Khayyam - Filmography
Gurcharan S Sandhu
today, his filmography runs as follows:
1947: Rustom Sohrab: He sang a duet with Zohrabai Ambalawali
'Donon jahaan teri mohabbat mein haar ke...'
He composed music under the name of 'Sharma ji' in his first four
films:
1948: Heer Ranjha ( in which he also sang 3 duets with Geeta Dutt)
1949: Pardaa
1950: Biwi
1951: Pyaar Ki Baatein
Then he started using his real name Khayyam, the full name being
Mohammed Zahoor Khayyam Hashmi.
1953: Footpath
Gul Sanibar
1954: Dhobi Doctor
Gulbahaar
1955: Taataar Kaa Chor
1958: Lala Rukh
Phir Subaah Hogi
1960: Barood
Bobmai Ki Billi
1961: Sholaa Aur Shabnam
1964: Shagoon
1965: Mohabbat Isko Kehte Hain
1966: Aakhri Khat
1967: Meraa Bhaai Meraa Dushman
1974: Pyaase Dil
Sankalp
1975: Mutthi Bhar Chaawal
Sandhyaa
1976: Kabhi Kabhie
1977: Shankar Hussain
1978: Trishool
1979: Chambal Ki Kassam
Khaandaan
Meena Kumari Ki Amar Kahaani
Noorie
1980: Thodi Si Bewafaayi
1981: Aahistaa Aahistaa
Dard
Dil-e-Naadaan
Naakhudaa
Umraao Jaan
1982: Baawri
Baazaar
Dil Aakhir Dil Hai
Sawaal
1983: Mehndi
Razia Sultaan
1984: Lorie
1985: Bepanaah
1986: Anjuman
Devar Bhaabhi
Tere Shaher Mein
1988: Ek Nayaa Rishtaa
Parbat Ke Uss Paar
1989: Jaan-e-Wafaa
1995: Mohabbaton Kaa Safar
It is reported that he is currently composing music for a new film.
The film 'Hum Hain Raahi Pyaar Ke' never got released but the songs
were released in 1960/61 period.
The composer is married to the wellknown playback singer Jagjit Kaur.
-Gurcharan Sandhu
Abhay Jain
"Gurcharan S Sandhu" <ggss...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> With best wishes to the music director Khayyam on his 79th birthday
> today, his filmography runs as follows:
>
> 1947: Rustom Sohrab: He sang a duet with Zohrabai Ambalawali
> 'Donon jahaan teri mohabbat mein haar ke...'
This song is from Romeo & Juliet (1947).
AJ
>
> -Gurcharan Sandhu
>
Gurcharan S Sandhu
This is the case where my mind was playing the tricks. It was meant
to be Romeo and Juliet (1947).
Also, Bobmai Ki Billi should read Bombai Ki Billi (1960).
-Gurcharan
urzun...@yahoo.com
And also..........................
I think the male singer in Heer Ranjha 1948 duets is G M Durrani.
urzung khan
Animesh Kumar
Hi Gurcharan:
Impressive compilation! Thanks for the same.
Is there some resource on his Ghair-filmi compilations? I have a
moderate size collection of his Ghair-filmi Urdu work.
He also claimed (in an interview with AVmax) that he has composed a lot
of bhajans -- more than others who claim a lot about it (He is not a
big-mouth talker, in my experience). It would be good if we can nail it
all down.
Best regards,
Animesh
Surjit Singh
Gurcharan S Sandhu wrote:
> With best wishes to the music director Khayyam on his 79th birthday
> today, his filmography runs as follows:
>
> 1947: Rustom Sohrab: He sang a duet with Zohrabai Ambalawali
> 'Donon jahaan teri mohabbat mein haar ke...'
