (Nargis), gives the song its upbeat opening:
>zindagii badalii,
>muhabbat kaa mazaa aane lagaa
>haai, zindagii badalii
>and Lata, singing for the pure-as-driven-snow "hamshakal" (also played
>by Nargis, naturally) chips in with a sorrowful
>dil ke TukaDe ho gaye,
>har saa.Ns taDapaane lagaa
>haai, zindagii badalii
>The song continues, each stanza divided between two singers and two
>moods. Hansraj Behl splices two dissimilar songs together in a similar
>way in SAAVAN, with "nain dvaar se mana me.n vo aake" divided between a
>mournful Mukesh and a chirpy Lata. In both cases, the composers play off
>mood against mood and singer against singer to marvellous effect.
You can find one more of this genre in Daaman. Here Lata's co-singer is Asha.
Are there more ?
Thanks for this nice post
Snehal
>-s
kalyan
In article <33E77C...@nd.edu>, Surajit says...
>
>ANHONEE has as many as five lyricists: Satyendra, Shailendra, Nakhshab,
>Sardar Jafri, Santoshi. Is there any other movie that uses quite as
>many? PAKEEZAH, which uses four--Kaifi Azmi, Kaif Bhopali, Kamal Amrohi,
>Majrooh Sultanpuri?--comes close, but that's as near as I remember.
Actually I think this was a common thing in the Anhonee time period. I
took a cursory look at some of late 40's and early 50's soundtracks
that I have and here is what I came up with for some of those movies.
The numbers in parenthesis indicate the number of songs.
Jogan (1950 by Bulo. C. Rani) - Five lyricists - Himmat Roy (1), Pt Indra(4),
Buta Ram(1), Kidar Sharma(1) and Meera bai (6).
Nau Bahar (1952 by Roshan) - three lyricists, Shailendra, Satyendra and
Nakshab
Anokha Pyar (1948 by Anil Biswas) - 3 lyricists, Zia Sarhadi, Shums azimabadi,
Bezaad lucknawi
Saiyan (1951 by Sajjad) - 3 lyricists, Rajinder Krishan, D.N. Madhok and
Hasrat
Anarkali (1952(?) by CR) - at least 4 and all big-time lyricists. Hasrat,
Shailendra, Rajinder Krishan and Jan Nizzar Akhtar. JNA was the lyricist
for the lone Geeta song composed by Basant Prakash. CR went on to use
JNA for what he (and many others) considered his best soundtrack - Yasmeen.
There may be more than 4 lyricists as I don't have the CD.
Aankhen (1950(?) by MM) - At least 4 lyricists - don't remember the
names. There may be more as I have the cassette and not the CD.
And the film that takes the cake!!
Shisham (1952 by Roshan) - 6 lyricists - Indivar, Udhav Kumar, Zia Sarhadi,
Kaif Irfani, Madhu Raj and Nazim Panipati.
And so on. I notice that a large number of the movies in this period
(late 40's to early 50's) have at least three lyricists. This is clearly
not true of the later movies or of the movies in the early 40's (based
on the few soundtracks that I have and Surjit's "A year in films" series).
One explanation I have is that in this period Hindi film lyrics were
evolving and in a state of flux. By early 50's film lyrics had reached
a pretty high level. Opinions/comments welcome.
Another unrelated issue is that of more than one lyricist for a single
song. I am pretty sure I have seen quite a few such songs (easily in
double figures) but at the moment I can only recollect Talat's "Shaam-e-gham
ki qasam" from Khaiyyam's Footpath. It is attributed to Majrooj and Sardar
Jaffri. I remember Ashok mentioning that this generally happens when the
more famous poet writes the mukhda and cannot complete the antaras for
some reason and the second lyricist takes over. For more such songs I
have to look into my collection though I'm sure I've seen quite a few.
Regards,
Kalyan
Kalyan
In article <5scko9$l...@drn.zippo.com>, kalyan says...
Couple of corrections.
>
>Anokha Pyar (1948 by Anil Biswas) - 3 lyricists, Zia Sarhadi, Shums azimabadi,
>Bezaad lucknawi
Actually 4 lyricists. Also has G.S. Nepali.
>
>Aankhen (1950(?) by MM) - At least 4 lyricists - don't remember the
>names. There may be more as I have the cassette and not the CD.
MM's Ada also has four lyricists.
Regards,
Kalyan
Snehal B. Oza
In <5scko9$l...@drn.zippo.com> kalyan writes:
>Another unrelated issue is that of more than one lyricist for a single
>song. I am pretty sure I have seen quite a few such songs (easily in
>double figures) but at the moment I can only recollect Talat's "Shaam-e-gham
>ki qasam" from Khaiyyam's Footpath. It is attributed to Majrooj and Sardar
>Jaffri. I remember Ashok mentioning that this generally happens when the
>more famous poet writes the mukhda and cannot complete the antaras for
>some reason and the second lyricist takes over. For more such songs I
>have to look into my collection though I'm sure I've seen quite a few.