>
> He composed music under the name of 'Sharma ji' in his first four
> films:
>
> 1948: Heer Ranjha ( in which he also sang 3 duets with Geeta Dutt)
Thank you, Gurcharan. Great to have some authentic raw list data on
which to base hypotheses on :)
Here is some interesting info about Heer Ranjha. This is from an
interview with Pakistani MD Rehman Verma as published in the book
Jahan-e-Fan by Zahur Chaudhary (Thanks UK for telling me about this book):
(My translation from Urdu)
Verma : ....
Those days, famous producer, writer, director Wali Sahib (with his wife
Mumtaz Shanti) came to Calcutta. He wanted to get Baba Chishti as MD for
his under-production film Heer Ranjha. This film was being shot in
Bombay and Aziz Khan (who was later famous as Aziz Hindi) was giving its
music. But he removed himself from the film because of some disagreement
with Wali sahib. So he was looking for another MD. By this time Baba
Chishti had returned to Lahore. Then Wali Sahib persuaded me and
Khaiyyam to come to Bombay and finish the rest of the work. So, in 1946,
both of us went to Bombay and completed the movie. Wali Sahib changed
both of our names, and made us, respectively, Vermaji, Sharmaji. I
remember that we had recorded a Panjabi song for this film, sung by
Geeta Roy, ud pud janiyan ghio khand khaniayan te chunni lai de lal rang
di. Also, we recorded kahe ko biyahi bades with Lata Mangeshkar.
Zahur Chaudhary:
Sorry for the interruption, but it is said that this song was created by
Aziz Hindi for Lata.
Verma:
No, Sir. This tune belongs to me and Khaiyyam. But possibly the
Gramophone Records say Aziz Hindi, although I am not sure. In any case,
at that time, I had told Wali Sahib to mention Aziz Hindi's name for all
the songs, because after all he is also an artist and artists have
strong feelings. In any case, our first song ud pud was written by Wali
Sahib's brother Nazim Panipati. By this time Pakistan was in existence.
Wali Sahib ordered us to go to Lahore so that the film can be released.
I remember that in those days Agha G. A. Gul was the distributor of this
film for the Lahore Circuit. The film was released and did OK business.
After this, Khaiyyam Sahib returned to Bombay.
--
Surjit Singh, a diehard movie fan(atic), period.
http://hindi-movies-songs.com/index.html
Gurcharan S Sandhu
information that is readily available in one place. There is so much
conflicting information that one does not know how much of it to be
correct.
For example, the imdb website displays the year of birth as
1929 (instead of 1927), the real name as Mohd. Zahoor Khayyam
(without mention of Hashmi) and also lists him as one of the music
composer along with Anand-Milind for the film Jawani Zindabad (1990).
On checking the audio cassette and also the opening credits of the
film I found no mention of Khayyam.
Again imdb is silent on all films linked with the name Sharma ji.
For the film Heer Ranjha (1948) Geeta Dutt did have one duet with
G. M. Durrani, 'Kafas ki qaid mein...' but the other three of her duets
were with Khayyam. This has also been confirmed with Har Mandir
ji, although the volume 2 is silent on this. May be someone with
direct access can verify this with Khayyam Saheb himself?
As far as the non-film contribution is concerned it is so many times
more difficult to collect the information. I am putting some efforts in
this direction as well to create some reference point. When I feel I
have collected enough information I will be pleased to share it out
openly.
Any opinions, whether positive or negative, will definitely be welcome
and important for debating out the issues.
-Gurcharan
=BCSP=
Khayyam may say so many things....I (he) did this & did that....since
he claims he composed music for a 1943 film with the blessings of his
guru Baba Chisti. ....arrey baba,which one TELL THE NAME. Alas. he
hasn't and if he tells....he will be dealt with red-handed....with
documentary evidence. He knows that majority of his well wishers have
no excess to a term called 'probe'.
Secondly. Aziz Khan (or HINDI) or Aziz Mohd ...all are one and the same
person/MD and younger brother of Hafeez Khan 'Mastana'. Both of them
were excellent sitar players belonging to the Agra gharana. Aziz Hindi
went mad and died as told to me by G.M.Durrani in the 80s.
In the ROMEO JULIET ('47) duet with Zohra under the baton of MD: H-B;
Khayyam begins the song with 'just one brief line' ( thats all
!)....further its entirely Zohra. BCSP has this record in its library
=BCSP=
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Gurcharan S Sandhu
singerwise list of Khayyam's non-film compositions. Please ignore the
spelling discrepancies as it is not standardised. This is the list I
set out
to compile and is still incomplete.
Kyaa jaane kiski pyaas Alka Yagnik
Shaguftagi kaa lataafat kaa Alka Yagnik
Woh bhi saraahne lagey Alka Yagnik
Apni mohabbat ke afsaane Amjad Parvez
Chhup jaati hain aainaa dikhaa ke teri Amjad Parvez
Dard kaa zaaikaa aaj achhaa lagaa Amjad Parvez
Din dhal chukaa thaa Amjad Parvez
Jo utar ke zeenaa-e-shaam se Amjad Parvez
Raat ki aankhen neend se bojhal Amjad Parvez
Teri ummeed teraa intezaar jab se hai Amjad Parvez
Tujhe kho kar bhi tujhe paaun Amjad Parvez
Aanchal mein phool chaand Asha Bhonsle
Chaahaa thaa ik shaks ko Asha Bhonsle
Dil kaa lagaanaa khel na jaano Asha Bhonsle
Jaane kyaa haal ho Asha Bhonsle
Log mujhe paagal kehte hain Asha Bhonsle
Meri nigaah chhalaktaa huaa Asha Bhonsle
Muddatein beet gayi Asha Bhonsle
Zamaane bhar mein jo Asha Bhonsle
Ibn-e-Mariam huaa kare koi Begum Akhtar
Ishq mein gairat-e-jazbaat Begum Akhtar
Khush hoon ki meraa husn-e-talab Begum Akhtar
Khushi ne mujhko thukraayaa hai Begum Akhtar
Lai hayat aaye qazaa Begum Akhtar
Lailaa Majnu ke misaalon pe hansi aati hai Begum Akhtar
Mere humnafas mere humnawaa Begum Akhtar
Sab kahaan kutchh laalaa-o-gul Begum Akhtar
Sun to sahi jahaan mein hai teraa fasaanaa Begum Akhtar
Ulti ho gayin hain sab tadbeerein Begum Akhtar
Uzr aane mein bhi hai Begum Akhtar
Woh jo hum mein tum mein qaraar thaa Begum Akhtar
Yeh na thi hamaari qismat Begum Akhtar
Karoge yaad to har baat yaad aayegi Bhupinder
Baansuriyaa kaahe bhaaye saanwariyaa C. H. Atma
Kahoon jo haal-e-dil C. H. Atma
Saadgi par uski mar jaane ki hasrat C. H. Atma
Ibn-e-mariyam huaa kare koi Jagjit Kaur
Do nigaahon kaa achaanak Kavita Krishnamurthy
Tum mohabbat ko chhupaati kyoon ho Kavita Krishnamurthy
Dayaam padaa huaa Mahendra Kapoor
Hairaan hoon dil ko roun Mahendra Kapoor
Har qadam doori-e-manzil hai Mahendra Kapoor
Kahoon jo haal to Mahendra Kapoor
Main hoon Mushtaq-e-jafaa Mahendra Kapoor
Naqsh fariyaadi hai Mahendra Kapoor
Aawaaz do, aawaaz do hum ek hain Mohd. Rafi
Ay Sall-e-Allah, dil ki duniyaa kutchh aur hi Mohd. Rafi
Ay taazaa waaridaan-e-visaat-e-hawaa-e-dil Mohd. Rafi
Baazeech-e-atfaalai duniyaa mere aagey Mohd. Rafi
Bas ki dushwaar hai har kaam kaa aasaan Mohd. Rafi
Bekas ke ghamkhwaar Mohd. Rafi
Dard-e-minnat kash-e-dawaa na huaa Mohd. Rafi
Ghazab kiyaa tere waade pe aitbaar kiyaa Mohd. Rafi
Hum apne watan mein laayenge ik dauryaa Mohd. Rafi
Hum EK Hain Mohd. Rafi
Hum tarakki ke raaste par Mohd. Rafi