One other song having such a case is from Buzdil (1951): Zan Zan Zan Zan Paayal
Lyricists are Shailendra & Kaifi Azmi
Snehal
>Regards,
>Kalyan
Ashok
>Shailendra, Rajinder Krishan and Jan Nizzar Akhtar. JNA was the lyricist
>for the lone Geeta song composed by Basant Prakash. CR went on to use
>JNA for what he (and many others) considered his best soundtrack - Yasmeen.
>There may be more than 4 lyricists as I don't have the CD.
>
Interestingly, the titles in the film gives the following list for lyricists:
Rajinder Krishan
Shailendra
Hasrat Jaipuri
Sardar Jafri (!)
It doesn't credit Jan Nisar Akhtar or Basant Prakash, although their work
is used.
There is no known song written by Sardar Jafri for 'Anarkali.' I wonder if
some song was composed and then dropped.
A similar phenomenon happens for 'Sone Ki Chidiya'. The titles list as
lyricists:
Sahir
Majrooh
Kaifi Azmi (!)
Among the available songs, only one ("bekas ki tabaahi ke saamaan hazaaro.n hai.n" )
sung by Asha is written by Majrooh. All the others are by Sahir. And no known
song by Kaifi Azmi.
Ashok
Anil Ubale
(Ashok) wrote:
>
> As far as I know, there is only
> one film with both Nargis and Sunil Dutt in the cast.
> 'Anhoni' is a 1952 film.
>
I heard in Z Tv's Chalo Cinema - that Sunil Dutt's directorial
debut had Nargis in the last scene. Film is "Yaadein (1962)" -
irrelevant to RMIM (it is songless).
anil
Anil Hingorani
Also, 'rote rote guzar gayi' from Buzdil was written by Shailendra
and Kaifi A.
some others,
'jao sidharo he Radha ke shyam' from Arzoo - Majrooh/Jan Nisar A.
'pag ghungroo bandh' from Namak Halal - Prakash Mehra/Anjaan
'rasiya re man basiya re' from Pardesi - Prem Dhawan/Sardar Jafri
'shayad meri shaadi ka kahyal' from Souten - Sawan Kumar/P. Kaushik
all songs of Roshan's Hamlog are credited to Adil/Udhav
cheers,
Anil
Anil Ubale
Anil Ubale "lapete"d:
> I heard in Z Tv's Chalo Cinema - that Sunil Dutt's directorial
> debut had Nargis in the last scene. Film is "Yaadein (1962)" -
> irrelevant to RMIM (it is songless).
SORRY people - my bad!
Yaadein (1964) is not songless - it has two songs -
Music by Vasant Desai, Lyrics by Anand Bakshi.
Thanks very much to Vish Krishnan, and Preetham
Gopalaswamy for correcting me on this - in a very
gentlemanly way.
anil
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Chandrashekhar
>
> >The song continues, each stanza divided between two singers and two
> >moods. Hansraj Behl splices two dissimilar songs together in a similar
> >way in SAAVAN, with "nain dvaar se mana me.n vo aake" divided between a
> >mournful Mukesh and a chirpy Lata. In both cases, the composers play off
> >mood against mood and singer against singer to marvellous effect.
>
> Are there more ?
>
> Thanks for this nice post
> Snehal
>
> >-s
I'm new to this newsgroup. The degree of in-depth knowledge is fascinating! Re: the
genre mentioned - combining slow and fast - one of my favourites has been Salil's
"Poonam Ki Raat" tune, "Sapnon mein mere koi aaye jaaye", voiced by Mukesh, with Lata
and Usha Mangeshkar filling in with the racy line "dekho mera dil haaire hai".
I had the privilege of talking to this great composer in Bombay only months before his
demise, and brought up the subject of another instance where he had supposedly used the
voice of Usha Mangeshkar - the Kishore-Usha duet from "Naukri", "Chhota sa ghar hoga
baadalon ki chhaon mein", but Salilda was unable to recall Usha's involvement in the
song! Granted, it's only one line at the end. Then his wife Sabitha said it was not Usha
(as credited on the record), but an obscure singer called Shaila Belle from IPTA - HMV
decided to use Usha's name because it had more comemrcial value. Another example of this
'injustice' is in "Kahani Kismat Ki"'s "Rafta rafta dekho aankh meri ladi hai" - that's
not Rekha's voice saying, "Oho, maine aisa to nahin kaha tha!", but that of singer Usha
Timothy. Regards, Shekhar