Islam aur jamhuriyat Mohd. Rafi
Kab se pukaare ay Kamli waale Mohd. Rafi
Kad o geisu mein qais-o-kohkan ki aazmaa Mohd. Rafi
Kaun se mazhab kaa khudaa Mohd. Rafi
Krishna Sudama kathaa Mohd. Rafi
Main gwaalon rakhwaalon maiyaa maakhan Mohd. Rafi
Maut hi na aa jaaye kaash ayese jeene se Mohd. Rafi
Mere geeton kaa singaar ho tum, jeewan Mohd. Rafi
Meri mohabbat qubool kar lo Mohd. Rafi
Morey Shyam--2, pal-pal morey mukh se Mohd. Rafi
Muddat hui hai yaar ko mehmaan kiye Mohd. Rafi
Nuqtaachi hai gham-e-dil, usko sunaaye Mohd. Rafi
Paaon padoon torey Shyam, Brij mein laut Mohd. Rafi
Pooch na mujhse dil ke fasaane, ishq ki Mohd. Rafi
Shauq har rang raqib-e-sarosaamaan Mohd. Rafi
Shravan Kumar ki kahaani Mohd. Rafi
Shyam se nehaa lagaaye, Radhe nee Mohd. Rafi
Subah-e-aashuraa... Parts 1 & 2 Mohd. Rafi
Suniyo araj hamaari, Prabhu ji suniyo araj Mohd. Rafi
Tere bharose hey Nandlala, koi ro ro baat Mohd. Rafi
Tum aao rum-jhum, rum-jhum Mohd. Rafi
Watan ki aabroo khatre mein hai Mohd. Rafi
Yeh na thi hamaari qismat ke visaal-e-yaar Mohd. Rafi
Zikra uss parvarish kaa aur phir bayaan Mohd. Rafi
Ash-aar mere yoon to zamaane ke liye Mukesh
Har ek husn teraa aainaa lagey hai mujhe Mukesh
Hum rashq ko apne bhi gawaaraa nahin Mukesh
Hum se bhaagaa na karo gizaalon ki tarah Mukesh
Na huyi gar mere marne se tasalli na sahi Mukesh
Rahi hain daad talab unki shokhiyaan Mukesh
Thartharaa uthati hai khaamosh fizaa raat Mukesh
Zaraa si baat pe har rasm tod aayaa thaa Mukesh
Kahin se laut ke hum Roop Kumar Rathod
Yeh daur jo ke sazaa bhi nahin Roop Kumar Rathod
Hey Govind Murari Sulakshna Pandit
Prabhu tum antaryaami Sulakshna Pandit
Aa gayin phir se bahaarein aa gayin Talat Mahmood
Aankh padti hai kahin, paon kahin padtaa Talat Mahmood
Aankhon aankhon mein har ek raat guzar Talat Mahmood
Bibi Zehra ke laalon pe laakhon salaam Talat Mahmood
Chupke se kabhi jab yaad meri sapnon se Talat Mahmood
Dar se Hussain samjhe jo dushman Talat Mahmood
Deen-e-Khudaa ke paasbaan, aal-e-Nabi Talat Mahmood
Dono aalam kaa imaan mohabbat teri Talat Mahmood
Farishton ne naghme masarrat ke gaa Talat Mahmood
Jeewan mein tujhe khoyaa, sapnon mein Talat Mahmood
Kaun kehtaa hai tujhe maine bhulaa Talat Mahmood
Koi din gar zindagaani aur hai Talat Mahmood
Kyaa itnaa bhi adhikaar nahin Talat Mahmood
Laaj bhari akhiyan mein apni ek nayaa Talat Mahmood
Maine tumse pyaar kiyaa--2, tumne kyon Talat Mahmood
Marhabaa Noor-e-Khudaa sall-e-Allah Talat Mahmood
Naqsh fariyaadi hai kiski shokhi-e-tehreer Talat Mahmood
Ro ro beetaa jeewan saaraa Talat Mahmood
Saajan aanaa, naa bisraanaa, saajan aana Talat Mahmood
Tujh mein jo baat hai gulshan ke nazaaron Talat Mahmood
Unke jalwe samet laayi hai Talat Mahmood
Uss bazm mein mujhe nahin banti hayaa Talat Mahmood
Hum Bhagat Singh ke saathi hain Udit Narayan
The formatting is also playing up. Correcting it as per preview
misalligns the outcome.
Comments welcome.
-Gurcharan
Vibhendu
His work for TV includes two serials on Urdu poets -Sunahre Warq and
Guftagu in the 80's. The two serials would have at least a dozen
ghazals between them. He also composed the title songs for Neena
Gupta's Dard and Lekh Tandon's Farmaan- both sung by Bhupinder. The
Dard title-song also had a Jagjit Kaur version.
He has composed one song for Gautam Ghosh's Yatra- a ghazal in Talat
Aziz's voice.His songs for Muzaffar ali's Zoonie were recorded but were
never released.
IIRC, he was also involved with Parvati Khan's debut ghazal album. She
later sang for him in 'Parbat Ke Us Paar'.
Regards,
Vibhendu
Vinaya...@gmail.com
shared with me during RMIM Suffolk meet of 2005 (BBC vaalii). He told
me that Jaidev was summoned by Muzzaffar Ali to compose music for Umrav
Jan. But after composing a few songs Jaidev quit due to differences
with the producer. I asked Robin whether the Jaidev's songs were
retained in the film and he replied affirmatively. As has frequently
happened with Jaidev, he was not paid for the songs he composed.
What I find most surprising that forthright man like Khayyam did not
insist that Jaidev should get his due credit.
Vinayak
Vibhendu
birahini ke man agani lagaa ke haare' Suman Kalyanpur
I guess, Suman would have some more non-film songs with Khaiyyam.
Ketan
Sandhu says...
Thanks for the list.
>1967: Meraa Bhaai Meraa Dushman
Anyone know the reason for this huge gap of 7 years? Did he not get any movies
or was he doing something else? Most other MD's including the ones who were
commercially failing like Jaidev, Naushad etc, did have atleast a few movies in
these 7 years, despite the S-J, L-P, RD and KA onslaught. Why not Khayyam?
>1974: Pyaase Dil
> Sankalp
>1975: Mutthi Bhar Chaawal
> Sandhyaa
>1976: Kabhi Kabhie
From a Yash Chopra interview we learn that it was Sahir who decided the MD, who
in this case was Khayyam? If so, why not recommend Khayyam during his 7 year
gap? If Khayyam was written off by the industry, this might be the best comeback
ever for ANY MD. I can't think of any similar case in HFM.
Ketan
UVR
Did Mr. Varma say which compositions of Umrao Jaan are the one
Jaidev composed and Khayyaam retained?
-UVR.
Vinaya...@gmail.com
and forgot.
Vinayak
Animesh Kumar
> In article <1140284978....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Gurcharan S
> Sandhu says...
>
> Thanks for the list.
>
>
>>1967: Meraa Bhaai Meraa Dushman
>
>
> Anyone know the reason for this huge gap of 7 years? Did he not get any movies
> or was he doing something else? Most other MD's including the ones who were
> commercially failing like Jaidev, Naushad etc, did have atleast a few movies in
> these 7 years, despite the S-J, L-P, RD and KA onslaught. Why not Khayyam?
>
He took a sabbatical owing to the deteriorating music practices. He
returned back on Sahir's and Yash Chopra's requests. Different people
behave differently -- He composed a good amount of non-filmi stuff
around that time.
>
>
>>1974: Pyaase Dil
>> Sankalp
>>1975: Mutthi Bhar Chaawal
>> Sandhyaa
>>1976: Kabhi Kabhie
>
>
> From a Yash Chopra interview we learn that it was Sahir who decided the MD, who
> in this case was Khayyam? If so, why not recommend Khayyam during his 7 year
> gap? If Khayyam was written off by the industry, this might be the best comeback
> ever for ANY MD. I can't think of any similar case in HFM.
IIRC, Rawat pointed this comeback being a record for any MD in one of
his posts.
Best,
A
>
>
> Ketan
>
Animesh Kumar
Should we (I) complete this table in iTrans or UTF? or Excel? Feedback
welcome.
Abhay Jain
"UVR" <u...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140457306....@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I specifically asked Robin this question
and he did not know which ones.
AJ
Abhay Jain
"Ketan" <Ketan_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:dtctq...@drn.newsguy.com...
>
> From a Yash Chopra interview we learn that it was Sahir who decided the
> MD, who
> in this case was Khayyam? If so, why not recommend Khayyam during his 7
> year
> gap? If Khayyam was written off by the industry, this might be the best
> comeback
> ever for ANY MD. I can't think of any similar case in HFM.
>
>
> Ketan
>
As per Mr. Rao (also mentioned on "Hamesha Jawan"),
initially a famous MD pair was selected but Sahir
objected because he felt they could not do
justice to his poetry and Khaiyyam was suggested.
AJ
Surjit Singh
I suggest iTrans.
Animesh Kumar
So it wasn't Kaifi Azmi alone who thought this. When Shabana asked him
for the music-composer for Shaguftagi, he ruled everyone out except
Khaiyyam.
Best,
A
Animesh Kumar
iTrans with excel? iTrans with latex-pdf? (one is portable and free;
other is editable but expensive).
Surjit Singh
Animesh Kumar wrote:
latex is preferable.
Ketan
>
>Ketan wrote:
>>Anyone know the reason for this huge gap of 7 years? Did he not get any movies
>> or was he doing something else? Most other MD's including the ones who were
>>commercially failing like Jaidev, Naushad etc, did have atleast a few movies in
>> these 7 years, despite the S-J, L-P, RD and KA onslaught. Why not Khayyam?
>>
>
>He took a sabbatical owing to the deteriorating music practices. He
What music practices were deteriorating? Has Khayyam ever explicitly stated what
he found objectionable, or is this a cover-up for not getting any movies during
that period? I ask because his comeback movies has atleast 3 songs that fit
right in with the 70s kind of music and he seems to be quite ok composing them.
And even after Kabhi-Kabhi, his music sounds contemporary to the 70s-80s era.
Ketan
Gurcharan S Sandhu
>
> Should we (I) complete this table in iTrans or UTF? or Excel? Feedback
> welcome.
Well Animesh, I have already got it on Excel Spreadsheet in Roman
English and since I posted the list on rmim, I have updated my own
spreadsheet by adding about forty non-film songs.
Other information that I could gather was that Khayyam had
initially learnt under the guidance of the brothers Pt. Amarnath,
Husnlal and Bhagatram. Then he got associated with GA Chishti
who did not pay him salary and was after a while forced to leave.
He then briefly joined the army but the attraction of cinema drew
him back to Chishti.
Khayyam also acted in a film 'YEH HAI ZINDAGI' in 1947.
-Gurcharan
Pavan Jha
Its true that Khayyam saab was out of the work during mid 60s (could
be due to stubborn and non compromising attitude, as I heard).. and
this was the time when Khayyam saab produced some wonderful non film
gems (ghazals, nazms, bhajans)..
It was Madan Mohan ji who asked the producer to give a film (offered
to MM) to Khayyam saab, as Khayyam saab was not having any assignments
at that time....
The film was 'Akhiri Khat'.
Pavan
Ketan
says...
Thanks Pavan,
That explains why I always find 'Akhri Khat' paired with 'Haqeeqat' on
tapes/CD's. :) Pretty big-hearted gesture on MM's part.
Interesting though to note that Khayyam was out of work, but came back with a
bang and built upon that initial breakthrough in the mid-70's to extend his
career for another 10 years or so, whereas Jaidev who had work consistently
throughout that period, was unable to capitalize on his chances. Musically the
two of them are IMO, equally capable. So one possibility for Jaidev's failure to
rise higher could be the lack of a big banner/producer/director to back him.
Ketan
>Pavan
>
Animesh Kumar
Well some of the practices he mentioned were:
* Copy this tune from certain english or western tune.
* First give the music and then we will fit lyrics on to it.
* The movie having no story.
He insists to get the script of the movie and the lyrics first so that
he can compose according to the *emotions* set within the script.
Certainly there are some exceptions -- most notably with some Yash
Chopra movies (I was taken aback by [bad] quality of music in one of
them; it could be some contract issue).
And since Rishi Kapoor was shown as a young brat-singer, all the Rishi K
songs are very peppy in Kabhi Kabhi (it fits well with the script,
though I don't like any of them -- for me the Mukesh numbers are better).
There is one more trivia I recalled about Umrao Jaan: When Muzaffar Ali
asked Khayyam to compose the music -- He read the novel Umrao Jaan and
studied the instrumentation of UP area in last century to make sure he
does justice to the story as per the historical facts. That said, I am
curious if, if at all, Jaidev's tunes were used.
Also, in the folk-tune and distance that you were considering -- Khayyam
has used Turkish and Persian music style to compose music for Razia
Sultan. And Vasant Desai composed Chinese folk-style music for Dr Kotnis
ki Amar Kahani.
Best regards,
Animesh
Gurcharan S Sandhu
Vibhendu:
Your input has been especially helpful for me here since
you had reminded me of certain albums which I had but
had been erased from my memory as they had been stored
away since so many years. I dug them out and have added to
my spreadsheet.
These were Meena Kumari's poetry and Sunehre Warq which
has common songs with Guldasta-e-Ghazal( 2 Vol set).
The Suman song was in Varsha Geet. I am not aware of any other
Suman non-film songs composed by Khayyam
Nor do I have any information about Guftugu, Dard and Farmaan
numbers which you mention.
Parvati Kahn too jogged my memory and dug out her ghazal album
'Missing You' but it has music by herself or Chandan. Her first
film hit 'Jimmy Jimmy aajaa...' was from the film Disco Dancer.
Lastly, I do recall the film 'Zooni' which I believe was being
shot in Kashmir and Dimple Kapadia starred in it. I don't have
any concrete details.
If anyone came up with any details they might have, however
insignicant they might sem to them, will be greatly appreciated.
With great expectations and regards and thanks to all who have
contributed,
-Gurcharan
UVR
Then I dismiss the accusation of plagiarism as unprovable gosssip.
-UVR.
=BCSP=
music .
=Jay=
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Anant Rege
Fair but curious. If Robin had mentioned some songs, would you have accepted
it as a fact then?
Anant
> -UVR.
>
Ketan
>Well some of the practices he mentioned were:
>
>* Copy this tune from certain english or western tune.
Hmmm, but he was ok with copying a non-western tune as he did in Shagoon?
>* First give the music and then we will fit lyrics on to it.
But didn't Sahir or Kaifi want the music first and then wrote lyrics? How did he
work with them?
>* The movie having no story.
C'mon, that's a cop out. There are tons of movies in every decade that could be
accused of that. So is he talking of movies in general or just the ones he was
offered? If the latter, all I can say is that he really wasn't in the
league(commercially) to be choosy about his film-makers and banners. There are
many instances of a good story having bad music but there are also instances of
good music lifting what is otherwise a crappy story/movie. 'Razia Sultan's
saving grace is it's music after all.
>He insists to get the script of the movie and the lyrics first so that
>he can compose according to the *emotions* set within the script.
That's a fair demand, IMO.
>Certainly there are some exceptions -- most notably with some Yash
>Chopra movies (I was taken aback by [bad] quality of music in one of
>them; it could be some contract issue).
Which movie? What contract issue?
>Also, in the folk-tune and distance that you were considering -- Khayyam
>has used Turkish and Persian music style to compose music for Razia
>Sultan.
And Lala Rukh too I think.
Thanks for the info.
Ketan
UVR
No, of course not. But it would have provided some data that
could be used for further research into the veracity of Robin's
claim. Such research can, of course, be done even now, as
well, but it would be better if that research could be focussed
on tunes that were identified as being originally Jaidev's.
Instead of trying every tune, that is (oh, btw, there's one song
in Umrao Jaan that most certainly has Khayyaam's own tune).
Please note that I'm not saying that Robin is lying about Jaidev
composing tunes for Umrao Jaan. I'm just saying that the
allegation of plagiarism seems to be without credibility.
-UVR.
Animesh Kumar
> In article <dtfrmt$l2c$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>, Animesh Kumar says...
>
>
>>Well some of the practices he mentioned were:
>>
>>* Copy this tune from certain english or western tune.
>
>
> Hmmm, but he was ok with copying a non-western tune as he did in Shagoon?
>
Which one? If you have a folk song in mind, he said that if situation or
director demands a folk-song, the tune *will have to be borrowed*. If he
makes his own tune, it cannot be called folk and vice-versa.
>
>>* First give the music and then we will fit lyrics on to it.
>
>
> But didn't Sahir or Kaifi want the music first and then wrote lyrics? How did he
> work with them?
Ravi also claims (claimed) that he wanted lyrics from Sahir first before
composing. I wonder what is the basis for your above statement. And I am
just summarizing what Khayyam said.
>
>
>>* The movie having no story.
>
>
> C'mon, that's a cop out. There are tons of movies in every decade that could be
> accused of that. So is he talking of movies in general or just the ones he was
> offered? If the latter, all I can say is that he really wasn't in the
> league(commercially) to be choosy about his film-makers and banners. There are
> many instances of a good story having bad music but there are also instances of
> good music lifting what is otherwise a crappy story/movie. 'Razia Sultan's
> saving grace is it's music after all.
But still, it has the story of Razia. And anyway, I was just quoting his
reasons. If you got differences, you can call and discuss with him. I
don't have his phone number, however.
>
>
>>He insists to get the script of the movie and the lyrics first so that
>>he can compose according to the *emotions* set within the script.
>
>
> That's a fair demand, IMO.
>
>
>>Certainly there are some exceptions -- most notably with some Yash
>>Chopra movies (I was taken aback by [bad] quality of music in one of
>>them; it could be some contract issue).
>
>
> Which movie? What contract issue?
Am sorry I don't remember the name, but I think it is Sawaal (am not
sure). It was a multi-starrer by Yash Chopra in 1980. Lyrics by Majrooh.
Yash Chopra had Khayyaam as music director for his films after Kabhi
Kabhi. Before Silsila they ran into some differences. Khayyaam was
unhappy with some extra-marital story (or so I heard). Like I said, it
*could* (am stressing, it *could*) be a contract issue between Khayyaam
and Yash Chopra that he had to finish that movie. The movie's story was
utterly distasteful. Majrooh's words were out of mind as well. I just
could not believe that the same pair made gems like "hamase hotii
mohabbat jo tumako". Perhaps the movie was completed just for the heck
of it.
>
>>Also, in the folk-tune and distance that you were considering -- Khayyam
>>has used Turkish and Persian music style to compose music for Razia
>>Sultan.
>
>
> And Lala Rukh too I think.
Lalarookh -- pyaas kuchh aur bhii bha.Dakaa dii (oh what a lovely song!)
is not filled with Arabian instruments. The rafi solo is, however.
You are most welcome,
Animesh